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Brother beating Australia in Australia two consecutive times is not a joke. Lets be realistic.
The win is Perth was a miracle.
I feel India lack a ball blunter like Pujara in this Tour.
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The win is Perth was a miracle.
I feel India lack a ball blunter like Pujara in this Tour.
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It will be tough not to play Ashwin when he is in squad
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2 debutants that too against Australia in Australia??? Not sure about this.
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@Ab Fan I find it hilarious how most Indian posters don't want to play ashwin for BGT. I thought he was one of the greatest spinners of this generation?
A goat spinner who no one wants to play in aus? Very nice
A goat spinner who no one wants to play in aus? Very nice
Ok bro. I don't rate lOI performances. It doesn't make you a legend. To be a great cricketer you need to be amongst the best test players.Okay bro. Whatever
I dont like chokers
And I absolutely hate stat padders.
KL SHOULD NEVER EVER PLAY FOR INDIA EVER AGAIN.
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It's about team combo rt.If all the batsmen are in form,India can have their best spinner .As of of no one looks good in form wise.So its better to load the batting with washi and he controls the runs.
No option as Rohit will not available for 1st test ( likely)
But TM can play KL as an opener if they want.
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It's not about winning bro.its about the preparation for the battle.if some one isn't even willing to prepare for the game ,it shows utter lack of respect for fans and viewers. Pujara is the last specimen of old style as even root changed his gears.
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No kl pls.that guy is a harm for any batting position. He was a opener later wk cum mo then mo.Failed in all positions for the longest period and let's hope he will be gone forever after the tour
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That's your opinion. It doesn't make it correct.
Test, Odi and t20 are different formats and you can be good in one and be considered great in it but be bad in another.
However to be an atg you have to be good in all formats or at the very least in test and odi both as t20 is a format where inconsistency occurs the most so it isn't a proper metric.
For example YK is an avg odi batter. He's played gun odi innings but in odi he clearly underachieved. But in test he's very very good especially in spin friendly conditons, the same spin friendly conditons that aus and Eng suffered immensely in.
Similarly Kohli is clearly a better odi batter then he is a test one.
And Warner is clearly a superior Whiteball batter then a test one
Bro my issue with Indian fans is that they get aggressive first and then when I get more aggressive with them, they start whining and complaining. I'm also at fault since I obsessively overdo it, but they genuinely start it first.
Indian fans don't like hearing any negativity about their players, even though it's impossible? Their isnt a single player in history besides Bradman who doesn't have certain stain marks on their career, But not only are said stain marks not considered, their overglorified with narratives.
I can't have a meaningful discussion qith you, because you're not willing to listen to my viewpoint? My viewpoint is that odi, test and t20 are different formats.
You're not an atg unless you're good in both formats yes but you can't just say no this player is rubbish cause odi bad and I hate odi.
It's the same reason I don't glorify kohli. He had his golden period but he didn't maintain longetivity, His test and t20 career went down the drain. Due to his golden period he will remain an atg, but he clearly does not belong in the class of Lara, Pointing and viv. But Indian fans just don't wanna hear it.
And you don't wish to hear anything about odi cricket? Pointing is a rubbish captain and a rubbish player in your eyes, so their isnt any point discussing with you, unless you want another aggressive 5 year old drama start which I'm an expert in
.You already know of my opinion. Pointing is a terrific odi and test player but that test avg and performance in India is a massive stain, however that one stain shouldn't be used by fraud Indians who wish to dismantle the guy into next week cause he's aussie and not Indian.
The other stain on his career is that just like kohli, Post 2007 he became rubbish and it coincidentally tined qith aussie team mellowing down as a whole and unfortunately a narrative has been invented that he's medicore because he became medicore when the entire team became medicore.
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That’s because we have another great all rounder in the team in form of Jadeja. I think Ashwin should play in Australia because we don’t have the quality in fast bowling aside of Bumrah.
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Kallis is a better test player than Ponting.That's your opinion. It doesn't make it correct.
Test, Odi and t20 are different formats and you can be good in one and be considered great in it but be bad in another.
However to be an atg you have to be good in all formats or at the very least in test and odi both as t20 is a format where inconsistency occurs the most so it isn't a proper metric.
For example YK is an avg odi batter. He's played gun odi innings but in odi he clearly underachieved. But in test he's very very good especially in spin friendly conditons, the same spin friendly conditons that aus and Eng suffered immensely in.
Similarly Kohli is clearly a better odi batter then he is a test one.
And Warner is clearly a superior Whiteball batter then a test one
Bro my issue with Indian fans is that they get aggressive first and then when I get more aggressive with them, they start whining and complaining. I'm also at fault since I obsessively overdo it, but they genuinely start it first.
Indian fans don't like hearing any negativity about their players, even though it's impossible? Their isnt a single player in history besides Bradman who doesn't have certain stain marks on their career, But not only are said stain marks not considered, their overglorified with narratives.
I can't have a meaningful discussion qith you, because you're not willing to listen to my viewpoint? My viewpoint is that odi, test and t20 are different formats.
You're not an atg unless you're good in both formats yes but you can't just say no this player is rubbish cause odi bad and I hate odi.
It's the same reason I don't glorify kohli. He had his golden period but he didn't maintain longetivity, His test and t20 career went down the drain. Due to his golden period he will remain an atg, but he clearly does not belong in the class of Lara, Pointing and viv. But Indian fans just don't wanna hear it.
And you don't wish to hear anything about odi cricket? Pointing is a rubbish captain and a rubbish player in your eyes, so their isnt any point discussing with you, unless you want another aggressive 5 year old drama start which I'm an expert in
You already know of my opinion. Pointing is a terrific odi and test player but that test avg and performance in India is a massive stain, however that one stain shouldn't be used by fraud Indians who wish to dismantle the guy into next week cause he's aussie and not Indian.
The other stain on his career is that just like kohli, Post 2007 he became rubbish and it coincidentally tined qith aussie team mellowing down as a whole and unfortunately a narrative has been invented that he's medicore because he became medicore when the entire team became medicore.
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So a goat spinner and one of the greatest of this era is in contention of not being taken or not being played?
That has never happened. If you're one of the greatest then you play, it doesn't matter if you don't fit the team combination either. The best do not need excuses.
Just acknowledge ashwin is rubbish in SENA. Their is virtually no narrative bowling wise that you can make. You'll probs find one or 2 good spells to justify a narrative but it's as meaningless as Yasir Shah managing to score a century in Australia lol.
Ironically PP is the first place I've seen Indians calling Ashwin a goat. Has never happened in any other platform.
Most view him and Kumble as an indian Spin home track bully lol?
So either Mamoon's post got to people's head, in which case I'd advise that you guys be more thick skinned, or you guys are hypocrites for bashing root and pointing in certain countries but holding different metrics for Ashwin
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This I agree with. No questions about it.
Jo sach hai wo sach hai.
I don't make false narratives on anyone.
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I think you have probably built a narrative based on 1-2 post where people basically tried to respond Mamoon who was trying to hype Root as GOAT and best since Bradman. Additionally, I never claimed that Ashwin is GOaT or even ATG.
I rate Ponting higher than Ashwin in Test cricket itself. My argument against Ponting was when he was compared with Tendulkar or S Smith. In a same way, Root is also better than Ashwin although not by much.
In case of Ashwin, due to his poor performance in SEN, he is perhaps more borderline ATG but he also adds a lot with his batting. In Australia, most spinners average extremely poor. Ashwin actually was significant in winning those two series with his all round performance in Australia. No Indian bowler did better than him in that 2020 series and he also contributed with a vital knock in Sydney, he was India’s best performer alongwith Pant in that series win.
Ashwin has been poor in SEN and that’s why I won’t have him as a true ATG but that does not stop him to be rated as a top bowler of this generation. There are simply none in last 20 years except Steyn and Bumrah who have done commendable away from home and Bumrah’s sample is low. Rabada averaged 29 sway from home vs non minnows. So, Ashwin is a top bowler of this generation as I claimed earlier but is he an ATG? Perhaps, borderline ATG I would say due to phenomenal impact in conducive conditions,i.e 11 player of series award to his name.
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Their is no such thing as borderline ATG, he is a rubbish spinner overseas.
If he was an atg or even great he wouldn't be averaging the equivalent of a batsmen in aus and sa and heck his record is medicore everywhere in every country except India.
He is the very definition of a Home spin track bully.
One of the most rubbish spinners I've ever seen overseas and heck the less said about his wb career the better.
Top rated bowler of this generation my foot.
Nathan Lyon is 10x the spinner that Ashwin is, infact his own record in India isn't far off Ashwin despite the fact that he's an overseas bowler and lyon has managed 5 wicket hauls in every country.
The only area lyon is poor in is pakistan but that's cause the pitch was deliberately curated to ensure a draw where rubbish like Imam and Abdullah were batting like bradman on the 5th day and even pakistani media considered it as poor sportsman ship and England eventually had to put pakistan in its place for such duration.
Lyon has consistently been avg 14 to 30 in every country with consistent er's and consistent wickets.
Yet lyon is nowhere near as famous as this too bit fraud who'd somehow considered an atg?
Name the priemere spinners of top countries and I guarantee you their all much superior to Ashwin.
Even Satner would expose Ashwin has satner actually played more test cricket which he doesn't do unfortunately. Adam zampa would have exposed ashwin as well had he prioritised test.
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As someone already posted, India lacks a Pujara type who can bring these Aussie bowlers to their knees and beg for mercy. They are weak anyway but a peak Pujara would've destroyed the bodies and minds of OZ bowlers for 5 Tests . No such figure in the team today.
A drawn test would be an achievement for this ageing team that desperately needs to transition
A drawn test would be an achievement for this ageing team that desperately needs to transition
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No.
You are playing only one spinner , if on last two days if the ball has some help for spinner , you need to have a solid spinner.
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I think BCCI told players to play domestic cricket.
BCCI needs to show balls and ask the top players the reason why they not play and be strict.
Bcci has zero balls or cojones vs big named players. They pee their pants.
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Aswin will come into play only after 3 days .if India can't drag match to 4th day against nz,how they will do it against aus in aus.its better to provide cover for the washed up superstars
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Cummins eyes elusive win against 'under pressure' India
Australia skipper believes his side can draw confidence from New Zealand's shock series win in India
Pat Cummins believes India's historic first series loss to New Zealand at home could deliver his team an advantage and the Australian captain his last major Test achievement.
"I hope so," Cummins told AAP at the launch of his book 'Tested' in Sydney on Tuesday, just three weeks out from the start of Australia's five-Test series against India.
"I think any time a team's under pressure, it's not a bad thing if you're playing against them.
"But they've been out here before and performed well. Our job is to try and keep them quiet, see how we go."
Last week, the Kiwis claimed an unassailable 2-0 lead in their three-Test series against India. New Zealand had failed to win any of their previous 12 series in India, going back to 1955.
Yet Rohit Sharma's men have performed so well in Australia that Cummins, now with 62 Tests under his belt, has never played in a winning series against them.
"It's kind of the one big thing that I want to tick off," Cummins said.
"Particularly winning at home. Most Australians, me included, expect us to do well whenever we play at home.
"We've lost the (last) two series against them (in Australia), so this is a big one. We feel like our team's in a really good place, so we've got no reason why we shouldn't perform really well.
"I just always expect us to do well against whoever we play. But India, particularly, is a big year, big season."
After losing a Test series in India early last year, Australia went on to have a spectacular 2023 against world cricket's superpower.
Australia beat India comprehensively in the World Test Championship final at The Oval ahead of the Ashes, then upset the overwhelming World Cup favourites in the final at Ahmedabad to claim that title.
But of all the teams Australia have played during their past 16 Test series, India are their only opponents they haven't beaten in a series either home or away. That includes twice in Australia, during 2018-19, when Steve Smith and David Warner were suspended, and 2020-21.
That 2020-21 series win by India was something special. India were bowled out for just 36 in their second innings during the first Test in Adelaide thanks to a superb bowling display on a grassy pitch which saw Josh Hazlewood claim five wickets and Cummins four.
Mohammed Shami did not bat in that second innings, having suffered a broken arm from a Cummins short ball earlier in the match which ruled him out of the tour. Virat Kohli returned home after the first Test in Adelaide in 2020 to be with his wife Anushka Sharma for the birth of their first child.
Remarkably, a depleted India turned the tables on Australia with an eight-wicket victory in Melbourne and the Sydney Test was drawn.
An unproductive last day for the Australians at the SCG prompted captain Tim Paine to tell Indian allrounder Ravichandran Ashwin, and the cricket world via stump mic, the bouncy Brisbane pitch would pose a greater challenge.
"Can't wait to get you to the Gabba, Ash," Paine said as Ashwin batted for more than three hours to ensure a draw.
But an injury-riddled India created history in the series finale, scoring 7-329 in the last innings to claim victory by three wickets.
SOURCE: CRICKET.COM.AU
Australia skipper believes his side can draw confidence from New Zealand's shock series win in India
Pat Cummins believes India's historic first series loss to New Zealand at home could deliver his team an advantage and the Australian captain his last major Test achievement.
"I hope so," Cummins told AAP at the launch of his book 'Tested' in Sydney on Tuesday, just three weeks out from the start of Australia's five-Test series against India.
"I think any time a team's under pressure, it's not a bad thing if you're playing against them.
"But they've been out here before and performed well. Our job is to try and keep them quiet, see how we go."
Last week, the Kiwis claimed an unassailable 2-0 lead in their three-Test series against India. New Zealand had failed to win any of their previous 12 series in India, going back to 1955.
Yet Rohit Sharma's men have performed so well in Australia that Cummins, now with 62 Tests under his belt, has never played in a winning series against them.
"It's kind of the one big thing that I want to tick off," Cummins said.
"Particularly winning at home. Most Australians, me included, expect us to do well whenever we play at home.
"We've lost the (last) two series against them (in Australia), so this is a big one. We feel like our team's in a really good place, so we've got no reason why we shouldn't perform really well.
"I just always expect us to do well against whoever we play. But India, particularly, is a big year, big season."
After losing a Test series in India early last year, Australia went on to have a spectacular 2023 against world cricket's superpower.
Australia beat India comprehensively in the World Test Championship final at The Oval ahead of the Ashes, then upset the overwhelming World Cup favourites in the final at Ahmedabad to claim that title.
But of all the teams Australia have played during their past 16 Test series, India are their only opponents they haven't beaten in a series either home or away. That includes twice in Australia, during 2018-19, when Steve Smith and David Warner were suspended, and 2020-21.
That 2020-21 series win by India was something special. India were bowled out for just 36 in their second innings during the first Test in Adelaide thanks to a superb bowling display on a grassy pitch which saw Josh Hazlewood claim five wickets and Cummins four.
Mohammed Shami did not bat in that second innings, having suffered a broken arm from a Cummins short ball earlier in the match which ruled him out of the tour. Virat Kohli returned home after the first Test in Adelaide in 2020 to be with his wife Anushka Sharma for the birth of their first child.
Remarkably, a depleted India turned the tables on Australia with an eight-wicket victory in Melbourne and the Sydney Test was drawn.
An unproductive last day for the Australians at the SCG prompted captain Tim Paine to tell Indian allrounder Ravichandran Ashwin, and the cricket world via stump mic, the bouncy Brisbane pitch would pose a greater challenge.
"Can't wait to get you to the Gabba, Ash," Paine said as Ashwin batted for more than three hours to ensure a draw.
But an injury-riddled India created history in the series finale, scoring 7-329 in the last innings to claim victory by three wickets.
SOURCE: CRICKET.COM.AU
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Master of PR campaign gaikwad dismissed for a duck on first ball. Eswaran too dismissed for 7
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India should have dropped KL. His performance is not up to the mark for a long time now.
Where is jurel??
Where is jurel??
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Jurel is in BGT squad
