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Now this is getting ridiculous. Way too much luck going australias way,
 
under 450 and i'll still be ok with it. But S.A are no chace to win the game now unless something amazing happens and I don't see lighting striking three times.

the frustrating thing is that without these lucky last order stands australia dfon't even deserve to even have a sniff at anything in this series.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Tail is embarrassing South African bowling.
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If by embaressing you mean nicking everything past gullies and slips and just being incredibly lucky on a totally flat pitch...then yes, you're right.
 
saffer said:
If by embaressing you mean nicking everything past gullies and slips and just being incredibly lucky on a totally flat pitch...then yes, you're right.
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Isn't exactly what Steyn was doing last match :P. A single digit average batsman scoring 76 runs
 
IronMan2009 said:
Isn't exactly what Steyn was doing last match :P. A single digit average batsman scoring 76 runs
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Yup.

Aussies have done it every single innings out of 5 now though. Either the tail have been lucky or s.a have bowled bad. whatever the point is the trend is out of the ordinary and you'd think their bottom order was due a failure.
 
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Well that's that. Get the last one quick and my 450 is still there.
 
Smith lucky to still be there, but he has been lucky all series.
 
Mckenzie not looking too comfortable at the crease against Bollinger.
 
Smith seems to have broken his finger. Huge blow for S.A's chances of winning the game.
 
Mark Nicholas compares Amla to :moyo after that cover drive....

daikha kaha tha...Amla hamara hai... :D
 
saffer said:
Smith seems to have broken his finger. Huge blow for S.A's chances of winning the game.
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This wicket is prepared for a draw. I don't think S.A will win this one
 
Danger for S.A. if Smithy doesnt come back. McKenzie is rubbish, should be tossed on the scrap heap immediately.
 
Jamal said:
Danger for S.A. if Smithy doesnt come back. McKenzie is rubbish, should be tossed on the scrap heap immediately.
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Hamara Amla abhi hai....dont worry
 
Who is the best opener South Africa has to replace McKenzie in their next test series against Australia?
 
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Umair Paracha! said:
Who is the best opener South Africa has to replace McKenzie in their next test series against Australia?
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Mckenzie wont be dropped...Mckenzie at home will be more comfortable
 
Umair Paracha! said:
Who is the best opener South Africa has to replace McKenzie in their next test series against Australia?
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I think that Amla will open and Duminy will bat at 3
 
I was just going over the scorecard again and found that Hussey now averages 58.45. I dont think so that he will ever be able to go above mark of 60. Do you guys think so
 
Jamal said:
Hope not, Amla is a genuine 3.
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yeaa you are right he shouldnt be moved in tests. But in odis he seems good to be an opener. They might give Gibbs another chance.
 
Informer said:
I think that Amla will open and Duminy will bat at 3
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van Jaarsveld should replace McKenzie, but it is not the time to experiment.

You are forgetting that Prince has to get back in the side as well. I would drop McKenzie and shift everyone up one place to bring Prince back in. Would be interesting to see if Amla could open. Another alternative is to have AB open.
 
Kallis is HARPOONING this weak Aussie attack. Good counter attacking final stanza of the day from South Africa. I wonder why Kallis can't play like this all the time, he'd be beastly.
 
JustAnotherFan said:
van Jaarsveld should replace McKenzie, but it is not the time to experiment.

You are forgetting that Prince has to get back in the side as well. I would drop McKenzie and shift everyone up one place to bring Prince back in. Would be interesting to see if Amla could open. Another alternative is to have AB open.
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My new combination

Smith and Amla to open
Duminy bats at 3 followed by Kallis at 4
AB becomes the wicket keeper and bats at 5
Prince bats at 6
Introduce van Jaarsveld to test cricket and let him start at 7
M Morkel, DW Steyn, PL Harris, M Ntini (8 to 11)
 
minhasuz said:
I was just going over the scorecard again and found that Hussey now averages 58.45. I dont think so that he will ever be able to go above mark of 60. Do you guys think so
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Well, another interesting one is that Haydunce's average will slip under the magical 50 if he plays in the Ashes and carries on playing like he has so far this season.
 
Jamal said:
Kallis is HARPOONING this weak Aussie attack. Good counter attacking final stanza of the day from South Africa. I wonder why Kallis can't play like this all the time, he'd be beastly.
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He has realised he is nearing 10,000 test runs in his career so wants to get them ASAP.
 
S.A effectively 125 for 2 (with smith injured and out the game) 320 behind and only 9 second innings wickets to bat with. Australia miles on top unless one feels kallis and/or amla can notch up a big score tomorrow while the wicket is still good and get some good support from the middle order.
 
I missed most of this but seems like a good day's cricket.

Aussie tail wagged bigtime, MJ and Clarke batting well as they have all series.

But Saffers batting well, will be a blow if Smith can't come back - did a bowler hit him and if so whom?

Siddle has nice figures, good to see. The concern with him is not his first spells though it is that he slows down as the game goes on. Not fit enough yet.

Bollinger has been expensive, anyone watching want to give a view on him? Any swing? What speeds?

McDonald was economical it seems, any views on him as well?

Pretty evenly poised but Aus have the runs on the board. We shall see if we can get them all out for less than 600. :)
 
My S.A team

Smith
Gibbs (worth one more try) / Van Jaarsveld
Amla
Kallis
Dumminy
Prince
De villiers (keeper)
Morkel
Harris
Steyn
Ntini
 
minhasuz said:
I was just going over the scorecard again and found that Hussey now averages 58.45. I dont think so that he will ever be able to go above mark of 60. Do you guys think so
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Depends if he keeps up the bad form. If he gets back in form it is possible because he hasn't played very many games so a few good knocks will push it back up.

But long term I think he is an average 47-53 Test batsman. He probably won't play for long enough for the average to really reflect that.
 
Random Aussie said:
I missed most of this but seems like a good day's cricket.

Aussie tail wagged bigtime, MJ and Clarke batting well as they have all series.

But Saffers batting well, will be a blow if Smith can't come back - did a bowler hit him and if so whom?

Siddle has nice figures, good to see. The concern with him is not his first spells though it is that he slows down as the game goes on. Not fit enough yet.

Bollinger has been expensive, anyone watching want to give a view on him? Any swing? What speeds?

McDonald was economical it seems, any views on him as well?

Pretty evenly poised but Aus have the runs on the board. We shall see if we can get them all out for less than 600. :)
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Smith seems to have broken his hand (johnson the bowler) and is in plaster. The pitch was flat all day and Steyn has a bruised heel and only bowled a few overs. Other than the Smith blow I think this would be heading to a tame draw. With that being the case now obviously Aussie are in a very dominant position.
 
saffer said:
Smith seems to have broken his hand (johnson the bowler) and is in plaster. The pitch was flat all day and Steyn has a bruised heel and only bowled a few overs. Other than the Smith blow I think this would be heading to a tame draw. With that being the case now obviously Aussie are in a very dominant position.
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Good work MJ! :D

Most likely a draw because we do not have a spinner who can get the wickets when the pitch starts to misbehave. Unless Clarke or Katich get lucky.
 
With the series in the bag, i think Smith should have rested from this game. Given that he has fractured his arm now, he could even miss the South African series at home now.
 
Savak said:
With the series in the bag, i think Smith should have rested from this game. Given that he has fractured his arm now, he could even miss the South African series at home now.
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What horrible luck for them to have an injury. :batman:

We are missing an opening batsman, our 2 most experienced quicks and our 2 best all rounders. Plus our only wrist spinner.
 
Savak said:
With the series in the bag, i think Smith should have rested from this game. Given that he has fractured his arm now, he could even miss the South African series at home now.
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Yes I agree. Also they could have played Van Jaarsveldt and see how he copes at test level. They could also have played Gibbs to give him some batting practice as he would most likely be playing in the ODI's
 
Random Aussie said:
What horrible luck for them to have an injury. :batman:

We are missing an opening batsman, our 2 most experienced quicks and our 2 best all rounders. Plus our only wrist spinner.
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I thought you were happy with Lee out of the team. :D
 
The Aussie depth bowling is really lacking. We could be bowling 5 injuries in and only then need to bring in a quality bowler like charl langevelt.
 
How did Bollinger bowl? His figures look unimpressive, but did he find swing? Does he slant the ball across the right handers or does he also have the ability to bring it back in? How quick does he bowl?

What about MacDonald?
 
Easa said:
How did Bollinger bowl? His figures look unimpressive, but did he find swing? Does he slant the ball across the right handers or does he also have the ability to bring it back in? How quick does he bowl?

What about MacDonald?
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Don't know about Bollinger, I missed most of the day's play.

McDonald though was 125kph and dead straight, according to reports.
 
Ronald "Ranga" Mcdonald was a pretty ordinary bowler. Reminds me of Collingwood. Bollinger seemed a tad slow, but he swings it around a lil bit:)
 
Jamal said:
Ronald "Ranga" Mcdonald was a pretty ordinary bowler. Reminds me of Collingwood. Bollinger seemed a tad slow, but he swings it around a lil bit:)
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:O An Aussie bowler swung the ball? This is tremendous news
 
Random Aussie said:
:O An Aussie bowler swung the ball? This is tremendous news
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I'm talking swing at 130-135kmh. He didnt trouble anybody. His action is a bit retarded though.
 
bollinger quickest was 143k, siddle was sharp 148k, johnsons quickest 151k, but whats worrying for australian cricket is how flat all the wickets r, so far all the test wickets we've seen r flat feather beds, and this pitch i'd fancy my chances, australia need their wickets to have bounce back or else bowlers r going to get discouraged
 
saj786 said:
bollinger quickest was 143k, siddle was sharp 148k, johnsons quickest 151k, but whats worrying for australian cricket is how flat all the wickets r, so far all the test wickets we've seen r flat feather beds, and this pitch i'd fancy my chances, australia need their wickets to have bounce back or else bowlers r going to get discouraged
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To be honest, there wasnt anything wrong with the wickets. They were much better then the wickets in India and Pakistan. Our quick bowlers would be relieved to bowl on such wickets rather than the ones they encounter in the subcontinent.

The South Africans also had the same wickets to bowl on. The South African bowlers were far better than the Australian bowlers in this series coupled with some really ordinary, tentative, defensive Aussie batting. Steyn has proven to be miles above all the Aussie bowlers. Kallis has also fulfilled the stock bowler/aggressive bowler according to the situation perfectly. Harris has been the real surprise, he has picked up key wickets at crucial intervals.

If we look at the SA and Aussie team it is clear which team has better bowling resources and the better bench strength at the moment. At the end of the day it is the quality of players which count most.
 
Savak said:
To be honest, there wasnt anything wrong with the wickets. They were much better then the wickets in India and Pakistan. Our quick bowlers would be relieved to bowl on such wickets rather than the ones they encounter in the subcontinent.

The South Africans also had the same wickets to bowl on. The South African bowlers were far better than the Australian bowlers in this series coupled with some really ordinary, tentative, defensive Aussie batting. Steyn has proven to be miles above all the Aussie bowlers. Kallis has also fulfilled the stock bowler/aggressive bowler according to the situation perfectly. Harris has been the real surprise, he has picked up key wickets at crucial intervals.

If we look at the SA and Aussie team it is clear which team has better bowling resources and the better bench strength at the moment. At the end of the day it is the quality of players which count most.
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like i said before the series the difference in the seamers is steyn he's quality, but the rest have been dissapointing, morkels been ordinary, ntini fora experience bowler has been ok, kallis is experienced so he's done his job, but overall i think the s. african attack is decent compared to the very inexperienced aus attack, back to the wickets, the wickets have been v flat, the diference is s. africa have not tossed their wickets away like australia have, some of the shot selections by the australian batsmen have been irrisponsible even steyn commented that australias all out attacking batting has given him oppurtunaties to take wickets all the time, and going back to this morning australia scored over200 runs for the last 4 wickets which shows a quality player will be running out to bat in these conditions :imran
 
Can we injure Smiffy some more? Maybe a stray beamer or something? You can tell I'm desperate.
 
OZGOD said:
Can we injure Smiffy some more? Maybe a stray beamer or something? You can tell I'm desperate.
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Sorry, Brett Lee is not playing :D
 
OZGOD said:
Can we injure Smiffy some more? Maybe a stray beamer or something? You can tell I'm desperate.
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He'll be out for 6 weeks with a broken finger.

How long do you want him out for?
 
Oxy said:
He'll be out for 6 weeks with a broken finger.

How long do you want him out for?
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I knew he had issues with his elbow. Why doesnt he get it fixed once and for all by getting an operation and then resting as much as he needs? I dont see any point at all for him to continue playing with the problem, he will only aggravate the injury further. Safety for the player must come first and i admit the South African team looks completely different when Smith is not on the field but still its no excuse for Smith to be torturing himself and risking aggravating his injury.

To Smith's credit he really has grown in stature as a captain since he took over in 2003.
 
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