Australia vs India| 5th ODI | Hyderabad | 5/11/2009

[Poison]

I think Tendulkar panicked when Jadeja started hitting those boundaries, making it tough for Tendulkar to get the record, 200 etc.

Take that record out of the equation and India would have won comfortably. But disregarding records/stats etc is something Sachin is simply incapable of.

As for the other Indian batters, with the exception of Sehwag, PK, and Bhajji, they all tend to be overawed by the situation. That is, they tend to choke (for want of a better word).

) You were never looking for a better word

 

[cricketpassion]

Lee
Clarke
Bracken
Siddle
Warner

So we can say that India is beaten by Australia B team not even A team

 

[Poison]

So we can say that India is beaten by Australia B team not even A team

Nearly forgot:

Haddin
Paine

 

[Momo]

) You were never looking for a better word

:younis

 

[FM87]

Lee
Clarke
Bracken
Siddle
Warner

Thanks Poison. Almost half of their team - I thought that 2 or 3 players were injured.

 

[Indiafan]

I think Tendulkar panicked when Jadeja started hitting those boundaries, making it tough for Tendulkar to get the record, 200 etc.

Take that record out of the equation and India would have won comfortably. But disregarding records/stats etc is something Sachin is simply incapable of.

As for the other Indian batters, with the exception of Sehwag, PK, and Bhajji, they all tend to be overawed by the situation. That is, they tend to choke (for want of a better word).

Well the fact that he himself was selflessly giving strike to Jadeja and was praising him when he was hitting missed your eyes it seems

 

[Momo]

Well the fact that he himself was selflessly giving strike to Jadeja and was praising him when he was hitting missed your eyes it seems

One has to go through the motions yaar. He could hardly afford to look gloomy when Jadeja hit those boundaries, could he?

But I can't help feeling he was expecting more of a supporting role from Jadeja, whereas Jadeja had other ideas. Hence the panic. Hence the dismissal. Hence the defeat.

 

[Muhammad Waleed]

I think i m too late.The match has already ended lol

 

[Indiafan]

One has to go through the motions yaar. He could hardly afford to look gloomy when Jadeja hit those boundaries, could he?

But I can't help feeling he was expecting more of a supporting role from Jadeja, whereas Jadeja had other ideas. Hence the panic. Hence the dismissal. Hence the defeat.

Not really. The shot he played to get out was the very shot for which he got 4 runs a few overs ago. He gave Jadeja the strike at least 3 times in those power play overs.

p.S. I know you are not being serious. You are going through the motions too

 

[Momo]

Not really. The shot he played to get out was the very shot for which he got 4 runs a few overs ago. He gave Jadeja the strike at least 3 times in those power play overs.

p.S. I know you are not being serious. You are going through the motions too

But I am serious. I sincerely thought that one of the reasons India lost today was because Sachin was playing to win the match and get to 195 and 200, instead of just playing to win.

But at the same time I must clarify that I thought Sachin's innings today was good. Not good enough, but good nonetheless.

 

[AZ]

jut got home from a game of footy, went to the grocer to pick up some water and the guy tells me that India only lost by 3 runs! WOW! Sachin, you are one helluva player man

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

jut got home from a game of footy, went to the grocer to pick up some water and the guy tells me that India only lost by 3 runs! WOW! Sachin, you are one helluva player man

Man, you prefer adding Afridi's name in your signature, but not at the expanse of Slaman Butt, LOLzzzzz. Just kidding.

 

[Indiafan]

But I am serious. I sincerely thought that one of the reasons India lost today was because Sachin was playing to win the match and get to 195 and 200, instead of just playing to win.

But at the same time I must clarify that I thought Sachin's innings today was good. Not good enough, but good nonetheless.

Thanks for your sincere thoughts. I sincerely thought that the reason we lost today was becuase of those damn aliens intefering with the reception

Why wasnt Sachin's innings good enough? Because he was an Indian?

 

[AZ]

Man, you prefer adding Afridi's name in your signature, but not at the expanse of Slaman Butt, LOLzzzzz. Just kidding.

I think I should get rid of Shahid though, will lose my identity that way

 

[PapaBear]

Well the fact that he himself was selflessly giving strike to Jadeja and was praising him when he was hitting missed your eyes it seems

I thought Tendu was selfless and let Jadeja keep the strike, come on guys , give the man his due.

 

[Momo]

Why wasnt Sachin's innings good enough? Because he was an Indian?

It wasn't good enough because it didn't do the job. Did it?

Just like Misbah's knock in the original T20 final wasn't good enough.

 

[Indiafan]

It wasn't good enough because it didn't do the job. Did it?

No, it was good enough to win the game. Just like Gibbs 175 was good enough for his team to chase 434 runs. That the players around Sachin failed does not affect the quality of his innings in any ways

 

[Atif]

Another No Match Winning Innings From Tendulkar

Another No Match Winning Innings From Tendulkar, anyone suprised ? am not... is he really a match winner ?

 

[PapaBear]

Great match but tendu/India choked again as usual.......but jokes aside, what a great innings from little Master.........simply out of this world.....I don't care whether it's C or Z team, when one can play like what Tendu did today, it's just amazing.........
MY STANDING OVATION TO LITTLE MASTER.......

Little Master the title given to Hanif Muhammed, Indians stole it, don't use it for Tendu at least on PP....

 

[Zechariah]

He scores 175 and people still make this thread, how is everything his fault? Really?

I know most of his 100s don't mean that India wins but he was the reason India got close in the first place.

 

[Sufian84]

it was matchwinning. but the rest couldnt follow it uo.

 

[Zechariah]

You cant blame Tendu for not being good enough when wickets are falling around him

 

[Momo]

No, it was good enough to win the game. Just like Gibbs 175 was good enough for his team to chase 434 runs. That the players around Sachin failed does not affect the quality of his innings in any ways

Match winning innings are different from those that don't win a match.

If a player belongs to a team that is known to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (and the man knows this from experience), then a good enough innings would have to take the team to victory instead of leaving it to others.

I think the fact that he wasn't there at the end ensuring India crossed the finish line does affect the finish of his innings. A case of so close yet so far!

 

[Indiafan]

Another No Match Winning Innings From Tendulkar, anyone suprised ? am not... is he really a match winner ?

Yes. He has more ODI match winning 100s than any other player

 

[Atif]

it was matchwinning. but the rest couldnt follow it uo.

but it wasnt match winning..

 

[Indiafan]

Match winning innings are different from those that don't win a match.

If a player belongs to a team that is known to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (and the man knows this from experience), then a good enough innings would have to take the team to victory instead of leaving it to others.

I think the fact that he wasn't there at the end ensuring India crossed the finish line does affect the finish of his innings. A case of so close yet so far!

Openers NEVER ever stay till the end and are not supposed to in ODIs. I think you have seen enough ODIs to know that it just is not possible most of the times when it only takes one ball to get you out.

Also, you cannot have different ways of judging players based on the teams they have

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Regardless of anything, I'd really like him to severely cut down on ODI's and concentrate on Test cricket. I won't want him to completely retire from ODI cricket since I'd like him to play the 2011 World CUp, but untill then he needs to look after the number of ODI matches that he plays.

 

[Momo]

but it wasnt match winning..

Exactly.

The first requirement for a match winning innings is that it should win the match.

 

[PapaBear]

I disagree with all people who are criticizing Tendulkar, man is a genius and he kept it together for India. Just remove 176 from 347, what do you get?
4 people got into double figures and you blame the guy who makes 176?

 

[Atif]

Yes. He has more ODI match winning 100s than any other player

Yes but if they are not match winnings, those hundreds can just be forgot about....

 

[AZ]

enough already guys...ok so they didn't win the game, but to knock Sachin back for that is seriously pathetic...appreciate the guy, tough luck for India

 

[PapaBear]

Exactly.

The first requirement for a match winning innings is that it should win the match.

But Tendulkar saved them a from humiliation today, could have been a loss by 176 runs, right?

 

[Momo]

Openers NEVER ever stay till the end and are not supposed to in ODIs. I think you have seen enough ODIs to know that it just is not possible most of the times when it only takes one ball to get you out.

Also, you cannot have different ways of judging players based on the teams they have

When you need 20 off 18 and still have four five wickets in hand, you have to finish the job irrespectve of whether you are an opener or not.

Cricket is a team sport and you cant help judging players based on their teams' weaknesses and strengths.

 

[Atif]

But Tendulkar saved them a from humiliation today, could have been a loss by 176 runs, right?

and ? still lost the match... big loss or a small loss, a loss is a loss

 

[Momo]

But Tendulkar saved them a from humiliation today, could have been a loss by 176 runs, right?

The innings saved India from utter humiliation, yes. It was a match winning knock, no.

 

[Atif]

Shuan Marsh's innings was a match winning one, not Tendulkars....

 

[Momo]

enough already guys...ok so they didn't win the game, but to knock Sachin back for that is seriously pathetic...appreciate the guy, tough luck for India

I have said that it was a good innings. Just not good enough, as it didn't finish the job.

Plus, I believe 20 off 18 should be achieved (irresective of what has gone before it) and if a team fails, then that's the fault of the set batsman, who didn't go on to win the match (no matter how well he played before that).

Result: Not good enough to do the job.

 

[PapaBear]

When you need 20 off 18 and still have four five wickets in hand, you have to finish the job irrespectve of whether you are an opener or not.

Cricket is a team sport and you cant help judging players based on their teams' weaknesses and strengths.

I agree

 

[Momo]

Shuan Marsh's innings was a macth winning one, not Tendulkars....

That's correct.

 

[IMMY69]

Momo, the guy was absolutely superb today and has been for 20 years!
What Pakistan would do for a player as good as Tendulkar.

p.s.
you can wind the indian supporters up as much as you like, I just hope it doesnt come back to bite us against nz tomorrow!

 

[kamranO]

I agree

i agree too

 

[Atif]

People will soon forget about his innings today as it wasnt match winning..

 

[Atif]

p.s.
you can wind the indian supporters up as much as you like, I just hope it doesnt come back to bite us against nz tomorrow!

Allah Malik hai

 

[Momo]

you can wind the indian supporters up as much as you like, I just hope it doesnt come back to bite us against nz tomorrow!

What fun would a cricket forum be without this mirch-masaala rivalry!

 

[IMMY69]

People will soon forget about his innings today as it wasnt match winning..

Atif, today's innings was just one out of about 45 hundreds and 90 odd 50's and a total accumulation of over 17000 runs!

This guy is the best of the best and people will always harp on about his inability to win matches yet forget that he has been around 20 hears or so and has played many a great innings, the world over.

He is a true living legend and Despite his race or religion I can appreciate him for being one of the very best batsmen to have ever graced a cricket field.

 

[IMMY69]

What fun would a cricket forum be without this mirch-masaala rivalry!

I know what its all about boss but let me tell you that despite the wicket being a pancake, the bowling being aussies' second string attack, I was truly glued to the tv screen for all of Tendulkar's innings. It really was that good.

For me it was simply wonderful. I got to watch a master at work, score an awsome hundred and still got to see India lose! A wonderful win win situation all round!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Atif, today's innings was just one out of about 45 hundreds and 90 odd 50's and a total accumulation of over 17000 runs!

This guy is the best of the best and people will always harp on about his inability to win matches yet forget that he has been around 20 hears or so and has played many a great innings, the world over.

He is a true living legend and Despite his race or religion I can appreciate him for being one of the very best batsmen to have ever graced a cricket field.

Don't respond.

 

[Momo]

I know what its all about boss but let me tell you that despite the wicket being a pancake, the bowling being aussies' second string attack, I was truly glued to the tv screen for all of Tendulkar's innings. It really was that good.

For me it was simply wonderful. I got to watch a master at work, score an awsome hundred and still got to see India lose! A wonderful win win situation all round!!!!!!!!!!

It definitely was a win-win situation for me too!

 

[Atif]

It definitely was a win-win situation for me too!

I 2nd that

 

[OZGOD]

We did it Poison. We did it OZGOD!

Epic match but I'm thrilled with a result. Our team, held together by glue and sticky tape, won in a squeaker! Great knock from Tendy but we never gave up. And best of all I wasn't late for church!

 

[RexRex]

The innings saved India from utter humiliation, yes. It was a match winning knock, no.

hey, stop playing the wise oracle and give tendulkar a shout out.he was magnifico persono.

 

[OZGOD]

Special mention to Clint McKay, the replacement for Siddle (or Henriques, I forget). I think he just got in country a day or three ago and it was his debut. What a pressure situation to debut to, having to bowl to an on-fire Tendy. I thought he did ok given the circumstances.

 

[Atif]

Don't respond.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions..

 

[Atif]

Special mention to Clint McKay, the replacement for Siddle (or Henriques, I forget). I think he just got in country a day or three ago and it was his debut. What a pressure situation to debut to, having to bowl to an on-fire Tendy. I thought he did ok given the circumstances.

dont forget Marsh

 

[tdigi]

OZ your team still has the never die attitude despite injuries. Super fielding unit. Congrats mate. I thought we could clinch this 5-2, but I'll settle with 4-3
And if we end up losing the series, then we deserve all the brickbats I guess.

 

[OZGOD]

Lee
Clarke
Bracken
Siddle
Warner

Lee
Clarke
Bracken
Siddle
Warner
Hopeless
Henriques
Paine
Haddin

 

[nabeel_1990]

brilliant match 2day, reminded me of that 1st odi in 04, tendulkars innings was class

 

[OZGOD]

The innings saved India from utter humiliation, yes. It was a match winning knock, no.

As you said mate, it was a good knock, probably one of his best, but not match winning, because it didn't win the match. The matchwinning performance was probably Twatson's bowling at the death as well as Twatson and Marsh setting up a platform.

 

[Cracket]

Jadeja was doing fine under Sachin's encouragement. All he needs is advice and encourage, not a kick out of the team, imo.

 

[Apnacricket]

Tendulkar was in extra superious form.

 

[JeeraBlade]

Lee
Clarke
Bracken
Siddle
Warner
Hopeless
Henriques
Paine
Haddin

Didn't the whiners whined about missing Yuvraj, Sehwag and Zaheer in the CT and not being at full strength?

So, what's their whine today?

 

[Savak]

Tendulkar almost singlehandedly did it. I Feel for him, its frustrating to score so many runs just to end up on the losing side in the end.

 

[Apnacricket]

I for a moment thought tendy would make 200

 

[Random Aussie]

Wow India nearly got that total. I guess the YUVI must have scored big when the pressure was on no?

 

[OZGOD]

OZ your team still has the never die attitude despite injuries. Super fielding unit. Congrats mate. I thought we could clinch this 5-2, but I'll settle with 4-3
And if we end up losing the series, then we deserve all the brickbats I guess.

That's all I ask of my team - never quit till the last ball or the last over.

 

[OZGOD]

Didn't the whiners whined about missing Yuvraj, Sehwag and Zaheer in the CT and not being at full strength?

So, what's their whine today?

LOL. I can match that whine anyway - we didn't have Haddin, Clarke and Bracken.

 

[JeeraBlade]

LOL. I can match that whine anyway - we didn't have Haddin, Clarke and Bracken.

No offense but NOBODY-- and I mean nobody can match their whines. They the Champions in whining.

Nobody has uttered a word about Australia's win --- but you see post over post about the 100 that failed to win the match -- undermining the result. Had it been other way round --- Ponting crack a 175 and losing, nobody would have said a "P" word! Some of these (not all) guys are so pathetic/sore losers.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Jadeja was doing fine under Sachin's encouragement. All he needs is advice and encourage, not a kick out of the team, imo.

Yes absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If India want to have a permanent strong weak link in their lineup for good just leave Jadeja in the team.

 

[Apnacricket]

Aussies are always fighters.

 

[Romali_rotti]

No offense but NOBODY-- and I mean nobody can match their whines. They the Champions in whining.

Nobody has uttered a word about Australia's win --- but you see post over post about the 100 that failed to win the match -- undermining the result. Had it been other way round --- Ponting crack a 175 and losing, nobody would have said a "P" word! Some of these (no all) guys are so pathetic/sore losers.

lol Indian_blade and his hippie free love for the aussies.... .. Oh wait I forgot drift king here will go to bed with anyone as long as the opposition is India ..

 

[Romali_rotti]

Wow India nearly got that total. I guess the YUVI must have scored big when the pressure was on no?

Wow RA your back buddy, didnt see you when Yuvi was thumping your attack on that turning wicket a few days back ...

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=85150

 

[OZGOD]

Wow RA your back buddy, didnt see you when Yuvi was thumping your attack on that turning wicket a few days back ...

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=85150

I think RA was indisposed that day, as I was Romali

 

[Romali_rotti]

I think RA was indisposed that day, as I was Romali

I recall you being around buddy, I maybe wrong here.

 

[tdigi]

RA always seems to rear his head when the YUVI fails not that I blame him.

 

[OZGOD]

I recall you being around buddy, I maybe wrong here.

I was around for a very brief period

 

[Romali_rotti]

I was around for a very brief period

RA wasnt even around for a brief period during that game..

 

[Random Aussie]

RA wasnt even around for a brief period during that game..

RA was on tour man. Well done to the YUVI for making some runs. It happens every now and then, usually when the pressure is off.

 

[Romali_rotti]

RA was on tour man. Well done to the YUVI for making some runs. It happens every now and then, usually when the pressure is off.

Course RA will be on tour excuses, excuses ... Yep there was no pressure when it was 3 wickets down for 60 odd on the toughest ODI wicket so far played in India this series..

 

[OZGOD]

Just realised MJ wasn't playing this match either, so we were missing:

Siddle
Lee
MJ
Bracken
Hopeless
Henriques

from the bowling attack. The top 5 guys are all first choice. Amazing that we managed to win

 

[Random Aussie]

Course RA will be on tour excuses, excuses ... Yep there was no pressure when it was 3 wickets down for 60 odd on the toughest ODI wicket so far played in India this series..

Was that the match where Dhoni made all the runs and the YUVI rode his coattails?