Awful ODI attendances in Australia this season

[Junaids]

Summer is here, the private schools have closed for summer and the first three ODI's have been played, each in cities which haven't yet hosted a Test this summer.

And the attendances are appalling: the largest was at the MCG today but was just 20,591 (75% empty).

By way of contrast, the recent Adelaide Day/Night Test had day-by-day attendances of:

Day 1: 32,255
Day 2: 37,932
Day 3: 35,897
Day 4: 19,909

It's hard to justify the cost of moving players and outside broadcast facilities from city to city when ground attendances would be higher for a Day/Night Test.

 

[street cricketer]

Tests weren't any good either barring Adelaide. Saw a lot of empty seats at Perth and Hobart.

 

[Junaids]

Day/Night Test TV ratings highly impressive too......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-25/adelaide-day-night-test-again-a-tv-ratings-winner/8058170

 

[Junaids]

Tests weren't any good either barring Adelaide. Saw a lot of empty seats at Perth and Hobart.

That's my point.

Tests need to be played at night like ODI's. But in Australia at least, if you offer Day/Night Tests and Day/Night ODI's, more people will take the Tests than the ODIs.

 

[street cricketer]

That's my point.

Tests need to be played at night like ODI's. But in Australia at least, if you offer Day/Night Tests and Day/Night ODI's, more people will take the Tests than the ODIs.

If people are not coming for day tests in Australia, I wonder why people are complaining about the turn out in Asia for test cricket.

 

[Aman]

ODI's in Aus don't seem to draw anymore.

 

[Junaids]

If people are not coming for day tests in Australia, I wonder why people are complaining about the turn out in Asia for test cricket.

Again, I agree.

It's a 4-5 day game, but weekends only last 2 days.

Either you play in the evenings when people have finished work or school, or you accept tiny crowds.

Adelaide is smaller than Brisbane or Perth, let alone Sydney or Melbourne, but continues to get huge Day/Night Test crowds because the game isn't hidden when everyone is at work or at school.

 

[street cricketer]

Again, I agree.

It's a 4-5 day game, but weekends only last 2 days.

Either you play in the evenings when people have finished work or school, or you accept tiny crowds.

Adelaide is smaller than Brisbane or Perth, let alone Sydney or Melbourne, but continues to get huge Day/Night Test crowds because the game isn't hidden when everyone is at work or at school.

Well you can't make all tests as day nighters.

 

[Junaids]

Well you can't make all tests as day nighters.

Why not?

In Australia and New Zealand it would be perfect. Test cricket in Prime Time!

Just leave Perth as a Day Test.

 

[Gilly]

Big Bash is the cricket highlight for this summer, watch how many people get along to these matches. Tonight was a dead rubber so its no surprise that the attendances were low.

 

[street cricketer]

Why not?

In Australia and New Zealand it would be perfect. Test cricket in Prime Time!

Just leave Perth as a Day Test.

Imagine a day and night Ashes. Think that will sort of damage the tradition. Call me old school, but wouldn't like to mess with test cricket too much. The odd day nighter in a series is fine but not an entire series.

 

[Junaids]

Big Bash is the cricket highlight for this summer, watch how many people get along to these matches. Tonight was a dead rubber so its no surprise that the attendances were low.

As we have discussed before, a large proportion of Big Bash tickets are free giveaways and Family Tickets are typically priced at A$48 (US$36) for 4 people, or US$9 per ticket.

 

[Junaids]

Imagine a day and night Ashes. Think that will sort of damage the tradition. Call me old school, but wouldn't like to mess with test cricket too much. The odd day nighter in a series is fine but not an entire series.

Next season's Ashes will definitely feature a Day/Night Test at Adelaide.

Brisbane is less certain - I suspect that the Pakistan Day/Night Test next week won't get good sales because the match is being played 4 weeks too late, when the weather is oppressively hot and humid.

Boxing Day will never be a Day/Night Test at the MCG.

I think the New Year Test at the SCG will replace Brisbane as the second annual Day/Night Test. I think Brisbane is unlikely to keep annual Tests.

 

[Gilly]

As we have discussed before, a large proportion of Big Bash tickets are free giveaways and Family Tickets are typically priced at A$48 (US$36) for 4 people, or US$9 per ticket.

That's only what you think, the facts are completely different.

 

[Junaids]

That's only what you think, the facts are completely different.

Not according to the media.......

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...h/news-story/3b81f8a71417507e9ef2c607b6197aef

http://www.afr.com/business/sport/b...al-profit-for-the-eight-teams-20151209-gljz5q

 

[Gilly]

Not according to the media.......

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/busines...h/news-story/3b81f8a71417507e9ef2c607b6197aef

http://www.afr.com/business/sport/b...al-profit-for-the-eight-teams-20151209-gljz5q

All I get is advertising for buying subscriptions to dodgy media outlets.

 

[Convict]

[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] is spot on. Twenty20 cricket has cannibalised the support of One Day cricket in Australia.

Its been obvious for a while bar the World Cup bounce.

 

[Gilly]

[MENTION=732]Gilly[/MENTION] is spot on. Twenty20 cricket has cannibalised the support of One Day cricket in Australia.

Its been obvious for a while bar the World Cup bounce.

Big bash provides more competitive matches and excitement and supporters get to follow their team like other sports.

 

[USofA]

As we have discussed before, a large proportion of Big Bash tickets are free giveaways and Family Tickets are typically priced at A$48 (US$36) for 4 people, or US$9 per ticket.

Perhaps this the trick to get people into ODI's.

 

[Pantani]

I think the days of ODI bilaterals are fast coming to an end. They should be played as World Cup qualifiers: each full member plays the others home and away in three match series across three years to seal eight places. The bottom two should be put in a playoff league along with the best six associate sides for the remaining four places at the World Cup. That would be a good system I think. To add incentive for the top eight full members to perform well throughout the qualifying period, you could have some sort of seeding system for the World Cup group stage draw, like the top two teams can't be drawn in the same group. Or there could be a money prize for finishing in the top four. Or there could be double points for away series wins on top of the other two things I suggested. Something like that, to try and ensure as many ties have relevance as possible.

ODI friendlies should be kept to tri series or regional tournaments (like the Asia Cup) only.

 

[Varun]

ODIs are the most unappetizing form of cricket at the moment. Having Tests, ODIs and T20s is like owning a laptop, tablet and mobile phone in that order.

If you want to do away with one of those, it'd be the tablet.

 

[asifp]

ICC need to think about how to keep the ODI game relevant.

Maybe more tri-series or a an on-going league. But something needs to happen.

 

[nighthawk23]

Most if not all games are meaningless + short attention spans + more entertainment options than ever before; and who wants to be baked in the sun for 9 hours?

 

[Pantani]

I think the days of ODI bilaterals are fast coming to an end. They should be played as World Cup qualifiers: each full member plays the others home and away in three match series across three years to seal eight places. The bottom two should be put in a playoff league along with the best six associate sides for the remaining four places at the World Cup. That would be a good system I think. To add incentive for the top eight full members to perform well throughout the qualifying period, you could have some sort of seeding system for the World Cup group stage draw, like the top two teams can't be drawn in the same group. Or there could be a money prize for finishing in the top four. Or there could be double points for away series wins on top of the other two things I suggested. Something like that, to try and ensure as many ties have relevance as possible.

ODI friendlies should be kept to tri series or regional tournaments (like the Asia Cup) only.

Along the lines of this, I took some time to put together a hypothetical qualifying table based on results from bilaterals since the 2015 World Cup. You get three points for a series win, one point per match won, no points for ties and NRs (in my system there would be super overs after ties so each match has a winner unless it's washed out); and double points for matches and series won away. So there would be a maximum of twelve points a team could gain from a series: winning 3-0 away.

I understand that most series have been five matches so I adjusted this table to match that, hence a team could take 16 points for a 5-0 away win, but in my system they will strictly be three match series. Also tri series results and series against Associates have been ignored. Each team will have to play eighteen series in the qualifying period, nine at home and nine away. Sorting is by points, then by away series wins, then by away match wins. The present standings, unless my data entry is wrong, look like this:

Everyone (except maybe Bangladesh, who are too high for the bottom and too low for the top) would still have something to play for at this stage. Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and West Indies are involved in a scrap for the eight spot. While everyone from South Africa to England still has a shot of finishing in the top two. This would keep the series alive right down to round 18, I predict. And hopefully that will bring the crowds in.

 

[Sin Nombre]

Didn't the last bilateral ODI series in Aus involving India see the biggest tv audiences along with very decent attendances?

Issue is more that post-BMac, NZ are not an inspiring limited overs team anymore.

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/one-...stralia-india-ratings-channel-nine/2016-01-19

 

[Convict]

Didn't the last bilateral ODI series in Aus involving India see the biggest tv audiences along with very decent attendances?

Issue is more that post-BMac, NZ are not an inspiring limited overs team anymore.

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/one-...stralia-india-ratings-channel-nine/2016-01-19

Basically what has happened with ODI cricket is that people still watch it but don't bother turning up.

Indian crowds get a few more Australian fans because of high profile opponent but the bigger part of the increase is that Australia has a very sizeable Indian expat population in the cities which host matches

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Cricket is dying in Australia as they can't bulldoze everyone anymore. The public liked being dominant but as they aren't anymore they can't be bothered.

 

[Abdullah719]

Cricket is dying in Australia as they can't bulldoze everyone anymore. The public liked being dominant but as they aren't anymore they can't be bothered.

Since this thread is about ODIs in Australia - they've lost just ONE of their last 23 ODIs at home...

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Since this thread is about ODIs in Australia - they've lost just ONE of their last 23 ODIs at home...

Yes in ODIS they are brilliant but still lost recently 5-0 and overall they are in serious decline.

 

[aloo paratha]

ODI's in Aus don't seem to draw anymore.

Maybe the pitches are a factor as well. Barring this game, most games in Australia have a first innings total of over 300. 330-350 games are fun to watch when both teams are competitive, but usually one team scores 330 and the other is bundled out for 250, there is no entertainment.

 

[Sachin136]

Yes in ODIS they are brilliant but still lost recently 5-0 and overall they are in serious decline.

That was not in Australia.