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With the Border-Gavaskar trophy now played for over five matches, Starc wants to cleansweep the visitors and bring the silverware home.

"Being five matches now it's probably right on par with an Ashes series. We always want to win every game at home and we know India are a very strong team," he said.

"As we're placed at the minute we're the top two teams on the Test ladder... so a very exciting series coming up for the fans and certainly the players.

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Australia great reveals key factor in battle for Border-Gavaskar Trophy

The former Australia opener suggests what may decide the upcoming Test series when the two combatants meet over five matches in a rematch of last year's World Test Championship final.

Australia great Matthew Hayden expects runs to be a premium when his former side clashes with fellow powerhouse India in the five-Test battle for the Border-Gavaskar Trophy at the end of the year.

It will be the first time in more than 30 years that the two teams will feature across five matches and the series follows an unusual path of commencing in the traditional seamer-friendly conditions in Perth, before moving to Adelaide for the crucial pink-ball Test under lights and finishing in more familiar surroundings of Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney.

With Australia's seam attack featuring skipper Pat Cummins and regulars Mitchell Starc and Josh Hazlewood, Hayden thinks runs will be difficult to come by for both teams Down Under during the crucial ICC World Test Championship series.

"You look at the line-ups, and it's hard to really tell who's got the edge," Hayden told reporters at the CEAT Cricket Rating Awards.

"I sense that it's going to be runs that are going to be the point of difference. So the best need to stand up in this series; runs are going to be at a premium. And I also feel like the structure of the tournament being from the west to the east is a bit of the unique way that the Australian landscape of cricket is going to be played out. It's usually the other way around. It's going to be a great summer."

Australia legend Ricky Ponting recently predicted his former side to win the series 3-1 when speaking on The ICC Review and India great Ravi Shastri unsurprisingly went the other way when asked for his thoughts on how the eagerly-awaited series would transpire.

Hayden believes the fact that the Aussies haven't defeated India in a Test series on home soil in almost 10 years would be playing heavily on the thoughts of the Australian side.

“Look, I was seeing a reel from Ravi Shastri today on Instagram, and he was saying the Aussies hadn’t had the Border-Gavaskar Trophy in their hands for almost a decade. Well, that’s a fighting word straight away," Hayden noted.

“We haven’t had it in our hands for two series in Australia, which is kind of the coveted grounds, not dissimilar to the (former skipper) Steve Waugh era here in 2001, where this was the hallowed turf, this was the place where Australia really wanted to come and win, and his great era didn’t do it.

“So there’s always, and this is why I think it’s such a special series, there’s always this fantastic opportunity for the No.1 and No.2 side on the World Test Championship table to go head-to-head, especially abroad, in each other’s camps, and see who really has those kind of final rights to claim not only the possibility of playing the Test Championship, but also who’s the very best of the best, which you judge on how you tour, not so much how you play at home."

And Hayden issued a word of warning for youngster Yashasvi Jaiswal, who is expected to line-up for India in his first tour of Australia after making a scintillating start to his international Test career.

Jaiswal has three centuries from nine Test matches and is averaging 68.53 following a flying start to five-day cricket, but Hayden thinks the left-hander will not find things so simple against Australia away from home.

"I think he's a package," Hayden said of Jaiswal.

"Yes, his stroke-play is superb. His ability, in particular, to hit on the up through the covers is phenomenal. [But] that'll also have its vulnerabilities. I'm looking forward to seeing how he adjusts on bouncy tracks. We did notice a few times in the IPL that he's a very hard hitter of the ball - [with the] pull shots in particular.

"But that'll be challenged by three world-class speedsters, assuming they're all fit, and on much bigger grounds as well - grounds where it has to almost be the perfect contact for that ball to sail over for six. You can get caught easily, three-quarters of the way in the fence. So they have little adjustments that world-class players like Jaiswal will make for sure."

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Flurry of statements are coming from Australian players ( Current or former) about this series

Mind games already started and i think this will be going to heated series after 2017 .

Last few series between india - australia were played without any controversy or heated argument which i really don't like .

I want more sledging from both sides .
 
Devadwal said:
Flurry of statements are coming from Australian players ( Current or former) about this series

Mind games already started and i think this will be going to heated series after 2017 .

Last few series between india - australia were played without any controversy or heated argument which i really don't like .

I want more sledging from both sides .
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They are trying to generate publicity in their country for the sport. They hope for more Aussie fans in the stadiums than Indian fans. :mc Otherwise every test will feel like an away game for them.
 
Croma said:
They are trying to generate publicity in their country for the sport. They hope for more Aussie fans in the stadiums than Indian fans. :mc Otherwise every test will feel like an away game for them.
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All test will be full house .day 1 is already sold out .

This is not any publicity stunts but Australia is very much desperate to win a series against india , that's why they will do anything to win the series .first they schedule the series the way they wanted ,starting at taught venues for indian - Perth, Day night test then Brisbane .

They are yet to win a series against india from a decade .
 
This is slowly turning out to be one of the most hyped Test series of all time. And for a good reason to be honest.

A proper 5 Test rubber between the two best sides in the world by clear margin. Can't get more intense than this. Probably the first of it's kind since those legendary Aus-WI clashes in the late 1980s.
 

Bowling Green ready to be rolled out against India​


While Cameron Green admits he may one day have to put his second favourite skill on the backburner, the allrounder is eager to take up Pat Cummins' summons for him to shoulder a greater bowling workload this summer.

Four years after making his Test debut against India in the 2020-21 home series, Green heads into the return bout as one of Australia's most important players after justifying a promotion up the order when he posted a sparkling 174no against New Zealand earlier this year.

That came after he was squeezed out of the Test team by Mitch Marsh during last year's Ashes series. Steve Smith taking on David Warner's opening spot after the latter's retirement in January freed up the No.4 position, two spots higher than where Green had spent the bulk of his initial Test stint.

Even more responsibility for the multi-skilled prodigy is now on the cards for the five-Test Border-Gavaskar Trophy series beginning at his home ground, Perth Stadium, on November 22.

Australia have been loath to over-bowl the towering paceman amid his ascension to becoming an all-format player, particularly given the lower back injuries he suffered during his younger years.

Green has made no secret that batting is the discipline that generally takes precedence in his preparation. While he acknowledges tough choices on bowling may eventually be a consideration, he insists that those calls are a long way down the road.

"I've thought about it as an 'in 10 years' time sort of thing'," the 25-year-old told cricket.com.au when asked if he would consider giving away – or at least consider deprioritising – a bowling career that has so far netted him 35 Test wickets at 35.31.

"But definitely at the moment I'm very happy to contribute as much as I can. Physically I'm in a really good place to be able to do that.

"We always laugh and joke between me and Mitch about who bowls those graveyard overs between the 70th and the 80th overs when the ball is not doing anything. We'll wait and see how we do it this summer.

"But now my body's in a really good place where I feel like I can contribute with bowling. Down the track it's definitely an option but at the moment I'm very happy to be a genuine allrounder."

That will be a major weapon for Cummins, the spearhead of an Australian bowling attack that won six out of seven Tests in under four days last summer (the one they lost also ended with a day to spare) and left little for Marsh and Green to do with the ball.

Marsh did not bowl more than nine overs in an innings all summer, while Green only topped that mark twice after being recalled for the Adelaide Test against West Indies, bowling 10 in an innings at the Gabba and 11 in an innings in Christchurch.

"In some ways we haven't had to use them as much as we thought we would, which is a great thing," Cummins said this week. "The last couple of summers have been pretty light (with) quick Test matches.

"I suspect this summer might be a bit different at times. We'll be drawing on Cam Green and Mitch Marsh a bit more.

"Even someone like Cam basically started in Shield cricket as a bowler but hasn't had to bowl heaps in Test matches. Now he is a few years older, I think we will be leaning on him a bit more."

Both Green and the national selectors alike acknowledged one of the major factors in his breakthrough knock in Wellington in February was the decision for him to miss white-ball games in the lead-in to the NZ Test series.

The right-hander instead played a Sheffield Shield match for WA, peeling off an unbeaten 103 against Tasmania to ensure he headed across the ditch in prime red-ball form.

Coach Andrew McDonald has previously flagged the possibility of a similar approach ahead of the forthcoming India campaign, which sees Australia face Pakistan in home limited-overs games through early-November.

But Green is committed to establishing himself in Australia's white-ball sides given he remains only a fringe ODI and T20I player at present.

"Obviously had a bit of success with it last year," said Green, who has been named in both white-ball squads for the next month's tour of the United Kingdom and will be in consideration for next year's ODI Champions Trophy.

"Having an extended break (from white-ball cricket) before a Test tour, it's going to help for sure. I really enjoyed doing it last year and there's potentially a chance to do it again this year.

"I obviously love playing for WA, playing Shield cricket is awesome, I think it's the best preparation you can have for a Test tour.

"But at the same time you always want to play for Australia, especially when there always seems to be a World Cup or a Champions Trophy just around the corner.

"If you decide to not do a white-ball series, is it going to hurt your chances for the Champions Trophy, for example? There's always these things you've got to weigh up. So it's still up in the air."

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Mesozoic said:
This is slowly turning out to be one of the most hyped Test series of all time. And for a good reason to be honest.

A proper 5 Test rubber between the two best sides in the world by clear margin. Can't get more intense than this. Probably the first of it's kind since those legendary Aus-WI clashes in the late 1980s.
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And you are taking a lone match in England over the most hyped test series ever?

All those posters who are claiming that they prefer WTC win will change their opinion in a month or so when the hype gets stronger.
 
Former Australia coach John Buchanan told local Indian media at an event:

"Australia (has), since losing to India in the last series, the pace bowling attack with (off-spinner Nathan) Lyon, backed up now by Cameron Green or Mitch Marsh, is just a really, really powerful bowling lineup."

"India's top order, (Yashasvi) Jaiswal, (Rohit) Sharma himself, (Virat) Kohli, possibly Iyer… they've got to bat really well to establish totals and then the likes of (Jasprit) Bumrah, (Mohammed) Shami, (Mohammed) Siraj will come into their own."

"The previous series that India won — important from both, Indian perspective and an Australian perspective — a little bit of the mind games will go into the pre-series."

"But for all that, those games have passed, those players are gone and the current players we have both in the Australian side and the Indian side, they're at a stage of their careers where they all want to perform. I looked at the ages and India has got some aging players in that side notably Rohit who's 37 and Kohli is 35, (Ravichandran) Ashwin, if he tours, he's 37 and you look at the Australian side, there's only one or two players who are under 30."

"It'll be very much a battle again between the very good pace bowling attacks of both sides and how well the top order players of both sides can deal with the ball that will bounce, seam and probably swing a little bit more in the day-night game in Adelaide."

"Why Australia plays well at home is they do bat well, they understand their conditions, but that lineup of (Pat) Cummins, (Mitchell) Starc, (Josh) Hazlewood, backed up by Lyon, is just one of the all-time best all-round attacks that world cricket has seen."

"Albeit that, Starc is (nearly) 35, Hazlewood is 33, and Cummins is 31 — it's a five-Test series — so if India can not only bat well, but bat for long periods of time, then it will test the physical capacities of that Australian bowling attack and therein potentially lies a little bit of a key to how India can look at winning the series."

"Australia is favourite going into the series right at this stage. When you look around world cricket these days — and it has been (the case) for some time — it's very difficult to tour other countries."

"(The) travelling teams no longer have that preparation in a country. They don't play two or three games prior to playing the first Test match to adjust to a country, because nobody wants to tour for that long."

"That makes it very difficult when you go to Perth, when it's fast and bouncy, for a side that's coming from, they will have played Bangladesh (and New Zealand) obviously, but Bangladesh at home isn't it? "The wickets are going to be completely different, albeit it's fantastic lead-in that they're playing some Test cricket, but it's going to be quite difficult to go to Perth to start with."
 
Mesozoic said:
This is slowly turning out to be one of the most hyped Test series of all time. And for a good reason to be honest.

A proper 5 Test rubber between the two best sides in the world by clear margin. Can't get more intense than this. Probably the first of it's kind since those legendary Aus-WI clashes in the late 1980s.
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Without the shrewd Shastri and Bharat Arun and worse the temperamental/inflammable Gambhir in charge the tour could unravel pretty quickly ... we shall see but it promises to be an epic series especially if we draw or win the 1st test. Need to send a squad of 20 players atleast from past experience.
 
This is going to one hell of a a series. Australia will be looking to take revenge while india will be looking to put another nail in the coffin of the hosts. Could be a last tour for rohit and virat ig
 
Could it be indias revenge for 2023?

Or will it be Aussies revenge for losing last 4 series to India.
 
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Could it be indias revenge for 2023?

Or will it be Aussies revenge for losing last 4 series to India.
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5 test series. Should be fun either way.
 
I think it will be a tough series for jaiswal ..If he finds it easy then it will be a different ball game as Indian batting line-up gets a lot of confidence from that ..If he finds it tough as expected India needs a lot from experienced batsman like Rohit and Kohli to make it a competitive series..Indian bowling line up will be a match to australian counterparts ..
 
During a recent Q/A session on sports media outlet, Dinesh Karthik was asked about Pujara and Rahane’s replacements in the Team India for Australia tour:

“Shubman Gill and Sarfaraz Khan. Both of those batters have done really well against England in the home series that recently happened at the start of the year. I have a feeling both of them will definitely be on that flight to Australia and will be trying to do their best. We will know if they’re able to replace both Ajinkya and Pujji (Pujara). Big shoes to fill, but they have the quality and calibre in them.”
 
Advaith said:
I think it will be a tough series for jaiswal ..If he finds it easy then it will be a different ball game as Indian batting line-up gets a lot of confidence from that ..
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Perth will be tough for him to start.if he can start the innings in Adelaide in day light,it will give him the best chance to score big.He can definitely survive gabba if he improves after Perth. Melbourne and Sydney should be easy for him as mayank himself scored with out much worry in his first tour.But Jaiswal should be part of any A tour for better practice ahead of test series
 
Sarfaraz is not getting in the Xi ahead of KL. Barring injuries, the test XI is pretty much a lock for the time being.

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"Hum Unko Bhagayenge": Ex-India Chief Selector's Bold Prediction For Border-Gavaskar Trophy​


Team India will tour Australia for a highly-anticipated five-match Test series later this year. Australia have had a historical edge over India in Test bilaterals. However, they haven't between India home or away since the 2014-15 series Down Under. In fact, during that period, India have won all four Test series between the two nations, including back-to-back wins on Australian soil. Former Team India chief selector Chetan Sharma feels that the Rohit Sharma-led side will make Australia run in their own backyard in the upcoming Border-Gavaskar Trophy.

Sharma, who was the chief selector during India's last tour of Australia, feels that the visitors will have the edge over the hosts, having dominated the Pat Cummins-led side in recent times.

"There was a time when we used to think about what would happen when we went to Australia. How will we perform? And for the last two tours, we went to Australia and beat them. Previously, Australia used to take us lightly but now they know they have to play out of their skins to beat India. We have built that reputation. We are currently the No.1-ranked team in the world. We will not only will give them a tough fight but we will make them run in their own backyard (hum unko bhagaynge unke hi ghar mein). I have a lot of confidence in the players," Sharma told RevSportz.

Sharma also suggested that the Jasprit Bumrah-led bowling attack will be the team's trump card this around.

"I have said multiple times that bowlers will win you Test matches. Right now, Tea India has the best bowling attack in the world. We have always had good batters. At times, in foreign conditions, you get pitches when teams get bowled out for 250-260. Do you have the bowling attack to get them out? We have seen it in recent times that we have bowlers to bowl the opposition out for even 150. Our bowlers are our trump card," he added.

For the record, this will be the first time since the early 1990s that India will be playing a five-match Test series in Australia.

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India won the last two tour of Australia with an identical scoreline of 2-1. In 2018-19, the Virat Kohli led side won the final and decisive Test in Sydney.

On the other hand, Kohli only played one match of the last tour as Ajinkya Rahane guided the team to victory in his absence.

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Love watching R Ashwin bowl, says Nathan Lyon ahead of Border-Gavaskar battle​


Australia's star spinner Nathan Lyon has heaped praise on India's ace off-spinner R Ashwin ahead of the much-anticipated Border-Gavaskar Trophy, set to begin on November 22. In an exclusive interaction with Star Sports, Lyon revisited his long-standing rivalry with Ashwin and expressed his deep respect for the Indian spinner's mastery.

Lyon, who started his Test career around the same time as Ashwin, highlighted the fierce yet respectful competition between them over the years. Ashwin, earlier this year, reached the remarkable milestone of 500 Test wickets during India's series against England, while Lyon himself boasts an impressive tally of 530 Test wickets. Their parallel journeys have seen them emerge as two of the greatest off-spinners in modern cricket.

As the upcoming Border-Gavaskar Trophy looms, fans are eagerly anticipating another chapter in the rivalry between Lyon and Ashwin. The four-match series will see both spinners play pivotal roles, with the potential for a thrilling head-to-head battle that could shape the outcome of the series.

"I know Ashwin and we debuted around similar times and we've competed against each other in a number of series now and between me and Ashwin I have got nothing but respect for him. I feel like I love watching him bowl, he's an absolute master in the craft of off-spin bowling and it's been an absolute privilege to play against him and learn off him," Lyon said

Lyon acknowledged Ashwin's expertise and expressed his excitement about facing the Indian squad, which he described as being full of superstars. Lyon emphasized that competing against the best, including Ashwin, has always been a driving force in his career.

“I've always said throughout my whole career I want to compete against the best and you look through the whole Indian line-up, the whole squad, there's absolute superstars everywhere you look and you want to compete and challenge yourself against them..." Lyon added.

Adding to the anticipation, Australia’s batting sensation Marnus Labuschagne also shared his thoughts with Star Sports, focusing on India’s formidable fast-bowling attack. Labuschagne pointed out that India’s pace bowlers, known for their effectiveness in Australian conditions, present a tough challenge.

"To these two teams, it doesn't matter where we're playing, if it's in England, Australia, or India, it's always a tough contest. India's fast bowling is very good, which is really what brings them into Australian conditions and makes them such a tough team to beat in Australian conditions. Hopefully this summer we can turn the tables on India and put them under real pressure," Labuschagne said.

With both teams brimming with talent and determination, the Border-Gavaskar Trophy promises to be an intense and closely contested series.

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Australia coy on Steve Smith role for upcoming India Test series

The Aussies are still tossing up where Steve Smith sits in their playing XI for the crucial Test series against India.

Australia are remaining tightlipped as to whether experienced batter Steve Smith will continue in his role as opener during the upcoming Border-Gavaskar Test series against India.

Smith has been a rock in Australia's middle-order for more than a decade, but was moved up to an unfamiliar role at the top alongside Usman Khawaja with mixed success when fellow veteran David Warner retired from Test cricket at the start of the year.

Smith managed one half-century and averaged just 28.50 from four Tests against the West Indies and New Zealand, with the 35-year-old's best innings coming in a narrow loss to the Caribbean side in Brisbane when he managed an unbeaten 91*.

But with India set to travel Down Under for a five-match series that will help determine who reaches next year's ICC World Test Championship final, Australia are still tossing up whether Smith will remain as opener or revert back to his more preferred batting position at No.4.

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Andrew McDonald was quizzed about what his side will do with Smith on Tuesday, 10 September but the Australia coach refused to give away too much.

“That's the question on everyone's lips, isn't it? While we've got an eye to it, we haven't made any firm decisions around that one,” McDonald said on Australian radio station SEN.

“There’s plenty of speculation around that. But in the background, I'd be lying if I said the conversation wasn't happening.

“There are conversations around a lot of what ifs in terms of that Test summer that is to come.

“We'll unveil everything, and we'll let (Smith's coach at domestic level) Greg Shipperd know what our plans are and then we'll see what he does with his New South Wales side should Steve Smith play (Sheffield) Shield cricket.

McDonald is currently in the United Kingdom ahead of Australia's white-ball series against England having overseen their recent T20I series sweep over Scotland in Edinburgh.

With Australia's Test captain Pat Cummins skipping the European tour and instead resting at home, McDonald indicated any selection matter for the India series would be put on the backburner for the time being.

“What am I willing to share? Not a lot at this stage. All I can say is the conversation's happening,” McDonald added.

“Clearly, Patty Cummins as the captain is a big part of that, he’s rehabbing at the moment, he’s not over here (in Europe).

“We've already had some chats in Sydney initially around what we're thinking for the summer, and that goes right down to depth bowling and what it looks like, all those hypotheticals and what ifs that we always go through.

“Clearly, if we make a shift with Steve Smith, then someone else will have to go to the top.

“We've seen Cameron Green be really successful at No.4 as well. So that sort of adds layers to the decision-making.

“But nothing is firm and fixed on at the moment.”

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Nathan Lyon told a local Indian sports media outlet in an interview:

"Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, and Rishabh Pant are probably going to be the three really big ones. But then you've still got Jaiswal, Shubman Gill, Jadeja, and who else will come out-another five, I'm not sure. But it's a pretty amazing line-up they've got, so it's going to be a massive challenge. As I said, if we, as a bowling group, are good enough for long periods, hopefully, we can challenge their defence."
 
During an interview with local Indian media, Glenn Maxwell expressed his excitement to see Virat Kohli and Steve Smith go head-to-head against each other in the upcoming Border Gavaskar series:

"I think probably the way that the two superstar batters, Steve Smith and Virat Kohli, probably head-to-head, seeing how their dominance I suppose is asserted on the series and how much of an influence that has on who takes home the Border Gavaskar Trophy. One of those two is going to make a lot of runs, if not both of them, and it's going to be pretty exciting to watch the two of the finest players of our generation go head-to-head."
 
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As an indian fan - My 5c's worth on this series.

Why I think India wont be successful

No Che Pu.

The one single most impact player in the last 2 series.

- Dude is the sponge that absorbs the blows, the guy that draws the sting out of the scorpion, the guy who contributes max to make the opposition take the 3rd new ball& also scores the runs.

- In a long 5 test series in the hot Aussie summer - the fitness of the Aus bowlers will be tested and Che pu would have been a massive contributing factor to set the cat amongst the pigeons.

- has India replaced him? Not really.

- Don't think Sarfraz Khan with his predominant bottom handed subcontinent forward press kind of gameis the solution, much like Dhoni will absorb balls and tire out bowlers

KL is too flashy and gives too many chances.

Hitman is surely on his last test legs.

Hoping VK has a block buster of a series and Rishabh, Jadz, Ash and co contribute a lot swinging from the hip.

- in his short one test career i felt the closest we could get to Che Pu was Devdutt Padikkal. Dude has the defence and the strokes. Has the patience as shown in that one test appearance, got a 50 + and was looking good for a big one when he got out. In the aftermath and the glow of that series win, he was the one guy every one has forgotten and also his innings didnt get the credit it deserved.

- The other option could be Washi Sundar - dude does have the basic defense and is a handy bowling option.

- U can throw in no Rahane either - you are missign someone with massive experience not only in the middle but out in the slips as well.

In short - do we have someone with patience who can bat ugly, who can annoy the bowlers to boredom, who can stick like a limpet to the crease?

Any one who is good at Sweeping and can apply it effectively against Nathan Lyon? - dont think so.

Bowling

We will surely miss a guy like Ishant and his solid 22-25 ov spells per day, he was the bowling equivalent of Che pu. You knew he had one end tied up and the others could attack from the other end. He showed this all thru 2015-2021 till he was discarded. He was our Neil Wagner, our Even Chatfield, our Ryan Harris our Angus Fraser kinda work horse-would just step up bowl, bowl and bowl .

for the others - Siraj has to step up, take responsibility of the enforcer and bowl max in all 5 tests. Hopefully the spin twins can share the workload allowing Jassi and Shami to attack from the other end.

What india needs to be successful: -

We have to get some unknowns - ie Mayank Yadav, umraan, Kuldeep Sen, or someone who bowls 145 kmph - just to push them Aussie bats onto the back foot. A bowler of this kind would surely lend a different dimension to our attack.

Or maybe the unkown X factor might come from Yash jaiswal - if he has a good first session, that can send the thunderflash down them Aussie trousers and make it easier for the rest - much like what Veeru used to do.

I feel we need to get to Melbourne by being only 0-1. If we can do that we have a pretty good chance in Melbourne given the unpredictable pitch and Sydney where it turns and Kuldeep can be a massive factor - like 2018.

Imagine if we Drew the first test at PERTH - Auz would be bricks.

All in all as an indian fan- not too confident - i wold think 1- 3 is looming- sorry for the pessimism....but happy to be proven wrong :)
 
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CrIc_Mystique said:
As an indian fan - My 5c's worth on this series.

Why I think India wont be successful

No Che Pu.

The one single most impact player in the last 2 series.

- Dude is the sponge that absorbs the blows, the guy that draws the sting out of the scorpion, the guy who contributes max to make the opposition take the 3rd new ball& also scores the runs.

- In a long 5 test series in the hot Aussie summer - the fitness of the Aus bowlers will be tested and Che pu would have been a massive contributing factor to set the cat amongst the pigeons.

- has India replaced him? Not really.

- Don't think Sarfraz Khan with his predominant bottom handed subcontinent forward press kind of gameis the solution, much like Dhoni will absorb balls and tire out bowlers

KL is too flashy and gives too many chances.

Hitman is surely on his last test legs.

Hoping VK has a block buster of a series and Rishabh, Jadz, Ash and co contribute a lot swinging from the hip.

- in his short one test career i felt the closest we could get to Che Pu was Devdutt Padikkal. Dude has the defence and the strokes. Has the patience as shown in that one test appearance, got a 50 + and was looking good for a big one when he got out. In the aftermath and the glow of that series win, he was the one guy every one has forgotten and also his innings didnt get the credit it deserved.

- The other option could be Washi Sundar - dude does have the basic defense and is a handy bowling option.

- U can throw in no Rahane either - you are missign someone with massive experience not only in the middle but out in the slips as well.

In short - do we have someone with patience who can bat ugly, who can annoy the bowlers to boredom, who can stick like a limpet to the crease?

Any one who is good at Sweeping and can apply it effectively against Nathan Lyon? - dont think so.

Bowling

We will surely miss a guy like Ishant and his solid 22-25 ov spells per day, he was the bowling equivalent of Che pu. You knew he had one end tied up and the others could attack from the other end. He showed this all thru 2015-2021 till he was discarded. He was our Neil Wagner, our Even Chatfield, our Ryan Harris our Angus Fraser kinda work horse-would just step up bowl, bowl and bowl .

for the others - Siraj has to step up, take responsibility of the enforcer and bowl max in all 5 tests. Hopefully the spin twins can share the workload allowing Jassi and Shami to attack from the other end.

What india needs to be successful: -

We have to get some unknowns - ie Mayank Yadav, umraan, Kuldeep Sen, or someone who bowls 145 kmph - just to push them Aussie bats onto the back foot. A bowler of this kind would surely lend a different dimension to our attack.

Or maybe the unkown X factor might come from Yash jaiswal - if he has a good first session, that can send the thunderflash down them Aussie trousers and make it easier for the rest - much like what Veeru used to do.

I feel we need to get to Melbourne by being only 0-1. If we can do that we have a pretty good chance in Melbourne given the unpredictable pitch and Sydney where it turns and Kuldeep can be a massive factor - like 2018.

Imagine if we Drew the first test at PERTH - Auz would be bricks.

All in all as an indian fan- not too confident - i wold think 1- 3 is looming- sorry for the pessimism....but happy to be proven wrong :)
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It's a myth that it turns in scg. It's flat as hell. That's why marnus etc make merry there.

I think we will lose 2-1 as well. Not 3-1. But you never know.
 
BouncerGuy said:
WHo will score the most runs in this series???

VIRAT?
SMITH?
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Easily Smith

Varat is finished. I think he will struggle badly.

Even last time he only averaged 40 in aus.

He did good in SA but he is weak vs Cummins and hazlewood. He will be lucky to average 30 Max I feel.

Maybe he will throw a hissy fit and go home again
 
Pat Cummins speaking during an interview on Star Sports:

"Every team has one or two of those players who take the game on. Australia have Travis Head and Mitchell Marsh. I think those guys, you know that they are going to be aggressive, take the game on. Like Rishabh Pant might play a reverse slap and it is an incredible shot and that's just part of who he is."

"He's someone that has a big influence in a couple of series and we have go to try and keep him quiet."
 
I have thought about the upcoming BGT (as a betting person) and I have decided to put my (real) money on AUS. The betting sites obviously agree with that - AUS is paying 1.6 vs IND at 2.32. Personally, I think the odds for India need to be longer.

My reasoning is simple. While individual brilliance would count, a long 5 test series away is won on doing the basics right in each of the sessions. AUS were found out the last two times because their big 3 quicks were tired out since they lacked a viable AR (Green could not bowl) and Pujara being Pujara.

AUS have Green and Marsh as two tall relief bowlers who can bowl at 140 clicks. Even if India had someone of Pujara's quality this time, they'd still struggle to put the hours in their big 3 like they did the last two times. But in fact, India do not have Pujara this time. We only have stroke players from number 1 to 6 and two of them are way past their use-by date.

On top of this is the mental exertion of being on a tough tour like this where everything else is stacked against you. Touring teams and players often check out mentally by the time 4th and 5th tests roll in. I see it happen to teams visiting India and even in the last Ashes, AUS were running on fumes in the last matches.

Mentally prepared for a clean sweep.
 
Australians fear Rishabh Pant the most. If India has to do well, Pant & Gill need to make most runs in the series.
 
Hardik Pandya is also getting ready to play Ranji with his sights set on BGT. Gambhir & Rohit have probably asked him to play Ranji incase India needs him in Australia. Most likely Hardik & Shardul Thakur will be part of the touring party.
 
Pandya can be a good option for 4th bowler spot in Perth, Adelaide, Gabba.so if he can sustain In 2 matches (mainly at waca, gabba )it's a good addition for india with pandya at 7,jadeja at 8.As aus is not a place for swing unlike eng, he can score .whoever brought him back for atleast aus tour should be applauded
 
TRIPLE TICKET SALES FOR BGT..

India Vs Australia boxing day Test Day 1 sales rockets 3 times compared to 2018 Boxing Day Test Day 1 sales
 
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Aus should win it.

5 tests series is too long with first 3 tests in hugely favorable venues for Aus. Series may be done by then.
 
Buffet said:
Aus should win it.

5 tests series is too long with first 3 tests in hugely favorable venues for Aus. Series may be done by then.
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No .this will be close series ,yes australia is favourite but still this is going to be very close series .

Pandya is almost back for BGT as 4th Pacers , Shami is almost fit .

Bumrah
Siraj
Shami
Pandya
Akashdeep
Jadeja/ Ashwin

This is very good bowling option for first Three test .
 
Devadwal said:
No .this will be close series ,yes australia is favourite but still this is going to be very close series .

Pandya is almost back for BGT as 4th Pacers , Shami is almost fit .

Bumrah
Siraj
Shami
Pandya
Akashdeep
Jadeja/ Ashwin

This is very good bowling option for first Three test .
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Only Akashdeep/ Pandya
 
Last Time India's away test series got this hype was back in 2011 when we tour Eng as WC champions and No 1 test rank team. We lost that series 4-0 :dw
 
Buffet said:
Aus should win it.

5 tests series is too long with first 3 tests in hugely favorable venues for Aus. Series may be done by then.
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It does feel surreal that we could go to Australia and win 3 times in a row so yes they're probably favourites.

I very much doubt it'll be done by the end of the third test though. Our bowling at full strength is too formidable for that. Both batting line-ups are brittle but ours is a shade more brittle.
 
Indian team battling really weak this time jaiswal never played in Australia rohit test record in Australia not that great kohli almost done Rahul will be walking wicket

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Mitch Marsh and Cam Green bowling makes a massive difference. I wonder if there will be a few bowling shootouts considering the green tops Australia is rolling out nowadays.
 
sindhiboy said:
Mitch Marsh and Cam Green bowling makes a massive difference. I wonder if there will be a few bowling shootouts considering the green tops Australia is rolling out nowadays.
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Mitchell Marsh hasn't bowled in 6 months. Even if he does get back to bowling by November when the first test starts, I doubt his bowling will be a significant factor. Cameron Green is pretty useful.

This is why the Indian team is dabbling with the likes of Shardul and Pandya to give themselves that extra batter.
 
Devadwal said:
No .this will be close series ,yes australia is favourite but still this is going to be very close series .

Pandya is almost back for BGT as 4th Pacers , Shami is almost fit .

Bumrah
Siraj
Shami
Pandya
Akashdeep
Jadeja/ Ashwin

This is very good bowling option for first Three test .
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Only reason it'll be close is because of chucker bumrah who cheats. It's just that Australia plays fair and decides to never chuck and have never cheated In their life

Bumrah and harbajan be hiding behind the word Double Jointed Hyperextension.

BCCI shpuld hand over icc reigns back to Australia as aussies are their rightful owner and aussies should now introduce a new rule banning Bumrah's action.
 
MANU ROY said:
Indian team battling really weak this time jaiswal never played in Australia rohit test record in Australia not that great kohli almost done Rahul will be walking wicket

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Agreed...we're taking one of our weakest batting line-ups to Australia.

Only thing that gives me hope is that Australia is equally hobbled.
Smith hasn't settled as an opener.
Khwaja's looking pretty fragile
For all our complaints about Rahul, Marsh averages 30!
Carey's just okay as a wicketkeeper batter

It'll be two incredible bowling attacks against two severely compromised batting line-ups. The only reason I'd give Australia the edge is they're playing in familiar conditions.
 
mominsaigol said:
Only reason it'll be close is because of chucker bumrah who cheats. It's just that Australia plays fair and decides to never chuck and have never cheated In their life

Bumrah and harbajan be hiding behind the word Double Jointed Hyperextension.

BCCI shpuld hand over icc reigns back to Australia as aussies are their rightful owner and aussies should now introduce a new rule banning Bumrah's action.
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Beta tumse nahin hoga. Jao, so jao.
 
sindhiboy said:
Mitch Marsh and Cam Green bowling makes a massive difference. I wonder if there will be a few bowling shootouts considering the green tops Australia is rolling out nowadays.
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Unlikely we'd see green tops. It'd be mostly flat but bouncier and pacier. AUS are not going to take a punt on their batting line up surviving those. They know they might meet the same fate Indians did when they dished out turners in 2017.
 
mominsaigol said:
Only reason it'll be close is because of chucker bumrah who cheats. It's just that Australia plays fair and decides to never chuck and have never cheated In their life

Bumrah and harbajan be hiding behind the word Double Jointed Hyperextension.

BCCI shpuld hand over icc reigns back to Australia as aussies are their rightful owner and aussies should now introduce a new rule banning Bumrah's action.
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Another brainfade. No wonder I don't take your view seriously anymore
 
This is going to be a transition tour for India. Remember how India lost under mSD back to back in England and Australia during transition.
 
This tour will end in tears for Indian fans who'll realise their team is nothing and just riding on the coattails of Bumrah.
 
I agree this time india is in transition. Best chance for aus to win a series vs india in tests after 10 years.

We will be in tears.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
This is going to be a transition tour for India. Remember how India lost under mSD back to back in England and Australia during transition.
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Nah this time our bowling attack has enough experience so are batters. Only jaiswal will Play first time in australia

Gill , jaisawal and pant are the key batters to Post a competitive score .pitch most likely greenish atleast for first 3 test matches

I hope Hardik come back as he will give us much needed balance for first three test .

Rohit
Jaiswal
KL / Gill
Virat
Gill/ KL
Pant
Hardilk
Jadeja
Siraj
Shami
Bumrah .
 
All those who are coping and crying by claiming India is on transition knowing full well Australia already beat them in wtc series.

And yes it was a series, a 5 day series of torture and pain and misery.
 
Devadwal said:
Nah this time our bowling attack has enough experience so are batters. Only jaiswal will Play first time in australia

Gill , jaisawal and pant are the key batters to Post a competitive score .pitch most likely greenish atleast for first 3 test matches

I hope Hardik come back as he will give us much needed balance for first three test .

Rohit
Jaiswal
KL / Gill
Virat
Gill/ KL
Pant
Hardilk
Jadeja
Siraj
Shami
Bumrah .
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All i see are tailenders
 
mominsaigol said:
This tour will end in tears for Indian fans who'll realise their team is nothing and just riding on the coattails of Bumrah.
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We are happy with 4 series wins in a row. So a loss won't hurt fans. I remember the euphoria from some fans after India lost pink ball Test. That didn't end well for them. Australia has just lost to an insipid West Indies side at the Gabba. They must be really high on confidence.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
We are happy with 4 series wins in a row. So a loss won't hurt fans. I remember the euphoria from some fans after India lost pink ball Test. That didn't end well for them. Australia has just lost to an insipid West Indies side at the Gabba. They must be really high on confidence.
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jnaveen1980 said:
We are happy with 4 series wins in a row. So a loss won't hurt fans. I remember the euphoria from some fans after India lost pink ball Test. That didn't end well for them. Australia has just lost to an insipid West Indies side at the Gabba. They must be really high on confidence.
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I'm sure you told yourself that in wc final 2023 as well
 
mominsaigol said:
I'm sure you told yourself that in wc final 2023 as well
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Did in 2024, 2019 :) Even in 2023 India did beat Australia in the early rounds. Just remember this. This Australian side could not beat West Indies in a series at home. That is a stigma in this day and age. England just butchered them 3-0.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Did in 2024, 2019 :) Even in 2023 India did beat Australia in the early rounds. Just remember this. This Australian side could not beat West Indies in a series at home. That is a stigma in this day and age. England just butchered them 3-0.
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All I remember is Indians leaving 2 hrs before the game concluded in the final 🫠
 
mominsaigol said:
All I remember is Indians leaving 2 hrs before the game concluded in the final 🫠
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You can brag all you want. India has given it right back to them. BGT has been in the hands of India 4 series in a row. Lyon sounds more desperate than you in reclaiming it. By the way Australia is yet to win in India in a Test series since 2004. That is 20 years.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You can brag all you want. India has given it right back to them. BGT has been in the hands of India 4 series in a row. Lyon sounds more desperate than you in reclaiming it. By the way Australia is yet to win in India in a Test series since 2004. That is 20 years.
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Yeah because of cheating curated pitches. India has to chest with chukcers and curated pitches to win lo
 
jnaveen1980 said:
By the way Australia is yet to win in India in a Test series since 2004. That is 20 years.
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Before that in 1969.so almost 55 years ,they had 1 series win.Even that solitary win was due to loss of 1 final day where india had a very good chance to equalise the series
 
A team that has a 100% losing record in Australia in Tests since 1998 is lecturing India 😆
 
mominsaigol said:
First fix that 100% record in finals against australia then we'll talk
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Naah, I was speaking of Pakistan. Australia is unmatchable anyways. Anyone with a brain knows that. No team comes even remotely close to the Aussies. And yet we have won our last 2 Test series there. The most humiliating thing a team can go through is losing a Test series at home, let alone 2 in a row.

The most comical thing is when a team loses each and every single Test match it plays in Australia since 1998 till date. So much that Ian Chappell had to say that Australia should stop inviting Pakistan.​
 
Hitman said:
Naah, I was speaking of Pakistan. Australia is unmatchable anyways. Anyone with a brain knows that. No team comes even remotely close to the Aussies. And yet we have won our last 2 Test series there. The most humiliating thing a team can go through is losing a Test series at home, let alone 2 in a row.

The most comical thing is when a team loses each and every single Test match it plays in Australia since 1998 till date. So much that Ian Chappell had to say that Australia should stop inviting Pakistan.​
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Ian Chappell tells Pakistan to improve their cricket or stay home​


Former Australia captain Ian Chappell believes Cricket Australia shouldn't invite Pakistan cricket team for Test series Down Under in future until the struggling Asian side up their game significantly and provide some sort of challenge to the home side.

The visitors were whitewashed in the recent three-match Test series against the Baggy Green, and apart from the final day of the opening Test at the Gabba, they rarely threatened the hosts.

Pakistan were outplayed in every aspect of the game, disappointing those who had hoped to see a closely contested series in the light of their impressive form at their adopted home of UAE.

Coupled with their 2-0 defeat at the hands of New Zealand, captain Misbahul Haq's men lost all five Tests in the past two months, leading Chappell to question the wisdom of inviting a team that looks a shadow of itself on their travels.

"Pakistan have now lost 12 Test matches on the trot in Australia, and somebody's got to give them a kick up the bum. Cricket Australia have got to start saying 'listen if things don't improve we will stop with the invites'," Chappell, who feels Pakistan's poor fielding at the Melbourne Cricket Ground was a sign of things to come in the rest of the series, told ESPN.

"You can't continue to [play poor] cricket. You can't bowl poorly, have conservative field placings and field sloppily and expect to play decent cricket in Australia," he added.

The 73-year-old was extremely critical of captain Misbah, saying, "A lot of their struggles were because they had no leadership. There was no inspiration from Misbah, so things have got to change in Pakistan."

When asked to comment on Misbah's future as the skipper, Chappel said, "If I had anything to do with the selection then that will be it for Misbah as the captain, but in Pakistan they do some very strange things, so I wouldn't bet on it."

Pakistan's below par showing means that Chappell feels Australia shouldn't feel too confident about themselves as they have yet to be truly tested — something that will change on their upcoming tour of India.

"Australia have made some improvements, but whether their performances were flattered by the way Pakistan played...we will find that out in India as that will be the big test," concluded Chappell.
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Link: https://tribune.com.pk/story/1288343/ian-chappell-tells-pakistan-improve-cricket-stay-home​
 
Hitman said:
Naah, I was speaking of Pakistan. Australia is unmatchable anyways. Anyone with a brain knows that. No team comes even remotely close to the Aussies. And yet we have won our last 2 Test series there. The most humiliating thing a team can go through is losing a Test series at home, let alone 2 in a row.

The most comical thing is when a team loses each and every single Test match it plays in Australia since 1998 till date. So much that Ian Chappell had to say that Australia should stop inviting Pakistan.​
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I don't care or give a kahoot about pakistan. But it is embrassing that India has the record of losing by the biggest margin to a minnow in an icc event.

As for pakistan vs Australia, pakistan and Australia aren't comparable at all. Australia has owned them since forever really. Infact all tournament wins for pakistan have to rely on the luck factor of not meeting Australia in a qf, SF or final otherwise it's game over.

2007 was the one exception because that was the only time Australia could not adjust to the t20 format as it was new so even teams like Zimbabwe were beating them for a short while.
 
I love Australian team and their "no excuse" attitude with few exceptions here and there. But you sound more like Pakistan fan posing as Australian fan rather than true Aussie fan who don't indulge in silly arguments
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I love Australian team and their "no excuse" attitude with few exceptions here and there. But you sound more like Pakistan fan posing as Australian fan rather than true Aussie fan who don't indulge in silly arguments
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Exactly . I hace discussed with real australia fan on other place they are really nice and respect indian cricketers .
 
jnaveen1980 said:
That is an excuse for "Hey i suck let me give an excuse". I don't think a true Austrlian would give excuses for their losses.
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Then you don't know true aussies 🤣🤣🤣. News flash, but Australians are genuinely very mean.

It's just in recent times they've marketed themselves as nice to the public, have cooled it down on the racism and have developed a 2 faced nature where they can act openly kind (This doesn't apply to the entire population obviously but it is the general norm)

Even the likes of Ricky and Warner came back as saints deapite being mean at one point. Heck waugh's team hated each other. 2011 had pointing crying for obvious reasons.

It's just as time has gone on Australia has mimicked their English brothers and have become friendly but even so, the government recently announced a shortage of visas of overseas workers and students and outright told Indian or Chinese or any national who doesn't hold a pr to get lost from their country.

They aren't nice or open as they market themselves to be.
 
mominsaigol said:
I don't care or give a kahoot about pakistan. But it is embrassing that India has the record of losing by the biggest margin to a minnow in an icc event.
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The same India was pretty much mediocre when it defeated Pakistan black and blue in the final of the 1985 B&H World Championship of cricket. A Pakistani team that consisted of Imran and Miandad. And to rub salt to the wound, a mediocre cricketer like Ravi Shastri won the MOS.​
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I love Australian team and their "no excuse" attitude with few exceptions here and there. But you sound more like Pakistan fan posing as Australian fan rather than true Aussie fan who don't indulge in silly arguments
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An Aussie never care about odi or t20s. It's all about test matches for them . Even in Aus, You can see their attendance in test matches but not in other formats
 
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