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Babar Azam versus Lokesh Rahul

Hyperion66 said:
Sorry I thought you were talking bout that selfish odi knock against Aus. My bad entirely. You posts are a bit incoherent, I thought you are talking about Odis. Okay so what's so special about a knock in Uae and a bloody half century? No, if he was Indian he would probably never get to play test alongside Kohli given his poor First Class record. Rahul may not deserve a place because we have superior bats waiting you don't. BTW one poor series in AUS shouldn't mean much to you, your legends has been operating their own poultry firms in Australia their since ages.

You have an opinion that I may not agree but I surely respect it. You don't have to be sorry about anything. BTW it is bad manners to call someone kid if you don't know about his age, just so you know.
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Rahul was flop in Eng series as well.Babar play for different country and has different role and he is doing that nicely .Rahul has not fulfilled his role in any format except t20.BTw I have already said sorry for my harsh words.Can say it again if you like.
 
DRsohail said:
Lolz,,,,I cannot help you in that regard,Play Rahul if he wins matches for you but I have to see him doing that for India.
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We have seen him winning matches that took place in some of the toughest pitches of this decade.
 
BreadPakoda said:
In tests, it would be sheer stupidity to play KL Rahul over players like Agarwal and Prithvi. So I hope that Rahul never plays tests for us again. Thank you for your services and thank you for flopping so bad in Oz that Agarwal was SOSed.
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Yeah. Already had more than enough chances in test cricket, failed 9/10 times. ODIs aren't proving to be any different. As has been mentioned multiple times, he is a mental midget and doesn't know what it takes to succeed at the highest level.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Have those matches taken place in parallel universe? Because on this earth they haven't occured yet. Come back when Babar does something to write home about else he will always be considered as poor man's Amla. Rahul, albeit inconsistent, is a match winner while Babar at his best can play nice second fiddle with better and more aggressive batsmen, like Hafiz or Harris for example.
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Playing second fiddle isn’t good enough to be a great batsman?
 
DRsohail said:
Rahul was flop in Eng series as well.Babar play for different country and has different role and he is doing that nicely .Rahul has not fulfilled his role in any format except t20.BTw I have already said sorry for my harsh words.Can say it again if you like.
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Yes Rahul is a flop despite scoring a flamboyant century in a dead rubber but Babar had a good season in SA because he played some shots against Steyn!! Matlab kuch bhi 😂
 
Hyperion66 said:
Yes Rahul is a flop despite scoring a flamboyant century in a dead rubber but Babar had a good season in SA because he played some shots against Steyn!! Matlab kuch bhi ��
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He scored in every match,Rahul in ??? You can see my first post here I said he is catching up,but you always give a superficial read.If he is that good stick with him,but I see him flopping in crucial matches of WC and costing India,where they should have gone with better bats as they have them back home,best of luck !
 
Mobashir said:
Playing second fiddle isn’t good enough to be a great batsman?
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Most if not all great batsmen played second fiddle at some point or the other, but playing only second fiddle knocks doesn't make one great. Now feel free to nitpick matches where Kohli played second fiddle to Rohit or SRT to Ganguly.

[MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] bhai^^
 
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Hyperion66 said:
Most if not all great batsmen played second fiddle at some point or the other, but playing only second fiddle knocks doesn't make one great. Now feel free to nitpick matches where Kohli played second fiddle to Rohit or SRT to Ganguly.

[MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] bhai^^
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I will take Rahul playing 2nd fiddle in this Indian batting line up but I do not see him doing that.Babar in Indian line up could have brilliantly played that role.
 
DRsohail said:
He scored in every match,Rahul in ??? You can see my first post here I said he is catching up,but you always give a superficial read.If he is that good stick with him,but I see him flopping in crucial matches of WC and costing India,where they should have gone with better bats as they have them back home,best of luck !
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No he doesn't score in every match, he is highly inconsistent despite being talented but when he scores we generally win. Can you say the same about Babar?
 
spiderreddy said:
Then say thinks like "not comparable","can't be put in same sentence" after an year #peace :wa
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At present no comparison,Babar beats him in every department and icc ranking is there to show yes.after one year we can come and may be compare if Rahul regains some form.But most probably he will be playing Ranji trophy and IpL only.
 
Hyperion66 said:
No he doesn't score in every match, he is highly inconsistent despite being talented but when he scores we generally win. Can you say the same about Babar?
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yes when babar scores we win ,when he does not score we ccant even post 200.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Most if not all great batsmen played second fiddle at some point or the other, but playing only second fiddle knocks doesn't make one great. Now feel free to nitpick matches where Kohli played second fiddle to Rohit or SRT to Ganguly.

[MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] bhai^^
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Ok; so now you can be great by playing second fiddle but not all the time.
Can you please clarify, is there any percentage of innings in witch you can play second fiddle.
 
Hyperion66 said:
No he doesn't score in every match, he is highly inconsistent despite being talented but when he scores we generally win. Can you say the same about Babar?
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2 60+ scores for Babar resulted in 2 wins against England and SA in the World Cup.

But you seem to be lacking basic logic skills; when Rahul doesn’t score or even doesb’t Play India still wins.
It’s just that India is a good team and they often win.
On the other hand, Pakistani team is quite average so we rarely wins.
 
Mobashir said:
Ok; so now you can be great by playing second fiddle but not all the time.
Can you please clarify, is there any percentage of innings in witch you can play second fiddle.
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What are you talking about? Yes great players can play supporting role some times depending on the circumstances, but one can't be considered great for solely playing Robin to someone else's batman. I hope you understand now.
 
Mobashir said:
2 60+ scores for Babar resulted in 2 wins against England and SA in the World Cup.

But you seem to be lacking basic logic skills; when Rahul doesn’t score or even doesb’t Play India still wins.
It’s just that India is a good team and they often win.
On the other hand, Pakistani team is quite average so we rarely wins.
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Good luck with the discussion now,you have to face it now.I am logging out ,lolz.
 
Mobashir said:
2 60+ scores for Babar resulted in 2 wins against England and SA in the World Cup.

But you seem to be lacking basic logic skills; when Rahul doesn’t score or even doesb’t Play India still wins.
It’s just that India is a good team and they often win.
On the other hand, Pakistani team is quite average so we rarely wins.
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Of course your team is average and Babar is a low impact player but still the way you guys hype Babar up one could end up thinking he is doing wonders for your team. A great in a not so great line up can still win some matches on his own. Sachin (pre Ganguly era), Lara, Andy Flower all did that. My point is Babar isn't that good to begin with, at best he can become like MD Yousuf which is still great BTW.

I am trying to Water it down as much as can, let me know I'd you still can't grasp it.
 
Hyperion66 said:
Of course your team is average and Babar is a low impact player but still the way you guys hype Babar up one could end up thinking he is doing wonders for your team. A great in a not so great line up can still win some matches on his own. Sachin (pre Ganguly era), Lara, Andy Flower all did that. My point is Babar isn't that good to begin with, at best he can become like MD Yousuf which is still great BTW.

I am trying to Water it down as much as can, let me know I'd you still can't grasp it.
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Who is hyped more? Babar or KL Rahul/Pandya? Who actually performs better for his side? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
And India wins even when KL Rahul doesn't score. :inti
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That's because we are a good team, but we are talking about merit of two individuals here, I have no problem admitting that on current form Babar looks to be a better ODI player, but in tests he hasn't done much at all to deserve all the hype and I could care less about t20s.
 
Hyperion66 said:
That's because we are a good team, but we are talking about merit of two individuals here, I have no problem admitting that on current form Babar looks to be a better ODI player, but in tests he hasn't done much at all to deserve all the hype and I could care less about t20s.
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care less about t20I because babar is ahead? BTW you kept on posting his t20I stats a while ago? if you take t20I out then your Rahul has nothing to show.
 
DRsohail said:
care less about t20I because babar is ahead? BTW you kept on posting his t20I stats a while ago? if you take t20I out then your Rahul has nothing to show.
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It doesn't suit his agenda. Some people are clueless prime examples are some of the above.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Who is hyped more? Babar or KL Rahul/Pandya? Who actually performs better for his side? :inti
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Pandya won matches for India in all three formats despite not so consistent, you can't take that away from him. Babar for all his hype has done jack in that regard. Now you can hail consistent individual performances but I rate impact knocks and match winning abilities more, so we can agree to disagree on that front I suppose.

Btw in a fair world they wouldn't be compared with each other, plays entirely different roles for their respective teams.

About Rahul, I am still hopeful he will turn this around, underachieved big time despite the hype, no doubt about that.
 
DRsohail said:
But he scored 5 centuries....India have good that I do not know why they keep on this show off guy in the team.
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5 centuries in about 5 years. Not good enough for us. Agarwal's 70 in Oz was more valuable than Rahul's dead rubber century in England.
 
MP2011 said:
Yeah. Already had more than enough chances in test cricket, failed 9/10 times. ODIs aren't proving to be any different. As has been mentioned multiple times, he is a mental midget and doesn't know what it takes to succeed at the highest level.
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Agree that he has been given a lot of opportunities. 4-5 years are enough to prove your mettle in any format of the game. It's time to give chance to the new crop of players waiting for their turn.
 
That said, Babar isn't fulfilling the potential he has. I will still take him over KL Rahul in ODIs every time.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Totally. KL is becoming a burden.
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Not only his poor S/r, the way he chucks away his wicket after consuming so many deliveries, is proving that he is a liability for the team, after all. Still can't get over how casually he tried to catch Shadab (?) in that Ind-Pak game and failed miserably while doing so.

Only goes to show how carelessly he takes his cricket.
 
Its clear Babar is ahead at this moment, It could be only because Rahul has not got the chances etc though
 
Mean&Green said:
This is my reply for the previous post you quoted me in and this as well babar number 1 t20 international batsman.

Rahul is a IPL basher.

Babar miles ahead in Odis and always will be.

Rahul won’t ever come close and will be dropped sooner or later.


Tests Babar will be always better as well because he is already a one of the best odi bats going around.

Rahul doesn’t have interest in test cricket and he likes his instagram followers more so I don’t see him being in the test side if he continues his odi performance.

This must seem a very weird response from me you may think but like I said some kl rahul cannot be mentioned in the same sentence as.

Babar Azam.
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Good ODI players need not be good test players. Rohit Sharma is the biggest example. To me, Babar bats like a timid person and that is the reason he always bottled for you whenever the pressure was on. Such players rarely make it in Test cricket.
 
MP2011 said:
Not only his poor S/r, the way he chucks away his wicket after consuming so many deliveries, is proving that he is a liability for the team, after all. Still can't get over how casually he tried to catch Shadab (?) in that Ind-Pak game and failed miserably while doing so.

Only goes to show how carelessly he takes his cricket.
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Lol. Did you even watch the full match? Rahul was flying around to save boundaries in that match before the rain. Even in the Australian match. He is one of our best fielders.
 
Babar’s consistency must be appreciated. He doesn’t get out to single digits often. KL Rahul is opposite of consistency
 
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At this point Babar consistently scores runs and Rahul does not. Even worse Rahul tries to play an IPLesque shot out of nowhere every now and then and gets himself out after settling down. He does show glimpses of his ability and timing but clearly lacks focus and tenacity to build an innings through a difficult period. I think his mind is not at the right place which prompts him to behave in that way frequently. At this point he is basically a better version of Karthik who had loads of potential since u19 days but failed to fulfill it due to mental issues.
Now Rahul may learn that art of batting long very soon but until that happens it's Babar all the way.

Babar has good technique and consistently scores a 50-60 at a good strike rate. What else do you want? Between the two types I will anyday pick somebody who is consistent and gives you runs irrespective of whether he has flamboyance or not, as then you can put your plans accordingly. It's difficult at this moment to plan with Rahul as you never know what will come your way.
 
Rahul is a strange case. He has been good in tests and excellent in T20s but average to bad in ODIs.

You will seldom see batsmen who are good in tests and T20s but bad in ODIs.
 
LOL at some Indians still comparing Rahul to Babar. Rahul cannot even polish the shoes of the guy who polishes Babar's shoes. Pathetic batsman.
 
Currently Babar is ahead due to his exploits in LOIs.. GIve them an year and it will be very clear. Rahul might fade away as he has lots of competition and very less leeway for failures. He also seems to be very confused about his role in the team
 
In a high-pressure game against Pak, Rahul gave us a solid start after suddenly was made to open the innings and in the very same match, Babar flopped. If we reversed their roles, Rahul would've contributed in a much better way to Pakistan's innings. This is the limitations of Babar, who could never hope to reach the level of talented player like Rahul.
 
Balthazar said:
In a high-pressure game against Pak, Rahul gave us a solid start after suddenly was made to open the innings and in the very same match, Babar flopped. If we reversed their roles, Rahul would've contributed in a much better way to Pakistan's innings. This is the limitations of Babar, who could never hope to reach the level of talented player like Rahul.
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:)))

Rahul was himself struggling to score before shadab gave him freebies.
We were already out of the game when babar came to bat anyways.
 
With this innings Babar has left Lokesh behind by some distance in odis. Lokesh is still better in tests though.
 
Hyperion66 said:
With this innings Babar has left Lokesh behind by some distance in odis. Lokesh is still better in tests though.
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You are saying there was a comparisom between Rahul and Babar in ODIs before this innings?
 
Hyperion66 said:
Now don't get too arrogant, not like Babar was winning matches for fun before today.
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Not getting arrogant.

Not while chasing but while batting first babar was winning Pakistan games with his 100s. What has rahul done in either chasing or batting first in ODIs?
 
Mean&Green said:
Saxena Saab you know it maybe not that statement but the comparison is just ridiculous
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Yes, babar is way ahead in odis,
He is improving in tests while kl is regressing
T20 is the only format where i"ll take kl.

If kl doesn't perform in the remaining matches he will be booted out of indian team.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Yes, babar is way ahead in odis,
He is improving in tests while kl is regressing
T20 is the only format where i"ll take kl.

If kl doesn't perform in the remaining matches he will be booted out of indian team.
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Saxena Saab Indians don’t care about t20s remember and you know looking at the way kl plays and his attitude he wouldn’t even want to play test matches if he’s not playing Odis he’s that type of guy. I thought this guy was humble but he’s actually full of it this reporter asked him a question describe yourself in one word and he’s like LEGEND lol. He has all the potential to be an amazing batsman but he’s more into the glitter and glamour someone who cares about Instagram followers more than his batting can never really be a great batsman.
 
Mike Hussey on post-match show on Cricinfo commented on Babar breaking into the top echelon of batsmen in world cricket soon enough. Babar is very close to being the third highest U25 aged scorer in a WC (probably second highest too if he stretches himself).

While on the other hand, KL Rahul might find himself out of the Indian team soon.

Go figure.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Babar is much closer to KW now. KL Rahul is closer to Imam may be.
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Imam is ahead. He has a MoTS performance against South Africa in South Africa. A superlative 150 odd against England in 2019.

SR is an issue, but KL Rahul is not uprooting any trees with a SR of 80 in this tournament either.
 
Guys why are we comparing Babar with Kohli, Rahul, etc. He is Babar and hopefully in time will be one of the best batsman Paksitan produced. Let's leave it at this.....
 
Usman Chadda said:
Imam is ahead. He has a MoTS performance against South Africa in South Africa. A superlative 150 odd against England in 2019.

SR is an issue, but KL Rahul is not uprooting any trees with a SR of 80 in this tournament either.
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KL Rahul's strike rate is nothing to do with his inability. Just the mindset. KL Rahul at his best is as good as Rohit sharma at his best. KL Rahul can be an absolute beast in his top gear.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
KL Rahul's strike rate is nothing to do with his inability. Just the mindset. KL Rahul at his best is as good as Rohit sharma at his best. KL Rahul can be an absolute beast in his top gear.
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These 'can be's can go to trash bin at the moment. Babar is so far ahead of this mental midget that it isn't even funny anymore.
 
MP2011 said:
These 'can be's can go to trash bin at the moment. Babar is so far ahead of this mental midget that it isn't even funny anymore.
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Not trashbin. He has done it in T20. In England against England with a scintillating 100 only last year. I am comparing him with Imam not Babar who is more organized to be compared with KL Rahul.
 
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