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Bangladesh beat India by 79 runs In 1st ODI

Are you serious? Bowler had no right to do that and it was clear he was intentionally getting in the way. Dhoni did that deliberately to make sure he doesn't do it again

It's pathetic to do that deliberately. In fact that's actually a) Out obstructing the field and b) seriously actionable.

It's not Dhoni's place to assault bowlers from opposite team to teach them cricket rules.
 
Guys quit praying for an India win. If we can't qualify for the CT then its what we deserve.

Let's face it our ODI form has been dreadful for years and its come back to haunt us. Its not like we're unlucky here.

This!

people act as if we are in this position because of loss to Banglas
but its been like this for ages

all started with 4-1 loss to England in UAE in 2012 which is very shameful. continued on for next 2 years with highlights being losing all matches in CT, multiple series losses to SL and 3-0 loss in UAE to Aus, and 5-2 combined loss to NZ in both UAE and NZ.

a few 2-1 wins over india and SA doesn't help much in terms of overall dent by the other losses
 
I don't want Jaddu out of the team. But he should be batting at No.9 or No.10 Position. Not at No.6.

Your Top 7 players should be solid batsmen who can win matches by sheer brilliance. Jaddu and Ashwin do not cut it in LOI.

Ashwin actually does, but not at No 7 or 8 (unless you play England style and he gets time). He's actually a classy, competent but slowish bat.
 
I don't want Jaddu out of the team. But he should be batting at No.9 or No.10 Position. Not at No.6.

Your Top 7 players should be solid batsmen who can win matches by sheer brilliance. Jaddu and Ashwin do not cut it in LOI.

Ashwin is fine at number 8/9.
 
India needs an excellent all rounder to balance the team. Playing Extra bowler is harming us when it comes to high chases now.

Kohli used to bail India out before. Not anymore.
 
If India lose, this is shameful. We lost with a whole new team, India have full strength side.

It may not be as shameful as loosing 3-0 to BDesh and then not qualifying for CT letting Bdesh go to England instead :))
 
Ashwin actually does, but not at No 7 or 8 (unless you play England style and he gets time). He's actually a classy, competent but slowish bat.

You really think Ashwin has the game for ODis at No 5 or 6 as you are saying?

Can't run fast.

Can't rotate strike against spinners.

Doesn't have gears.
 
You really think Ashwin has the game for ODis at No 5 or 6 as you are saying?

Can't run fast.

Can't rotate strike against spinners.

Doesn't have gears.

I just think we have seen him only in a role he's totally unsuited for. I do think that other than the running he has utility.

The key to understanding this is that he can never make a side as batsman alone. I'm saying there shouldn't be a mental block to putting a bowling allrounder ahead of a specialist batter if that's what the specifics of their games demand.
 
Finally, Raina gone....... Game over .....
 
Indian team currently is not as good as it seems on paper.

There are few pedestrians in this Indian ODI line-up.

Mohit Sharma - Not international class

Rahane - His only role can be opening for India overseas. Surely, not in Asia, that too in the middle order specially when Rayudu is in the squad. I rate Rayudu higher that most of the Indian fans.

Jadeja - Probably has come to his own after his purple patch both with bat and ball in 2013, too predictable as a bowler and don't have the game to play in lower order as a batsman

Kohli - Getting too much spotlight off late for no reasons and there is a bit of Shahzad in him with unwillingness to accept and rectify is mistakes, most prominent one being his issues with 5th stump away going deliveries

Dhoni - He isn't the same Dhoni as used to be. Most likely the quantity of cricket he is playing is getting better of him. For me, he should have retired from ODIs then tests and would have given up test captaincy. He was more valuable to Indian test team, than to ODIs, specially he has very little chance to make it to next WC. Anyways would like to see him batting at number 3 or 4. Not any lower.
 
Raina would have beasted going into the 40th over. THe one guy that can single handedly win the match for India is gone.
 
You really think Ashwin has the game for ODis at No 5 or 6 as you are saying?

Can't run fast.

Can't rotate strike against spinners.

Doesn't have gears.

If he can hit boundaries though it would be useful to try sending him in at 3 sometimes in big run chases, just to knock a quick 20 (10) or thereabouts to reduce some pressure for the incoming batsmen. Not that he has to be a big hitter to do such a role. Nuwan Kulasekara is hardly Muscles Marinara, and yet he did alright as a surprise tactical change.
 
Oh beautiful beautiful bowling !

This is Bangladesh's version of Wasim Akram's 2 in 2 in the 92 WC final :))

Superb bowling.
 
Here we all are talking about Ashwin's skills as a batsman, and he goes first ball. :asif
 
Good to see that 300 is still a very tough chase in Asia, unlike other parts of the world.
 
The one to Raina was fantastic, a slower delivery swinging in and chopped onto the stumps.

Those two balls by Mustafizur were better than anything served up by the England and NZ bowlers in their ODI series. Quite remarkable considering he's only played 10 FC games too !
 
Good to see that 300 is still a very tough chase in Asia, unlike other parts of the world.

Pitch spit venom for the first 15 overs under the lights. The exaggerated seam movement that BD got was too much for Indian batsmen. Their confidence was dented.
 
Lols Bangla destroying the rock stars here.
 
Indian team currently is not as good as it seems on paper.

There are few pedestrians in this Indian ODI line-up.

Mohit Sharma - Not international class

Rahane - His only role can be opening for India overseas. Surely, not in Asia, that too in the middle order specially when Rayudu is in the squad. I rate Rayudu higher that most of the Indian fans.

Jadeja - Probably has come to his own after his purple patch both with bat and ball in 2013, too predictable as a bowler and don't have the game to play in lower order as a batsman

Kohli - Getting too much spotlight off late for no reasons and there is a bit of Shahzad in him with unwillingness to accept and rectify is mistakes, most prominent one being his issues with 5th stump away going deliveries

Dhoni - He isn't the same Dhoni as used to be. Most likely the quantity of cricket he is playing is getting better of him. For me, he should have retired from ODIs then tests and would have given up test captaincy. He was more valuable to Indian test team, than to ODIs, specially he has very little chance to make it to next WC. Anyways would like to see him batting at number 3 or 4. Not any lower.

Add Bhuvi & remove Kohli.
 
Pitch spit venom for the first 15 overs under the lights. The exaggerated seam movement that BD got was too much for Indian batsmen. Their confidence was dented.

sorry, but your batsman got out against cutters. All 4 of the deliveries from Mustafizur were cutters
 
Indian team currently is not as good as it seems on paper.

There are few pedestrians in this Indian ODI line-up.

Mohit Sharma - Not international class

Rahane - His only role can be opening for India overseas. Surely, not in Asia, that too in the middle order specially when Rayudu is in the squad. I rate Rayudu higher that most of the Indian fans.

Jadeja - Probably has come to his own after his purple patch both with bat and ball in 2013, too predictable as a bowler and don't have the game to play in lower order as a batsman

Kohli - Getting too much spotlight off late for no reasons and there is a bit of Shahzad in him with unwillingness to accept and rectify is mistakes, most prominent one being his issues with 5th stump away going deliveries

Dhoni - He isn't the same Dhoni as used to be. Most likely the quantity of cricket he is playing is getting better of him. For me, he should have retired from ODIs then tests and would have given up test captaincy. He was more valuable to Indian test team, than to ODIs, specially he has very little chance to make it to next WC. Anyways would like to see him batting at number 3 or 4. Not any lower.

Mohit would not have played had our best ODI bowler not been out injured.

We really missed Shami today.
 
where is our friend Energetic?

he must be distributing mithai in the neighborhood :))
 
I don't blame this indian team , its the fans who made them rockstars and tend to place them above every team when the reality is they're not better then any other suffering team . they call everyone else medicore but BD put them to their spot.
 
Not really I just have a different opinion to you actually am just not a fan of timid seamers that have displayed enough to suggest they don't belong at the international level averaging 31 after 20 games, you glorify a 31 average by claiming it's fine because pakistani bowlers are rubbish; fantastic justification from you there have to agree.

I did not glorified him, i have always said he is 'mediocre' but not 'rubbish' . Then i brought the example of Ehsan Adil only when you claimed that Mohit sharma is not good enough to enter into pak team I am not his fan boy, i just defend him because he is after all an indian team member, and being an Indian fan i find it as a moral obligation to defend mohit against an unjustified claim, or atleast what i have felt. Infact you did the same to defend junaid against my 'claims' , but that does not make you his 'fanboy' either.

You believe mohit is rubbish and i think he is mediocre but not rubbish. We both agree to disagree, so lets this matter to end here. :)
 
This is what happens when Kohli fails in a Chase for India.

Brutally exposed over and over again.
 
5-fer !

Have Bangladesh finally cracked intl cricket ? Winning is a habit and they look so full of belief and confidence compared to the days where they'd just roll over with any slight bit of pressure.
 
Mohit would not have played had our best ODI bowler not been out injured.

We really missed Shami today.

he would have.Bhuvi would have missed out.

Shami,Mohit,Umesh was attack that did well in WC.Would have been retained
 
You see how poor Mohit is.

Cannot contribute zilch if he fails (usually) with the ball. He is playing worse than Aaron.
 
Mohit would not have played had our best ODI bowler not been out injured.

We really missed Shami today.

Then probably Sandeep will best fill his boots. Nehra could have been tried, was the best Indian bowler in IPL. Rishi Dhawan is not an answer. Looks pretty flat.
 
If this Mustafizur gains muscle then you are looking at an extra 3-4 mph. The left armer is talented for sure.
 
5-fer !

Have Bangladesh finally cracked intl cricket ? Winning is a habit and they look so full of belief and confidence compared to the days where they'd just roll over with any slight bit of pressure.

I think this is it. I remember when Bangladesh beat Australia in 2005, Ashraful hit a hundred, or something... they had this sort of awed look on their face that day, the Bangla cricketers, like they couldn't believe what they had done, like it was a fluke, something to savour. Now when they win a match the players look like it's just another day at the office. Such a commendable turnaround in attitude.
 
India needs personnel and Captaincy change.

MSD has been a great servant of India. Its time to hangup his boots.
 
I repeat Mustafizur has only played 10 FC games !

And he's about as well built as a toothpick. What a performance from the young lad.
 
:)) This kid is great, he looks like he's gonna take a wicket with every delivery !
 
Embarrassing to see Mohit bat. I know he is a tailender, but dude is batting like a mouse.
 
What a thrashing.

Well done BD. a 3-0 thrashing looks realistic against this side which is being led by the most useless captain in the world hell bent on picking his favorites and unwilling to do any tinkering with the side.
 
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