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New Zealand (259 & 255) beat India (156 & 245) convincingly in the 2nd Test by 113 runs to seal a 3-Test series victory (2-0) with one match remaining

Devadwal said:
Best things happened for them just like babar azam didn't played last two test against England and they won both of them.
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He may not have a good record in India but he is still their biggest batsman. And I'm pretty sure he would have done better than Will Young.
 
Congrats to kiwis. Dint ever think we would lose to these guys of all people.

Especially after they got hammered in SL.

As I said just about 3 years ago, all washed up has beens.

I dont care, I need to see rohit kohli go. Ash is ageing. But he deserves a send off. So stay.

And ofcourse jadeja also has declined but again he has been an ATG. So deserves to get a send off.

And then sarfraz. No matter how good you play, with that kind of physique, sorry, you shouldn't be part of the team

And if pant was injured why did he play? Jurel should have played. So stupid. Jurel is a good batsman too.
 
kron said:
Congrats to kiwis. Dint ever think we would lose to these guys of all people.

Especially after they got hammered in SL.

As I said just about 3 years ago, all washed up has beens.

I dont care, I need to see rohit kohli go. Ash is ageing. But he deserves a send off. So stay.

And ofcourse jadeja also has declined but again he has been an ATG. So deserves to get a send off.

And then sarfraz. No matter how good you play, with that kind of physique, sorry, you shouldn't be part of the team

And if pant was injured why did he play? Jurel should have played. So stupid. Jurel is a good batsman too.
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Does fitness only apply to Sarfraz but didn't Rohit?..
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Latham captained very well in KW's absence even in the 2023 World Cup when they beat England with a depleted side.

He's a very good captain no doubt about it
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Yeah I reckon he should be named ODI captain too. T20s you can go with Glenn Philips.
 
New Zealand couldn't even able to beat Pakistan and they have destroyed the arrogant india. LOL
Can't get better than that.
 
Virat and rohit are playing in test team without performing from long time.
i think gambhir is trying to workout a strategy which is beyond Indian players skillset especially on challenging wickets.
 
I think complaining about Virat Rohit etc. does not bring justice to NZ's achievement.
They have achieved the most difficult task in test history of winning a series in India, this is no joke and should be lauded.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
He may not have a good record in India but he is still their biggest batsman. And I'm pretty sure he would have done better than Will Young.
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Sometime star batsman are let the team down because all the Focus only towards them .

This NZ team played extraordinary cricket under tom Latham so they deserve all the credited.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Congratulations to Kiwis on a great series victory.

They've ended the greatest home streak in Test history . Quite something. Latham has done something KW, Fleming , Hadlee? Crowe? etc. have never done
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India have done something that no country has ever done. Persisting with a failure like Kohli for 5 years
 
what a win by new zealand well done kiwis indeed the kiwis are Indias nightmare team. Victory for New Zealand but more importantly victory for cricket 😀
 
It would be even great now if New Zealand can whitewash these jobbers.
3-0 incoming for greatest home team. LOLhahah
 
Ahmed216 said:
India have done something that no country has ever done. Persisting with a failure like Kohli for 5 years
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India's selections are not purely based on merit like ,say, Australia .

Kohli and Jadeja should not have played the World T20 either but it gets glossed over because we won in spite of them
 
I wonder what's going on in Kohli's mind. Two weeks until 36 and looking completely lost out there.

Thinking back to Ponting's end, or Dravid's end, both of their wheels came off pretty sharply. Age catches up to you in this sport before you know it.

I don't *think* he's going to retire just now, but the concentration, confidence, and performance is just not there.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Santner's 13-fer, undoubtedly one of the most consequential performances by a visiting spinner in Asia.
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NZ executed more successfully what ENG tried to do when they identified the need for high release point spinners in India by selecting Bashir and Hartley despite their mediocre domestic stats.

Although Santner's overall Test record is nothing to write home about, he's tall at 6ft 2 and in white-ball cricket, just when I've seen him, comes across as an intelligent bowler.

And it's not often a visiting spinner to India can say they outbowled Ashwin and Jadeja. In this game apparently he and the other Kiwi spinners bowled slightly slower than India's.

Meanwhile reports emerge that Jay Shah has placed an order on Aliexpress for two industrial fans, a patio heater and a rake...
 
More then Sajid and Nouman, Satner exposed how big of a fraud ashwin and jadeja truly are.

A spinner who barely plays test outshining 2 supposed atg's who avg 42 and 49 overseas and are run machines in SENA conditions.
 
Markhor said:
NZ executed more successfully what ENG tried to do when they identified the need for high release point spinners in India by selecting Bashir and Hartley despite their mediocre domestic stats.

Although Santner's overall Test record is nothing to write home about, he's tall at 6ft 2 and in white-ball cricket, just when I've seen him, comes across as an intelligent bowler.

And it's not often a visiting spinner to India can say they outbowled Ashwin and Jadeja. In this game apparently he and the other Kiwi spinners bowled slightly slower than India's.

Meanwhile reports emerge that Jay Shah has placed an order on Aliexpress for two industrial fans, a patio heater and a rake...
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Santner is alway perfom well against india .

2016 World T20 ( 4 over 16 runs 4 wickets)

2019 World cup ( 10 over 34 runs 2 wickets)
 
Massive humiliation and defeat inside 3 days. Throughly well played and deserved by New Zealand.

Congratulations New Zealand.


India’s 11 years long test record at home had to end at some point. Very well done on that incredible 11-year-run, though.
 
Rajdeep said:
Are you supporting NZ?
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I support good cricket. Am a fair cricket loving fan. Yes I do banter sometimes here and there, but blind-trolling ‘all the time’ is ignorance, classless and immature. which some people do here constantly. Am sure you know well.
 
What a win this is for kiwis... No one thought that kiwis will dominate India at home.
 
India suffer first home Test series defeat in over a decade

India went down in the second Test against New Zealand, losing their first Test series at home since 2012.

After an eight-wicket loss in the first Test in Bengaluru, India slipped further with a massive 113-run defeat in Pune, succumbing to their first-ever loss at home since November 2012, when they lost to England 2-1.

This is also New Zealand's first Test series win in India.

The win means New Zealand have climbed to No.4 on the ICC World Test Championship 2025 table. India retain the top spot, but a drop in their points percentage means there is not a lot to separate them from Australia, who are at No.2 on the standings.

Mitchell Santner was the architect of New Zealand's win, accounting for 13 wickets in the match as India struggled to bat on a spin-friendly track.

Batting first, New Zealand put up 259, led by Devon Conway's 76 and Rachin Ravindra's 65. It was a good start for India as Washington Sundar, brought into the XI for the Test, picked up 7/59, backed up by Ravichandran Ashwin's 3/64.

However, India could not capitalise on their bowling momentum and had a disappointing turn with the bat, getting bowled out for just 156. Santner was New Zealand's response to Sundar as the left-arm spinner claimed 7/53.

The Black Caps followed their 259 with a 255 in their second innings, adding to an already impressive 103-run lead. This time, captain Tom Latham led from the front with a calculated 86 and useful contributions from Tom Blundell (41) and Glenn Phillips (48) helped the visitors push their lead past 350.

With over two and a half days of play still left, it was not going to be an easy chase for India on a pitch increasingly aiding spin.

New Zealand took advantage of the mounting pressure. Rohit Sharma was dismissed early when an inside edge lobbed off to short leg. Yashasvi Jaiswal decided to counter-attack and entertained with a quick-fire knock.

Shubman Gill supported from the other end, forming a half-century stand for the second wicket but Santner's spin proved to be too much of a challenge for the Indian batters.

India were eventually bowled out for 245, losing the Test by 113 runs.

Santner was the Player of the Match for his figures of 13/157.

The third and final Test of the series will be played in Mumbai from 1 to 5 November and will offer India a chance to better their World Test Championship points before heading to Australia for the all-important five-match Test series.

India's loss has also levelled the playing field with multiple teams like Sri Lanka, South Africa and New Zealand (besides Australia) now having a good chance of making it to the WTC25 Final next year.

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Rajdeep said:
You lost a test match in 2 days due to Rohit Sharma's blitz couple of weeks ago.

Remember? :shakib
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Yes, my Mammaland and country of origin Bangladesh lost to India in 2days, the whole cricketing-world knows. Bravo. You beat a test minnow in 2days, at home.

But here, you lost at home to NZ in 3 days, a SENA nation who couldnt beat BD in the test series last two series home and away.
 
Markhor said:
NZ executed more successfully what ENG tried to do when they identified the need for high release point spinners in India by selecting Bashir and Hartley despite their mediocre domestic stats.

Although Santner's overall Test record is nothing to write home about, he's tall at 6ft 2 and in white-ball cricket, just when I've seen him, comes across as an intelligent bowler.

And it's not often a visiting spinner to India can say they outbowled Ashwin and Jadeja. In this game apparently he and the other Kiwi spinners bowled slightly slower than India's.

Meanwhile reports emerge that Jay Shah has placed an order on Aliexpress for two industrial fans, a patio heater and a rake...
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Yes that is the best way to describe him: intelligent. He's not even the biggest turner of the ball. But has that accuracy and consistency that is necessary to be successful in India. His height only accentuates that aspect. He had a brilliant World Cup in India as well last year so maybe we shouldn't be that surprised.
 
Congrats to NZ, well played and much deserved series win...

This is probably NZ greatest test series win till date, some achievement.

I feel this NZ side can surprise Australia in Aus...

Hopefully this is the end of Kohli for good...
 
Romali_rotti said:
Congrats to NZ, well played and much deserved series win...

This is probably NZ greatest test series win till date, some achievement.

I feel this NZ side can surprise Australia in Aus...

Hopefully this is the end of Kohli for good...
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LOL. This NZ side got whitewashed in SL (0-2) and drew in Bangladesh (1-1).

Aussies generally maul NZ in Australia. Aussies also beat NZ in NZ.
 
sweep_shot said:
LOL. This NZ side got whitewashed in SL (0-2) and drew in Bangladesh (1-1).

Aussies generally maul NZ in Australia. Aussies also beat NZ in NZ.
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Well sweep shot bro nothing stays the same forever... I feel this NZ side can best Aus in Aus if they really put the effort in.

:apology
 
Romali_rotti said:
Congrats to NZ, well played and much deserved series win...

This is probably NZ greatest test series win till date, some achievement.

I feel this NZ side can surprise Australia in Aus...

Hopefully this is the end of Kohli for good...
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Wouldn't bet on that one. Agarkar and co are backing experience over youngsters. They are even bringing back that dinosaur Pujara for Australia, apparently.
 
On a wicket like this, knowing the pitch and conditions, India went with 2 pacers.
Bumrah is a must and it is understandable.

Akashdeep is useless on this pitch. He bowled a grand total of 6 overs in this test for 0 wickets and scored 7 runs in total.😂
Never understood why India goes with 2 pacers on spin friendly tracks. Mind you, both pacers cannot bat either.

Axar Patel should’ve played in his place. He is the best batsman in these pitches.
 
A good kick up the backside for Ind . Will be good now to see how they respond. Good teams always respond when they lose. Makes the next test and the Aus way more exciting now. Ind field placements were very defensive, that is 1 area they need to correct. Kohli & Rohit will be there for the Aus series, no point harping on that. As long as KLRahul is not picked, that is still OK. Backing Rohit to come off in Aus as his attacking strokeplay is well suited there - no seamy tracks and true bounce. Biggest threat is Lyon. Pant and Sarfraz have to counter it. Hope Sarfaraz gets all 5 tests to play. But , got to win the next NZ test though.
 
sweep_shot said:
LOL. This NZ side got whitewashed in SL (0-2) and drew in Bangladesh (1-1).

Aussies generally maul NZ in Australia. Aussies also beat NZ in NZ.
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And your point ?? You and your silly analogies. Here you go

Ind generally maul all teams in Ind. Ind also beat Aus in Aus
 
10x worse than the Bangla loss, this was like their superstars with all that ego pumping and resource getting bent by New Zealand C, what a humiliation for their vile fans
 
It's starting to slip away from India's big players.

They're in that awkward phase where their age has slowly caught up to them, but they will be selected due to their past success. Any performances from now on will be sporadic as they roll back the clock here and there.

I think Rohit and Kohli are in that zone. Jadeja and Ashwin are starting to show some cracks in their armor too.

It happens to all good teams and the upcoming series might be the final nail in the coffin for a few of them.
 
Well played NZ.. Congratulations to them, India deserve this humiliation for worshipping the likes of Kohli and Sharma.
 
A proper hammering this. Thinking too far ahead at the BGT, completly playing down this NZ side, we've deserved this.

Sports is such a great leveller. Fans here mocking BD for their effort, and NZ comes over and rips us a new one.
 
During the post-match press conference, Rohit Sharma:

"We have lost only 2 games. We have won so many matches in India, where batters have played well in bad pitches, why are we not focusing on that? This is the first time that we have collapsed. 12 saal me ek baar to allowed hai yaar. If we were collapsing since 12 years, we would have not won anything. Expectations are high in India that we have to win every thing. We have made that habit. It is not your fault, it is us who have held ourselves to the best standards."

“It has happened in the last two Test matches, we’ve won 18 consecutive series at home which means we’ve done a lot of things right. We’ve performed exceptionally well over the past number of years. Hence, I won’t go too deep into it and that we’ve messed up a lot. I think in 2-3 innings we underperformed with the bat, but it happens when you’re performing consistently for so long, you come to a loss.”
 
FearlessRoar said:
During the post-match press conference, Rohit Sharma:

"We have lost only 2 games. We have won so many matches in India, where batters have played well in bad pitches, why are we not focusing on that? This is the first time that we have collapsed. 12 saal me ek baar to allowed hai yaar. If we were collapsing since 12 years, we would have not won anything. Expectations are high in India that we have to win every thing. We have made that habit. It is not your fault, it is us who have held ourselves to the best standards."

“It has happened in the last two Test matches, we’ve won 18 consecutive series at home which means we’ve done a lot of things right. We’ve performed exceptionally well over the past number of years. Hence, I won’t go too deep into it and that we’ve messed up a lot. I think in 2-3 innings we underperformed with the bat, but it happens when you’re performing consistently for so long, you come to a loss.”
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Don't know why he's bringing up 12 years like he's captained for all of them. The 12 year record is for stats guys, fans and pundits to gawk at, focus in your own captaincy deficiencies instead of making lame excuses.
 
Speaking to local broadcast media, Anil Kumble highlighted the significance of each Test match for India's journey to the World Test Championship (WTC) final:

"I think that's the beauty of the WTC. Although the series is over for India, each Test match remains crucial. They've made things harder for themselves. At the start of the series, we talked about needing five wins to comfortably reach the championship final. But now, with four wins required from the next six matches, it's even tougher, especially with one game against this confident New Zealand side at Wankhede and five more in Australia."

"India have done exceptionally well in their last two series in Australia, but qualifying now is even more challenging. They need to get their act together. The batting has been disappointing, and though the bowling will continue to face challenges, India are at the top because their bowlers have consistently taken those 20 wickets. The batting needs to step up and deliver runs."
 
FearlessRoar said:
During the post-match press conference, Rohit Sharma:

"We have lost only 2 games. We have won so many matches in India, where batters have played well in bad pitches, why are we not focusing on that? This is the first time that we have collapsed. 12 saal me ek baar to allowed hai yaar. If we were collapsing since 12 years, we would have not won anything. Expectations are high in India that we have to win every thing. We have made that habit. It is not your fault, it is us who have held ourselves to the best standards."

“It has happened in the last two Test matches, we’ve won 18 consecutive series at home which means we’ve done a lot of things right. We’ve performed exceptionally well over the past number of years. Hence, I won’t go too deep into it and that we’ve messed up a lot. I think in 2-3 innings we underperformed with the bat, but it happens when you’re performing consistently for so long, you come to a loss.”
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Someone needs to tell him that in last few years batters have collapsed even worst. The lower order and Pant had saved them from embarrassment but it was just too long before this had to be translated in result too.
 
Sooner or later the full transition has to begin. Let's see what happens when Rohit, Kohli, Ashwin and Jadeja retire or a dropped.
 
Ab Fan said:
Someone needs to tell him that in last few years batters have collapsed even worst. The lower order and Pant had saved them from embarrassment but it was just too long before this had to be translated in result too.
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Agreed, India's batting is really worthless. I haven't seen a worse line up than this in a long time. Rohit and Virat have passed their sell date and the overhyped Gill and clueless KL Rahul won't score when it matters. So it is all on Pant and some inexperienced kids like Sarfaraz and Jaiswal to get India out of jail in crunch situations. The BCCI has messed up by not grooming kids with potential like Ishan Kishan and others. They even allowed the likes of Vihari and Nair to go waste. I can see an epic thrashing waiting for them in Australia.
 
gani999 said:
The BCCI has messed up by not grooming kids with potential like Ishan Kishan and others.
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Kohli did the same in WC'19 when apart from top-3, we didn't have anyone else to fall back on in case things went south which they surely did in WC'19 SF against Kiwis!

Kohli has lot to answer for our batting getting poorer and poorer with each passing year and no amount of glossing over it due to his stellar record 4 years back will wish it away.
 
gani999 said:
Wouldn't bet on that one. Agarkar and co are backing experience over youngsters. They are even bringing back that dinosaur Pujara for Australia, apparently.
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What's the issue with Pujara? He has been performing. He was instrumental for India in Australia Test win. It's Test Cricket. Why not let your best players play? And age is just a number as they say
 
Harbhajan Singh while speaking to local media outlet:

"It was a tailor-made condition for spinners where ball was supposed to turn from first hour."

"Look at the trend during last decades. We are playing mostly on turners through the last decade with the hope that we will win the toss, score 300 and control the game."

"But we don't know if we are at the receiving end, if we have the batting to wriggle out on turners. Our batters have lost a lot of confidence playing on these tracks. The biggest example is Ajinkya Rahane, a fine player. His career suffered because of these kind of surfaces."

"We always get into whataboutery that they (SENA countries) also prepare pitches as per their needs but those aren't pitches where you can't even bat. Those pitches go through natural wear and tear over time."

"Here if you don't know which one will turn and which one will go straight, you are forever fighting doubts whether to attack or defend. Even Virat Kohli has fared well abroad in last few years where the ball comes onto the bat."

"Now you have three bad home Tests on these tracks but selectors know that you are a good player and take you on overseas tour, but by then, not having runs under your belt has started playing havoc with your mindset."

"You also fail in a couple of overseas Tests, and suddenly, you are out of the team. Is that a good thing?"

"If you prepare rank turners, you don't play spinners who can turn the ball on flattest of decks. All you need is bowlers who are accurate. Washy (Washington Sundar) and Axar (Patel) can do the job, and you won't need Ravichandran Ashwin and Ravindra Jadeja's quality."

"You had Joe Root getting five wickets here some years back. Bring Varun Chakravarthy, who is a white-ball specialist. He will run through sides."
 
Ishan Kishan? The guy is toxic 1000, his PR is working extra time to showcase he is available.

We have enough Ranji performers to replace Kohli Rohit Rahul
 
RidiculousMan said:
What's the issue with Pujara? He has been performing. He was instrumental for India in Australia Test win. It's Test Cricket. Why not let your best players play? And age is just a number as they say
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Instrumental for India in Australia test win? On which planet?
Pujaras scores when Australia last toured India in 2023 were 7, 0, 31*, 1, 59, 42.
Then in the WTC final 2023, he scored 14 and 27.
Hardly anything to write home about, is there?
The last time India toured Australia in 2020, his scores were 43, 0, 17, 3, 50, 77, 25 and 56.

Best player? That's a good one for rewriting definitions.

Yes he did score a 236 against Chattisgarh last month. But Chattisgarh ain't Australia. His last big scores were 90 and 120 against Bangladesh. They ain't Australia either.
 
gani999 said:
Instrumental for India in Australia test win? On which planet?
Pujaras scores when Australia last toured India in 2023 were 7, 0, 31*, 1, 59, 42.
Then in the WTC final 2023, he scored 14 and 27.
Hardly anything to write home about, is there?
The last time India toured Australia in 2020, his scores were 43, 0, 17, 3, 50, 77, 25 and 56.

Best player? That's a good one for rewriting definitions.

Yes he did score a 236 against Chattisgarh last month. But Chattisgarh ain't Australia. His last big scores were 90 and 120 against Bangladesh. They ain't Australia either.
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He has nearly 1000 runs in Australia with an average of nearly 50. That's phenomenal.

Moreover his performances in 2018 tour were much better in terms of run scoring. But that hasn't died down as he has shown to score runs still. Doing it in county as well as in domestic now. I understand the domestic setup is different than Test Cricket but he has proven track record and such good average in Australian conditions.

Among all the fancy stroke makers. India can use a guy with his experience to play the pressure absorbing role. Specially when likes of Rohit and Kohli are off color.
 
Seeing a second consecutive loss at home, former Pakistan cricketer Ahmed Shehzad has opened up on the performance of Indian team, he said:

“New Zealand have come to India and thrashed them as if they had the right to do so, beating them like kids and walking away. They’ve pulled a prank on India. People are now saying, ‘Tigers on paper, crumbled at home,’"

“When India were bowled out for 46 runs (in the first Test), Rohit Sharma had said, ‘Everyone has a bad day.’ And we accept that. Absolutely fair. But in this Test match too, the way you’ve played cricket, it seems like you’ve become complacent. Rohit Sharma says that they don’t believe in unnecessary talk, but that spirit was missing in the last two Tests. These two matches have been played in a way that makes it seem like schoolboys were playing,"
 
Former cricketer, Basit Ali reckons that after defeating Bangladesh inside 1.5 days in Kanpur, the Indian team became overconfident and took the Kiwis lightly:

"I had said chasing 350-plus will be too difficult. There had to be ton from one of the top three batters. India's batting got exposed. In the first match, Kiwi pacers took 17 wickets. In the second Test, spinners took 19 wickets. India players were neither able to play pacers well nor spinners. On a track that had pace and bounce (Bengaluru), India lost and on a spinning track, India lost as well,"

"The match India won against Bangladesh in two days and New Zealand's 2-0 defeat in Sri Lanka, the team might have thought they would beat the Kiwis easily. This means, Indian management and Indian players were overconfident,"
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Former cricketer, Basit Ali reckons that after defeating Bangladesh inside 1.5 days in Kanpur, the Indian team became overconfident and took the Kiwis lightly:

"I had said chasing 350-plus will be too difficult. There had to be ton from one of the top three batters. India's batting got exposed. In the first match, Kiwi pacers took 17 wickets. In the second Test, spinners took 19 wickets. India players were neither able to play pacers well nor spinners. On a track that had pace and bounce (Bengaluru), India lost and on a spinning track, India lost as well,"

"The match India won against Bangladesh in two days and New Zealand's 2-0 defeat in Sri Lanka, the team might have thought they would beat the Kiwis easily. This means, Indian management and Indian players were overconfident,"
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Basit is probably right.

Many didn't give NZ any chance after they got whitewashed in SL.
 
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