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Bangladesh [330/6] beat South Africa [309/8] by 21 runs in the group stage of the 2019 World Cup

This is not the top drawer SA team. They sure can win matches. But on paper nowhere near the past SA teams. So Shakib should not call this as upset. If anything BD are more experienced than them.
 
Well done boys well done..great performance..I'm hoping they beat a few more teams..great stuff..
 
Well done by the 2nd best Asian Team! Congratulations! Good to see no nagin dances and their celebrations are subdued too. That's what happens when winning becomes a habit! BD played like a true 2nd best Asian team!
 
Would be hilarious if BD have a 11-0 run in the WC
 
Tyler Durden said:
Well done by the 2nd best Asian Team! Congratulations! Good to see no nagin dances and their celebrations are subdued too. That's what happens when winning becomes a habit! BD played like a true 2nd best Asian team!
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They might be the best ;)
Our team might just totally flop this time with old age uncles in the side :facepalm:
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Listen. I have nothing against Bangladesh.
Unbiased fans (bookies) had SA as favourites at the innings break. So i was being realistic
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Even a lot of cricket experts claims that Bangladesh will win only one match(baz), that bd will score only 207 today(gautam bhimani), SA will chase in 45 overs (uthappa)
 
Syed1 said:
Pathetic absolute pathetic post.


Had Inzi the revolutionary picked a spinner and captain not played him we would have blamed Sarfaraz. It's funny Sarfaraz is to be blamed for not "asking" for a spinner but Inzi cannot be blamed for not picking a spinner in the first place.


Turning into British version of Mamoon.



You can blame Sarf for captaincy, keeping or batting, but to blame him for nonselection of players is absolute garbage.
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Inzamam gave Sarfraz Yasir Shah, Mohammed Asghar and Bilal Asif for Sri Lanka Test series in 2017.

However Asian Clive Lloyd thought pace is pace yaar and played 3 quicks on dead UAE tracks.

As a result we kissed our UAE unbeaten streak goodbye.

Also, Sarfraz insisted on Mohammed Hasnain and Wahab Riaz for this World Cup. So let's not pretend he has no say over selection.
 
Outstanding performance from Bangladesh in all departments.

They've professionalised their game and the rewards are now becoming evident.

Unlike us, their senior players have delivered on the big stage and led from the front.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
They might be the best ;)
Our team might just totally flop this time with old age uncles in the side :facepalm:
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Give us kohli and bumrah and we will bring the world cup. Kohli will bat at number 5 instead of sensational superstar Mohammad Mithun and finish off matches
 
Markhor said:
Inzamam gave Sarfraz Yasir Shah, Mohammed Asghar and Bilal Asif for Sri Lanka Test series in 2017.

However Asian Clive Lloyd thought pace is pace yaar and played 3 quicks on dead UAE tracks.

As a result we kissed our UAE unbeaten streak goodbye.

Also, Sarfraz insisted on Mohammed Hasnain and Wahab Riaz for this World Cup. So let's not pretend he has no say over selection.
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Hahah you lost the argument when you had to bring in some random test series from 2017 to defend Inzimam.


I guess when one has a favourite they can never be wrong and it is always everybody else's fault.
 
WHen a guy like Steyn gets injured won't they have a back up. Now they have lost 2 of their best bowlers. Ngidi and Steyn. What are they going to do? Morris is such a liability with ball. Bowled absolute pies.
 
Syed1 said:
Hahah you lost the argument when you had to bring in some random test series from 2017 to defend Inzimam.


I guess when one has a favourite they can never be wrong and it is always everybody else's fault.
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Sarfaraz is at fault, this is HIS team.
 
"No, no, don't be fooled - this is no upset. This is yet another confirmation of a minnow turning bully, bullying a side who's a little too used to being bullied come the World Cup. The Bangladeshis know this, with just a bear hug from Shakib to Mashrafe, with the others only indulging in handshakes. It was THAT clinical"

Cricbuzz sums it up well. Those who try to mock us about post win celebrations look at this.
 
Syed1 said:
Hahah you lost the argument when you had to bring in some random test series from 2017 to defend Inzimam.


I guess when one has a favourite they can never be wrong and it is always everybody else's fault.
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You said Inzamam is to blame for not giving Sarfraz spinners to work with. But in that series Inzamam GAVE Sarfraz not one but THREE spinners but Asian Clive Lloyd thought to play three quicks on dead UAE tracks and thus lost our unbeaten streak.

Only a captain without brain would play just one specialist spinner in UAE. But that would be Sarfraz.

Also I note no comment on Sarfraz demanding unproven kid with barely any List A experience in Hasnain and TTF Wahab in the WC squad.

Sarfraz should sit down and take lessons from Mortaza and how he has beaten SAF using two spinners in Miraz and Shakib. You need to take pace off the ball on these flat pitches. However if Sarfraz was actually devoted to his cricket he wouldn't be carrying a 2nd Trimester stomach.
 
Tamim needs to practice hard and if he is half for we shouldn’t include him. We can open with Liton :sachin
 
Mainul said:
"No, no, don't be fooled - this is no upset. This is yet another confirmation of a minnow turning bully, bullying a side who's a little too used to being bullied come the World Cup. The Bangladeshis know this, with just a bear hug from Shakib to Mashrafe, with the others only indulging in handshakes. It was THAT clinical"

Cricbuzz sums it up well. Those who try to mock us about post win celebrations look at this.
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Cricbuzz also quoting mashrafee as losing skipper :facepalm:
 
Markhor said:
You said Inzamam is to blame for not giving Sarfraz spinners to work with. But in that series Inzamam GAVE Sarfraz not one but THREE spinners but Asian Clive Lloyd thought to play three quicks on dead UAE tracks and thus lost our unbeaten streak.

Only a captain without brain would play just one specialist spinner in UAE. But that would be Sarfraz.

Also I note no comment on Sarfraz demanding unproven kid with barely any List A experience in Hasnain and TTF Wahab in the WC squad.

Sarfraz should sit down and take lessons from Mortaza and how he has beaten SAF using two spinners in Miraz and Shakib. You need to take pace off the ball on these flat pitches. However if Sarfraz was actually devoted to his cricket he wouldn't be carrying a 2nd Trimester stomach.
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Sarfaraz is more devoted to the type of Biyrani.
 
Markhor said:
You said Inzamam is to blame for not giving Sarfraz spinners to work with. But in that series Inzamam GAVE Sarfraz not one but THREE spinners but Asian Clive Lloyd thought to play three quicks on dead UAE tracks and thus lost our unbeaten streak.

Only a captain without brain would play just one specialist spinner in UAE. But that would be Sarfraz.

Also I note no comment on Sarfraz demanding unproven kid with barely any List A experience in Hasnain and TTF Wahab in the WC squad.

Sarfraz should sit down and take lessons from Mortaza and how he has beaten SAF using two spinners in Miraz and Shakib. You need to take pace off the ball on these flat pitches. However if Sarfraz was actually devoted to his cricket he wouldn't be carrying a 2nd Trimester stomach.
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I get is Sarfaraz is the spawn of the devil. I wish we had Inzi as captain, coach and selector. Can't forget the spectacular performance in the 2007 WC under his command.


The only reason the Wahab and Hasnain comment did not get any response is because that is completely your own fabrication and there is no documented evidence of there being any proof of it. Also that test series you are talking about was perhaps Sarf's first as captain. Good of you to absolve Mickey and Inzi of all blame. Remove Sarfaraz as captain, Pak team will turn legendary tomorrow, am I right?


Also funny you mention that Sarfaraz should learn how to use spinners because he won the PSL with QG on the back of his spinners and where he was in complete command to pick the players he likes and not be dictated by Inzi and Mickey.
 
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Chokli said:
Sarfaraz is more devoted to the type of Biyrani.
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:)) Yes then he springs into action.

Look at Mashrafe Mortaza, the guy's knees and ankles are completely shot after 16 years of international cricket. God knows how many surgeries he's had. But he is still one of the fittest members of the squad and is an inspiring leader.

Meanwhile we have Biriyani King. How far we have fallen !
 
Congratulations to all Bangladeshi fans and thanks to all those who supported us , this opens up the tournament. Dream of semis and finals lives on. In the post match interview Shakib said they have something to prove in this World Cup
 
Markhor said:
:)) Yes then he springs into action.

Look at Mashrafe Mortaza, the guy's knees and ankles are completely shot after 16 years of international cricket. God knows how many surgeries he's had. But he is still one of the fittest members of the squad and is an inspiring leader.

Meanwhile we have Biriyani King. How far we have fallen !
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Should have been a chef honestly.

He likes to yell a lot, would have been perfect for the kitchen!
 
Chokli said:
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Lol, it was actually Bangladesh getting the hopes up of people like you.



No mate, Bangladesh isn't Pakistan... When you have runs on the board you back your bowling to defend them.

But then again it's not your fault Pakistan couldn't defend 358, 340 and couldn't get 32 off 18 balls for victory.



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Again, this ain't team Pakistan where they can let a team chase 358 in 45 overs.

Who is laughing hard now?



Indeed they should, maybe in 2023.



Told y'all.



Lol indeed, these guys have no common sense.



It was bound to happen eventually.

Making fun of Indian bowlers and making fun of Bangladeshi cricket team.

Come back to bite them right where it hurts.







Please educate yourself on Cricket and then comment.
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Cool mate. Be humble please. Sor de unko. They are already injured
 
But for BD's average fielding SA would have folded long back. They have to up their fielding. The catch drop could have been Kohli's Smith's.
 
Syed1 said:
I get is Sarfaraz is the spawn of the devil. I wish we had Inzi as captain, coach and selector. Can't forget the spectacular performance in the 2007 WC under his command.


The only reason the Wahab and Hasnain comment did not get any response is because that is completely your own fabrication and there is no documented evidence of there being any proof of it. Also that test series you are talking about was perhaps Sarf's first as captain. Good of you to absolve Mickey and Inzi of all blame. Remove Sarfaraz as captain, Pak team will turn legendary tomorrow, am I right?


Also funny you mention that Sarfaraz should learn how to use spinners because he won the PSL with QG on the back of his spinners and where he was in complete command to pick the players he likes and not be dictated by Inzi and Mickey.
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Saj has reported that the selection of Wahab was Sarfraz's call. It is also not a coincidence his Quetta Gladiator teammate Hasnain has been called up.

As for PSL, it is a second rate Mickey Mouse league. Just as we shouldn't select players on the basis of performances from it, we shouldn't hype captains to the moon because of PSL. Misbah also won the PSL but I don't see you praising him for that :))
 
jnaveen1980 said:
But for BD's average fielding SA would have folded long back. They have to up their fielding. The catch drop could have been Kohli's Smith's.
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Well said Mithun is a huge liability in the field, not to mention Riyad fields like a grandpa. Brother Soumya had a tough chance. But we atleast got a decent match today. Alhamdullilah :amla
 
Hope you got the answer

Cpt. Rishwat said:
I will certainly be watching this match with interest. Some BD fans were quite arrogant in discussions about their team's chances against Pakistan in the warm up game so I am expecting BD to be quite a powerful team. Could well be their confidence is well placed so today will be confirmation of their rising stock perhaps.
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Hope you got the confirmation
 
Ronaldo7 said:
A bowler who doesn’t get smacked for 5 sixes in a row...
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So Broad is not good bowler then.. BTW this Saif (?) guy may not be consistent but he has good Yorkers and had knack of taking important wickets...
 
Congrats, hopefully you will do better than all the other asians in this cup.
 
Ashraful_Rox said:
Well said Mithun is a huge liability in the field, not to mention Riyad fields like a grandpa. Brother Soumya had a tough chance. But we atleast got a decent match today. Alhamdullilah :amla
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Mithun made 21 runs and we won by same margin. He was the difference between two sides.

Jorse chillao: Mithun Mithun...
 
BANGLADESH scored their highest ever One-Day International total after being put into bat to set them on the way to a 21-run victory over the Standard Bank Proteas in match 5 of the ICC Men’s World Cup at The Oval in London on Sunday.

It was Bangladesh’s opening match of the tournament while the Proteas are without a victory after two matches.

The Proteas were set to score what would have been a tournament record chase total of 331 for victory. The current record stands behind the name of Ireland who beat England by chasing down a total of 329 in the 2011 edition.

There were many reasons behind the Proteas defeat, the most important probably being a poor bowling performance in the first half of the innings that saw them concede a huge number of boundaries while they were unable to make significant breakthroughs.

Bangladesh were given a strong start by Tamim Iqbal and Soumya Sarkar who put on 60 for the first wicket inside 9 overs and then consolidated by the run-a-ball third wicket stand of 132 by their two senior batsman, Man of the Match Shakib-ul-Hasan (75 off 84 balls, 8 fours and a six) and Mushfiqur Rahim (78 off 80 balls, 8 fours).

Finally, Bangladesh put on 54 in the last four overs to strike a decisive blow and give Bangladesh an above par total.

The Proteas situation was not helped by the hamstring injury suffered by Lungi Ngidi who retired from the fray after bowling only four overs. This impacted seriously on the Proteas bowling plans as it meant Imran Tahir, playing his 100th ODI, had to bowl most of his overs later in the innings than normal and Ngidi’s absence left a big hole in the death bowling resources in the critical final 10 overs.

It makes getting Dale Steyn fit for the third match against India at Southampton on Wednesday a matter of urgency.

The Proteas batsmen had to work far harder for their runs than their opponents and they needed at least one of their top order to go bigger than Faf du Plessis’ top score of 62 (53 balls, 5 fours and a six) for them to get close.

They went into the final 10 overs needing 103 runs and continued to lose wickets against disciplined bowling.
 
Smbhayi said:
But SA missed his freebies too... ;)..
Anyway Congrats BD.. Hope Pak wins tomorrow.. Really don't like England team..
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He is not that quality bowler like Bumrah but that is what we have
Thanks
 
Tyler Durden said:
Well done by the 2nd best Asian Team! Congratulations! Good to see no nagin dances and their celebrations are subdued too. That's what happens when winning becomes a habit! BD played like a true 2nd best Asian team!
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Well , our nagin dance teacher spinner Nazmul is not in the side now. You may see it again once he come back.
Your observation of not celebrating much is spot on. This win is not an upset.
 
Bangladesh promised to fight fire with fire against South Africa’s attack and promptly proceeded to deliver, setting the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2019 alight with a thrilling performance in the closest game of the competition so far.

More than 600 runs were scored at the Oval, 330 of them by Bangladesh, who made a strong statement about their batting prowess.

This was Bangladesh’s highest ever ODI score, surpassing their previous best of 329/6 against Pakistan in Dhaka in April 2015, to upset third-ranked South Africa, who sit four places above them in the rankings.

It was only the fourth time Bangladesh have beaten South Africa in 22 ODIs and the second time at a World Cup, after their 67-run triumph in Providence in 2007.

Three players, all from Bangladesh, have been part of both games: Shakib al Hasan, Mushfiqur Rahim and MashrafeMortaza. They were only minor contributors 12 years ago but were key to Bangladesh’s performance at the Oval.

While Mashrafe captained the team to a famous win, Shakib and Mushfiqur set it up. The experienced pair built on the opening batsmen’s 60-run foundation with a third-wicket partnership of 142, their fifth century-stand in ODIs to which they each contributed a half-century.

Shakib’s was his 43rd in limited overs’ internationals and came off 54 balls when he top-edged a pull shot off Chris Morris. He went on to become only the fifth all-rounder in history to reach 5000 runs and 250 wickets in ODIs, after SanathJayasuriya, Shahid Afridi, Jacques Kallis and Abdul Razzaq. Shakib is the quickest to these twin milestones in 199 games.

Mushfiqur hit his 34th ODI half-century off 52 balls and got there with a cut through point off Andile Phehlukwayo.

The numbers are important but equally impressive was Bangladesh’s aggressive approach South Africa’s pace battery. Bangladesh’s batsmen took on the short ball, found runs in the third man region and maintained a run rate of more than six an over throughout their innings.

They ramped that up significantly in the final 10 overs and scored 86 runs to propel their total over 300. Since the 2015 World Cup, Bangladesh have averaged 66 runs between the 40th and 50th over, the second-lowest among teams at this World Cup and their ability to accelerate at the Oval proved the difference between them and South Africa, who needed 103 runs in the last 10 overs and managed only 81.

Bangladesh’s batting performance was a testament to their steady progress since the last World Cup. In the intervening four years, Bangladesh have played 18 ODI series and won nine, including five consecutive home series against Pakistan, India, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Afghanistan, a home and away series over West Indies and a tri-series in Ireland, which included West Indies, immediately before this tournament.

They have also had the services of several international consultants including former South African batsman and coach, Neil McKenzie, who has been part of Bangladesh’s white-ball set-up since July 2018. Their fielding coach is Ryan Cook, son of former South African international Jimmy Cook, to whom some of Bangladesh’s sharpness in the field can be attributed.

The victory means that Bangladesh are the only one of the four subcontinent sides that have played so far to have won their opening match. India will play their first fixture on Wednesday in Southampton, against South Africa, who have yet to put points on the board at this World Cup.
 
thanks to all our well wishers.

Congratulations to Bangladesh team. Well deserved win.
 
Well done Bangladesh. Finally a great game to kickstart this World Cup.

It was somewhat palpable when they were smashing it around in the first 20 overs that they were going to win this. An extended package of early-game highlights which had that special tournament feel about it.

South Africa meanwhile got everything wrong. Their team selection was unbalanced, their chasing strategy was wrong (again), their bowling plans were wrong, they fell apart at the death against the Bangladeshi tail, their mental strength was found lacking in the key moments (shocker...) - and most of all the decision at the toss was bizarre, negative, and sorry to say this but it seemed quite cowardly as well.
 
Chokli said:
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Lol, it was actually Bangladesh getting the hopes up of people like you.



No mate, Bangladesh isn't Pakistan... When you have runs on the board you back your bowling to defend them.

But then again it's not your fault Pakistan couldn't defend 358, 340 and couldn't get 32 off 18 balls for victory.



Pinned this post. Please educate yourself on Cricket first before commenting.



Again, this ain't team Pakistan where they can let a team chase 358 in 45 overs.

Who is laughing hard now?



Indeed they should, maybe in 2023.



Told y'all.



Lol indeed, these guys have no common sense.



It was bound to happen eventually.

Making fun of Indian bowlers and making fun of Bangladeshi cricket team.

Come back to bite them right where it hurts.







Please educate yourself on Cricket and then comment.
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Well researched and good post brother :butt
 
This isn’t an upset.

Bangladesh have improved their cricket and are no minnows more.

Great signs.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Wait South Africa is really ranked that high? How are they above NZ? It makes no sense.
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Pos Team Weighted Matches Points Rating
1 England 43 5,372 125
2 India 47 5,669 121
3 South Africa 39 4,488 115
4 New Zealand 33 3,729 113
5 Australia 40 4,342 109
6 Pakistan 41 3,846 94
7 Bangladesh 35 3,155 90
8 West Indies 39 3,022 77
9 Sri Lanka 43 3,266 76
10 Afghanistan 31 1,961 63
11 Zimbabwe 30 1,609 54
12 Ireland 26 1,176 45
13 Scotland 10 373 37
14 Nepal 8 152 19
15 UAE 15 144 10
16 Papua New Guinea 9 50 6
 
Ranking in not far off last 3 years ODI records

Team Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L
England 69 49 14 1 5 3.5
India 70 49 18 2 1 2.722
South Africa 60 38 21 0 1 1.809
New Zealand 56 32 22 0 2 1.454
Australia 63 29 31 0 3 0.935
Afghanistan 54 28 22 1 3 1.272
Pakistan 61 27 32 0 2 0.843
Bangladesh 51 25 23 0 3 1.086
West Indies 65 20 39 2 4 0.512
Ireland 49 19 28 0 2 0.678
Sri Lanka 73 18 50 1 4 0.36
Zimbabwe 50 16 31 2 1 0.516
Scotland 27 12 12 1 2 1
U.A.E. 27 9 18 0 0 0.5
Hong Kong 15 6 8 0 1 0.75
P.N.G. 17 5 12 0 0 0.416
Nepal 6 3 3 0 0 1
Namibia 1 1 0 0 0 -
Netherlands 2 1 1 0 0 1
Oman 1 0 1 0 0 0
U.S.A. 1 0 1 0 0 0
 
Well played Bangladesh but I think this track was perfect for them. It will be interesting to see how they do on tracks that maybe more flatter and offer something for seam bowlers.


South Africa are having a horrible tournament. It's unlikely they will qualify. I think they would be better off defending a total.
 
Q. Would you call it a complete performance, and the fact that no one scored more than 78, does that make you happy as a captain that everyone contributed to the win?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Obviously. That's the team we are I think. When we contributed, each and everyone, each, mostly we win.

Yesterday I come here and told the same things that once our maximum players will step up, there's a good possibility to win the matches. So I think we've been very lucky and played so well.

Q. Shakib, how much of a difference has he made to the team since he started batting at three?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: I think last year it's been started to bat at three, but unfortunately in the final, he got injured, and it takes around six months to come back. Once he's come back, a few matches he played at five.

Again, we thought that no experience -- he got the experience and make sure that in the top order that he's batted, he's more responsible and he can hold all the pressures and he can deliver at his best.

So that was the thought behind, and exactly he's spot on, and again, he needs the final and play the first match here, and he performed so well for the team.

Q. You've played in quite a few World Cups. Would you say that this is one of the best ever performances from a Bangladesh team?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Not really. I think played well a few matches in 2010, talking about, 2007, 2011 we played well a few matches. Especially if you're talking about a specific match, I don't think so it's the best one. But we played so well, especially in England. It's not easy for us in the condition, not giving us the favour which is very used to in home.

But again, I thought one of the best, one of the best performance to us, and we love to play the we played today.

I'm sure that it won't be happen every day, but that is the idea. I know love to play that way.

Q. Would you tell us a little bit about the difference that Neil McKenzie has made to the batting lineup and in terms of playing against South Africa?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: He's amazing. He's helping our batters so well last eight -- I think more than eight months, he's been working with us. I wouldn't say only Neil. I think our whole management part is so well. They are working hard with the boys.

We knew that the big tournament is coming, World Cup, and we are starting World Cup six months behind. I don't think so after one match, we should be so happy that we could manage to deliver that our best.

So still, a few areas we can improve and hopefully we'll move on from here. Especially, you know, once we have the momentum, we love to keep it going, and as you said, Neil is working so hard for us, and hopefully he will stay with us for a long time.

Q. Just want to know from you, your middle order, it is one of the most experienced batting lineup in this competition. Do you think going forward in this tournament, this is Bangladesh's biggest strength, your middle order experienced batsmen that you have?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Yeah, hundred per cent. That is the best we have. I always said, like if you look the experience, I have Tamim and Shakib batting at three, Mushfiqur comes back at four -- batting at six for the depth; and the middle -- batting so well for us and even started slow today, and Soumya, he's coming out with -- something out the box. So it's really I think us and obviously No. 7 is always we are keep changing with Mosa and Mushfiqur and Sabbir Rahman.

I think really, it's a heavy batting lineup I think, and obviously I should say, I'm proud of Mushi and Miraz (ph), they are fasting and played at their best today.

Q. Given the strengths of your spinners and the fact that it was the second time this pitch has been used, you must have been very happy to have been sent in to bat.
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: To be honest, as a team, we have been so -- half an hour spending team in fielder, we should bat. Normally England, we get a wicket moving a bit, so end of the day, now I expecting that best idea is to losing the toss. So luckily I lose the toss, and they are giving us batting.

Again, I said that it has been a used wicket, so you never know what happened, and it was good to bat first, and then later, the spinners played their big role. Always they coming back into the bowling and they built a good wicket. So it's been really great performance by the spinner, and obviously finished up with Mustafizur and Mossadek.

Q. Do you think that this all-around performance is the one that will change the perception of Bangladesh being a team that will deliver upsets to one that it's a genuine title contender?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Yeah, meaning that was upset?

Q. No, no, I'm saying in the past, perception may have been. Is this the time it will change?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: 100 per cent. It does depend. Can't comment anything about it. It depend on particular person, how he think about it.

So we are concentrating on our game; that we can deliver -- if we can deliver our best. We knew that, you know, in that stage it's going to be very difficult for us. So we are concentrating on our own games and let's people talk whatever they wants to. If they are not happy with us, obviously they will talk something wrong; something that which is not going for us.

So we shouldn't think about it. Just keep concentrating on our own game, and I'm sure that there's not much people who is great friend of our cricket, so I think, you know, we should -- as I said, we should concentrate on our own game.

Hopefully this contest will keep going. Sometimes it's bowlers will keep swinging, so hopefully we'll continue with good work. Obviously it's not going to be successful every day, but I hope that he'll keep his consistency going on.
 
DR. MOHAMMED MOOSAJEE: Good evening, everybody. First, we'll talk about Lungi Ngidi. He sustained sharp discomfort in his left hamstring after bowling the fourth over today. He came off. He was assessed and clinically we felt that he had a left hamstring strain. We decided not to let him go out there and bowl any further in this match.

So currently, it probably means that he'll be out for about a week to ten days, but we'll have scans done tomorrow. The plan will be probably to get him ready for the West Indies match.

The other person we need to talk about is Hashim Amla. During the last match, he sustained a blow to the to the helmet. When he came off the field he was assessed. There were concussion assessment tests done as well as various computerised assessments done. Initially the results were what we call inconclusive, or equivocal.

Repeat tests were done about an hour, one and a half hours later, which were much clearer than the ones before, and that's why the decision was made to let him go out there and bat. Subsequent to the match, the next day, he felt some symptoms and there for as a precaution, we decided to rest him from this game.

The plan is to get him ready for the match against India on Wednesday in Southampton.

Q. Dale Steyn, how is he going?
DR. MOHAMMED MOOSAJEE: Dale Steyn, as we said before we left South Africa, that it's very much watching his progress, almost the plan was always to try to get him ready for the India or the West Indies game.

So he's making decent progress and he's out there bowling right now. We'll make a call before the India game as to where he is currently.

Q. If you can try and explain that, hell of a disappointing result for you guys.
FAF DU PLESSIS: Yeah, extremely disappointed. I mean, gutted to say that, you know, all formats of our game at the moment is just not firing. To blame bad luck is not an option for me.

You know, with Hash the previous game and Lungi today, I still think you have to find a way to make sure that you put in performances, and we are just off in most areas.

We are doing some good things during games, but we are not putting it together over 80 per cent of the time. Yeah, so that last five overs, I think was crucial for them. I saw towards the end that we were on the same par score as them at 45, and to go for that many in the last five wasn't great.

And then with the bat, once again, we looked good. We did some good things. But myself included, you know, you need to go through and score 100s. That's what's going to win you matches, not 30s and 40s.

Q. Ahead of the tournament, much was made of the opening attack, opening bowlers, how you're going to look to be aggressive and pepper the guys with bounces. How would you assess the way Lungi and Kagiso went today and do you think perhaps you weren't aggressive enough with your lengths?
FAF DU PLESSIS: Yeah that, was our plan. Our plan was to try in both the England game and this game, try and make sure that we target them with aggressive bowling. But you know, like I said, we weren't at our best, and the opening bowlers would be the first to put their hand up to say that didn't execute on our skills today, and that went right through the innings.

I thought there was a lot of loose shots, especially on the cutting side today. There was a lot of width that was given. It's just at the moment, we're just off, in all facets of it, and it's not good enough. That's why any team in this World Cup can beat any team. It's just the way that it's set up.

Today Bangladesh batted really well. I have to give it to them. They paced their innings very, very good. They showed us how to set up a big score, and we did signs of it, but not full on enough. There was bigger partnerships in their camp, yeah, and that's why they were 30 runs better than us today.

Q. What did you learn about your team today, and what's the one thing you can do to begin to turn these defeats into wins?
FAF DU PLESSIS: Great question. Look, it didn't go according to plan. We spoke a lot about before the game, trying to be aggressive in using that first hour, and there was a lot of talk about the toss, what we wanted to do. Use our four-seamers and pace that we wanted to do, but obviously then Lungi got injured and that changed completely.

Now all of a sudden, as captain, I have to bowl 15 to 20 overs of medium to slow or spin or bowling, and then obviously then it changes completely. So then you need to bowl the team out in order to make sure that you don't have to chase a big score.

But the nature of subcontinent teams is that they do get a big score on the board, they can squeeze you when they have runs on the board, and that's exactly what happened.

When they got 330, you know, they were just a couple of wickets away from bossing the game. I thought it was a really good wicket. I didn't think it changed that much. I just think that we weren't good enough in all three formats. They bowled good yorkers towards the end. They showed how us how to do that over a five-over period, and in the middle, I have got some experience with Shakib. He was really good today, just batting really good areas.

We were close with the bat, but I do think 350 was 20 runs too many.

Q. How difficult it is managing your team with so many injuries building by the day? How difficult does it get in World Cup?
FAF DU PLESSIS: You know, any captain would say that it's not easy, but I mean, I can't complain about it. That's not going to change anything. I have to find a way. The coaching staff, the team, has to find a way. It's not going for us from an injuries point of view.

As I said many times, our Plan A was to have all our fast bowlers bowling at the same time, and then we do have a very good bowling attack. To lose one, then you become an okay bowling attack, and now to lose two, there's pressure on our bowling attacks, so now it changes completely the mix of how we set our team up. It was never part of the plan, but that's life. You've got to roll with the punches.

Q. Today in the middle overs of Bangladesh's innings, you guys looked flat in the field. This whole philosophy and psychological plan to say it's not the end of the world if we don't win the World Cup, can that have a negative effect? Do you guys care at all about how you come across to the fans?
FAF DU PLESSIS: I think that happens naturally when you are in a bad position in the game. I've played a lot of cricket, and every single team that I play for around the world, it's the same effect.

Once a partnership starts developing; once that you find in the field that things are not going your way, the natural thing that happens to players is they fall off a little bit, they push -- their shoulders drop a little bit. Their body language is not as strong.

That's not this team, I promise you that happens in every single team. And there's always conversations around how long and how well you can keep doing that, but that's what happened today. Bangladesh batted and put our bowlers under pressure, and naturally I think the fielders were -- Lungi's injury had an impact psychologically on some of the guys, even though they weren't thinking about it.

So for us, the talking in the middle was still, you know, make sure we stay fighting. We are one wicket away from restricting them to a good total.

But naturally, I can speak as much about it from my point of view as I want, but it naturally happens to fielders, especially when they go towards the boundaries and there's not a lot of balls to go to them. That's the natural thing that happens when you're feeling under the pump as a team.

Q. Again, coming back to that Plan A, Plan A seemed like a really good plan, three fast bowlers. When that doesn't work, do you feel like your side is able to win cricket matches in other ways? Do you think there was an over-reliance on Plan A? Did you have Plan B, C, D, etc.?
FAF DU PLESSIS: Yeah, but Plan A is gone. It's gone because the Plan A was those bowlers playing together. They haven't played a game together on this tour. You know, initially Plan B was Anrich Nortje was an extra pace bowler that we had lined up for if we had an injury, to have another X-factor bowler that can bowl 145 plus. He got injured, as well.

So now you're moving into your all rounder territory. You have two medium pace all-rounders and then you have Chris Morris that like sits in between your fast bowlers and your medium pace bowlers so, now, we have to. We have to really look at what we can do to try to be effective; is it playing all rounders together, do we play two spinners.

Now it's reshuffling all our cards and see how best we can deal with it.

Q. Obviously South Africa hasn't got a great record in World Cups, but you've never started this badly. Do you think you still have a chance at winning it?
FAF DU PLESSIS: I have to believe that. I won't be South African if I said no.

Yeah, I'll go back and try and see how we can lift the spirits in the team. We're playing a strong team in India in their first game, and our third game, so as a team, we know. We know we're not good enough at the moment and we have to turn it around.

It's not like international cricket, there you go, there's a win for you. The World Cup is set up, strong teams, and you know, we have to. We have no other choice. We won't be going back and just falling over, I can promise you that.

Q. You came to this World Cup with a very different philosophy I think from previous South African teams and it made perfect sense because some of the emphatic players are gone. Do you think when you do that, that there's a danger of a team forgetting who they are, and if you are changing the branding or the DNA, do you think your team still know who they are?
FAF DU PLESSIS: Definitely. I don't think it's got anything to do with that. At the moment, it's a skill thing. Our skill is not where it needs to be. It's got absolutely nothing to do with -- as I said, injuries, you can make excuses, as many as you want.

Every single player in our dressing room is not playing to their full potential, and that's why we're not putting the performance on. As soon as that starts happening, then those things will change.

Every player on the team can say that. None of us has been on top of your game yet, so it's just about making sure you look at yourself in the mirror and see how you can find that answer.

Q. Do you think on the mindset, there will be a change in the days leading up to India? Do you think there's a need for harsh words in the dressing room? Also, your message for the guys back home who are watching today.
FAF DU PLESSIS: Well, there's always -- certainly from my style of captaincy, has always been there's a line, and if you don't perform to that line, then there's a lot of harsh words. I'm certainly not Mr. Nice Guy. There's times for strictness and there's times that you see a dressing room needs you to be strong and to motivate them, and that was the previous game when we lost to England the way that we did.

But now, today was not good enough. As I said, there's absolutely no excuses from me. So if the guys think they can make excuses for a performance like today, then they will be challenged. That's a fact.

And your second part was the fans. Yeah, I think the fans understand what I'm saying now that it's not good enough. I'm even going to try to make excuses. We are not playing to our full potential. It was great to see South African fans in the last two games come out to support, because it makes me really proud to come and play; that there's people coming here to support us. They are flying all the way, and it's expensive to come here, so you appreciate that, and you sit there and you think about it.

But for us, the fans know; all I can say is that we'll keep fighting.

Q. I want to go back to your plans A, B and C. When do you start thinking about, like if you get to a point where Dale Steyn isn't ready, when do you have to start thinking about replacing people in the squad?
FAF DU PLESSIS: It's tricky, yeah, because our resources is slim, as I said, if there was an option to straightaway put him in, if Anrich was here, you could say, listen Dale, it's getting to that time now where you need to play or we need to substitute you. But now we have got two or three. So do you send both back to get someone else in? The medical guru here will try and help us out with that.

Dale Steyn is still, if he's fit, he can still make a huge difference to our performance, and we need guys to make differences in this team. So Dale is one of them.

Lungi is also one of them. Lungi will also be the first to say that he has not bowled to his full potential the last two games. He's normally our best line and length bowler.

Yeah, he worked hard on his fitness leading up to this game, but you know, he's also had a lot of injuries over a short period of time now so, that makes -- got to challenge him to work hard and making sure that he gets his fitness up for longer. It's important for a young guy to play cricket over extended period of time, not just to play a couple of games, break down, a couple of games again.

Q. You came into this World Cup, obviously with a lot of reliance on your pace bowlers, and maybe using aggressive bowling, short pitch that, sort of thing. Do you feel today -- obviously you after 45, got yourselves back into a reasonable position, but then the last five, it just seemed like there was a lot of short balls that were disappearing to the boundary. Do you feel you need to rethink that?
FAF DU PLESSIS: No, that wasn't the plan at all. The plan was for the long boundary. The plan for the bowler was to give yourself a lot of different options at the depth. It was certainly not just to bowl short. I think pace off is what the bowlers tried more often than not because of the nature of the size of the square.

But within that, you still need to make sure that you know the yorkers, and today we missed our yorkers. Every time a bowler tried a yorker, it went for six. So I think then naturally what happens is you try and find your other skill, whether that's a short ball or a bounce.

Yeah, because there was a couple of opportunities there on the boundary that we possibly could have taken. I remember one ball going over KG's head that was a catch. That was the in-batter. Once again, it's the small little mistakes that we're making, which is giving the opposition more runs.
 
Congratulations to [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], [MENTION=136446]Mainul[/MENTION], [MENTION=45836]Ashraful_Rox[/MENTION], @Nil_Dhumrojal, [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] and other Bangladeshi fans. Very convincing win.

As a Bengali Indian I always root for Bangladesh to win except when they play India :)
 
Napa said:
Congratulations to [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], [MENTION=136446]Mainul[/MENTION], [MENTION=45836]Ashraful_Rox[/MENTION], @Nil_Dhumrojal, [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] and other Bangladeshi fans. Very convincing win.

As a Bengali Indian I always root for Bangladesh to win except when they play India :)
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Thanks Dear Napa brother :kohli India is my second team now :faf
 
Markhor said:
You said Inzamam is to blame for not giving Sarfraz spinners to work with. But in that series Inzamam GAVE Sarfraz not one but THREE spinners but Asian Clive Lloyd thought to play three quicks on dead UAE tracks and thus lost our unbeaten streak.

Only a captain without brain would play just one specialist spinner in UAE. But that would be Sarfraz.

Also I note no comment on Sarfraz demanding unproven kid with barely any List A experience in Hasnain and TTF Wahab in the WC squad.

Sarfraz should sit down and take lessons from Mortaza and how he has beaten SAF using two spinners in Miraz and Shakib. You need to take pace off the ball on these flat pitches. However if Sarfraz was actually devoted to his cricket he wouldn't be carrying a 2nd Trimester stomach.
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Why is Sarfraz known as Asian Clive Lloyd?
 
Napa said:
Congratulations to [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION], [MENTION=136446]Mainul[/MENTION], [MENTION=45836]Ashraful_Rox[/MENTION], @Nil_Dhumrojal, [MENTION=130260]Executioner[/MENTION] and other Bangladeshi fans. Very convincing win.

As a Bengali Indian I always root for Bangladesh to win except when they play India :)
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Thanks
 
MenInG said:
Q. Would you call it a complete performance, and the fact that no one scored more than 78, does that make you happy as a captain that everyone contributed to the win?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Obviously. That's the team we are I think. When we contributed, each and everyone, each, mostly we win.

Yesterday I come here and told the same things that once our maximum players will step up, there's a good possibility to win the matches. So I think we've been very lucky and played so well.

Q. Shakib, how much of a difference has he made to the team since he started batting at three?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: I think last year it's been started to bat at three, but unfortunately in the final, he got injured, and it takes around six months to come back. Once he's come back, a few matches he played at five.

Again, we thought that no experience -- he got the experience and make sure that in the top order that he's batted, he's more responsible and he can hold all the pressures and he can deliver at his best.

So that was the thought behind, and exactly he's spot on, and again, he needs the final and play the first match here, and he performed so well for the team.

Q. You've played in quite a few World Cups. Would you say that this is one of the best ever performances from a Bangladesh team?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Not really. I think played well a few matches in 2010, talking about, 2007, 2011 we played well a few matches. Especially if you're talking about a specific match, I don't think so it's the best one. But we played so well, especially in England. It's not easy for us in the condition, not giving us the favour which is very used to in home.

But again, I thought one of the best, one of the best performance to us, and we love to play the we played today.

I'm sure that it won't be happen every day, but that is the idea. I know love to play that way.

Q. Would you tell us a little bit about the difference that Neil McKenzie has made to the batting lineup and in terms of playing against South Africa?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: He's amazing. He's helping our batters so well last eight -- I think more than eight months, he's been working with us. I wouldn't say only Neil. I think our whole management part is so well. They are working hard with the boys.

We knew that the big tournament is coming, World Cup, and we are starting World Cup six months behind. I don't think so after one match, we should be so happy that we could manage to deliver that our best.

So still, a few areas we can improve and hopefully we'll move on from here. Especially, you know, once we have the momentum, we love to keep it going, and as you said, Neil is working so hard for us, and hopefully he will stay with us for a long time.

Q. Just want to know from you, your middle order, it is one of the most experienced batting lineup in this competition. Do you think going forward in this tournament, this is Bangladesh's biggest strength, your middle order experienced batsmen that you have?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Yeah, hundred per cent. That is the best we have. I always said, like if you look the experience, I have Tamim and Shakib batting at three, Mushfiqur comes back at four -- batting at six for the depth; and the middle -- batting so well for us and even started slow today, and Soumya, he's coming out with -- something out the box. So it's really I think us and obviously No. 7 is always we are keep changing with Mosa and Mushfiqur and Sabbir Rahman.

I think really, it's a heavy batting lineup I think, and obviously I should say, I'm proud of Mushi and Miraz (ph), they are fasting and played at their best today.

Q. Given the strengths of your spinners and the fact that it was the second time this pitch has been used, you must have been very happy to have been sent in to bat.
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: To be honest, as a team, we have been so -- half an hour spending team in fielder, we should bat. Normally England, we get a wicket moving a bit, so end of the day, now I expecting that best idea is to losing the toss. So luckily I lose the toss, and they are giving us batting.

Again, I said that it has been a used wicket, so you never know what happened, and it was good to bat first, and then later, the spinners played their big role. Always they coming back into the bowling and they built a good wicket. So it's been really great performance by the spinner, and obviously finished up with Mustafizur and Mossadek.

Q. Do you think that this all-around performance is the one that will change the perception of Bangladesh being a team that will deliver upsets to one that it's a genuine title contender?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: Yeah, meaning that was upset?

Q. No, no, I'm saying in the past, perception may have been. Is this the time it will change?
MASHRAFE MORTAZA: 100 per cent. It does depend. Can't comment anything about it. It depend on particular person, how he think about it.

So we are concentrating on our game; that we can deliver -- if we can deliver our best. We knew that, you know, in that stage it's going to be very difficult for us. So we are concentrating on our own games and let's people talk whatever they wants to. If they are not happy with us, obviously they will talk something wrong; something that which is not going for us.

So we shouldn't think about it. Just keep concentrating on our own game, and I'm sure that there's not much people who is great friend of our cricket, so I think, you know, we should -- as I said, we should concentrate on our own game.

Hopefully this contest will keep going. Sometimes it's bowlers will keep swinging, so hopefully we'll continue with good work. Obviously it's not going to be successful every day, but I hope that he'll keep his consistency going on.
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Mainul said:
Really? MashaAllah. How did u know it?
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Read the Bold part brother Mainul :amla
 
BDfanforever said:
It is not mandatory when playing. Also not healthy in such condition.
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It depends on how much strong faith one has on Allah SWT. Allah SWT helps His Banda whenever he or she tries to please Him. Medical science may contradict it but the creator of science when helps it goes beyond science. Hashim Amla has a triple century in tests while fasting and he said that he feels fitter while fasting. Did u see any sign of of unfitness in Miraz and Mushfique yesterday? Intact they we're the best performers. .May Allah SWT shower His blessing on players who are fasting in this WC.
 
Mainul said:
It depends on how much strong faith one has on Allah SWT. Allah SWT helps His Banda whenever he or she tries to please Him. Medical science may contradict it but the creator of science when helps it goes beyond science. Hashim Amla has a triple century in tests while fasting and he said that he feels fitter while fasting. Did u see any sign of of unfitness in Miraz and Mushfique yesterday? Intact they we're the best performers. .May Allah SWT shower His blessing on players who are fasting in this WC.
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Riyad was fasting as well, good post.
 
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