Australian anti-Islamic activist Shermon becomes the latest far-right figure to convert to Islam

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Across the world there's a trend of far-right figures — many of them prominent Islamophobes — converting to Islam to counter rising 'wokeness'.
One of Australia’s most notorious anti-Islam activists and former head of the far-right group United Patriots Front has converted to Islam, joining a trend of prominent right-wing figures who’ve embraced the religion for its conservative stance towards masculinity, gender roles and the LGBTQIA+ community.

Shermon Burgess became a national figure during the 2010s for his involvement in now-defunct far-right nationalist groups United Patriots Front (UPF), Reclaim Australia and the Australian Defence League.

Notorious for his role in the 2015 anti-Islam protests that centred on the construction of a mosque in Bendigo, Burgess was instrumental in organising dozens of protests alongside neo-Nazis Blair Cottrell and Neil Erikson. At its height, his social media page “The Great Aussie Patriot” would share racist, inflammatory content to tens of thousands of followers.

Half a decade on, Burgess’ personal Facebook account is now adorned with a cover photo of a Palestinian flag overlaid with the Shahada and features posts praising an Islamic prayer mural in the regional town of Jindabyne.

Burgess confirmed to Crikey that he and another former anti-Islamic activist had taken their Shahada, an Arabic term for an Islamic oath, had converted to the religion and had been welcomed by his local mosque.

“The Muslim community is so kind and amazing, if you need help they are there,” he said.

Burgess said he’d backflipped on his beliefs (once saying that “multiculturalism has failed, Islam is not compatible with our way of life”) after witnessing the strength of Australia’s freedom movement — the anti-vaccine, anti-government, conspiracy-fuelled multicultural activism that emerged out of the COVID-19 pandemic. Its protests attracted a diverse crowd of different ethnic, cultural and religious communities united by their opposition to pandemic health measures.

Burgess’ meeting with Muslim Freedom Movement leader Youssra Rose was instrumental in providing him a “clearer outlook towards Islam”.

Islam as a reaction against ‘wokeism’
The former activist’s conversion is part of a global trend of prominent right-wing figures courting Muslim fanbases, sometimes by converting to Islam.

In the eyes of a new generation of conservatives, changing societal expectations around gender norms, masculinity and LGBTQIA+ rights have superseded asylum seekers, Islamic terrorism and sharia law as the single greatest threat to Western values.

The intersection of homophobia, transphobia and misogyny between former adversaries has led to an unlikely allyship between the far-right and conservative Muslims, particularly with young men.

“Most religions changed their value system and turned on their own beliefs in order to please the modern world,” Burgess told Crikey

Andrew Tate, the self-proclaimed misogynist at the centre of sex-trafficking allegations in Romania, is perhaps the most high-profile recent convert to Islam. Tate, who considers himself conservative, opposes the LGBTQIA+ community and promotes archaic gender ideas like the ownership of women. Since his conversion, Tate has alluded to supporting some sharia laws, such as a statement in which he claimed to be “collecting bricks” to stone his partner if she ever cheated.

Tate told Piers Morgan that he believed “Islam was the last true religion on earth” and later declared it the “cure to degeneracy”.

These figures position the appeal of Islam as a reaction to progressive changes in some parts of modern Christianity.

“If you look at a lot of the garbage coming out about Christian preachers now in America who are trans and Christian preachers with gay flags on the church, and all this insanity, I think that Christianity has lost its way,” Tate said on his podcast.

Another popular creator who has spoken about converting to Islam is live-streamer and anti-LGBTQIA+ influencer “Sneako”, who has more than 559,000 followers on Instagram. Sneako praised the religion for its conservative values.

On February 24, Sneako tweeted “Islam is the strongest force resisting wokeness” before posting a photo from Dubai where he appeared in Islamic robes alongside the caption “Allahu Akbar”.

Similar sentiments were posted in far-right social media influencer and Pizzagate promoter Mike Cernovich. Previously, he had criticised the religion: “The problem with Islam is not just the extremists. It’s the mainstream. It’s the fact that so many Muslims around the world support sharia law, which is fundamentally incompatible with Western values.”

More recently, Cernovich has suggested that “the moderated form of Islam is probably the West’s only hope”. Self-proclaimed “anti-woke” journalist Sameera Khan echoed this belief when she tweeted “at the end of the day, the greatest weapon we have against this disgusting woke filth is Islam”.

Other members of the far-right, such as self-proclaimed “theocratic-fascist” Matt Walsh and commentators Candace Owens and Jordan Peterson, have been capitalising on their new-found popularity amongst the Muslim community.

Clips from Walsh’s anti-transgender documentary What is a Woman? subtitled in Arabic have been gaining traction amongst young Muslim men on social media, despite the fact that Walsh has condemned Islam.

In Europe, several prominent Islamophobic politicians went on to convert to Islam, such as far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders’ former right-hand man Joram van Klaveren, who converted in 2012 after studying the Quran for an anti-Islam book he intended to publish. Arthur Wagner, a leading party official for the far-right German party Alternative for Germany converted to Islam in the same year, even as his party claims “Islam does not belong in Germany”. In France, Maxene Buttey, a local councillor for the far-right party Front National, converted to Islam before being suspended from the party.

These examples represent a trend amongst the far-right to diversify by embracing conservative sentiment in migrant communities. With the global culture war now squarely focused on issues of gender roles, sexuality and the trans community, popular misogynistic far-right figures are latching onto Islam as the strongest ideological framework to fight their battles against the modern world.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/03/03/shermon-burgess-islam-far-right/
 
The anti Islamaphobes have to read into Islam to debate thr Muslims and as they research, they realise that Islam is beautiful and at its heart is the humanity and dignity which all human beings should aspire to.
 
Its beautiful to see the true religion of God is changing peoples lives, from darkness to light.

Plenty of ex far right in the UK are now Muslims, thousands.
 
This is just the tip of the iceberg, there will be many thousands more who even if they don't want to be Muslim, will wish their own beliefs stood up for some of the same values Islam stands for. The modern world is great in so many ways, but racism, gender confusion, hedonism and sheer materialism have left many people confused and lacking direction.
 
Allahu Akbar.

Another Islamophobe converts to Islam.

All the best to him.
 
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Its beautiful to see the true religion of God is changing peoples lives, from darkness to light.

Plenty of ex far right in the UK are now Muslims, thousands.

Indeed.

Truth is always superior to falsehood.

3 nasty Islamophobes have converted to Islam in recent times (2 Dutch and 1 Aussie). There are probably many more.
 
Allahu Akbar.

Another Islamophobe converts to Islam.

All the best to him.

Most have little understanding. A lot of these far right groups which are anti-Muslim are financed, supported by the Zionist organistions.

Ive met a fair few far right but once they realise you are not much different to them in terms of what we all want in life, they come to an understanding.

What many converts esp from these backgrounds love is they are accepted without suspicion and seen as brothers from day 1. A lot come from broken homes, no fathers , poor areas etc. They have a lot of anger within them, which often leads to blaming others.

Not sure if this should be merged with the converts thread but this is an interesting video. He has so many tattoos but wasn't judged.

Converts often end up as better Muslims than those born in a Muslim family.

 
Shayku Abdul Hakim Murad aka Tim Winter who is one of the titans of Islam in Britain has mentioned that many members of the far right across Europe have contacted him and privately became Muslim.
 
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The anti Islamaphobes have to read into Islam to debate thr Muslims and as they research, they realise that Islam is beautiful and at its heart is the humanity and dignity which all human beings should aspire to.

Can you tell me some beautiful things about Islam? Nothing wrong in spreading the word. I have read tafsirs and listened to many online Kutbas. Not just Islam, I tried to read about other religions too. I have not found anything great that Islam offers. May be I am missing something.
 
Give me 5 minutes with this Shermon fella and I bet I can convert him to Christianity.
 
Can you tell me some beautiful things about Islam? Nothing wrong in spreading the word. I have read tafsirs and listened to many online Kutbas. Not just Islam, I tried to read about other religions too. I have not found anything great that Islam offers. May be I am missing something.

What is your current belief? It seems you follow Hinduism as you're often defending BJP/RSS.

What are you looking for ? Or just trolling?
 
Most have little understanding. A lot of these far right groups which are anti-Muslim are financed, supported by the Zionist organistions.

Ive met a fair few far right but once they realise you are not much different to them in terms of what we all want in life, they come to an understanding.

What many converts esp from these backgrounds love is they are accepted without suspicion and seen as brothers from day 1. A lot come from broken homes, no fathers , poor areas etc. They have a lot of anger within them, which often leads to blaming others.

Not sure if this should be merged with the converts thread but this is an interesting video. He has so many tattoos but wasn't judged.

Converts often end up as better Muslims than those born in a Muslim family.


Good observations.
 
Give me 5 minutes with this Shermon fella and I bet I can convert him to Christianity.

You are making statement like Hardik Pandya now.

BTW, he had Christian background before (if I am not wrong).
 
Can you tell me some beautiful things about Islam? Nothing wrong in spreading the word. I have read tafsirs and listened to many online Kutbas. Not just Islam, I tried to read about other religions too. I have not found anything great that Islam offers. May be I am missing something.

Islam promotes social justice and fairness.

Islam promotes traditional, normal, and civilized values.

Islam encourages accountability as we all will return to God and we are answerable to God.

Islam encourages healthy habits (for example, there is a hadith that says something like fill up one third of your belly with food, one third with water, and keep one third for air. In other words, don't eat too much).

Just to name a few. It is a complete way of life. There is a reason why it has a very high conversion rate. People are mesmerized by its beauty.

I understand you are probably salty due to Islam's success. But, I urge you to study it further (without any hatred or bias).
 
Can you tell me some beautiful things about Islam? Nothing wrong in spreading the word. I have read tafsirs and listened to many online Kutbas. Not just Islam, I tried to read about other religions too. I have not found anything great that Islam offers. May be I am missing something.

Some things aren't for everyone.

For example, even when you have a critically acclaimed movie with 100s of reviews you will find some crazy dude complaining in the comments leaving a 1 star review saying that it wasn't for him.
 
Islam promotes social justice and fairness. <b>
Women”s witness is only half that of man’s in the court of law. Non- Muslims cannot propagate their religion in Islamic lands.
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Islam promotes traditional, normal, and civilized values. <b>
Non-Muslims have to pay Jazya. There is no limit for it.< /b>

Islam encourages accountability as we all will return to God and we are answerable to God. <b>
All religions do that. Not just Islam.< /b>

Islam encourages healthy habits (for example, there is a hadith that says something like fill up one third of your belly with food, one third with water, and keep one third for air. In other words, don't eat too much). <b>
Ayurveda or Indian traditional medicine speaks about intermittent fasting to lose wait and cleans the system. So nothing special. < /b>

Just to name a few. It is a complete way of life. There is a reason why it has a very high conversion rate. People are mesmerized by its beauty. <b>
I have seen videos of Russians and Ukrainians converting to Hinduism. Hundreds of them. People are people.< /b>


I understand you are probably salty due to Islam's success. But, I urge you to study it further (without any hatred or bias).

I am not salty. I genuinely do not find anything special. However I loved the message of Jesus when he said love your enemies. Pretty powerful thing to say for a man 2000 years ago.
 
Can you tell me some beautiful things about Islam? Nothing wrong in spreading the word. I have read tafsirs and listened to many online Kutbas. Not just Islam, I tried to read about other religions too. I have not found anything great that Islam offers. May be I am missing something.

It depends on what you are looking for and how or what you define as beautiful or great. Let us get that out of the way and then maybe I can help, although I am no expert on the matter.
 
It depends on what you are looking for and how or what you define as beautiful or great. Let us get that out of the way and then maybe I can help, although I am no expert on the matter.

Something that makes you say “wow! How did he know that”.
 
Something that makes you say “wow! How did he know that”.

There are some things in Quran that nobody could've known in year 600. Big Bang, for example.

"Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?" (Al-Quran - 21:30).

Just one example.

Anyway, you can mock all you want. Islam is growing stronger. Deal with it.
 
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I am not salty. I genuinely do not find anything special. However I loved the message of Jesus when he said love your enemies. Pretty powerful thing to say for a man 2000 years ago.

Jesus (PBUH) was a great prophet of God. He promoted goodness just like all other prophets (peace be upon them).

BTW, forgiveness is also encouraged in Islam. As a matter of fact, forgiving people is very rewarding in Islam. You can read about it here: https://islamqa.info/en/answers/178255/virtue-of-forgiving-others-in-islam.

Here's a verse from Quran --> “And if you punish [an enemy, O believers], punish with an equivalent of that with which you were harmed. But if you are patient - it is better for those who are patient” [an-Nahl 16:126]
 
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Can you tell me some beautiful things about Islam? Nothing wrong in spreading the word. I have read tafsirs and listened to many online Kutbas. Not just Islam, I tried to read about other religions too. I have not found anything great that Islam offers. May be I am missing something.

Humanity and dignity of people. As Ind your society is riddled with cast based on skin colour, which leads to racism and the lack of humanity and dignity for man. Don't confuse the useless Muslims that we are with the beauty of Islam
 
There are some things in Quran that nobody could've known in year 600. Big Bang, for example.

"Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?" (Al-Quran - 21:30).

Just one example.

Anyway, you can mock all you want. Islam is growing stronger. Deal with it.

Heaven and Earth are still joined together. Earth is still in Heavens. There was never a split. I am not mocking. Hinduism also has so many absurdities like all religions. I acknowledge that. I don't hide behind anything as a Hindu.
 
Humanity and dignity of people. As Ind your society is riddled with cast based on skin colour, which leads to racism and the lack of humanity and dignity for man. Don't confuse the useless Muslims that we are with the beauty of Islam

Caste is not based on skin color. It is Varnashrama Dharma. Not Varna Dharma. Which means groups based on occupation. Not on color.
There is enough evidence of racism in Islam too bro. Just like Manuspmriti in Hinduism & Slavery in Bible.
 
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But Hindu's say all these people are being forced in to Islam like us Pakistanis were!:viru Hindu fundo's insist that you can only believe in what the ancestors did 20 million years back?:broad These Indian Hindu RSS rules do not apply to the people of Nepal because they accepted Hinduism from another religion.

Who forced this man to accept Islam??:asghar
 
But Hindu's say all these people are being forced in to Islam like us Pakistanis were!:viru Hindu fundo's insist that you can only believe in what the ancestors did 20 million years back?:broad These Indian Hindu RSS rules do not apply to the people of Nepal because they accepted Hinduism from another religion.

Who forced this man to accept Islam??:asghar

Bro, people can accept any religion they want. Christianity and Islam are actively proselytizing religions. They will obviously have lot more converts than say Buddhism or Hinduism or Sikhism.
 
Bro, people can accept any religion they want. Christianity and Islam are actively proselytizing religions. They will obviously have lot more converts than say Buddhism or Hinduism or Sikhism.

I have no problem with people converting to Hinduism at all. I have a problem with Hindu fundo's insisting Islam and Christianity was forced on the people of the subcontinent. If so then Hinduism was forced on them as well.

No one is stopping Hindu's from proselytizing. Ghar wapsi??
 
Caste is not based on skin color. It is Varnashrama Dharma. Not Varna Dharma. Which means groups based on occupation. Not on color.
There is enough evidence of racism in Islam too bro. Just like Manuspmriti in Hinduism & Slavery in Bible.

I think we are going to end up in the never ending “my God is better than your God” argument here which is utterly pointless. Your point is “prove to me your religion is divine” and I’m afraid nobody here will be able to prove it or convince you.

It does not work this way when it comes to the matter of faith. The more pertinent question is “what are you looking for?”
People who “find” God and converts to other faiths or “reborn” religious people are always those who have some sort of a burning question. They are always looking for the answer. It’s kind of like “what is the Matrix?”
So unless you have that emptiness inside, you won’t find any satisfying answers here. And to your point about there being more Muslim converts only because muslims are preaching more, I assure you, it would have “zero” consequence if and unless if Islam did not have the scratch to the burning itch they carry. There are Christian missionaries preaching Christianity around the world as well. People seeking mediation and peace in Buddhism and whatnot, so it’s a case of you picking your poison.

If you happen to be a man of science with a logical mind, and severe doubts on matters of the divine nature, you won’t find any answers through this discussion. I have personally tried and have found the answers rather unsatisfactory and to this day remain unconvinced. But what I do know is that when it comes to faith, it is a choice you have already made.

You just don’t know it yet.
 
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A lot come from broken homes, no fathers , poor areas etc. They have a lot of anger within them, which often leads to blaming others.

This is a key point. Lacking a father figure, men need a set of rules from a patriarch.

I saw a docu about this. Two white English reverts. Both lacked fathers. Sadly both are now in HMP Belmarsh for terrorist offences.

But if Islam brings others internal peace and they go on to be decent citizens then good for them.
 
Caste is not based on skin color. It is Varnashrama Dharma. Not Varna Dharma. Which means groups based on occupation. Not on color.
There is enough evidence of racism in Islam too bro. Just like Manuspmriti in Hinduism & Slavery in Bible.

At the heart of Hinduism is the case system. It is man made racist system to keep the darker people down. It is Apartheid under a different name. It destroys the dignity of man and it is as strong today as it has ever been, bar the cosmetic changes.
 
Hopefully these right wing figures are converting to Islam because its the truth and not because its the strongest force resisting wokeness.
 
At the heart of Hinduism is the case system. It is man made racist system to keep the darker people down. It is Apartheid under a different name. It destroys the dignity of man and it is as strong today as it has ever been, bar the cosmetic changes.

It is based on the occupation. Not on skin color. It is discriminatory, but it is not racist. All Indians are same race. You cannot tell a Brahmin from a Vyshya or a Shudra. They all look the same. Only the native tribals can have a little different look. They have no caste. They are all grouped as Dalits.
 
I saw a documentary called "Redneck Muslim". Its about the rednecks in America converting to Islam. Islam continues to grow in unexpected places.
 
It is based on the occupation. Not on skin color. It is discriminatory, but it is not racist. All Indians are same race. You cannot tell a Brahmin from a Vyshya or a Shudra. They all look the same. Only the native tribals can have a little different look. They have no caste. They are all grouped as Dalits.

It's racist and you know it. The darker the people the more they are discrimination. This to a point where some of your people don't even touch or eat from the same utensils.
 
There is enough evidence of racism in Islam too bro.

Can you point me to any texts from Islamic sources which show evidence of racism?

Islam united various races and tribes in the 7th century, thats why the Islamic expansion at that time so rapid.

I know that some Muslims can be racist but Islam has come closest to eliminating racism out of all religions, thats what Malcolm X realized as well when he went to Hajj and saw people of all races united in worshipping the one God and became a Muslim.
 
It's racist and you know it. The darker the people the more they are discrimination. This to a point where some of your people don't even touch or eat from the same utensils.

As far as I know, the cased system in Hinduism is sanctioned in the ancient text known as Rigveda.
 
Hopefully these right wing figures are converting to Islam because its the truth and not because its the strongest force resisting wokeness.

I know what you mean, but the viewing of Islam as this last bulwark against liberalism/wokeism is appealing to many people on the right.
 
I know what you mean, but the viewing of Islam as this last bulwark against liberalism/wokeism is appealing to many people on the right.

That which you term wokeism is a type of authoritarian social control, and therefore the opposite of liberalism.

People on the right tend to be authoritarian fundy Christians.
 
That which you term wokeism is a type of authoritarian social control, and therefore the opposite of liberalism.

People on the right tend to be authoritarian fundy Christians.

I consider wokeism to be Christianity 2.0, as it came as a dialectical progress in Christian tradition, first came classical liberalism whose founders were devout Christians, then modern liberalism and then wokeism.

There is a reason why wokeism came out of America as it is the outgrowth of hegemonic US liberalism.
 
Him and Tate converted. Some quality people converting to Islam. Solid people.
 
It's racist and you know it. The darker the people the more they are discrimination. This to a point where some of your people don't even touch or eat from the same utensils.

Its not dependent on color. Its on the occupation. You are hell bent on proving Hinduism as some kind of European racism. It is not. Brahmins do not eat food from Vyshya and Shudra households too. Its weird, but that is how they rolled.
Dalits were mainly doing the unsacred jobs like Leather tanning from dead animals and other menial jobs. They were considered impure and were not allowed in the cities of caste Hindus. They lived outside of the cities. They were illtreated. But not because of their color.

If color was the deciding factor, Hindus would not be praying to dark skinned Gods like Rama and Krishna who were both dark skinned.
 
I consider wokeism to be Christianity 2.0, as it came as a dialectical progress in Christian tradition, first came classical liberalism whose founders were devout Christians, then modern liberalism and then wokeism.

There is a reason why wokeism came out of America as it is the outgrowth of hegemonic US liberalism.

I don’t see how wokeism has anything to do with Christianity or liberalism either. It seems to me an authoritarian creed which opposes some Scripture.

As for liberalism, Voltaire and many of the American Founding Fathers were deists not Christians. John Stuart Mill was agnostic and sceptic.
 
Him and Tate converted. Some quality people converting to Islam. Solid people.

Anyone can convert to Islam and become a better person.

That's the beauty of Islam.

You may not understand it as you are an atheist.
 
Its not dependent on color. Its on the occupation. You are hell bent on proving Hinduism as some kind of European racism. It is not. Brahmins do not eat food from Vyshya and Shudra households too. Its weird, but that is how they rolled.
Dalits were mainly doing the unsacred jobs like Leather tanning from dead animals and other menial jobs. They were considered impure and were not allowed in the cities of caste Hindus. They lived outside of the cities. They were illtreated. But not because of their color.

If color was the deciding factor, Hindus would not be praying to dark skinned Gods like Rama and Krishna who were both dark skinned.

If hygiene is the reason,surely a religion from the eternal would have guided his followers to some basic hygiene. And why were the darker people only doing the dirty jobs? Why not the light skinned people? Do you know where else that happened in a codified way? Yes you guessed it
 
Its not dependent on color. Its on the occupation. You are hell bent on proving Hinduism as some kind of European racism. It is not. Brahmins do not eat food from Vyshya and Shudra households too. Its weird, but that is how they rolled.
Dalits were mainly doing the unsacred jobs like Leather tanning from dead animals and other menial jobs. They were considered impure and were not allowed in the cities of caste Hindus. They lived outside of the cities. They were illtreated. But not because of their color.

If color was the deciding factor, Hindus would not be praying to dark skinned Gods like Rama and Krishna who were both dark skinned.



Very interesting insight. Might be worth a thread on it's own as dark skinned people accross the world are not seen favourably unless they prove themselves physically like the Africans.
 
It depends on what you are looking for and how or what you define as beautiful or great. Let us get that out of the way and then maybe I can help, although I am no expert on the matter.

If hygiene is the reason,surely a religion from the eternal would have guided his followers to some basic hygiene. And why were the darker people only doing the dirty jobs? Why not the light skinned people? Do you know where else that happened in a codified way? Yes you guessed it

So you are saying Hindus don’t have hygiene. Any proof of that from Hindu religious texts?
 
It depends on what you are looking for and how or what you define as beautiful or great. Let us get that out of the way and then maybe I can help, although I am no expert on the matter.

It's racist and you know it. The darker the people the more they are discrimination. This to a point where some of your people don't even touch or eat from the same utensils.

Darker people in Pakistan are also discriminated. It’s there in every society. Why single out Hindus?
 
Darker people in Pakistan are also discriminated. It’s there in every society. Why single out Hindus?

It's not religiously codified, nothing to do with Islam and nowhere near to the level of Ind. And if I may add, its also a legacy of when they were Hindus before Islam arrived. I agree it is awful
 
Darker people in Pakistan are also discriminated. It’s there in every society. Why single out Hindus?

Discrimination due to darker skin is not supported by Islam. Islam says all races are equal.

But, it is a thing in Hinduism (caste system). No?
 
I don’t see how wokeism has anything to do with Christianity or liberalism either. It seems to me an authoritarian creed which opposes some Scripture.

As for liberalism, Voltaire and many of the American Founding Fathers were deists not Christians. John Stuart Mill was agnostic and sceptic.

I see the evolution of Christianity to wokeism in the following ways.

From God is love to Love is Love.

From original sin to white guilt.

From only God can judge me to my body my choice, my life my rules.

From Jesus is 100% human and 100% God to Trans-women are real women.

I can go on and on.
 
I see the evolution of Christianity to wokeism in the following ways.

From God is love to Love is Love.

From original sin to white guilt.

From only God can judge me to my body my choice, my life my rules.

From Jesus is 100% human and 100% God to Trans-women are real women.

I can go on and on.

You could, but none of those things follow.
 
It depends on what you are looking for and how or what you define as beautiful or great. Let us get that out of the way and then maybe I can help, although I am no expert on the matter.

The proof is in the videos. Do you want me to provide some?

What some Hindus do does not paint all of the Hindus. Hinduism has deteriorated in the past 2 centuries with no patronizing from Muslim rulers.

I can post videos too about your religion. In fact I can post stuff from Hadith too which you may not like.
 
It's not religiously codified, nothing to do with Islam and nowhere near to the level of Indl

Is it codified in the Hindu scriptures that dark skinned people should be assigned to menial or unhygienic jobs ? If not, Islam and Hinduism is in the same boat as far as discirimination goes.
 
Is it codified in the Hindu scriptures that dark skinned people should be assigned to menial or unhygienic jobs ? If not, Islam and Hinduism is in the same boat as far as discirimination goes.

How? Islam is anti-racism. All races are equal in Islam. All skin colors are equal in Islam.
 
Or you could just say that wokeism is an evolved form of liberalism as the following link defines it as.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/wokeism

Indeed.

Wokeism came from liberalism. It is the modern day liberalism. Also known as "radical liberalism".

Wokeism is like a trojan virus. Once this virus infects someone, he/she may lose touch with reality.

Due to wokeism, some people in West now can't define what is a man and what is a woman.
 
Indeed.

Wokeism came from liberalism. It is the modern day liberalism. Also known as "radical liberalism".

Wokeism is like a trojan virus. Once this virus infects someone, he/she may lose touch with reality.

Due to wokeism, some people in West now can't define what is a man and what is a woman.

Yeah, some people call it cultural Marxism, which is wrong in my opinion. Its an evolved form of liberalism.
 
That's not related to race. We are discussing racism here.

All races and skin colors are equal in Islam.
I think you are not being honest .the way you state it , it’s like Islam is the most fair thing . Reality is Muslims and non Muslims are not equal in Islam. . Yes if they convert they are equal in the eyes of the Islamic law . In theory that is also not true. Example. If a local ( gulf Arab) dies in a crash his amount for blood money is more than a Muslim Pakistani in the same situation. I am talking about men here. Women is a whole different story.
 
How? Islam is anti-racism. All races are equal in Islam. All skin colors are equal in Islam.

The worth of a Black slave is half that of free slave in Arabia. Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries were the last to ban slavery in 1960’s. They had to do that because British forced them to do so.
 
The worth of a Black slave is half that of free slave in Arabia. Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries were the last to ban slavery in 1960’s. They had to do that because British forced them to do so.

Any source? It seems like you get all these information from various Islamophobic websites.

Even if this is true, this is not what Islam promotes. As per Islam, all races and skin colors are equal.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said, "O people, verily your Lord is One and your father is one. Verily there is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab or of a non-Arab over an Arab, or of a red man over a black man, or of a black man over a red man, except in terms of taqwa (piety)."
 
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Indeed.

Wokeism came from liberalism. It is the modern day liberalism. Also known as "radical liberalism".

Wokeism is like a trojan virus. Once this virus infects someone, he/she may lose touch with reality.

Due to wokeism, some people in West now can't define what is a man and what is a woman.

Liberalism existed for over a century. Wokeism is a recent phenomenon. What started as an anti racism campaign degenerated into snowflakery and cringe behavior of people.

Liberals must disassociate themselves from Woke morons. They managed to make me vote for Republicans in the last elections.
 
The worth of a Black slave is half that of free slave in Arabia. Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries were the last to ban slavery in 1960’s. They had to do that because British forced them to do so.

Slavery has nothing to do with racism, it was common in medieval times.
 
Does any Hindu scripture say that all skin colors are not equal ?

Caste system? What is it about then?

Anyway, I am not an expert on Hinduism and I have no reason to study it.

I was responding to SalimBhai who was insinuating Islam didn't prohibit racism.
 
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Caste system? What is it about then?

Anyway, I am not an expert on Hinduism and I have no reason to study it.

I was responding to SalimBhai who was insinuating Islam didn't prohibit racism.


I am not an expert either but as far as I know the caste system was based on social classes (profession) rather than race or skin color.
 
Liberalism existed for over a century. Wokeism is a recent phenomenon. What started as an anti racism campaign degenerated into snowflakery and cringe behavior of people.

Liberals must disassociate themselves from Woke morons. They managed to make me vote for Republicans in the last elections.

Makes sense.

Wokeism is more leftist than liberal IMO.
 
I am not an expert either but as far as I know the caste system was based on social classes (profession) rather than race or skin color.

Caste system is sanctioned in the Hindu religious text of Rig Veda as far as I know.
 
Caste system is sanctioned in the Hindu religious text of Rig Veda as far as I know.

It was codified by Manu around 6th or 7th century. Caste system was there in Buddhism too. It was based on one’s occupation.
 
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