Balochistan standoff ends after all Jaffar Express hostages rescued [Update@ Post#579]

[Slim]

Aye to the in 48,65, 71 ,99 ?? What was the end result ?

So stick to current mess created by Pakistan army instead blaming india .

Train hijacking is embarassing for any nations. Focus on that

I dont really feel like giving you a history lesson but 1948 we gained Azad Kashmir. Thats more than enough.

And no it wont be a war, we will support the freedom fighters in Kashmir like we should!

 

[Hikaru]

I know you indians are thoroughly enjoying this, i can see the jubilation on social media. Dont worry, after we are done with Afghanis and your sponsored parasites. We will come after you too!

I dont really feel like giving you a history lesson but 1948 we gained Azad Kashmir. Thats more than enough.

And no it wont be a war, we will support the freedom fighters in Kashmir like we should!

There is nothing you will do Slim, there is nothing you can do. You will continue to act tough online for another 10 years before age catches up and the fire extinguishes. Jazbati keyboard warriors are the saddest bunch of people online.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

The kind of media blackout of this ongoing event shows the firm grip of Pak establishment on news coming out.

As per some reports: about 180 hostages, all of them military personnel , while they let women , children and Baloch people go free. An attack specifically on Pak military.

 

[Devadwal]

The kind of media blackout of this ongoing event shows the firm grip of Pak Army on news coming out.
Pakistani news channel coverage is at the level of coverage by Al Jazeera as if its happening in some foreign land.

As per some reports: about 180 hostages, all of them military personnel , while they let women , children and Baloch people go free. An attack specifically on Pak military.

Pakistan Media is controlled by Pakistan establishment so they can't do anything.

 

[Slim]

There is nothing you will do Slim, there is nothing you can do. You will continue to act tough online for another 10 years before age catches up and the fire extinguishes. Jazbati keyboard warriors are the saddest bunch of people online.

I saw how jazbati you were after the CT win. I was observing the snide remarks. If you still have the fire, mine which only raises in certain situations, will probably not die for the things that matter to me.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Pakistan Media is controlled by Pakistan establishment so they can't do anything.

Even a commentary on the media coverage seems to be sensitive a topic here

 

[JaDed]

The terrorists taking hostage of about 100 people to get what? No country will negotiate with terrorists on their own land.
Waste of life and resources. The media blackout by Pak is remarkable though, clearly Pak is in a weird martial law.

Annoying that Indian media has pounced on this news, both countries are absolutely disgusting this way.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

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Someone is lying

Probably the terrorists given who they are sponsored by. But unfortunately Pakistan army has lost trust of it's people as well so until there is verification hard to make an impartial judgement.

 

[Mr.Q]

Here’s a simplified version for those fellow Indians who are unaware of the whole story:


a) Although Pakistan has four provinces and diverse ethnicities, it is essentially controlled and governed by Punjabis, in every field (including cricket), at every level.


b) Most of the PPers are Punjabis, so expect some of them to do all kinds of gymnastics to downplay point a).


c) If you look beyond their major cities, the condition of provinces other than Punjab is pathetic, including Sindh.


d) Balochistan is the most resource rich province of the country but ironically also the most backward. They don’t even have proper access to the resources mined from their own backyard.


e) Extremely rugged terrain and arid landscapes don’t help its case and there are villages in the province where a road is the tracks left in the mud by trucks supplying essentials. They don’t know of a world outside their little hamlets.


f) The situation is very delicate and the whole thing has been managed for decades using religion, tribal divisions and when those tactics don’t work, brute force.


g) In this information era, more and more people are realising they have been mercilessly exploited, and are trying to unite and retaliate.


h) These problems are not isolated to Balochistan. KPK is in a similar situation. Sindh too, but it’s at a less problematic stage. Needless to say the situation looks very dangerous for Pakistan. It is both saddening and infuriating at the same time.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Stop entertaining the indians, genius. They laugh at you while you foolishly explain stuff to them. You think they dont know that?

why would i laugh at @Major. He is generally level headed and has good on the ground knowledge of Pakistan. Even if he does not like India, he is usually ready for a debate based on facts rather than emotions

 

[Major]

Here’s a simplified version for those fellow Indians who are unaware of the whole story:


a) Although Pakistan has four provinces and diverse ethnicities, it is essentially controlled and governed by Punjabis, in every field (including cricket), at every level.


b) Most of the PPers are Punjabis, so expect some of them to do all kinds of gymnastics to downplay point a).


c) If you look beyond their major cities, the condition of provinces other than Punjab is pathetic, including Sindh.


d) Balochistan is the most resource rich province of the country but ironically also the most backward. They don’t even have proper access to the resources mined from their own backyard.


e) Extremely rugged terrain and arid landscapes don’t help its case and there are villages in the province where a road is the tracks left in the mud by trucks supplying essentials. They don’t know of a world outside their little hamlets.


f) The situation is very delicate and the whole thing has been managed for decades using religion, tribal divisions and when those tactics don’t work, brute force.


g) In this information era, more and more people are realising they have been mercilessly exploited, and are trying to unite and retaliate.


h) These problems are not isolated to Balochistan. KPK is in a similar situation. Sindh too, but it’s at a less problematic stage. Needless to say the situation looks very dangerous for Pakistan. It is both saddening and infuriating at the same time.

Yes Punjabis are running KPK and Sindh

 

[sweep_shot]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi rajiun.

These BLA terrorists are getting more and more daring. They have the audacity to do terrorism in the holy month of Ramadan.

 

[SportsWarrior]

The terrorists taking hostage of about 100 people to get what? No country will negotiate with terrorists on their own land.
Waste of life and resources. The media blackout by Pak is remarkable though, clearly Pak is in a weird martial law.

Annoying that Indian media has pounced on this news, both countries are absolutely disgusting this way.

what is annoying about Indian media reporting a newsworthy news? Most of what is being is same as what is being reported everywhere else. Actually Indian media is softer. Here is timesofindia reporting 35 people being taken hostage

Pakistan Train Hijack LIVE Updates: Pakistan police say gunmen took 35 hostages in train attack, 350 passengers safe - The Times of India

A major security crisis unfolded in Pakistan’s southwestern Balochistan province on Tuesday when separatist militants attacked the Jaffar Express, a

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

whereas international media talking about 450 hostages

At least 450 taken hostage in Pakistan train attack

At least 450 people were taken hostage and six military personnel were killed when the Balochistan Liberation Army attacked a train in Pakistan.

abcnews.go.com

here is other international media reporting similar to Indian ones

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/firing-passenger-train-pakistan-tv-channels-report-2025-03-11/

Dozens of train passengers taken hostage in attack by Baloch separatists in Pakistan

Civilians have released from the train in Balochistan, militants claim, while military personnel are being held hostage

www.independent.co.uk

Gunmen hijack train in Pakistan’s Balochistan, take hundreds hostage

Balochistan Liberation Army claims responsibility for attack on train travelling from Quetta to Peshawar.

www.aljazeera.com

Pakistan militants attack train and take passengers hostage

Police say at least three people were injured in the attack and it is unclear how many people are being held hostage.

www.bbc.com

Indian media reporting has been as neutral as any reputed source like reuters, bbc, etc.

 

[saimayubera]

I know you indians are thoroughly enjoying this, i can see the jubilation on social media. Dont worry, after we are done with Afghanis and your sponsored parasites. We will come after you too!

Hehehehe. Not commenting on cricket threads?

 

[saimayubera]

I dont really feel like giving you a history lesson but 1948 we gained Azad Kashmir. Thats more than enough.

And no it wont be a war, we will support the freedom fighters in Kashmir like we should!

For a country whose name has the K of Kashmir, I think that's a lot less.

I mean Azad Kashmir isn't even Kashmir. Kashmir valley is fully in India. Azad Kashmir is Jammu.

And which freedom fighters will you support? They are all dead, in jail or joined politics.

2019 Article 370 revoked, split into a state. Elections have been held. A new railway is being inaugurated this month.

I enjoyed eating wazwan in srinagar and skiing in Gulmarg last year.

Maybe have a minute of silence a day every year?

 

[saimayubera]

On a serious note, I think the Americans are funding the BLA now to target the Chinese cause they have seriously ramped up in capabilities in the past few years.

It was much low-key for many years.

 

[saimayubera]

There is an Indian movie KILL with a similar premise. Pakistan should also send a similar commando.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

what is annoying about Indian media reporting a newsworthy news? Most of what is being is same as what is being reported everywhere else. Actually Indian media is softer. Here is timesofindia reporting 35 people being taken hostage

Pakistan Train Hijack LIVE Updates: Pakistan police say gunmen took 35 hostages in train attack, 350 passengers safe - The Times of India

A major security crisis unfolded in Pakistan’s southwestern Balochistan province on Tuesday when separatist militants attacked the Jaffar Express, a

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

whereas international media talking about 450 hostages

At least 450 taken hostage in Pakistan train attack

At least 450 people were taken hostage and six military personnel were killed when the Balochistan Liberation Army attacked a train in Pakistan.

abcnews.go.com

here is other international media reporting similar to Indian ones

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/firing-passenger-train-pakistan-tv-channels-report-2025-03-11/

Dozens of train passengers taken hostage in attack by Baloch separatists in Pakistan

Civilians have released from the train in Balochistan, militants claim, while military personnel are being held hostage

www.independent.co.uk

Gunmen hijack train in Pakistan’s Balochistan, take hundreds hostage

Balochistan Liberation Army claims responsibility for attack on train travelling from Quetta to Peshawar.

www.aljazeera.com

Pakistan militants attack train and take passengers hostage

Police say at least three people were injured in the attack and it is unclear how many people are being held hostage.

www.bbc.com

Indian media reporting has been as neutral as any reputed source like reuters, bbc, etc.

None of those reports are confirming anything, they are just conveying the terrorist claims. I doubt we will have confirmation on any of them until much later.

 

[SportsWarrior]

I know you indians are thoroughly enjoying this, i can see the jubilation on social media. Dont worry, after we are done with Afghanis and your sponsored parasites. We will come after you too!

no one has been done with Afghans for centuries, not England, not Russia, Not USA. I don't think Pakistan will do what others couldn't. But we will see..

and about coming after us, you are free to do it anytime. But i suggest get your house in order first so that you will have some chance of competing.

 

[SportsWarrior]

None of those reports are confirming anything, they are just conveying the terrorist claims. I doubt we will have confirmation on any of them until much later.

yes, they are all just covering newsworthy news. There are videos out there if you want to see the actual footages on the ground. I was just pointing out that Indian media coverage is very similar to any other reputed media coverage. There is no smear campaign going on as insinuated by a particular poster here.

 

[Major]

On a serious note, I think the Americans are funding the BLA now to target the Chinese cause they have seriously ramped up in capabilities in the past few years.

It was much low-key for many years.

There is no proof of US funding BLA, however there is proof of India funding BLA.

 

[Major]

There is an Indian movie KILL with a similar premise. Pakistan should also send a similar commando.

Interesting, how people can find humor in the deaths of Pakistanis.

 

[saimayubera]

There is no proof of US funding BLA, however there is proof of India funding BLA.

There might be and I am not denying it. That is what intelligence agencies do.

But such an increase in capabilities?

Has RAW become that good?

BLA was always more of an irritant compared to how they have become recently.

Tbh, there have been a lot of "unknown gunmen" killings in Pakistan so who knows? Maybe RAW has increased it's capabilities.

 

[saimayubera]

Interesting, how people can find humor in the deaths of Pakistanis.

Those guys let all the civilians go. And have only held the soldiers.

 

[SportsWarrior]

There is no proof of US funding BLA, however there is proof of India funding BLA.

i am sure India is diddling a bit there, but i sincerely doubt we have the capability to support this big of an operation. This kind of ramp up also not required from Indian side now as there is nothing brewing at the border. If India wants to meddle in Baluchistan, which i am sure they want to as a counter strategy to Pakistan's meddling in Kashmir, they will want to keep it low profile and small needling once in a while to keep the pot boiling. This is a big operation which will get everyone in the world to take notice and India has nothing to gain from that as India is not trying to make the issue global.

 

[LordJames]

Absolutely despicable and condemnation action by Terrorists.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

yes, they are all just covering newsworthy news. There are videos out there if you want to see the actual footages on the ground. I was just pointing out that Indian media coverage is very similar to any other reputed media coverage. There is no smear campaign going on as insinuated by a particular poster here.

Indians are covertly funding the BLA, that means their news reports also will be subject to that bias. I am not saying they are reporting truthfully or not, I just would rather verify facts from other less invested sources.

 

[Major]

There might be and I am not denying it. That is what intelligence agencies do.

But such an increase in capabilities?

Has RAW become that good?

BLA was always more of an irritant compared to how they have become recently.

Tbh, there have been a lot of "unknown gunmen" killings in Pakistan so who knows? Maybe RAW has increased it's capabilities.

BLA needs weapons and money, which they get from India. Afghansitan was invovled till 2021, which is why Pakistan was involved in getting the govt in power removed from Afg as the Taliban and Balochis dont really have a relationship.

As for USA, USA has recognized BLA as a terrorist group, while India hasnt. Once USA deems a group as a terrorist group they cannot do funding since their congress would than intervene as USA is a democratic country and they need permission of their govt to give out money.

I dont know about RAW being good or not, but BLA commanders have gone to India for treatment.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Those guys let all the civilians go. And have only held the soldiers.

According to those guys...who happen to be terrorists.

 

[saimayubera]

i am sure India is diddling a bit there, but i sincerely doubt we have the capability to support this big of an operation. This kind of ramp up also not required from Indian side now as there is nothing brewing at the border. If India wants to meddle in Baluchistan, which i am sure they want to as a counter strategy to Pakistan's meddling in Kashmir, they will want to keep it low profile and small needling once in a while to keep the pot boiling. This is a big operation which will get everyone in the world to take notice and India has nothing to gain from that as India is not trying to make the issue global.

Exactly what I am saying.

This feels like "CIA spreading freedom" more than some RAW operation.

America is no ally of Pakistan now that the Taliban issue is over and they have no love lost for China.

 

[Major]

Indians are covertly funding the BLA, that means their news reports also will be subject to that bias. I am not saying they are reporting truthfully or not, I just would rather verify facts from other less invested sources.

THis is what really annoys. If Pakistan is involved in an attack in India, India is very loud about it.

Meanwhile when BLA does this through Indian funding. Our govt doesnt broadcast this point, and people carryon dancing to Bollywood songs in marriages and events.

 

[SportsWarrior]

There might be and I am not denying it. That is what intelligence agencies do.

But such an increase in capabilities?

Has RAW become that good?

BLA was always more of an irritant compared to how they have become recently.

Tbh, there have been a lot of "unknown gunmen" killings in Pakistan so who knows? Maybe RAW has increased it's capabilities.

yeah, i don' think RAW has such ability. More importantly i don't think it aligns with any of their objectives. India does not bring up Baluch issues in UN, or in any multi lateral body. What will India gain by making the issue noticed at the international levels? if RAW is involved, every major intelligence agency like CIA, five eyes will also know and there is nothing to be gained by the notability that comes with this kind of an attack.

On the other hand "Unknown gunmen" are most probably RAW hiring random paid killers to eliminate terrorists

 

[Major]

Those guys let all the civilians go. And have only held the soldiers.

No they have not. Pakistan does not move 400 soldiers at once.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Innocent lives at stake and a terrible situation but some usual suspects have to run their propaganda with their conspiracy theories to earn internet brownie points. Just shows how soulless some people can be. No empathy for the suffering of others, misery anywhere is just an opportunity for some garbage of humanity.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Indians are covertly funding the BLA, that means their news reports also will be subject to that bias. I am not saying they are reporting truthfully or not, I just would rather verify facts from other less invested sources.

i agree everyone should verify the news coming out any media. You should 100% do it. I got my news from ABC actually and then looked on Times and then on BBC and Reuters. Most were similar except ABC. That's all I pointed out.

 

[Major]

i am sure India is diddling a bit there, but i sincerely doubt we have the capability to support this big of an operation. This kind of ramp up also not required from Indian side now as there is nothing brewing at the border. If India wants to meddle in Baluchistan, which i am sure they want to as a counter strategy to Pakistan's meddling in Kashmir, they will want to keep it low profile and small needling once in a while to keep the pot boiling. This is a big operation which will get everyone in the world to take notice and India has nothing to gain from that as India is not trying to make the issue global.

India doesnt get involved directly by sending an India in to do a mission. This is a mistake that Pakistan did that cost us.

India does it discretly by providing weapons and funds and sponsoring healthcare of these guys.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

No they have not. Pakistan does not move 400 soldiers at once.

About 200 soldiers were heading back home in that train for Ramzan as per reports. Rest have been let go by the terrorists.

 

[LordJames]

i am sure India is diddling a bit there, but i sincerely doubt we have the capability to support this big of an operation. This kind of ramp up also not required from Indian side now as there is nothing brewing at the border. If India wants to meddle in Baluchistan, which i am sure they want to as a counter strategy to Pakistan's meddling in Kashmir, they will want to keep it low profile and small needling once in a while to keep the pot boiling. This is a big operation which will get everyone in the world to take notice and India has nothing to gain from that as India is not trying to make the issue global.

Pakistan has no strategic plan and no financial means to meddle anywhere! Doesn't matter whether India is behind it or CIA or Mossad or Afghanistan, its a complete and colossal intelligence failure by IB & ISI.

Lets deal with crisis and then there will be no Accountability and no report just like there has never been for others before, how did Terrorist cross secure cordon, enter military cantonment and bomb APS? Where is the disciplinary action to the Core Commander and his minions who allowed it to happen?

 

[SportsWarrior]

India doesnt get involved directly by sending an India in to do a mission. This is a mistake that Pakistan did that cost us.

India does it discretly by providing weapons and funds and sponsoring healthcare of these guys.

funds yeah, i can see how it can be done discretely. But providing weapons not easy as it has to be physically moved. I am sure healthcare and stuff like that is much easier to support.

again, i personally believe if India is involved, they have nothing to gain by supporting events that will make it in international news. India also is not strong or big enough to take panga with China. These same BLAs were attacking Chinese engineers and nationals. India would get into big trouble if they are involved.

So whatever support India may be providing is not really big enough to launch this kind of attacks as it does not align with either the objectives or the capabilities of RAW

 

[LordJames]

funds yeah, i can see how it can be done discretely. But providing weapons not easy as it has to be physically moved. I am sure healthcare and stuff like that is much easier to support.

again, i personally believe if India is involved, they have nothing to gain by supporting events that will make it in international news. India also is not strong or big enough to take panga with China. These same BLAs were attacking Chinese engineers and nationals. India would get into big trouble if they are involved.

So whatever support India may be providing is not really big enough to launch this kind of attacks as it does not align with either the objectives or the capabilities of RAW

India most likely provides funds, training and weapons but highly doubt that Healthcare of injured can be provided by India considering the distance, terrain and position of Baluchistan, unless you mean that (state of Iran) provides Healthcare to BLA at the behest of India

Is that what you mean? Do you have any evidence?

 

[saimayubera]

funds yeah, i can see how it can be done discretely. But providing weapons not easy as it has to be physically moved. I am sure healthcare and stuff like that is much easier to support.

again, i personally believe if India is involved, they have nothing to gain by supporting events that will make it in international news. India also is not strong or big enough to take panga with China. These same BLAs were attacking Chinese engineers and nationals. India would get into big trouble if they are involved.

So whatever support India may be providing is not really big enough to launch this kind of attacks as it does not align with either the objectives or the capabilities of RAW

This makes me think it's CIA.

India not gonna take direct panga with China. Few bomb blasts here and there, maybe yes - RAW is involved.

But won't ungli China.

 

[emranabbas]

Get your head out of the rear head of politics. 16 Afghan suicide bombers attacked Bannu Cantt just last week, khuda ka khauf karo. 16 SUICIDE BOMBERS?! This does not even count their supporting company. Hadh ho gayi, DV. Some of you UK Pakistanis are different gravy. Completely out of touch. No wonder Pakistanis have a pathetic average IQ.

Nobody is going to speak out against the Afghan terrorists who have illegally entered Pakistan and are living in KPK because they are relatives of their murshid Imran jahil Khan.

 

[Josh]

Who know who is meddling or not but this is a serious Hamas styled attack and this kinda attack can only happen when there is a serious ground resentment for Pakistani forces.

Instead of blaming foreign actors, Pakistani army should finally let civillian elected leaders lead the country and only civillian leaders will be able to cut the deal with Baloch representatives.

 

[Major]

India most likely provides funds, training and weapons but highly doubt that Healthcare of injured can be provided by India considering the distance, terrain and position of Baluchistan, unless you mean that (state of Iran) provides Healthcare to BLA at the behest of India

Is that what you mean? Do you have any evidence?

GT investigates: Evidences, sources prove India 'supports terrorism' in Pakistan's Balochistan - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

The Hindu article referred to BLA's militant commander who "was based in Delhi for at least six months in 2017," to receive "extensive treatment for kidney-related ailments."

 

[Major]

Nobody is going to speak out against the Afghan terrorists who have illegally entered Pakistan and are living in KPK because they are relatives of their murshid Imran jahil Khan.

Again, Afhganistan terrorism and Balochistan terrorism are two seperate things.

 

[LordJames]

It is a common tactic for supporters of the current regime to blame everything on 'Afghans'.

Pakistan has deep problems across ethnic lines - exacerbated by the negligence of the central government for many years.

Afghan effect is limited here.​

The first and most fundamental failure is of Pakistan Security Services who allowed such a large number of military and intelligence personnel travel without a security detail. In any post-event investigation that would be the first focus. The second focus would be on the response preparedness of the Pakistan Army. The third focus would be on the failure of the response to the Terrorist attack.

Same was true for APS attack. Terrorists crossed into Peshawar (high alert zone) then into Military cantonment, then into the school and dug in, see map:

In a Terrorist attack, the focus should be on the tactical failure, response preparedness and the results of the response.

Same for the 1971 war which led to the breakup of (original) Pakistan.

The discussions about India, CIA, Mossad, Afghanistan are all secondary but people are focusing on secondary issues for obvious reasons due to political agendas, affiliations and loyalties. The discussions on secondary issues allows the focus to be taken away from Asim Muneer, IB, ISI and the military.

At a strategic level, the Indian support to Terrorists in Baluchistan is a direct failure of ISI on two levels:
​

1. Intelligence failure (no warning of the attack)​
2. Broader failure in allowing Indians to operate​

But lets discuss "Imran Khan"
​

 

[SportsWarrior]

India most likely provides funds, training and weapons but highly doubt that Healthcare of injured can be provided by India considering the distance, terrain and position of Baluchistan, unless you mean that (state of Iran) provides Healthcare to BLA at the behest of India

Is that what you mean? Do you have any evidence?

evidence of India supporting BLA? i have none? that is why i speculated

 

[Major]

This news has been picked up now by international media.

Even unilad reported on this.

Wonder if this prove beneficial for Pakistan or BLA. Cause now the issue will get recognized

 

[LordJames]

GT investigates: Evidences, sources prove India 'supports terrorism' in Pakistan's Balochistan - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

The Hindu article referred to BLA's militant commander who "was based in Delhi for at least six months in 2017," to receive "extensive treatment for kidney-related ailments."

India is enemy of Pakistan and no doubt will support all actions against Pakistan.

But my post is about "healthcare" of injured BLA which cannot be logically supported by India but can be from Iran (at the behest of India), do you see the distinction which I am making?

India cannot support anything on the ground in Baluchistan without support from Iran, weapons, training camps, treatment of leaders in Indian hospitals (all possible of course).

Lets be calm, calculated and discuss whats going on in Baluchistan. BLA cannot get the local support unless the local population has a genuine grievance with the state of Pakistan (which they do).

The local support needs to be taken away to stop their ability to melt into the local population and it requires a political solution.

 

[Major]

India is enemy of Pakistan and no doubt will support all actions against Pakistan.

But my post is about "healthcare" of injured BLA which cannot be logically supported by India but can be from Iran (at the behest of India), do you see the distinction which I am making?

India cannot support anything on the ground in Baluchistan without support from Iran, weapons, training camps, treatment of leaders in Indian hospitals (all possible of course).

Lets be calm, calculated and discuss whats going on in Baluchistan. BLA cannot get the local support unless the local population has a genuine grievance with the state of Pakistan (which they do).

The local support needs to be taken away to take away their ability to melt into the local population and it requires a political solution.

India media itself has reported about the treatment.

I have shared you a link

What do you mean lets be calm? Indias support for BLA is know, why do you want to deny it.

Your own media has claimed the healthcare part, so your speculation doesnt mean anything

 

[LordJames]

India media itself has reported about the treatment.

I have shared you a link

evidence of India supporting BLA? i have none? that is why i speculated

Circumstantially, we can be pretty certain that India is supporting these activities in Baluchistan via weapons, training, Intelligence etc.

Let me rephrase what I am saying

"Active Healthcare of Injured" on the ground is not possible by India without active support from the state of Iran.

BLA leaders getting treatment in India isn't operational Healthcare. Indian Hospitals agreed to provide healthcare to Umar Shareef (different issue, I know) but I am very carefully talking about "Healthcare of injured operational BLA" which implicates (state of) Iran.

My own media...

 

[emranabbas]

Again, Afhganistan terrorism and Balochistan terrorism are two seperate things.

Nobody is saying it's the same company but all 3 are terrorists.

Afghan terrorists
Baloch terrorists
PTI terrorists

 

[LordJames]

Nobody is it's the same company but all 3 are terrorists.

Afghan terrorists
Baloch terrorists
PTI terrorists

So what should be done with Imran Khan and PTI?

Shoot them dead? drone attacks? Bombing runs by PAF?

How do you suggest to solve the "PTI Terrorism problem"?

 

[Major]

Nobody is it's the same company but all 3 are terrorists.

Afghan terrorists
Baloch terrorists
PTI terrorists

You can blame PTI for TTP/Afghan terrorist, infact i even do that. But you cant blame them for Baloch terrorists.

 

[Major]

Circumstantially, we can be pretty certain that India is supporting these activities in Baluchistan via weapons, training, Intelligence etc.

Let me rephrase what I am saying

"Active Healthcare of Injured" on the ground is not possible by India without active support from the state of Iran.

BLA leaders getting treatment in India isn't operational Healthcare. Indian Hospitals agreed to provide healthcare to Umar Shareef (different issue, I know) but I am very carefully talking about "Healthcare of injured operational BLA" which implicates (state of) Iran.

My own media...

Bhai, i have shared you a source of Indian media that has claimed that healthcare is being provided to BLA

The Hindu article referred to BLA's militant commander who "was based in Delhi for at least six months in 2017," to receive "extensive treatment for kidney-related ailments."

Unless Delhi is the capital of Iran

 

[Local.Dada]

This news has been picked up now by international media.

Even unilad reported on this.

Wonder if this prove beneficial for Pakistan or BLA. Cause now the issue will get recognized

Incidents in Pak or the matter of fact in India are not looked at that granularly by the international media yet. They probably will bucket this as act of religious jihad or extremism. That’s all.

 

[Major]

Incidents in Pak or the matter of fact in India are not looked at that granularly by the international media yet. They probably will bucket this as act of religious jihad or extremism. That’s all.

still it got picked up.
Train hijacking is a very big deal and that when 400 hostages have been taken.

 

[Local.Dada]

still it got picked up.
Train hijacking is a very big deal and that when 400 hostages have been taken.

Them reporting a news of an incident is not equal to taking interest in the Baloch freedom movement or local issues. As I said it will get attention as another big scale terrorist act and will just prepatuate stereotypes: not saying it is good. That’s what is happening and will happen.

 

[Major]

CNN has reported this on their main page.

 

[saimayubera]

TTP and BLA seem to have come back big time.

Had gone quiet around 2019. What happened?

Something to do with Irman Khan/PTI and the ouster?

 

[emranabbas]

You can blame PTI for TTP/Afghan terrorist, infact i even do that. But you cant blame them for Baloch terrorists.

I understand that they are 2 seperate groups
But both are enemies of Pakistan

 

[LordJames]

You can blame PTI for TTP/Afghan terrorist, infact i even do that. But you cant blame them for Baloch terrorists.

Operationally it is not possible for Pakistan Army to defend Baluchistan (44% of Pakistan) and it is not possible to fight protracted battle with TTP, they don't have the means and the resources. The Junior officers (major & below), NCO and JCO who generally pay with their blood on a daily basis are demoralized and don't have the heart.

There are active duty service members of Pakistan SSG who have defected to TTP and also defected to BLA and of course India provides arms, training, intelligence and other support to both of these (and 20+ other active Terrorist) organizations.

The 43 Intelligence organizations are weary, resource-less and fighting a losing battle against BLA, TTP and other 20 (active Terrorist organizations).

Under the circumstances there is no other choice but the following:

1. Focus on Terrorist organizations and intelligence gathering
2. Focus on laser-sharp Kinetic operations against Terrorist leadership. Hit them hard and keep hitting them!
3. Upgrade and ensure swift Judicial punishments for Terrorists and introduce safeguards to stop "common people being caught up in the net under the guise of Terrorism"
4. Engage local population in Baluchistan and KP to deny them the ability to melt into local population
5. Alleviate grievances of both people of Baluchistan and KP and include them into the state envelope
6. Quickly open channels with IEA (Taliban Afghanistan) and regain lost ground (to India) and engage diplomatically (foremost being patriotic religious channels inside Pakistan)
7. Engage with Iran and deny the ability of BLA to cross border into Iran and find safe havens

Pakistan Army has no ability to fight this and I am not saying it after listening to the likes of Adil Raja, Haider Mehdi and Wajahat Saeed Khan, I am saying it based on solid knowledge.

None of this can happen without a popular Government and even then it will take years to undo the damage inflicted by the Pakistan military. The popular Government will have to diplomatically engage with TTP, BLA and other 20 (active Terrorist organizations), no matter how abhorent this sounds.

Until then, "A son a day is the price Pakistan will pay" until its sons refuse to die for baseless, causeless, faceless COIN operations.

 

[saimayubera]

Operationally it is not possible for Pakistan Army to defend Baluchistan (44% of Pakistan) and it is not possible to fight protracted battle with TTP, they don't have the means and the resources. The Junior officers (major & below), NCO and JCO who generally pay with their blood on a daily basis are demoralized and don't have the heart.

There are active duty service members of Pakistan SSG who have defected to TTP and also defected to BLA and of course India provides arms, training, intelligence and other support to both of these (and 20+ other active Terrorist) organizations.

The 43 Intelligence organizations are weary, resource-less and fighting a losing battle against BLA, TTP and other 20 (active Terrorist organizations).

Under the circumstances there is no other choice but the following:

1. Focus on Terrorist organizations and intelligence gathering
2. Focus on laser-sharp Kinetic operations against Terrorist leadership. Hit them hard and keep hitting them!
3. Upgrade and ensure swift Judicial punishments for Terrorists and introduce safeguards to stop "common people being caught up in the net under the guise of Terrorism"
4. Engage local population in Baluchistan and KP to deny them the ability to melt into local population
5. Alleviate grievances of both people of Baluchistan and KP and include them into the state envelope
6. Quickly open channels with IEA (Taliban Afghanistan) and regain lost ground (to India) and engage diplomatically (foremost being patriotic religious channels inside Pakistan)
7. Engage with Iran and deny the ability of BLA to cross border into Iran and find safe havens

Pakistan Army has no ability to fight this and I am not saying it after listening to the likes of Adil Raja, Haider Mehdi and Wajahat Saeed Khan, I am saying it based on solid knowledge.

None of this can happen without a popular Government and even then it will take years to undo the damage inflicted by the Pakistan military. The popular Government will have to diplomatically engage with TTP, BLA and other 20 (active Terrorist organizations), no matter how abhorent this sounds.

Until then, "A son a day is the price Pakistan will pay" until its sons refuse to die for baseless, causeless, faceless COIN operations.

So you are saying that until there is a popular government, these attacks will only keep increasing and these groups will keep gaining more ground?

 

[msb314]

Lots of nonsense posted… but is the latest status of the hostages please?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Jaffar Express attack: 104 hostages rescued, 16 terrorists killed in security operation

Security forces have successfully rescued 104 hostages held by terrorists after an attack on Jaffar Express at Balochistan’s Bolan Pass, ARY News reported citing security sources.

Terrorists held hundreds of train passengers hostage after attacking the Jaffar Express.

Security forces have successfully rescued 104 hostages from terrorist captivity, including 58 men, 31 women, and 15 children, security sources said.

Security forces have killed 16 terrorists and injured many others, according to security officials, who added that the terrorists have suffered heavy losses in this operation and split into small groups.

17 injured passengers have been shifted to the nearby hospital while additional security squads are taking part in the operation in the area.

A group of terrorists launched the attack on the Peshawar-Quetta Jaffar Express, leaving the driver with severe injuries in the Bolan Pass area of Balochistan, targeting innocent civilians.

The terrorists stopped the train in a tunnel and took the passengers hostage, including women and children.

Jaffar Express attack: 104 hostages rescued, 16 terrorists killed in security operation

QUETTA: Security forces have successfully rescued 104 hostages held by terrorists after an attack on Jaffar Express at Balochistan's Bolan Pass, ARY News

arynews.tv

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yes Punjabis are running KPK and Sindh

Tbh his post is solid and Pak army ( that is running the whole country) is considered by some to be a Punjabi army.

 

[Major]

Tbh his post is solid and Pak army ( that is running the whole country) is considered by some to be a Punjabi army.

The punjab vs karachi debate is a thing of the past. Ever since the 18th amendment came this argument has died down.

 

[HalBass9]

Yes Punjabis are running KPK and Sindh

Pakistan.

 

[Mr.Q]

@Major that now deleted post proves my point doesn’t it? You know fully well who dominates the military, politics, bureaucracy, economy and media in Pakistan. But let’s move on since the focus is on Baluchistan.

@SportsWarrior @saimayubera @JaDed

There’s this narrative going around that the intention behind the hijacking was to foil some sort of planned operation by the army for which they were sending troops. It’s highly unusual for so many soldiers to be on a single train. 180 out 450 passengers. That’s definitely not normal.

 

[HalBass9]

If Punjabis were leading Pakistan toward prosperity, there likely wouldn't be as much criticism. However, historically, Punjabi Muslims have often been associated with those in power, which has sometimes led to perceptions of supporting oppression.

Regarding the Army leadership, Abdul Waheed Kakar stands out as a general who carried out his duties with integrity. He neither sought an extension nor manipulated political parties for personal gain.

As for the conflict in Balochistan, it is largely a result of Pakistan’s own policies. Unfortunately, the current leadership across various institutions does not appear to be adequately prepared or competent enough to address and resolve the issue effectively.

 

[Major]

@KB Im interested to know your views on the Punjabi debate going on in this thread

 

[cricketjoshila]

Strongly condemn this act pf terrorism.

 

[mazkhan]

@Major that now deleted post proves my point doesn’t it? You know fully well who dominates the military, politics, bureaucracy, economy and media in Pakistan. But let’s move on since the focus is on Baluchistan.

@SportsWarrior @saimayubera @JaDed

There’s this narrative going around that the intention behind the hijacking was to foil some sort of planned operation by the army for which they were sending troops. It’s highly unusual for so many soldiers to be on a single train. 180 out 450 passengers. That’s definitely not normal.

It is normal because a lot of these soldiers uses buses and trains when they are given holidays .

But again it's a failure on the behalf of the local goverment and intelligence agencies.

But my hunch is locals tip off the militants where to strike .
Someone must have told those militants that there are 100s of soldiers on the train

 

[Major]

Strongly condemn this act pf terrorism.

do you condemn the act of your country funding the BLA?

 

[LordJames]

@Major that now deleted post proves my point doesn’t it? You know fully well who dominates the military, politics, bureaucracy, economy and media in Pakistan. But let’s move on since the focus is on Baluchistan.

@SportsWarrior @saimayubera @JaDed

There’s this narrative going around that the intention behind the hijacking was to foil some sort of planned operation by the army for which they were sending troops. It’s highly unusual for so many soldiers to be on a single train. 180 out 450 passengers. That’s definitely not normal.

I reported the post about "Punjabi and chicken blood" because it was in poor taste and I am not Punjabi and have nothing to do with Punjab.

I will similarly report ridiculous posts about blood and violence about Hindus or anyone else.

Having said, lets talk about stats:

1. 1 of the 2 Generals of Pak Army is Punjabi (other is Sindhi)
2. 80% of Lieutenant Generals are Paunjabees

The share of population for Punjabees in Pakistan is 25% so I can see why someone thinks that but the bigger issue is a General, 3 Lieutenant Generals and 3 Major Generals from OTS (instead of PMA) because Asim Muneer is promoting his own loyalists and its a bigger issue than Punjabees.

 

[cricketjoshila]

do you condemn the act of your country funding the BLA?

My country isn't funding the bla. Bla leaders live in European countries.

Logistically impossible for India to help bla.

 

[Major]

My country isn't funding the bla. Bla leaders live in European countries.

Logistically impossible for India to help bla.

The Hindu article referred to BLA's militant commander who "was based in Delhi for at least six months in 2017," to receive "extensive treatment for kidney-related ailments."

GT investigates: Evidences, sources prove India 'supports terrorism' in Pakistan's Balochistan - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

So what is this than?

 

[Major]

My country isn't funding the bla. Bla leaders live in European countries.

Logistically impossible for India to help bla.

Also why doesn India list BLA as a terrorist group.

Dont show your crocodile tears here if you cant accept your country's involvement.

 

[sweep_shot]

Also why doesn India list BLA as a terrorist group.

Dont show your crocodile tears here if you cant accept your country's involvement.

I have always wondered it too.

Why don't India declare BLA as a terror group, unless they themselves are funding it?

 

[Devadwal]

Jaffar Express attack: 104 hostages rescued, 16 terrorists killed in security operation

Security forces have successfully rescued 104 hostages held by terrorists after an attack on Jaffar Express at Balochistan’s Bolan Pass, ARY News reported citing security sources.

Terrorists held hundreds of train passengers hostage after attacking the Jaffar Express.

Security forces have successfully rescued 104 hostages from terrorist captivity, including 58 men, 31 women, and 15 children, security sources said.

Security forces have killed 16 terrorists and injured many others, according to security officials, who added that the terrorists have suffered heavy losses in this operation and split into small groups.

17 injured passengers have been shifted to the nearby hospital while additional security squads are taking part in the operation in the area.

A group of terrorists launched the attack on the Peshawar-Quetta Jaffar Express, leaving the driver with severe injuries in the Bolan Pass area of Balochistan, targeting innocent civilians.

The terrorists stopped the train in a tunnel and took the passengers hostage, including women and children.

Jaffar Express attack: 104 hostages rescued, 16 terrorists killed in security operation

QUETTA: Security forces have successfully rescued 104 hostages held by terrorists after an attack on Jaffar Express at Balochistan's Bolan Pass, ARY News

arynews.tv

False reporting as usually by Pakistan media. Those hostage were released by BLA itself

This is 2025 and everything is on social media so you can't lie