Bangladesh and Pakistan need to play Test cricket against each other

[JibranAnsari]

In the last 5 years Bangladesh has played only 29 test matches , thats less than 6 test matches per year and pakistan has played 40 test matches. Of all the regular test playing nations these two have played the least number of test matches in the last five years. They have only played 2 test matches against each other in the last 5 years whereas this numner could have been 8-10 test matches.


There will have to be some compromises made but the ultimate goal should be to play as much test cricket possible.

 

[warcry]

hahahaha!

the only reason we are inviting them is that we are bound to ftp rules. otherwise hosting bangladesh is commercially not feasible, at home or in dubai, same reason no one does.

 

[Harpoon]

hahahaha!

the only reason we are inviting them is that we are bound to ftp rules. otherwise hosting bangladesh is commercially not feasible, at home or in dubai, same reason no one does.

Do you think our Pak team makes any money for Australia when they invite us? It is not always about money for most cricket boards and that's how it should be. Learn to enjoy cricket and go to the stadium when Bangladesh visits and cheer them on like we cheered on SriLankan.
That's the cricket way. Stay on it.

 

[warcry]

Do you think our Pak team makes any money for Australia when they invite us? It is not always about money for most cricket boards and that's how it should be. Learn to enjoy cricket and go to the stadium when Bangladesh visits and cheer them on like we cheered on SriLankan.
That's the cricket way. Stay on it.

exactly. that is precisely why we only got 2 test series. pakistan is not financially feasible to play a 5 match test series with.

similarly bangladesh even more unfeasible, no one invites them to tour.

thing is who on earth would pay their hard earned cash to go watch bangladesh?

so if they decide not to come, i dont really mind. not at all.

 

[Mamoon]

Remarkable to see SL playing only 1 less than India and 5 more than SA.

The SLCB are masters at negotiating.

 

[Babbar]

Great Data. Everyone wants to play against England!

BD has to play more. They need to become a more exciting team so people come to watch them play.

 

[Titan24]

As I have mentioned few other times as well that historically the average number of tests per year Pak has played has been around 7-8 tests per year (These 5 years also produce an avg of 8) which can be seen from the last decade as well with an upside variation in one year or so.

However, at the same time I do agree that the average should be 10 or above considering how much tests some other countries are playing and Pak should also adjust its schedule according to the modern era which they have currently only done for T20 internationals.

Pak just needs to squeeze in just one extra 3 match series per year to improve the average. I think lack of in cricket in Pakistan has also made it difficult to keep up with some other countries in terms of the amount of cricket as UAE brings in a lot of extra costs.

 

[Savak]

Bangladesh are not important and do not really matter

 

[JibranAnsari]

As I have mentioned few other times as well that historically the average number of tests per year Pak has played has been around 7-8 tests per year (These 5 years also produce an avg of 8) which can be seen from the last decade as well with an upside variation in one year or so.

However, at the same time I do agree that the average should be 10 or above considering how much tests some other countries are playing and Pak should also adjust its schedule according to the modern era which they have currently only done for T20 internationals.

Pak just needs to squeeze in just one extra 3 match series per year to improve the average. I think lack of in cricket in Pakistan has also made it difficult to keep up with some other countries in terms of the amount of cricket as UAE brings in a lot of extra costs.

players like younis khan should have played more test matches in his long career and so goes for mohammad yousuf. 8 test mafches just isnt enough per year and with our 2 matches test series and cricket boycott with india it leaves us very little room to play more test matches. Pakistan and bangladesh , both will benefit if they regularly play each other.

 

[Titan24]

Coming to Pak and BD playing more cricket; I personally dont mind both the countries playing more cricket especially in LOIs however, with the reluctance of playing even as per the Test championship and FTP schedule, BCB has made it clear that its not gonna be an easy relationship if there is gonna be one to start with.

So its better for Pak to look towards NZ or WI who also dont play as much test cricket as some others.

 

[Titan24]

players like younis khan should have played more test matches in his long career and so goes for mohammad yousuf. 8 test mafches just isnt enough per year and with our 2 matches test series and cricket boycott with india it leaves us very little room to play more test matches. Pakistan and bangladesh , both will benefit if they regularly play each other.

I agree that Pak should have played more tests and needs to play more going forward. Some of the batsmen of Pak and bowlers would have had much more runs and wickets if they would have been playing as much cricket as their counterparts. Only possibility for any Pak cricketer to come into record books on the basis of quantity has always been starting young.

As you gave an example of Yousuf, just because he started late and Pak wasn’t playing as much tests as maybe some others he couldnt pile up as many runs (Quantity) and now some international national experts dont remember his quality much as well except when his name is specifically brought up as we dont see his names in charts of most number of runs or centuries etc.

Regarding more tests as I have mentioned in post# 10 as well, NZ, WI and even SA can be looked at as they also dont play as much as some others.

 

[JibranAnsari]

I agree that Pak should have played more tests and needs to play more going forward. Some of the batsmen of Pak and bowlers would have had much more runs and wickets if they would have been playing as much cricket as their counterparts. Only possibility for any Pak cricketer to come into record books on the basis of quantity has always been starting young.

As you gave an example of Yousuf, just because he started late and Pak wasn’t playing as much tests as maybe some others he couldnt pile up as many runs (Quantity) and now some international national experts dont remember his quality much as well except when his name is specifically brought up as we dont see his names in charts of most number of runs or centuries etc.

Regarding more tests as I have mentioned in post# 10 as well, NZ, WI and even SA can be looked at as they also dont play as much as some others.

There are seven countries we can play and if the teams tour each other every 4 years (play twice in 4 years period) for at least a 3 test series then pakistan can end up playing 10- 11 test matches a year. But the gap is pretty big at the moment , pakistans last two tours to south africa were 6 years apart and similar case with west indies. The gap between tours to australia and england was reduced but so did the number of test matches , pcb needs to negoatiate better.

 

[Waleed93]

Bangladesh are not important and do not really matter

You are acting as if the gap between Pakistan and Bangladesh is huge.

In Test Cricket, we can claim to be slightly better than them, but the difference of quality between the two sides is not as big as it was 10-15 years ago.

Bangladesh have improved a lot in recent times and a Test series against them will be a treat to watch, especially if it is held in Pakistan/Bangladesh.

However, keeping in mind the current relations between the PCB and BCB, it looks highly improbable at the moment.

 

[ZamanFan]

ROFL No and we don't need to.

Hopefully in few days PCB and certain posters stupidity will be exposed who promote Indians and Bangladeshis at the expense of Pakistan.
Bangladesh not once but thrice tried to isolate Pakistan and posters here are busy thinking about the plight of Bangladeshis getting less cricket.

 

[Abdullah719]

ROFL No and we don't need to.

Hopefully in few days PCB and certain posters stupidity will be exposed who promote Indians and Bangladeshis at the expense of Pakistan.
Bangladesh not once but thrice tried to isolate Pakistan and posters here are busy thinking about the plight of Bangladeshis getting less cricket.

Do you realise that if we don't play these two Tests against Bangladesh this month, it will mean we probably won't play them at all? No one else will agree to come at such short notice and there are barely any gaps in the calendar for the rest of the year. We need to play MORE Test cricket, not less.

 

[ZamanFan]

Do you realise that if we don't play these two Tests against Bangladesh this month, it will mean we probably won't play them at all? No one else will agree to come at such short notice and there are barely any gaps in the calendar for the rest of the year. We need to play MORE Test cricket, not less.

Your post looks like its Pakistan's decision. If bcb had tiured earlier they also would've played more test cricket. Pakistan board has been fooled twice(2012, and now) and both at the hands of bcb ceos.
Pakistan can't PLAY more test cricket by going to a country that has nefarious intent.

 

[Abdullah719]

Your post looks like its Pakistan's decision. If bcb had tiured earlier they also would've played more test cricket. Pakistan board has been fooled twice(2012, and now) and both at the hands of bcb ceos.
Pakistan can't PLAY more test cricket by going to a country that has nefarious intent.

PCB are still trying via diplomacy and talks and they will keep trying. Nothing to be gained by doing anything else.

 

[ZamanFan]

PCB are still trying via diplomacy and talks and they will keep trying. Nothing to be gained by doing anything else.

Isolation of 10+ years and no home cricket is a gift of more
diplomacy and talks.

 

[Savak]

You are acting as if the gap between Pakistan and Bangladesh is huge.

In Test Cricket, we can claim to be slightly better than them, but the difference of quality between the two sides is not as big as it was 10-15 years ago.

Bangladesh have improved a lot in recent times and a Test series against them will be a treat to watch, especially if it is held in Pakistan/Bangladesh.

However, keeping in mind the current relations between the PCB and BCB, it looks highly improbable at the moment.

The law of averages is bound to catch up and Bangladeshi Cricket is bound to return to their usual minnow level mediocrity. Bangladesh have only achieved temporary success because of playing against a jaded team in exile for ten plus years.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

You are acting as if the gap between Pakistan and Bangladesh is huge.

In Test Cricket, we can claim to be slightly better than them, but the difference of quality between the two sides is not as big as it was 10-15 years ago.

Bangladesh have improved a lot in recent times and a Test series against them will be a treat to watch, especially if it is held in Pakistan/Bangladesh.

However, keeping in mind the current relations between the PCB and BCB, it looks highly improbable at the moment.

Well stated!

If Bangladesh sends a near full-strength squad somehow, it could be a very close series. Definitely will bring a lot of excitement since both sides always playing thrilling if not necessarily high quality cricket.

 

[Heisenberg111]

The law of averages is bound to catch up and Bangladeshi Cricket is bound to return to their usual minnow level mediocrity. Bangladesh have only achieved temporary success because of playing against a jaded team in exile for ten plus years.

What success have they achieved against Pak? Yet to win a test against Pak. If you are talking about 3-0 in ODI's in 2015, then that was the weakest Pakistani ODI team ever ranked no.9, captained by Azhar Ali.

 

[sweep_shot]

What success have they achieved against Pak? Yet to win a test against Pak. If you are talking about 3-0 in ODI's in 2015, then that was the weakest Pakistani ODI team ever ranked no.9, captained by Azhar Ali.

Bangladesh also eliminated Pakistan in both Asia Cup 2016 and Asia Cup 2018. I think LOI contests between Pakistan and BD weren't too one-sided (apart from that WC game) in recent times.

Test is different. Pakistan are clearly miles ahead of BD in Test. BD need to improve their Test performance massively.

 

[barah_admi]

Do you think our Pak team makes any money for Australia when they invite us? It is not always about money for most cricket boards and that's how it should be. Learn to enjoy cricket and go to the stadium when Bangladesh visits and cheer them on like we cheered on SriLankan.
That's the cricket way. Stay on it.

Pakistan usually makes a lot of money in Australia. The first day/night test they played had the highest level of ticket sales for a first day ever till that point in Australia. I am not sure how this series went in terms of ticket sales but it must have been pretty decent.

Pak's series in England in 2016 was their most profitable in years and ticket sales were far actually better than the 5 test series against India in the following season.

So lets not compare Pakistan's marketability to Bangladesh for whatever lame point you are trying to make.

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

Bangladesh also eliminated Pakistan in both Asia Cup 2016 and Asia Cup 2018. I think LOI contests between Pakistan and BD weren't too one-sided (apart from that WC game) in recent times.

Test is different. Pakistan are clearly miles ahead of BD in Test. BD need to improve their Test performance massively.

Asia Cup is a useless trash tournament

BD have always choked against PAK and have lost almost all major matches to them

 

[adil_909]

test cricket will be gone in a few years. new generation doesn't care and it will be financially nonviable. eventually the leadership will figure out that people would rather watch 5 LOIs vs. 5 days of test cricket in most parts of the world and they will be forced to adapt. money talks at the end of the day, and test cricket is a product fewer and fewer people want.

 

[MenInG]

Strange that every cricketer you ask, every coach you speak to, all say that Test cricket is the real thing!

I do hope that the Test series goes ahead and we get to see some good performances.

 

[light]

test cricket will be gone in a few years. new generation doesn't care and it will be financially nonviable. eventually the leadership will figure out that people would rather watch 5 LOIs vs. 5 days of test cricket in most parts of the world and they will be forced to adapt. money talks at the end of the day, and test cricket is a product fewer and fewer people want.

This guy gets it. We will see test cricket passing away within our own lifetime. Even players themselves are calling it a quit early from test to preserve their body for leagues around the world. Heck even ODI will be played less and less. Regardless of if you like the idea or not, test cricket is not a product of this modern time, it was a product of the past. Unfortunately money speaks at the end of the day ... This world championship is just a life support for this out dated format

 

[JibranAnsari]

Finally sanity prevailed , very happy that Bangladesh has agreed to play test cricket in Pakistan. One must applaud the wholehearted efforts by Ehsan Mani and Wasim khan.

 

[Waleed93]

The law of averages is bound to catch up and Bangladeshi Cricket is bound to return to their usual minnow level mediocrity. Bangladesh have only achieved temporary success because of playing against a jaded team in exile for ten plus years.

Firstly, Bangladesh are not minnows anymore so we should stop calling them like that. Minnows are the likes of UAE, Nepal, Afghanistan, Ireland, etc.. who win 1-2 games every 5 years against a top team, and get massacred for the entire decade after that.

Secondly, a minnow team doesn't produce world class all-rounders like Shakib, who would literally be the second name on our current team's sheet after Babar.

They have done enough in the last decade to come out of the minnow league, and they deserve the credit for that.
Series wins against Pakistan, India, and South Africa, a Test win against England and Australia for the first time in history, CT 2017 semi-final spot are some achievements you will never see from a minnow team. They are a mid-table ranked team, just like Pakistan, WI, and SL, but they are surely not minnows in 2020.

However, I would still put my money on Pakistan if the two sides were to play against each other in SENA countries.