Babar Azam can be a superstar

[JaDed]

He looks very good but doesn't seem to have much time while playing in offside compared to leg side.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

One must wonder though with Amir having come back, is this a golden era for both the batting and the bowling? Great times ahead for a Pakistani fan.

 

[Zohaib Shah]

I believe he will be a Sachin of Pakistan cricket.

 

[uberkoen]

He seems like a half decent batsman but nothing to write home about just yet. Over-hyping players after one decent performance seems to be a habit on here.

 

[RagingJ]

One of the last hopes for batting the nation clings.

 

[Mamoon]

Very good batsman, hope he will score a ton soon.

 

[Belawal2014]

Good batsman by Pakistani standards. Nothing too spectacular.

 

[kingusama92]

It looks like after every youngster gets a fifty or a couple of wickets they are hailed as "the next" whatever...come on people setting your expectations so high in other people is why you will be disappointed

It's his technique that separates him from the others who have been hyped. Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood, and Ahmed Shahzad are mindless at the crease. You can feel it and their techniques are loose even when firing and being 'in form'.

In comparison, he's compact and assured at the crease. Almost un-Pakistani you could say.

Undoubtedly, it's far too early for wild claims about greatness. BUT, he is a fantastic prospect.

 

[pacesensation]

what special innings

played a stupid shot and got out

could not clear boundary on such short ground

even if he is as good as Muhammad Yousuf was, that would be great

 

[arehaan]

Sorry Super Stars re made by winning not by playing useless innings that count for nothing but personal gain. Unfortunately we are full of these stars at the moment and less team spirit.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Looks technically good.

Let's see.

Even Umar had a good phase 05 years ago, where he was next SAchin.

 

[pacesensation]

It's his technique that separates him from the others who have been hyped. Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood, and Ahmed Shahzad are mindless at the crease. You can feel it and their techniques are loose even when firing and being 'in form'.

In comparison, he's compact and assured at the crease. Almost un-Pakistani you could say.

Undoubtedly, it's far too early for wild claims about greatness. BUT, he is a fantastic prospect.

batting is more a mental game then technique. You can have an exceptionally great technique but if you have weak nerves then you are done


you can have an average technique but if you are mentally very strong, you would score lots of runs......especially when pressure is on

Sorry Super Stars re made by winning not by playing useless innings that count for nothing but personal gain. Unfortunately we are full of these stars at the moment and less team spirit.

exactly!

 

[zabalestmsm]

It's his technique that separates him from the others who have been hyped. Umar Akmal, Sohaib Maqsood, and Ahmed Shahzad are mindless at the crease. You can feel it and their techniques are loose even when firing and being 'in form'.

In comparison, he's compact and assured at the crease. Almost un-Pakistani you could say.

Undoubtedly, it's far too early for wild claims about greatness. BUT, he is a fantastic prospect.

Good points... Indeed...

 

[jog_1]

Good for Pakistan standards. We need him at #3 and Haris Sohail at #4.

 

[zabalestmsm]

batting is more a mental game then technique. You can have an exceptionally great technique but if you have weak nerves then you are done


you can have an average technique but if you are mentally very strong, you would score lots of runs......especially when pressure is on



exactly!

Babar Azam looks mentally near to strong... Not bad...

 

[kingusama92]

Sorry Super Stars re made by winning not by playing useless innings that count for nothing but personal gain. Unfortunately we are full of these stars at the moment and less team spirit.

One step at a time.

Babar Azam is definitely not a super star. Anyone who claims as such is crazy.

He's a good prospect especially for a team like ours where every second batsman is a hack.

 

[ZAK]

He looks like a decent batsman. As for him being our Sachin or Kohli that's just rubbish.

However what i can say with certainity is that he's our best Babar Azam so far and he's likely to remain that for some time.

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[cricfan14]

He has a long way to go to prove anything. He's gotten 2 50s and throw away his wicket on dumb shots. We don't need another Haris - so talented, so unable to convert.

He's like the last best hope of Pakistan batting talent lol he must know it and feel the pressure. He's played smart so far, but he never has any decent support around him guiding him along.

He's not quite strong enough yet, that's the only thing that seems to be missing. He also had the misfortune (and tactical issue) of not being able to get around the Guptill black hole - was smashing it right to him consistently

 

[pacesensation]

Babar Azam looks mentally near to strong... Not bad...

he lost it...........when it really mattered...scored a fifty in a losing cause


btw
are you casablanca and gone with the wind fan??

 

[*sallu*]

what special innings

played a stupid shot and got out

could not clear boundary on such short ground

even if he is as good as Muhammad Yousuf was, that would be great

Don't think anyone is talking about this innings in particular or in fact any of his actual achievements. We are talking about potential that is not yet defined by results because in his case it is actually early in his career (unlike Akmal, Maqsood, Shahzad).

What has already been alluded to is his ability to play proper cricketing strokes and make runs in a relatively risk free way as compared to the aforementioned players who have to revert to slogging or cute shots. If you look at most of the best and most prolific batsmen in the world, this is the common trait (AB aside) including Root, Smith, Kane, KohlI, Sharma, Warner, etc. How many of them slog? If you take out risk from your batting and continue to have the ability to score at a decent rate, that is the key to unlocking consistent run making

And ofcourse the customary disclaimer that I am not saying Babar is as good as these guys - just that I feel he shares the core common trait in his batsmanship

 

[Aman]

He looked good but seems to lack another gear.

Quality batsmen are able to up the tempo once they're set.

 

[kingusama92]

batting is more a mental game then technique. You can have an exceptionally great technique but if you have weak nerves then you are done


you can have an average technique but if you are mentally very strong, you would score lots of runs......especially when pressure is on

Absolutely.

Otherwise Asad Shafiq would be dominating ODI cricket. You are bang on.

Babar Azam is a very young batsman. We can only judge him on technique and general in-game smarts as he is just a prospect right now.

In that regard, he has the right platform to launch his career from. What he does with it now is dependent on his dedication.

 

[arehaan]

One step at a time.

Babar Azam is definitely not a super star. Anyone who claims as such is crazy.

He's a good prospect especially for a team like ours where every second batsman is a hack.

I agree with one step at a time theory too but unfortunately these steps have become far too long and players actually fall rather than moving to the next level. Babar Azam surely has potential but needs to translate this into winning else everything is useless.

 

[cricfan14]

He's honestly not strong enough to take it up the notch when they need him too.

 

[*sallu*]

He looked good but seems to lack another gear.

Quality batsmen are able to up the tempo once they're set.

I agree that he doesn't have this in his game now but in my experience this is something most top order batsmen learn and develop through their careers. I'm sure if you see a lot of the top top players they will have had similar issues

 

[imran1976]

He's honestly not strong enough to take it up the notch when they need him too.

the kid was just playing his 9th match.

 

[zabalestmsm]

he lost it...........when it really mattered...scored a fifty in a losing cause


btw
are you casablanca and gone with the wind fan??

But looks refreshing compared to the other bunch of outdated batsmen we have... Lets see if he can become a finisher as well...

And

Yo....

 

[zabalestmsm]

He looked good but seems to lack another gear.

Quality batsmen are able to up the tempo once they're set.

Like Kane Williamson?

 

[cricfan14]

the kid was just playing his 9th match.

that's fine. but he's not particularly strong, and while you don't need to slog, he's not yet at the point where he has that kind of strength to really take over a match.

 

[Sherazkhalid]

The minute ppl say so and so is superstar, they start acting like one and get added to the TTF list.

 

[cricketInsight]

He has promise and decent technique. Was much better than any other Pakistani batsman today so he does deserve a run and hopefully he can put his head down and work hard.

 

[imran1976]

that's fine. but he's not particularly strong, and while you don't need to slog, he's not yet at the point where he has that kind of strength to really take over a match.

obviously, it's rare that you take over the match when you have just played nine matches ---- I am hopeful that he will improve with the passage of time.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Batted well today, just needs to put his head down and continue working.

 

[cricfan14]

obviously, it's rare that you take over the match when you have just played nine matches ---- I am hopeful that he will improve with the passage of time.

my point is he might be a little TOO slim. can be worked on.

 

[Ahson8]

He was very good today, but I was very disappointed with the way he got out. That turned the game IMO. InshaAllah he'll learn from this.

 

[cricfan14]

Batted well today, just needs to put his head down and continue working.

also needs an ounce of talent around him

 

[BigBoy123]

Lol on all wrist sitters bashing him

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[kingusama92]

my point is he might be a little TOO slim. can be worked on.

Joe Root and Ajinkya Rahane are just as slim.

 

[sandsaims]

Amazing talent this kid. Should be a top 3 bat in the world very soon.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

We haven't learned a thing or 2 from hyping up players before they perform consistently. People said the same about Maqsood, Jamshed, Fawad, Shehzad and look at them now.

I would not have Fawad Alam in the list. The poor guy never gets a good chance.

 

[Aman]

Like Kane Williamson?

lol are you serious? Have you seen bat in Tests before? Or play a T20 before? He has a better SR than Guptill and Taylor in T20's.

 

[Aman]

He was very good today, but I was very disappointed with the way he got out. That turned the game IMO. InshaAllah he'll learn from this.

There was one game turning moment and that was when Henry and Mitch got going.

After that, not once did I think we were going to lose.

The RRR was around the 7's 25 overs out, no way Pakistan chase that without a Afridi special.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Amazing talent this kid. Should be a top 3 bat in the world very soon.

Just like Umar Akmal )

 

[sandsaims]

Just like Umar Akmal )

Umar is on the top already with shezad being a close second.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Umar is on the top already with shezad being a close second.

Yes Umar is a top 3 bat in the world.

 

[CricFan2012]

Subhanala

What an excellent innings!

 

[Theo_14]

Really do feel for our fans. We are in a position; where any youngster performs; we come up with threads like this.

We haven't learned anything from Umar Akmal have we. At least the comparison with Kohli has stopped.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Needs a lot of work but already better than almost every Batman in the odi team which says more about our cricket team than Babar azam himself.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Really excellent and promising inns today, number 4/5 spot seems to suit him in ODIs and way he plays.

 

[shaaik]

Another one of those hype threads.

Is this Professor in your DP??

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[endymion248]

Needs a lot of work but already better than almost every Batman in the odi team which says more about our cricket team than Babar azam himself.

He's not the batsman we deserve but the one we need right now.

 

[JibranAnsari]

He's not the batsman we deserve but the one we need right now.

Lol he isn't all that good tbh , no dark knight. Just another regular batsman who probably won't find a place in the top 5 odi teams anyway.

 

[786pk]

I don't understand some reactions here by fans. He is a 21 year old with his first away series outside the subcontinent and did well on a pitch were majority struggled (NZ top and middle order struggled in their own conditions). Give the kid a break!

 

[90MPH]

All I will say he's a very promising talented batsman.

But I just hope to God the guy keeps working hard in his spare time so he keeps improving.

Keep him away from 20/20 rubbish at all costs because I know this format can ruin him.

He needs to improve 2 aspects:

- He needs to pierce the gaps better as he played a lot of crisp shots straight to the fielder, hopefully he will learn in time just to look at the gaps and play fraction later.

- He needs to stop playing any unnecessary slog shots against quick bowlers. That's not his game; only if absolute necessary near the end of an innings.

 

[Ahson8]

There was one game turning moment and that was when Henry and Mitch got going.

After that, not once did I think we were going to lose.

The RRR was around the 7's 25 overs out, no way Pakistan chase that without a Afridi special.

We could still have chased it down IMO.

 

[Mamoon]

I missed his celebration after his half-century. Did he take his helmet off, performed multiple sajdas and danced around the ground or did it normally like batsmen from other teams?

I really hope it's the latter.

 

[Mobashir]

I missed his celebration after his half-century. Did he take his helmet off, performed multiple sajdas and danced around the ground or did it normally like batsmen from other teams?

I really hope it's the latter.

You really are so mean... Have to bring non cricket related things in every thread!

 

[Mamoon]

You really are so mean... Have to bring non cricket related things in every thread!

I think it gives a good insight into the mentality of the players. Plenty of our batsmen celebrated mini milestones like half-centuries as if they have done something special, and that is why they fail to score big.

The desire to get big runs is simply not there, the motivation drops after 50 runs.

I hope Babar proves to be different. Since MoYo, we haven't had a middle-order batsman who has been a consistent century maker. It will make a big difference to our ODI batting if someone like Babar comes in at number 4 and scores hundreds regularly.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Has anyone noticed that him and Hafeez play well together

 

[#GreenRoars]

Fine knock by him today, this kid will become better and better with time.

 

[Syed1]

I missed his celebration after his half-century. Did he take his helmet off, performed multiple sajdas and danced around the ground or did it normally like batsmen from other teams?

I really hope it's the latter.

I thought he would take a victory lap of the ground

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

I think it gives a good insight into the mentality of the players. Plenty of our batsmen celebrated mini milestones like half-centuries as if they have done something special, and that is why they fail to score big.

The desire to get big runs is simply not there, the motivation drops after 50 runs.

I hope Babar proves to be different. Since MoYo, we haven't had a middle-order batsman who has been a consistent century maker. It will make a big difference to our ODI batting if someone like Babar comes in at number 4 and scores hundreds regularly.

He just put his bat up, two seconds, no sajda.

Also, you have to understand that it has a lot to do with the education levels and what they have been exposed to as well. You are shaped by your culture.

I am not saying that I condone it, but I understand it as well.

 

[asyed]

I missed his celebration after his half-century. Did he take his helmet off, performed multiple sajdas and danced around the ground or did it normally like batsmen from other teams?

I really hope it's the latter.

He doesn't do it after 50, have seen it few times. If you're really following him then you should've observed too.

 

[asyed]

I must say this, would like to see him bat with Haris.

 

[Mamoon]

He just put his bat up, two seconds, no sajda.

Also, you have to understand that it has a lot to do with the education levels and what they have been exposed to as well. You are shaped by your culture.

I am not saying that I condone it, but I understand it as well.

That is true, and I am glad he is taking a different approach to it.

 

[in_cutter]

Fine knock by him today, this kid will become better and better with time.

Same was said about Umar & Shehzad. Keep your expectations low.

 

[Mamoon]

He doesn't do it after 50, have seen it few times. If you're really following him then you should've observed too.

Don't take offense. Scoring a fifty vs Zimbabwe or in the UAE is different to scoring one in NZ. I'm happy that he didn't show too much excitement and should be disappointed that he threw it away and didn't take the team home.

 

[Belawal2014]

Pehle star toh bann ne do Babar ko.

 

[Belawal2014]

Don't take offense. Scoring a fifty vs Zimbabwe or in the UAE is different to scoring one in NZ. I'm happy that he didn't show too much excitement and should be disappointed that he threw it away and didn't take the team home.

It's shame really, so much weight on his shoulders...I feel for the kid. He's going to be carrying this hopeless bunch for a while..

 

[Syed1]

It's shame really, so much weight on his shoulders...I feel for the kid. He's going to be carrying this hopeless bunch for a while..

Well Haris Sohail was doing it before him. It would be interesting when Sohail returns. We will have two grafters at number 3 and 4 able to play at a SR of 75-80 and then we can play tullay-baaz around them to balance the equation.

At present we look like a fish out of water.

 

[asyed]

Don't take offense. Scoring a fifty vs Zimbabwe or in the UAE is different to scoring one in NZ. I'm happy that he didn't show too much excitement and should be disappointed that he threw it away and didn't take the team home.

Agree and it seems to me that he's at a different level as compare with all other clowns in our team, which reflects in his game (at least so far).

As for scoring 50's, the problem is our players take 50's as 100's and pretend that their job is done when they crosses it. This reflect what kind of standards they've settled for themselves (very low).

 

[asyed]

Well Haris Sohail was doing it before him. It would be interesting when Sohail returns. We will have two grafters at number 3 and 4 able to play at a SR of 75-80 and then we can play tullay-baaz around them to balance the equation.

At present we look like a fish out of water.

Ditto, I was thinking the same. And cherry on top will be if some how we can find a decent opener.

 

[Belawal2014]

Well Haris Sohail was doing it before him. It would be interesting when Sohail returns. We will have two grafters at number 3 and 4 able to play at a SR of 75-80 and then we can play tullay-baaz around them to balance the equation.

At present we look like a fish out of water.

Seems Haris will be out for 1.5 years + though, according to that thread by a certain poster who went through the same knee surgery...

It remains to be seen if Haris can make a comeback, and if he can, will he be at the level he was before getting injured? I don't know..

Also, it's a sad state of affairs when our whole batting is built around these two and if one of them gets injured we look like amateurs while other nations have competent replacements waiting in the wings.

 

[in_cutter]

What is the fuss about Haris Sohail? No hundreds in List A cricket. I honestly think he is being hyped up like majority of other batsmen.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

What is the fuss about Haris Sohail? No hundreds in List A cricket. I honestly think he is being hyped up like majority of other batsmen.

21 innings in ODIs, 43 average, 7 50s, 83 SR, against good opponents, NZ would have been a century but he was 85* due to coming later and not enough runs to score.

He is a good player. I don't know what "hyping" you are insinuating, but he is a good player, good technique, still needs to work on his game, but for a Pakistani he is a good solid bat.

He has plenty of FC centuries, and plenty of players didn't have their first LA century till ODIs. Look at Shafiq, nothing in ODIs.

Sohail should be a staple barring health for years to come and hopefully a 40s batsmen with a 80+ SR. If that is hyping, then sorry I am hyping that we have a decent bat? Not necessarily a star, who knows, but a good bat who is stable.

 

[HaiderAbbasRizvi]

No he can't, Ramiz Raja's and many other's regional bias not withstanding, afflicted with the Akmal genes. Only good enough to score runs for his personal average during his initial honey-moon phase which will only phase out once he is well-established in the team.

 

[sam_ahm]

He is a very very good batsmen, from whatever I've seen of him, Please groom him properly Pakistan!

 

[Yanna_Rascala]

One must wonder though with Amir having come back, is this a golden era for both the batting and the bowling? Great times ahead for a Pakistani fan.

Your trolling is pathetic. We admit our team to be mediocre whereas you and your ****rymen think your team is full of superstars. Yet, you get whipped everywhere you go and even at homes. It must be a really exciting time to be an indian fan

 

[WC-Passion]

Haris-Babar-Rizwan-Umar are the players that should be in the team overseas.

 

[CricFan2012]

It's funny how when Pakistan uncovers 2 world class batsmen in Harris and Babar they're bowling goes downwards.

I think every neutral knew the crackdown was on those 2 chuckers but sad seeing junaids downfall, wahabs been overrated over the moon, who are upcoming world class bowlers from pak?