Bangladesh fumes as Pakistan denies genocide, war crimes in 1971

[Rafa]

Bangladesh observed its Victory Day on Wednesday to mark the defeat of Pakistan in 1971, when the country became independent after a nine-month war, against the backdrop of calls for Dhaka to cut ties with Islamabad for its denial of the genocide during the hostilities.

The Dhaka University has cut all academic ties with Pakistan and newspapers have run reports and analyses criticising Pakistan, while many citizens on the streets are furious.

Foreign minister AH Mahmood Ali has said Bangladesh is “assessing” ties with Pakistan and families of martyred intellectuals have called for cutting all diplomatic relations.

Bangladesh says the genocide claimed three million lives while about 10 million more were forced to flee to India and 200,000 women were raped.

Pakistan has for long claimed there was no genocide in 1971. Pakistan’s recent statement criticising the execution of two convicted war criminals – Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) leader Salahuddin Quader Chowdhury and Jamaat-e-Islami leader Ali Ahsan Mohammad Mojahid –also infuriated Bangladesh.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...mes-in-1971/story-YvM6zFMiFcacrPTulelFvO.html

Bangladesh still stuck in the 70s and refusing to move forward.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

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Bangladesh still stuck in the 70s and refusing to move forward.

Maybe their own current affairs are not comfortable subjects. Atheist bloggers being executed, Indians blocking illegal Bangla immigrants and Rohingyas being driven out of Burma and Sri Lanka accused of being illegal Bangladeshi immigrants. Not great times for the nation, but we should wish them prosperity for the future.

 

[King Cobra]

Why doesn't Pakistan just accept the number of people killed and raped by their Genocidal Army of 1971, offer an apology and get over it once and for all.

Denying it forever will not erase historical events.

 

[Zak_Fan]

I am with Bangladesh here. What Pakistan did in Bangladesh was actually a lot worse than anything people can imagine. Army started a rape spree and Bangladeshi Hindus were the first targets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide

It is no secret, so I don't understand why Pakistan is denying all this.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Most Pakistani intellectuals admit Bangla war was a total mess up and the current regime would do an honourable job to own up to all the atrocities committed against the Bengalis in 71 and just apologize sincerely. Bangladesh today is a rising economy and it makes sense to develop good relationships with them. You don't want too many neighbours annoyed with you.



Anyway, Long live Bangladesh. My own family members fought alongside Bengalis in 71 to gain your freedom. Do well.


Your Indian brother,
Freelance.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Have to finally accept that some members of my family fell dead by themselves.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Maybe their own current affairs are not comfortable subjects. Atheist bloggers being executed, Indians blocking illegal Bangla immigrants and Rohingyas being driven out of Burma and Sri Lanka accused of being illegal Bangladeshi immigrants. Not great times for the nation, but we should wish them prosperity for the future.

Don't underestimate their pains Cpt. Just checked some reports, it is hard to imagine the scale of what Bangladeshis went through in a matter of few months. Takes generations to recover from such mental scars.

Bangladesh's official figures say Pakistani soldiers, aided by local collaborators, killed an estimated three million people, raped about 200,000 women and forced millions more to flee their homes during the war.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2010/03/2010325151839747356.html

 

[King Cobra]

Have to finally accept that some members of my family fell dead by themselves.

Why did your family's members opted Pakistan over India anyway ? I don't get why so many Bengali Hindus opted to staying In East Pakistan instead of crossing over to India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why did your family's members opted Pakistan over India anyway ? I don't get why so many Bengali Hindus opted to staying In East Pakistan instead of crossing over to India.

My grandfather and his younger brother moved to Kolkata in 1946.His other two brothers stayed in East Pakistan.They had businesses houses properties etc they had their entire life in that place.Plus Jinnah had assured Hindus of their rights.Also in 1971 they killed all bengalis be hindu or muslim.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Why did your family's members opted Pakistan over India anyway ? I don't get why so many Bengali Hindus opted to staying In East Pakistan instead of crossing over to India.

I agree, it would have been doable back then, nowadays not so much with the fence erected to prevent Bangladeshi illegal immigrants crossing over.

 

[Raw deal]

Bangladesh is the most crushing defeat on Pakistan 's history and in the subcontinent. The mental scars of our Parosis are very evident in every Bangladesh related threads.

 

[Syed1]

How many times we have to apologize? Every time 16th of December comes round?

We have moved on from '71 its been 45 freaking years. Bangladesh should try some other route to gain prominence

 

[Cosmic]

Mukhta Bahni ( The Organization ) Member Should be revealed and tell Who (were behind these atrocities, Pakistan should help Punjab to get independce.. benazir was dumb in international Policy... And we should ask the lower cast people in india if they need a different country, well then let make a agency that will help them.. indians should be ashamed of themselves,

They try to involve in the matters of karachi and balochistan, their intentions were defeated...

India Should be divided into 10 countries, an honest opinion...

 

[Bhaijaan]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Sorry for your loss brother. I must say credit to you for still being a massive Pakistan wellwisher. We all need to keep our grudges aside and be bigger humans.

 

[King Cobra]

My grandfather and his younger brother moved to Kolkata in 1946.His other two brothers stayed in East Pakistan.They had businesses houses properties etc they had their entire life in that place.Plus Jinnah had assured Hindus of their rights.Also in 1971 they killed all bengalis be hindu or muslim.

Sorry to hear about your loss Man, I can only imagine what the families of those who lost their lives must be feeling every time Pakistan denies the involvement of its army in the genocide.

 

[Indian_Supporter]

Let's talk something relevant. Do you believe Bangladeshi reaction is justified?

They will never do. I have noticed a recent trend here, any thread which is opened highlighting the problems of Pakistan always get side tracked deliberately. Posters bring illogical discussions about OP agenda, fake news etc. and create so much ruckus that eventually thread gets deleted. The same posters stick to topic come an India thread.
Hence I have decided to stop posting on time pass as few posters can accept harsh facts.

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[TSA321]

Don't underestimate their pains Cpt. Just checked some reports, it is hard to imagine the scale of what Bangladeshis went through in a matter of few months. Takes generations to recover from such mental scars.

Bangladesh's official figures say Pakistani soldiers, aided by local collaborators, killed an estimated three million people, raped about 200,000 women and forced millions more to flee

Yes they should apologise, but those figures have been proven to be bs.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bangladesh never forget about this day because they owe their existence to it , must be very embarrassing for Pakistan.

Bangladesh organize a World Cup and even in the opening ceremony play a clip dedicated to the martyrs of 1971 .

Why is it embarrassing to Pakistan? It's not like India accepted Bengalis back into their fold, far from it. They have erected a fence at the border to keep them out. I think Bangladesh was a logical outcome and as a nation Pakistan will always wish them well and extend a warm welcome to our brothers. No fences necessary.

 

[TOP SPINNER_01]

God what a sissy country it was in the 60s and 70s,directionless really..Thanks to G Zia in the 80s we got something,a direction,an ideology,an expansionist foreign policy.defeat for the then super power was just a start,now here we are the most important country in the world,little unsettled but in a right dirction,as for Banglasdesh no one care about them.But if they accept their mistakes we will welcome them bcuz they are our brothers.

 

[hafeezrocks]

I have seen more Indians than Bangladeshis mourning over the events of 1971

 

[Saeed]

Whatever happened was wrong but Pakistan has already apologized. Even the Bangla bros don't complain since most Pakistanis see them as our brothers in faith. Please don't cite a biased source next time. Best wishes to Bangladesh and hopefully we will see a greater Bengal one day.

 

[Madplayer]

I want to know if the figures that bangladesh puts forward are accurate or exaggerated?

 

[sshakir411]

Sorry to hear about your loss Man, I can only imagine what the families of those who lost their lives must be feeling every time Pakistan denies the involvement of its army in the genocide.

so are you saying the loss of his family members is amplified just because Pakistan denies their involvement? Are you crazy? like do you not have a brain?

Millions of people died during independence of every country...all loss of human life is sad. Period. Regardless what religion, nationality, or race they belong to. And the loss of loved one hurts always regardless of the perpetrator accepting or denying anything.

Just making it sound like the loss of Bengalis directly by Pakistan is a bigger loss than all other Bengalis who died during independence. Don't belittle human life.

You're so star plus that it actually grosses me out.

 

[Zak_Fan]

I want to know if the figures that bangladesh puts forward are accurate or exaggerated?

All the sources point to 200,000 to 400,000 rapes. As for the murders -

The historian R J Rummel, who has looked as deeply into it as anyone, concludes that the “final estimate of Pakistan’s democide to be 300,000 to 3,000,000, or a prudent 1,500,000.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/the-war-bangladesh-can-never-forget-8501636.html

Nobody knows exactly how many people were killed, but certainly a huge number of people lost their lives. Independent researchers think that between 300,000 and 500,000 died. The Bangladesh government puts the figure at three million.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-16207201

 

[KeyboardWarrior]

Maybe their own current affairs are not comfortable subjects. Atheist bloggers being executed, Indians blocking illegal Bangla immigrants and Rohingyas being driven out of Burma and Sri Lanka accused of being illegal Bangladeshi immigrants. Not great times for the nation, but we should wish them prosperity for the future.

you forgt ISIS problem.

also, these will be patroling on thre borders very soon ....

 

[HaiderAbbasRizvi]

Would Bangladesh apologize for massacres of pro Pakistan people and/or Pakistanis before, during and after '71 and to this day by Mukhti Bahani and later the state of Bangladesh?

 

[Pakpak]

All the sources point to 200,000 to 400,000 rapes. As for the murders -

There were 90,000 Pakistani army personnel in BD. Out of which only roughly 40,000 were combat troops. There is no way 40k troops in 6 months killed half a million Bengalis while simultaneously facing the Indians and a massive rebellion inside BD. It would have meant killing 33,000-50000 every month during the 9 months.

An Indian author recently also put the number which is far lower. Its obviously still sick and condemnable but lets not rewrite history.

And like Capt said, its the Indians here getting their knickers in a twist while BD posters barely post.

 

[Pakpak]

They will never do. I have noticed a recent trend here, any thread which is opened highlighting the problems of Pakistan always get side tracked deliberately. Posters bring illogical discussions about OP agenda, fake news etc. and create so much ruckus that eventually thread gets deleted. The same posters stick to topic come an India thread.
Hence I have decided to stop posting on time pass as few posters can accept harsh facts.

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Because we are sick of Indian trolls, who come with a different nick everytime and take pathetic digs at matters which do not concern India in anyway.

I am sure forums like Bharat Rakshak or ICF will welcome 'harsh facts' on Pakistan if you're that desperate.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I want to know if the figures that bangladesh puts forward are accurate or exaggerated?

3mn may be exxagerated.But the actual figure may be somewhere between 1mn to 3mn.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Would Bangladesh apologize for massacres of pro Pakistan people and/or Pakistanis before, during and after '71 and to this day by Mukhti Bahani and later the state of Bangladesh?

How is it your concern once it became a Independent country?

 

[Pakpak]

3mn may be exxagerated.But the actual figure may be somewhere between 1mn to 3mn.

Yes, Pakistanis killed 1 million Bengalis in under 9 months. That's the equivalent of everyone in the Iraq war being killed under a year by 50,000 troops which faced hundreds of thousands of Indians and tens of thousands of rebels at the same time.

But then again accepting anything resembling common sense from you is like wishing a troll-Indian-free PP.

 

[Syed1]

3mn may be exxagerated.But the actual figure may be somewhere between 1mn to 3mn.

Similar number was killed when Pakistan was formed, do you see us crying about it everytime 14th August comes around?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Similar number was killed when Pakistan was formed, do you see us crying about it everytime 14th August comes around?

That was partition.Same number of people died in India.It wasnt a state sponsored army authored Genocide.

Anyways i am glad my family came to India in 1946.But those who stayed behind well they have horror stories to tell.

 

[Pakpak]

So most international authors are lying?Right?

Pathetic how people defend this.

A lot of people also think the figure is wrong.

If Hitler couldn't kill more than 6 million jews in 6 years with an industrial setup and a massive miliatary then no way we could have killed 3 million in UNDER A YEAR with 50000 troops with no air force facing hundreds of thousands of Indians and rebels at the same frigging time.

Is common sense too much for you?

 

[Markhor]

Why doesn't Pakistan just accept the number of people killed and raped by their Genocidal Army of 1971, offer an apology and get over it once and for all.

Denying it forever will not erase historical events.

Musharraf did apologise IIRC.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor.../1403185/Musharraf-apology-to-Bangladesh.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

A lot of people also think the figure is wrong.

If Hitler couldn't kill more than 6 million jews in 6 years with an industrial setup and a massive miliatary then no way we could have killed 3 million in a YEAR with 50000 troops facing hundreds of thousands of Indians and rebels.

Is common sense too much for you?

Go read most neutral observers.They speak of a figure between 1mn and 3mn.Though 3mn is exxagerated.A figure close to 1mn isnt.

 

[Pakpak]

Musharraf did apologise IIRC.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor.../1403185/Musharraf-apology-to-Bangladesh.html

You'll be repeating this post every year.

 

[Pakpak]

Go read most neutral observers.They speak of a figure between 1mn and 3mn.Though 3mn is exxagerated.A figure close to 1mn isnt.

Yes. 50,000 people killed 1 million people (equivalent of all causalities in the Iraq War, even that bloodbath took a decade) while facing two enemies at the same time.

Even Assad's taking years to get to that number, that's including the scum ISIS. But we did it in 9 months.

God's given you a brain, use it.

 

[asyed]

So most international authors are lying?Right?

Pathetic how people defend this.

Let's put it this way. You should realize the fact how others would've feel when you defend BCCI same way all the time!

 

[Pakpak]

Go read most neutral observers.They speak of a figure between 1mn and 3mn.Though 3mn is exxagerated.A figure close to 1mn isnt.

Also, whenever its an Indian matter you tell others to take a hike. Do the same here.

 

[sshakir411]

Musharraf did apologise IIRC.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor.../1403185/Musharraf-apology-to-Bangladesh.html

don't you know we should apologize every year...oh and I don't see an apology given to India.

shocking this Indian moral brigade is usually quiet when anything India related is brought up.

 

[eradicator]

Disheartening to see the refusal to acknowledge the extent of genocide committed by the Brave Fawj, no wonder why Bangladesh has still not got over those events tall this date.

 

[Syed1]

That was partition.Same number of people died in India.It wasnt a state sponsored army authored Genocide.

Anyways i am glad my family came to India in 1946.But those who stayed behind well they have horror stories to tell.

Bhai phir rotay raho zindagi bhar. Europeans killed millions of each other's citizen and they all have moved on, the only time Bangladesh was relevant for the world was on 16th December 1971 and they like to cry about till now just so they can stay relevant.


Even Japan doesn't cry this much for the two nuclear bombs on it soil

 

[cricketjoshila]

Bhai phir rotay raho zindagi bhar. Europeans killed millions of each other's citizen and they all have moved on, the only time Bangladesh was relevant for the world was on 16th December 1971 and they like to cry about till now just so they can stay relevant.


Even Japan doesn't cry this much for the two nuclear bombs on it soil

Do you even know geo politics?

China till this day has issues with Japan for WW2 genocides like Nanjing.

So now you decide whether a country of 160mn is relevant or not.Who are you exactly?No wonder those people separated from Pakistan.

And whats this with people like you?

BD talks about 1971.Move on,phir ro rahay hai etc etc.

Indians talk about 26/11.Move on,phir ro rahay hai etc etc.

Do you even realise how poorly this reflects on Pakistanis?

 

[cricketjoshila]

[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Sorry for your loss brother. I must say credit to you for still being a massive Pakistan wellwisher. We all need to keep our grudges aside and be bigger humans.

Why should i have an issue with ordinary Pakistani?They didnt come out with guns and killed Bengalis in Bangladesh.But as you know i have little respect for the Pak Army.

 

[cricketjoshila]

No wonder you're full of hatred against Pakistan. A lot of us were also affected when Indian mobs butchered Muslims and killed off generations during partition but we don't carry that hate all our lives like you do on this forum.

Musharraf apologised, Bangladesh can fume all it wants. Hasina is taking them to a very good place anyway.

Did i ask for an apology?Nopes.Apologies dont matter when the persons involved went scot free.

And dont compare the partition to this.Pakistani mobs butchered Hindus and Sikhs too.

But 1971 was a state sponsored army authored genocide.

And dont mistake by atitude towards your army as the same for your country.

 

[AlphaFighter]

War Crimes were committed by both sides. Both Pakistani army and Mukhti Bahini, some even argue that whatever the Pakistani army did was just in retaliation to what the Mukhti Bahini was doing but i personally believe in these situations two wrongs don't make a right.

I believe the Pakistani govt has expressed regrets and even apologies in the past. How many times do we have to apologize for the events of 1971?

 

[Zak_Fan]

Yes. 50,000 people killed 1 million people (equivalent of all causalities in the Iraq War, even that bloodbath took a decade) while facing two enemies at the same time.

Even Assad's taking years to get to that number, that's including the scum ISIS. But we did it in 9 months.

God's given you a brain, use it.

Can't believe this defensive approach from some posters. Even neutral and most reputed sources/historians say that at least 300,000 women were raped while around a million murdered.

Yes, Bangladesh's 3 million number may be a little over the top, but why try to distort the history citing silly arguments? Pakistani army did something horrible, let's just accept it and move on.

 

[Syed1]

War Crimes were committed by both sides. Both Pakistani army and Mukhti Bahini, some even argue that whatever the Pakistani army did was just in retaliation to what the Mukhti Bahini was doing but i personally believe in these situations two wrongs don't make a right.

I believe the Pakistani govt has expressed regrets and even apologies in the past. How many times do we have to apologize for the events of 1971?

We don't! Pakistan has more pressing issues to deal with rather than worry about cry babies in a different country have to say about us. Beside by 2050 the rising sea level will completely submerge Bangladesh anyway.

 

[Pakpak]

Did i ask for an apology?Nopes.Apologies dont matter when the persons involved went scot free.

And dont compare the partition to this.Pakistani mobs butchered Hindus and Sikhs too.

But 1971 was a state sponsored army authored genocide.

And dont mistake by atitude towards your army as the same for your country.

You won't find many dispute that. Its the figure they will dispute.

As for your last line, there is not a SINGLE positive thing I have EVER seen you post about Pakistan in the half a decade I have been here.

 

[czar]

Cricketjoshila is like the Sunny Deol of this forum, 1 Indian against 100 Pakistanis over whatever maybe the issue, be it defending Indian Cricketers, BCCI or Indias policy as a country in a fair way.

Massive respect.

 

[Zak_Fan]

You won't find many dispute that. Its the figure they will dispute.

As for your last line, there is not a SINGLE positive thing I have EVER seen you post about Pakistan in the half a decade I have been here.

Some people like to highlight the negatives and as long as they speak truth, they are only adding value to this forum.

 

[Pakpak]

Can't believe this defensive approach from some posters. Even neutral and most reputed sources/historians say that at least 300,000 women were raped while around a million murdered.

Yes, Bangladesh's 3 million number may be a little over the top, but why try to distort the history citing silly arguments? Pakistani army did something horrible, let's just accept it and move on.

From a figure of about 300,000 killed (even that's ridiculous as I said Assad hasn't killed that many even with vigour or the Iraqi causalities took a decade) you're saying Bengalis inflating a figure by ten fold is a ''little over the top''? Its nonsense and the ridiculous propaganda that should be countered everytime its uttered.

We have moved on, it seems even Bengalis have considering their positive attitude to us bar Hasina, the only ones whining are, surprise surprise, Indians.

 

[sshakir411]

Some people like to highlight the negatives and as long as they speak truth, they are only adding value to this forum.

too bad you guys get your girly panties in a twist if any Indian negativity is highlighted. Go look up any thread...start with the man killed for eating beef in India. Your fellow dumb countrymen actually defended the no beef policy. shame you have double standards...like most Indians.

 

[Zak_Fan]

From a figure of about 300,000 killed (even that's ridiculous as I said Assad hasn't killed that many even with vigour or the Iraqi causalities took a decade) you're saying Bengalis inflating a figure by ten fold is a ''little over the top''? Its nonsense and the ridiculous propaganda that should be countered everytime its uttered.

We have moved on, it seems even Bengalis have considering their positive attitude to us bar Hasina, the only ones whining are, surprise surprise, Indians.

Bro, 750 Muslims and 250 Hindus died in that infamous Gujarat riot, and posters here accuse Modi of killing thousands of Muslims. Emotionally charged people tend to exaggerate the numbers.

Now imagine what it will be like for Bangladesh. 300,000 women raped, around half a million to a million people killed, the way they react is understandable. It was literally a generation being wiped out and yet Pakistan's stance has been a consistent denial. Not cool.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/27/opinion/anam-pakistans-overdue-apology.html

 

[cricketjoshila]

You won't find many dispute that. Its the figure they will dispute.

As for your last line, there is not a SINGLE positive thing I have EVER seen you post about Pakistan in the half a decade I have been here.

Then may be you havent read my posts about Wasim Saqlain Imran Lahore Pakistani food or my article on Zimbabwe tour of Pakistan.

 

[Pakpak]

Bro, 750 Muslims and 250 Hindus died in that infamous Gujarat riot, and posters here accuse Modi of killing thousands of Muslims. Emotionally charged people tend to exaggerate the numbers.

Now imagine what it will be like for Bangladesh. 300,000 women raped, around half a million to a million people killed, the way they react is understandable. It was literally a generation being wiped out and yet Pakistan's stance has been a consistent denial.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/27/opinion/anam-pakistans-overdue-apology.html

Musharraf apologised.

Again, you're not Bengali so I'll use Joshila bhai's logic (the great poster who according to you posts 'truths'), which is its not an Indian matter. Hence not your concern.

 

[sshakir411]

Bro, 750 Muslims and 250 Hindus died in that infamous Gujarat riot, and posters here accuse Modi of killing thousands of Muslims. Emotionally charged people tend to exaggerate the numbers.

Now imagine what it will be like for Bangladesh. 300,000 women raped, around half a million to a million people killed, the way they react is understandable. It was literally a generation being wiped out and yet Pakistan's stance has been a consistent denial. Not cool.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/27/opinion/anam-pakistans-overdue-apology.html

good to see you skipped the post where someone shared Musharrafs official apology. Typical Indian you are!!

 

[Pakpak]

Then may be you havent read my posts about Wasim Saqlain Imran Lahore Pakistani food or my article on Zimbabwe tour of Pakistan.

I can remember freelance posting positive stuff (even in his current troll phase), I can remember IndianWillow doing the same yet you never have I seen post anything positive. At all. Anything negative about Pakistan and you're the first to jump.

 

[Pakpak]

I'm not making that up, even parts of southern Pakistan and India will be submerged, but since Bangladesh as a whole is at or slightly above sea level it will be effected the most!

This is true, they already face chronic flooding.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I can remember freelance posting positive stuff (even in his current troll phase), I can remember IndianWillow doing the same yet you never have I seen post anything positive. At all. Anything negative about Pakistan and you're the first to jump.

As i said look up.And i cant post just for the sake of it.I praise a lot of things abt Pakistan and Pakistanis

 

[Pakpak]

As i said look up.And i cant post just for the sake of it.I praise a lot of things abt Pakistan and Pakistanis

If you ever posted anything else other than defending BCCI or Indian policies 24/7 perhaps then I'd believe you.

 

[Thivagar]

Learned about this in my University. 3 million people in 9 month is a massive number. Surprisingly most of the Pakistani students took it very well, except for this Paindo international student. Surprised they haven't accept it yet.

not surprised by some of the stupid comments.

 

[Dios]

Bhai phir rotay raho zindagi bhar. Europeans killed millions of each other's citizen and they all have moved on, the only time Bangladesh was relevant for the world was on 16th December 1971 and they like to cry about till now just so they can stay relevant.


Even Japan doesn't cry this much for the two nuclear bombs on it soil

Again I ask you what relevance does Pakistan have to the world other than security concerns and being a failed state? Bangladeshis have no interest in being relevant in that manner.

 

[Zak_Fan]

good to see you skipped the post where someone shared Musharrafs official apology. Typical Indian you are!!

Whenever you quote me, I don't understand why you get so personal. I'll leave the topic, but read the following link if you want. It may explain why Bangladeshis don't see that as an apology and why your very own Pakistani writer actually sides with Bangladesh on this issue. Good night bhai.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/471715/why-pakistan-should-apologise-to-bangladesh/

 

[Dios]

What has it failed as, cooking fish and chips?

Bangladesh has no influence in the world, it's only seen as a lapdog to India with an improving cricketing team and emotional supporters. Get with reality.

What has Pakistan failed at? Where do I get started?

I didn't say Bangladesh had any influence and neither do Bangladeshis want any influence over the world. But you guys need to stop deluding yourself into thinking that you are anything more than a headache to the rest of the world.

 

[Dios]

Lol Bangladeshis have no interest in exerting influence and importance in the Pakistani shtyle by sponsoring terrorism in other countries. The only reason Pakistan is brought up in world discussions is to discuss how long before the loonies take over which is just a matter of time and an inevitability at this point.

The only news you read about Pakistan is x number of Shias/Ahmadis etc. killed in market bomb. 'Pakistan is seen as an important nation to have diplomatic ties by all the major world powers.' Lol get real bro.

 

[Dios]

If by diplomatic ties you mean to make sure the Taliban doesn't get a hold of Pakistan's nukes then yes the whole world is concerned about that.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Swap Pakistan's land with Somalia, and even it will acquire the same global significance because US needs a disposable base in this region.

Get real bro. Why do you think Afganistan is important? Is it something to be proud of?

US can have bases in India who looks up to them, it's in the region also.

Afghanistan isn't important, there's just a war going on there.

 

[KingKhanWC]

If by diplomatic ties you mean to make sure the Taliban doesn't get a hold of Pakistan's nukes then yes the whole world is concerned about that.

While you're at it, start a thread on how nuclear powers are controlled, their security in Pakistan and how the TTP will get hold of them.

You will be a busy chap proving the stuff you write.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Its funny how some Pakistanis come here and dismiss a country of 160mn as insignificant.Its better that other posters dont retaliate in kind.and discuss the actual issue here which is the 1971 Bengali Genocide.

 

[cricketjoshila]

US can have bases in India who looks up to them, it's in the region also.

Afghanistan isn't important, there's just a war going on there.

India doesnt allow foreigners to put their military bases inside India and no we dont look up to anyone.The world knows which country takes orders from US.

Afghanistan isnt important thats why US/NATO Soviet/Russia Pakistan everyone is trying to exert infuence there.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Its funny how some Pakistanis come here and dismiss a country of 160mn as insignificant.Its better that other posters dont retaliate in kind.and discuss the actual issue here which is the 1971 Bengali Genocide.

Sure, you can start with the war crimes committed by the 'freedom fighters' and supported by the Indian army.

 

[Syed1]

While you're at it, start a thread on how nuclear powers are controlled, their security in Pakistan and how the TTP will get hold of them.

You will be a busy chap proving the stuff you write.

Lol these guys think that Pak has nuclear bombs just lying around on the side of the road

 

[KingKhanWC]

India doesnt allow foreigners to put their military bases inside India and no we dont look up to anyone.The world knows which country takes orders from US.

Afghanistan isnt important thats why US/NATO Soviet/Russia Pakistan everyone is trying to exert infuence there.

A foreign base on your land doesn't give the invited forces a free hand over the territory, they have to communicate with the host nation.

India doesn't need bases to prove it's subservient political agenda to the western nations. You can also start a thread on this, it's an interesting topic esp from an Indian POV.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Sure, you can start with the war crimes committed by the 'freedom fighters' and supported by the Indian army.

These supposed war crimes which only few blinded Pakistanis only see.

 

[enkidu_]

It's not about numbers, Pak Army acted like animals and goons with what was still "their" population, and there's no way to justify it. You don't see Germans supporting the Nazi atrocities despite the fact that a large percentage of their population voted for Hitler, while it's quite ironic to see some cheering for Pak Army when Pakistan's civilians have always been at the receiving end of the military establishment.

Remaining culprits alive should be thrown in Dhaka and be dealt by Bangladeshis (not even its judiciary system).

 

[cricketjoshila]

A foreign base on your land doesn't give the invited forces a free hand over the territory, they have to communicate with the host nation.

Really?We know what happens when foreign forces build bases in other countries.

India doesn't need bases to prove it's subservient political agenda to the western nations. You can also start a thread on this, it's an interesting topic esp from an Indian POV.
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You wish India was subservient to western nations.Thats why we have independent foreign policy and dont toe US or NATO line.Neither do we allow them bases in our land.Nor do they use our land to bomb our people or bomb others.LOL.Lets not even talk about dear Arabs.

 

[KingKhanWC]

These supposed war crimes which only few blinded Pakistanis only see.

Mainly Bihari's I would say.

 

[sshakir411]

India doesnt allow foreigners to put their military bases inside India and no we dont look up to anyone.The world knows which country takes orders from US.

Afghanistan isnt important thats why US/NATO Soviet/Russia Pakistan everyone is trying to exert infuence there.

Pakistan takes orders from the US?...and yet we support Al Qaeda and Taliban?If your statement is true, you should blame the US for 26/11

fix your narrative bhai, this does not add up. Either you're a know it all or the Americans are incapable of putting the 2 together.


What a joke.