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Australia v South Africa | 4th ODI | Adelaide | 26/1/09

Hopes doing something useful for about the 3rd time in his 40 matches.

8/215 after 45.4 overs
 
Fish said:
Saffies have only won 66% of their test matches and 0% of their 20/20 mathes.

So after 8 games Saffies have won 4 matches fora 50% win rate.

:))) :)))
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20/20's don't count. So it's 4 out 6...soon to be 5 out of 7. Our total Bunnies !

Besides aussies have won all but 1 od the tosses. That's a massive disatvantage and we're still easily pwning them.
 
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More than the speed he moves it well. There was a sligh tiny bit deviation away from the stump that caused the Hopes dismissal.
 
Random Aussie said:
Yeah that's what India said last summer too. :D
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Who are India, why does their opinion matter , and what do they have to do with high quality cricket ?
 
saffer said:
20/20's don't count. So it's 4 out 6...soon to be 5 out of 7. Our total Bunnies !

Besides aussies have won all but 1 od the tosses. That's a massive disatvantage and we're still easily pwning them.
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Oh look at you Saffer, your team gets absolutely thrashed in the 20/20s and suddenly they dont count.

So I take it then that SA will not be playing in the 20/20 world cup then :))) :)))
 
So powerplay is wasted. It is a lesson that if you have set players at the end of 15 overs it is better take it immediately.
 
Fish said:
Oh look at you Saffer, your team gets absolutely thrashed in the 20/20s and suddenly they dont count.

So I take it then that SA will not be playing in the 20/20 world cup then :))) :)))
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I think 20/20 is stupid. I leave that rubbish to the riff raff. But you're welcome to your opinion. Irt has none of the tension building , and beautiful psychoogical asthetic I find so appealing in the longer forms of the game. I'm not pavlovs dogs...I require more sophisticated forms of entertainment that the radomity of 20/20 sogging and a few skimpy tarts shaking their bums.
 
Total is going to be 20 runs short of defendable. If they score 10 runs form here that will be a tricky total. I won't count Australia out with series on the line.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Total is going to be 20 runs short of defendable. If they score 10 runs form here that will be a tricky total. I won't count Australia out with series on the line.
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No. It'll be easy I think. short of shaun tait or Johnson having a cushing spell.
 
Well 222 is better than it looked a while ago but all the young bowlers are going to have bowl out of their skins to get us anywhere near them.

At least we have no Hauritz.
 
Fish said:
Of course you do, your team got smashed so you have no option but to say that. :))) :)))
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Find a quote on here where I've said anything to the contrary. I barely ever bother to eve watch the games.
 
Marsh and Punter (despite some luck) looked to be in good touch. Both wasted. Marsh is to be blamed less. That was an awesome outfield catch.
 
That was a big wide from Tait. He doesn't look like taking wickets. He is quick. As i said that ball was a good one. Pitching just short of a length and moving away. Similar to Akhtar delivery.
 
Even though the pace says 150 plus.. he is not hitting the bat hard. They play him easily. Infact Flintoff with 142 clicks hit the bat harder than Tait did with 151. These speed guns are misleading.
 
Gibbs is simply toyng with Hilf on the off side. Punter is yet to react to this off side onslaught from Gibbs.
 
Horrible full toss from Mitch wasted bY Amala. Should have been deposited into the stands. Gibbs facing Mitch.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Even though the pace says 150 plus.. he is not hitting the bat hard. They play him easily. Infact Flintoff with 142 clicks hit the bat harder than Tait did with 151. These speed guns are misleading.
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Oh ok so he is not quick then.

What is with the Flintoff worship? He is an average bowler with very average career who looks great while being average.
 
Random Aussie said:
Oh ok so he is not quick then.

What is with the Flintoff worship? He is an average bowler with very average career who looks great while being average.
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Not worshipping. Just observation.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Not worshipping. Just observation.
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To address your point, 150kph at gun batsmen like Amla and Gibbs is not quick enough on it's own to bother them. Tait does not get the extra bounce other bowlers get, it is swing and pace he relies on.

Before the WC he was clocking up to 160kph and regularly bowling 155kph. That extra 5kph makes a big difference.
 
His over-ambitious innings came to an end. But good start though. Bowling was at his mercy. Unnecessarily he charged down the wicket.
 
IronMan2009 said:
His over-ambitious innings came to an end. But good start though. Bowling was at his mercy. Unnecessarily he charged down the wicket.
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Story of Gibbs career really
 
There's definitely something wrong with the speed-guns. Hilfenhaus clocking 144kph - he looks about as quick as Rao!

:91:
 
Gibbs in my opinon is the best batsman to watch when in full flow, too bad he usually throws away his wicket but he is all class.

BTW RA you guys cud really use a Flintoff right now :)
 
Easa said:
There's definitely something wrong with the speed-guns. Hilfenhaus clocking 144kph - he looks about as quick as Rao!

:91:
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Hilfenhaus has decent pace, big strong ex laborer who uses his arm to get pace more than the run up.

Nothing wrong with our speed guns but I suggest there are some issues with yours in Pakistan. :))

Only place that clocks higher speeds than Australia is South Africa.
 
Lahoria said:
Gibbs in my opinon is the best batsman to watch when in full flow, too bad he usually throws away his wicket but he is all class.

BTW RA you guys cud really use a Flintoff right now :)
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We have Watson. Who never plays.

But he does have the potential to average 32 with the bat and ball just like Freddie.
 
Random Aussie said:
Hilfenhaus has decent pace, big strong ex laborer who uses his arm to get pace more than the run up.

Nothing wrong with our speed guns but I suggest there are some issues with yours in Pakistan. :))

Only place that clocks higher speeds than Australia is South Africa.
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It's the pitches.

If he was bowling on the pancakes of Pakistan, he wouldn't clock more than mid-130's. He didn't look threatening at all.
 
Easa said:
It's the pitches.

If he was bowling on the pancakes of Pakistan, he wouldn't clock more than mid-130's. He didn't look threatening at all.
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Speed gun measures out of the hand does it not?
 
If SA happen to clinch the series in this game i beleive that j botha should be given the man of the series award. His bowling has, almost single handedly stopped the aussies in their tracks in at least 3 of the games. On all those occasions aussie looked set to score 300 + and ended up many too short.

Add that to the way he has captained his charges in his 1st serious series and i beleive that he should be a "sure in" for MOS.
 
Keith said:
If SA happen to clinch the series in this game i beleive that j botha should be given the man of the series award. His bowling has, almost single handedly stopped the aussies in their tracks in at least 3 of the games. On all those occasions aussie looked set to score 300 + and ended up many too short.

Add that to the way he has captained his charges in his 1st serious series and i beleive that he should be a "sure in" for MOS.
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Say what? :20:
 
South Africa probably has the most elegant batting line-up in the world. Amla, Gibbs, Kallis, AB and Duminy all are pure class.
 
Random Aussie said:
Say what? :20:
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Check out his figures in the games that sa have won, (I include the current game a little prematurely though!!!)

In all three of those games botha has come on when the aussies were well on top, had settled batters and looked to be setting scores in excess of 300 on all those occassions. On all three of those occassions they ended up well short of the targets they should have reached.
 
Keith said:
Check out his figures in the games that sa have won, (I include the current game a little prematurely though!!!)

In all three of those games botha has come on when the aussies were well on top, had settled batters and looked to be setting scores in excess of 300 on all those occassions. On all three of those occassions they ended up well short of the targets they should have reached.
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Sorry Keithy I was taking issue with the word "bowled" :)

He has chucked very well this series no doubt. And performed under pressure. Kudos.
 
On_the_up said:
how can the Aussies play Murali so well and falter against Botha?
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I imagine a lot more planning goes into Murali than Botha.

Also every time we have played Murali we have had experienced batsmen all psyched up to attack him. We only have 2 experienced batsmen in this side, one of which is in career worst form.
 
Random Aussie said:
Sorry Keithy I was taking issue with the word "bowled" :)

He has chucked very well this series no doubt. And performed under pressure. Kudos.
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We will take em any way we can mate!!! Especially if we clinch the odi series on AUSSIE DAY!!!!

SA, if they win this series, will have had 2 succesful captains on their tour of Down Under!!!

How many teams have won a test series and a ODI series in aussie, on the same tour?

I do not read much into the ODI's much though, not really "pure cricket" in my books!!! I have no need to even mention that other form of street / pyjama cricket!!!
 
Or has it been due to the "mental disintegration" applied to Murali from all quarters
 
Aussies gatting a king size tonking here

195-2

Only 27 reqd of 101 balls.
 
Keith said:
We will take em any way we can mate!!! Especially if we clinch the odi series on AUSSIE DAY!!!!

SA, if they win this series, will have had 2 succesful captains on their tour of Down Under!!!

How many teams have won a test series and a ODI series in aussie, on the same tour?

I do not read much into the ODI's much though, not really "pure cricket" in my books!!! I have no need to even mention that other form of street / pyjama cricket!!!
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Would be again going to back to the WI days of pre 1993 Keith since someone has done it.

Congrats again.
 
On_the_up said:
Or has it been due to the "mental disintegration" applied to Murali from all quarters
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Aww poor Murali, the crowd call no ball when he "bowls". :(

All those other bowlers who come to Australia and do well must be very mentally tough then to still be able to perform despite the "mental disintegration".

Or maybe Murali is just soft and doesn't like it when things get tough.

On the subject of the match, we are getting smashed. :(
 
Random Aussie said:
Aww poor Murali, the crowd call no ball when he "bowls". :(

All those other bowlers who come to Australia and do well must be very mentally tough then to still be able to perform despite the "mental disintegration".

Or maybe Murali is just soft and doesn't like it when things get tough.

On the subject of the match, we are getting smashed. :(
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to be fair, Murali probably gets more than his fair share
 
Amla with a flurry of boundaries - looking in great nick

214-2

Only 9 needed of 14 overs :)
 
On_the_up said:
to be fair, Murali probably gets more than his fair share
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Well if we are being fair the other bowlers bowl. So there is less ammunition than with Murali - all they have to do is call him chucker and he throws a tantrum.
 
As i thought it was not a 220 plus pitch, especially with this bowling attack. 300 was minimum.
These guys are achieving without batting powerplay.
 
Both batsman have cramped up in the 80s!

Scores level.

222-2 :)
 
3 consecutive home ODI series defeats for Australia. 2007 England, 2008 India & 2009 South Africa.

Nobody counts New Zealand, who are helpfully flying over for a beating after this series concludes. :)
 
Hard luck aussies. It's getting boring for me so I hope you boys come back to S.A with your chins up and give us a fight again.

This series has been so polite and friendly...I want to see some niggle in S.A.
 
If its any consolation RA, pick the 11 worst players you can find in Australia and make them play against Pakistan and we will still lose by 200 plus runs or 10 wickets. Thats how bad we are right now.
 
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