Bangladesh v England | 1st Test | Chittagong | 12-16/3/2010

[Amjid Javed]

Tamim needs to score a big hundred or even double here to bail bangladesh out of a huge whole. AT moment they are staring at a huge defeat!

 

[Amjid Javed]

swann took a wicket in his 1st over for 12 th time in his shortcareer thats a great feat to achieve!

 

[Kriketer]

swann took a wicket in his 1st over for 12 th time in his shortcareer thats a great feat to achieve!

wow 12th time? now that's an impressive achievement.

England is all over Bangladesh here. Don't know when our Bangla brothers will give a very strong fight to their opponents. They hardly ever start strongly.

 

[Amjid Javed]

wow 12th time? now that's an impressive achievement.

England is all over Bangladesh here. Don't know when our Bangla brothers will give a very strong fight to their opponents. They hardly ever start strongly.

Swanns one of best spinners around in world game, makes u wonder why took england so long to pick him!

 

[bullseye7]

Well, that's Steyn at present, and Tamin averages 12 against SA. It would appear that Steyn conquered Tamim with ease.

Look, your boy obviously has batting talent - it's not his record I have an issue with - rather your hyperbole regarding him.

I think credit should be given where due. I consider Shane Bond better than Steyn. Look what the Indians did to to Steyn in the home ground recently. He was shredded to pieces. A true qualty bowler is good on all grounds like Glenn McGrath , Shane Warne, Murali who can be devastating on any grounds. These guys have proved time again that they are cut above thr rest. Steyn also have a poor record in IPL although I do not give any importance to ths format.

I am not questioning Steyn. Along with Bond are the modern masters of fast bowling. But in order to be truly called great one shoud be deadly and equally effective on all grounds. Can Steyn boat of that record?


BTW, I fully stand by my observations of Tamim and this is so.

Hope this helps .

 

[James]

*** is going on in this thread? Dale Steyn has just had 2 great series against England and India including his test best 7-50 against India IN INDIA and is clearly the world's best bowler, Bond is on the brink of full retirement and has barely played any matches - 17 tests is pathetic.

Right forgot about Umar. He should be there. Mushfiq and Kamran are about equal although Mushfiq has been very consistent witht the bat lately. And if we go with one spinner Shakib>Kaneria anyday. There was no turn on Day 1 at all and England took full advantage of that. If England bat again you'll see Shakib ripping the English batsmen apart.

there are so so so many things wrong with this post. I think Bangladesh are a bit comical as a test side, but I' m not cruel and don't want their whole infrastructure to fail completely. However, when someone comes out with this much pompous, biased tosh then what can I do other than fire back, get a grip mate, you're 450 runs behind and been completely dominated for the whole tour, your team are pants and you're going to lose. Even if it rains for five sessions, in the position you're in now, you would probably still lose.

 

[Afridi_Fan]

I'm not following this game.

Can someone tell me how many wickets the might All-Rounder Shakib got and how many he scored? As he was potentially more dangerous than our very own

 

[James]

1-133 from 34 overs and 1 run from 20 balls and 30 minutes, plus a village shot in the penultimate over that has pretty much sealed the team losing, and a Ponting-esque 'we're gonna have a bowl this morning mate'

BRRRRRR!

 

[Afridi_Fan]

1-133 from 34 overs and 1 run from 20 balls and 30 minutes, plus a village shot in the penultimate over that has pretty much sealed the team losing, and a Ponting-esque 'we're gonna have a bowl this morning mate'

BRRRRRR!

Ah! Indeed he is very dangerous for Bangladesh that is.

Let him play against West Indies C side and beat the crap out of Zimbabwe and once again he will be a hero.

 

[James]

Swann is a better allrounder, surely? averages 30 with bat and we actually play and beat decent teams, and a genuinely class bowler (that is making a bunny out of Shakib on this tour, which is particularly appropriate)

 

[bullseye7]

Shakib I guess is not in the right frame of mind either capataincywise, bowling or batting which is a matter of concern. But one swallow does not make a summer. Even the greatest of batsman, bowler or captain can have a bad day when nothing seems to work right. He is a level headed guy, good student and good thinker and learner of the game. I am sure if wickets starts to spin he will put up a better performance with bowling and make amends for his first innings batting lapse. It was also a tactical mistake to have sent him instead of Rahim.

Realistically England should win and deservingly so as their batting depth is miles ahead of BD though not neccesarrily their bowling. BD top order batsmen has themselves to blame in not been able to negotiate an above average English pace attack. But Tamim and Mahmudullah has shown that if you have the skill you can counter them and English pace or spin is not diabolic as it is made to look.

BD has a long tail with bowlers Razzaq and Shahadat able to bat a bit and possess technically correct defence.

Nayeem, Rahim has shown in the past that they can rise to the occasion and put some stiff fight.

However at this point Swann has been delivering knockout punches and clearly the danger man. I won't be surprised if he wraps up things sooner than expected.

Let's see what happens.

 

[Khabri420]

Tamim gone early, Bangladesh looking to be bundled out cheaply.

163/6

 

[James]

just woken up. 320 lead is still very strong, but this has gone on longer than I'd like. the 2nd new ball is available now, so hopefully the tide turns back in our favour soon.

 

[anakin]

Grt fight back by Banglas........... Hope this leads to something

 

[James]

run out out of nowhere! another load of tosh between the wickets from 2 Bangladeshi batsmen, but good thinking from Carberry. Just what we needed,

 

[Khabri420]

Mushfiqur gone now, great catch.

Bangladesh in a hurry now.

 

[James]

oooooo bat again or bowl again?

 

[James]

haha I think the transmission died and we came back to 296/10, another Swann 5-for in test cricket, and the decision to bat again! which is the right one IMO. yayy.

 

[bullseye7]

Great fightback by Rahim and Nayeem

Great fightback by Rahim and Nayeem 103 priceless runs in a crisis situation.

Well done & Congrats Rahim & Nayeem!

 

[Easa]

there are so so so many things wrong with this post. I think Bangladesh are a bit comical as a test side, but I' m not cruel and don't want their whole infrastructure to fail completely. However, when someone comes out with this much pompous, biased tosh then what can I do other than fire back, get a grip mate, you're 450 runs behind and been completely dominated for the whole tour, your team are pants and you're going to lose. Even if it rains for five sessions, in the position you're in now, you would probably still lose.

)) ) ouch.

That was harsh but true.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Swann is a better spinner than Shakib, the best spinner in the world at the moment. He'll do well in the Ashes.

 

[bullseye7]

Batting order reshuffle needed in BD second innings

Tamim (86), Mahmudullah (51), Mushfiqur Rahim (79) & Naeem Islam(38) showed English attack was nothing extraordinary. It was just about playing with proper cricketing skills and applying according to the needs of the situation.

Had the first innings flop masters contributed an average of 30, BD would have been able to muster a 400+ score which would have added respectability to their score.

But the fact that the innings did not fold after Tamim’s demise is no mean achievement.

It was great to see both Rahim and Nayeem put a price tag on their wickets and the English bowler had to sweat it out to get it.

Great job by Rahim and Nayeem for their never say die attitude and giving the Englishmen a run for their money.

BD will need to reshuffle the batting order in order to avoid any possible embarrassment by first innings flop masters. Aftab basically one Day player and Shakib unpredictable should come down further to give Rahim and Nayeem more time to spend at the middle and build up a good score.

Ideally the second innings batting order should go as follows:

1.Tamim Iqbal
2.Imrul Kayes
3.Junaid Siddique
4.Mahmudullah
5.Mushfiqur Rahim
6.Naeem Islam
7.Shakib Al Hasan
8.Aftab Ahmed
9.Shahadat Hossain
10.Abdur Razzak
11.Rubel Hossain

One hopes Jamie and Shakib will think out of the box and reshuffle the batting border in BD second innings in the greater interest of the team.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

I think Junaid, Imrul, Aftab and Rubel needs to be replaced by Jahurul islam, Faisal Hossain, Dhiman Ghosh (we need a proper keeper) and Shurowardi Shuvo( he can flight and turn the ball).

 

[Khabri420]

I think Junaid, Imrul, Aftab and Rubel needs to be replaced by Jahurul islam, Faisal Hossain, Dhiman Ghosh (we need a proper keeper) and Shurowardi Shuvo( he can flight and turn the ball).

I agree. Mushfiqur needs to be played as a specialist batsmen (has a very good temperament), his keeping abilities aren't the greatest.

 

[James]

Aftab is reeeeeealy bad. always thought himself and Ashraful are the worst cricketers in living memory to ever be spoken of highly. if you get 3 or 4 lads that have the same attitude as your higher scorers here, a decent batting lineup could piece itself together over the next few years.

 

[James]

A dismal piece of fielding from Shahadat brings up 4000 test runs for Cook, averages 44 and 2nd youngest man to reach milestone behind SRT, a year ago his continued flattering to deceive had his days numbered but he's come back tremendously well

 

[James]

hm, any stats guru out there? I don't know if an England batsman has ever scored twin hundreds in his first test as captain. Cook has a chance of doing so!

 

[Khabri420]

hm, any stats guru out there? I don't know if an England batsman has ever scored twin hundreds in his first test as captain. Cook has a chance of doing so!

Spoke too soon

 

[bullseye7]

I think Junaid, Imrul, Aftab and Rubel needs to be replaced by Jahurul islam, Faisal Hossain, Dhiman Ghosh (we need a proper keeper) and Shurowardi Shuvo( he can flight and turn the ball).

Unless the first innings flop masters Junaid, Imrul, Aftab and Rubel make good contributions in BD second outing they need to be replaced.

However, BD will most likely continue with Imrul as they do not have an adequate replacement. But Junaid, Aftab and Rubel has to produce something out of the ordinary to justify a place in the squad for the second test.

BTW, how are these guys Jahurul islam, Faisal Hossain?

What positions do they play? What has been their performance in NCL, under 19, Academy level?

Rubel has been a liability both with ball and bat. He just bleeds runs.

I am surprised he was preferred over Shafiul.

 

[bullseye7]

Cook gone!

No luck for Captain Cook in second innings. Mahmudullah gets him. Aftab takes a well judged catch. England 67 for 1.

 

[bullseye7]

Spoke too soon

You are absolutely right as Cook perishes mate.

 

[Robert]

there are so so so many things wrong with this post. I think Bangladesh are a bit comical as a test side, but I' m not cruel and don't want their whole infrastructure to fail completely. However, when someone comes out with this much pompous, biased tosh then what can I do other than fire back, get a grip mate, you're 450 runs behind and been completely dominated for the whole tour, your team are pants and you're going to lose. Even if it rains for five sessions, in the position you're in now, you would probably still lose.

I must say I would admire the confidence of some of the Bangla posters if it was not so totally misplaced!

None of your bowlers are able to exert any pressure at all and half your batsmen have been found out by a side with just two test-class bowlers in it!

You won't win a test match just because one opener larges it for one session. You have to keep the pressure up and win the majority of sessions over the course of the match. England have gone into an away match without Strauss, Anderson and Onions and are still winning every session!

 

[Amjid Javed]

England just killing time and wracking up easy runs. A monster thrashing coming up for bangladesh.

 

[James]

KP goes for very quick 32 and Bangladesh are already batted out.

 

[Robert]

130-5, England making a bit of a mess of this actually.

They wouldn't get away with this against India or SA or Australia.

 

[Poison]

130-5, England making a bit of a mess of this actually.

They wouldn't get away with this against India or SA or Australia.

They wouldnt be carrying a 300 run first innings lead against those three sides.

 

[Robert]

They wouldnt be carrying a 300 run first innings lead against those three sides.

That's what I mean.

 

[pakistani pride]

they also wouldnt play like this against INd, AUS or SA
This match is dead so no suprize ENG is losing some focus.

A HUGE trashing coming up for BANGLA

 

[bullseye7]

England crashes to 131 for 5

So the much expected Spin is taking action.

Nice to see Shakib comeback in bowling.

Razzaq in menacing mood. Can't get better.

Mahmudullah has done his bit .

Mahmudullah : 1 for 26 from 8 overs , Shakib Al Hasan : 2 for 33 from 10 overs and Abdur Razzak : 2 for 7 from 4 overs says it all. It has restored some respectability.

Lead 400 +

England will most likely play two sessions on 4th day and declare with 500 lead which is daunting for any team.

So it appears the main culprit is the pitch . It did not respond as expected to spin in the first two days and BD has to pay a heavy price.

A first innings lead of 100 to 150 is manageable. But 300. That is beyond reach.

All BD can do is put up their best. But Swann is in killer mood. It remains to be seen how they will negotiate Swann in their second outing.

For future , BD should talk long and hard with the curator with regards to preparation of pitch for the second test and ensure that the coming one is favorable to them and starts to behave on time.

BD also need to make appropriate changes in team composition and purge out non performers and have a more pragmatic game plan and strategy.

OVERALL:

Great fight back by Rahim and Nayeem.

Great Comeback by BD spinners : Razzaq, Shakib and Mahmudullah.

Awesome bowling by Swann.

 

[Poison]

Shakib has not bowled well !

He got his first wicket off a long hop and his second after Pietersen cracked him for a six and a four and went for another one!

 

[Sledger]

And I thought Pakistan fans were delusional.

 

[bullseye7]

Shakib has not bowled well !

He got his first wicket off a long hop and his second after Pietersen cracked him for a six and a four and went for another one!

I get your point.

But 10 overs 1 maiden 33 runs and 2 wickets at ER : 3.30 looks certainly better than his first innings figures of 34.3 overs 1 maiden 133 runs and 1 wickets at ER : 3.85.

He also got rid of Master batsman Peterson though as you mentioned it was more of batsman’s undoing than a good delivery.

The English innings is not finished yet. As England will try to declare most likely at 500 lead they will try to accelerate the pace and in the process will lose a few more wickets. It could either go to Shakib or Razzaq. So Shakib’s figures might look better or stay about the same.

As far as the match outcome is concerned it might be decisive by end of today or if the BD batsmen show better spirit and doggedness it might extend a little bit to 5th day. But England definitely in driver’s seat and should easily win from here.

 

[Easa]

Did I just read Shakib > Kaneria? ) ) )

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Did I just read Shakib > Kaneria? ) ) )

You didn't get to that thread where most of the Bengali fans were saying that Shakib is way better than

It still makes me laugh like crazy.

) ) ) ) ) )

 

[James]

we won't bat 2 more sessions, it will be 1 more at most. I expect to wrap up tomorrow.

 

[James]

I also disagree with the point on the curator. This is a pancake that is tailor-made for the Bangladesh 'zero footwork' batting strategy. It has no assistance for fast bowlers and will take spin as the game goes on, which is also directed at Bangladesh, a team where every player seems to be a part-time spinner. In short, there is nothing the curator can do for Bangladesh which will give them a huge pitch advantage. An unexciting 3 days of England turning up and barely trying on an alien pitch has still been too good for Bangladesh. Bangladesh are rubbish.

 

[Robert]

For future , BD better talk long and hard with the curator with regards to preparation of pitch for the second test and ensure a one is prepared that is favorable to them and starts to behave on time.

That's their prerogative, but if they create a bunsen then Swann will outbowl the Bangladeshi spinners.

Your problem is that whatever kind of track you prepare, England have the bowlers to exploit it better.

 

[Imtiazk]

I am a Bangladeshi and I found the "team selection" very funny ! Frankly, only two Bangladeshis currently qualify. Tamim and Shakib. In a year's time maybe Mushfiq also [ only as a batsman ]. Mushfiq should not be a wicket-keeper for Bangladesh either !

Mahmudullah could be in a 15 man squad. Maybe.

 

[Imtiazk]

swann took a wicket in his 1st over for 12 th time in his shortcareer thats a great feat to achieve!

However, was Aftab actually out ?

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

The English commentators were so biased, they make Sunil Gavaskar and Shastri sound way better. Nick Knight is a great analyst but Atherton when Carberry got out he said "That wouldn't be out 30 years ago" hello if you are so interested in lbw decisions of the past, just go watch the highlights. Both the Bangladesh and English commentators are just plain irritating.

Yeah we don't deserve Test status, it would be better if ICC bans us from Test cricket. So far 55 losses, at the end of the year, will be 60 loss. Disgrace, fastest to reach 100 losses in Test matches our next goal.

 

[Random Aussie]

Swann is a better spinner than Shakib, the best spinner in the world at the moment. He'll do well in the Ashes.

No he won't. Offspinners get smashed in Australia, can't remember anyone who has come here and done OK. Maybe Paul Harris believe or not.

As expected the Saffers are belting the 'Desh. And the mightily overrated Alistair Cook continues on his merry way....

 

[Afridi_Fan]

Paul Harries an off-spinner?

I thought that left arm spinners are more like leg spinners, No?

 

[James]

openers gone, bangladesh gone

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

man why are the selectors keep picking Imrul who averages lower than 15 after 10 tests
Drop Junaid and Imrul, kick aftab, shoot Rubel

 

[mastermind_quad]

man why are the selectors keep picking Imrul who averages lower than 15 after 10 tests
Drop Junaid and Imrul, kick aftab, shoot Rubel

then who will play.......
BD is good in this ......pick under 20 player and after they reach 23-25 drop them......

 

[James]

Shakib has had a MARE! He CANNOT handle Swann

 

[Robert]

Atherton when Carberry got out he said "That wouldn't be out 30 years ago" hello if you are so interested in lbw decisions of the past, just go watch the highlights. (

Wasn't he making a point about the change in umpiring re: front-foot lbws? That's why offies and SLAs had strike rates in the 90s then, instead of the 60-70s like now.

IMO, Swann would not have taken all these wickets in 1980. He would be a stock bowler not a strike bowler. I would also like to see how Edmonds and Emburey would have done in 2010.

 

[Big Harvey]

Shakib has had a MARE! He CANNOT handle Swann

...or dodgy umpiring!

In this instance though, I think everyone thought it was out until the side-on view was shown. And you're right, he never looked comfortable against Swann.

 

[James]

Swann has snared him 3 or 4 times on the tour now. I also think he is a better all-rounder than his new rabbit

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Swann has snared him 3 or 4 times on the tour now. I also think he is a better all-rounder than his new rabbit

That was a poor decision by the umpire, it clearly hit the glove not the pad. Pretty weird decisions, this umpire Rod Tucker want to apply for a British passport along with Shamim.

Mushfiqur Rahim batted very well in the first innings. There is a replay of Shakib's dismissal that he in fact got a full glove on the sweep shot, it was tangled near his pads, but the ball came straight off the gloves and was squeezed into the ground.

http://www.cricinfo.com/bdeshveng2010/engine/current/match/426423.html

But still I rate Swann higher than him. Terrible decision this one, maybe you still think this is out

 

[James]

if you have a batsman's number you generally get the rub of the green against him, always been the case. just as England have Bangladesh's number, and the amount of pressure and chances we have created, we deserve our position. Complaining about an lbw is clutching at straws, as a very uncomfortable-looking Shakib's general cluelessness on how to pick or play Swann's deliveries would only have done for him more legitimately after tea.

The cricinfo text is one thing. I actually saw it. It wasn't a terrible decision, it was a groping, unprofessional shot to a straight ball, and whenever that happens you will get a strong appeal that will convince the majority of people in the ground. it was a bad decision. terrible decisions are a lot worse than that.

 

[James]

unless they get 2 or 3 wickets soon, there will be no justification for claiming the extra half hour and we'll be back tomorrow, really could do without that.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Bangla 5 down for 150 and pretty much staring at a good old spanking.

The bowling in 1st inns was poor and that has cost them competing in this match!

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Agreed it was a bad decision. Shakib does look clueless against Swann but he will overcome it soon. He's not like Ashraful, he learns from his mistakes even though it takes him a bit of a time, he was Vettori's bunny but in NZ he made Vettori his bunny and also played very well against him. So far Swann is leading and he may end up taking 5 or 6 wickets this innings, next tour if hopefully Swann comes to Bangladesh or we are still in the Test arena, Shakib will be a different cricketer.

Right now, there is no doubt Swann is a better all rounder.

 

[Big Harvey]

That was a poor decision by the umpire, it clearly hit the glove not the pad. Pretty weird decisions, this umpire Rod Tucker want to apply for a British passport along with Shamim.

Mushfiqur Rahim batted very well in the first innings. There is a replay of Shakib's dismissal that he in fact got a full glove on the sweep shot, it was tangled near his pads, but the ball came straight off the gloves and was squeezed into the ground.

http://www.cricinfo.com/bdeshveng2010/engine/current/match/426423.html

But still I rate Swann higher than him. Terrible decision this one, maybe you still think this is out

No, I don't think anyone who's seen the side-on view thinks it should have been given out.

The umpire didn't have a side-on view though, and the fact that the ball was squeezed into the ground created the optical illusion from the umpire's angle that it had come directly off the pad, when of course in reality it didn't hit the pad at all. The decision was indisputably wrong, but I do think the mistake was an understandable one. It had both me and the commentators fooled too until we saw the side-on view.

 

[James]

Remember that Shakib is a lot younger than Swann, and already a good little cricketer. lots of time to improve even further. nothing to be ashamed of, Swann has caused loads of quality batsmen problems (Ponting, M.Hussey, G.Smith to name a few) and is pretty much our most valuable player; Pietersen and Colly may be the 'best' players, but Swann is the most valuable. I think Swann is a good example of why 1 quality spinner is better than having 3 or 4 ordinary ones like Bangladesh do, it saves places in the XI and provides a consistently strong threat rather than lots of pies.

 

[Random Aussie]

Swann is a gun player. Rumour has it he may actually be English too - which would make it their first one since.......Botham.

 

[Imtiazk]

we won't bat 2 more sessions, it will be 1 more at most. I expect to wrap up tomorrow.

Didn't happen did it ? Even with Sakib given out GBW [ Gloves before wicket ].

 

[Imtiazk]

man why are the selectors keep picking Imrul who averages lower than 15 after 10 tests
Drop Junaid and Imrul, kick aftab, shoot Rubel

Drop Junaid ? Really ?

 

[Imtiazk]

if you have a batsman's number you generally get the rub of the green against him, always been the case. just as England have Bangladesh's number, and the amount of pressure and chances we have created, we deserve our position. Complaining about an lbw is clutching at straws, as a very uncomfortable-looking Shakib's general cluelessness on how to pick or play Swann's deliveries would only have done for him more legitimately after tea.

The cricinfo text is one thing. I actually saw it. It wasn't a terrible decision, it was a groping, unprofessional shot to a straight ball, and whenever that happens you will get a strong appeal that will convince the majority of people in the ground. it was a bad decision. terrible decisions are a lot worse than that.

Whippy, you are talking rubbish. The previous ball was swept for four. He swept his way to a hundred thrashing Vettori. That is his trademark shot to put off bowlers like Swann. Unless the umpires give a GBW. The ball hit his gloves smack on and did not even ricochet against the pads - it never touched the pads !

 

[Robert]

Whippy, you are talking rubbish. The previous ball was swept for four. He swept his way to a hundred thrashing Vettori. That is his trademark shot to put off bowlers like Swann. Unless the umpires give a GBW. The ball hit his gloves smack on and did not even ricochet against the pads - it never touched the pads !

One thing you will learn about test cricket is that the side putting the pressure on (i.e. England) tends to get the decisions in their favour - even wrong ones. It's due to psychological factors in the umpires.

 

[Robert]

No he won't. Offspinners get smashed in Australia, can't remember anyone who has come here and done OK.

Emburey takes 7-78 in Australia

 

[Bangla Tiger]

if you have a batsman's number you generally get the rub of the green against him, always been the case. just as England have Bangladesh's number, and the amount of pressure and chances we have created, we deserve our position. Complaining about an lbw is clutching at straws, as a very uncomfortable-looking Shakib's general cluelessness on how to pick or play Swann's deliveries would only have done for him more legitimately after tea.

The cricinfo text is one thing. I actually saw it. It wasn't a terrible decision, it was a groping, unprofessional shot to a straight ball, and whenever that happens you will get a strong appeal that will convince the majority of people in the ground. it was a bad decision. terrible decisions are a lot worse than that.

somewhat agree...it looked out to me when i saw it live...but still an umpire standing 25 yards away should be a better judge than TV viewers. otherwise what is point of having umpires?

i could stand there for one tenth of the price as Hill or Tucker or Parker or Ashoka or Enamul Haque or Bucknor and give people out for glove before wicket and off the helmet (trott in first innings).

its not that the decision would have changed the outcome of the match...but it would allow us to "fight" a little bit more since thats what people want to see.

on the one hand, there are elitist calls that no one wants to see blowouts whcih is why the BCCI, ECB, and CA have all refused to host Bangladesh. but then when umpires push us back further there is a largely non-chalant attitude about it.

total contradiction in my book. i mean, if england came to BD to win a test match in one session why not just force the umpires to raise their finger every ball when we're batting? it would take just over 3 overs to dismiss us twice that way.

 

[BD-fan]

One thing you will learn about test cricket is that the side putting the pressure on (i.e. England) tends to get the decisions in their favour - even wrong ones. It's due to psychological factors in the umpires.

I thought test umpires were suppose to be neutral these days?

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Drop Junaid ? Really ?

Don't know, hope the boys manage a draw. Overall the umpiring in both the Test ODIs have been below International stage. We could have won that 2nd ODI. Anyhow Junaid should open with Tamim, Imrul needs to be kicked out - the guy is worse than Ashraful. He makes Ashraful look like KP.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

I thought test umpires were suppose to be neutral these days?

Not when you are playing England. The umpires + England = Ashes victory

 

[Robert]

I thought test umpires were suppose to be neutral these days?

What I mean to say is that the umpire's judgement will be swayed by what he sees and hears, but also by psychological factors. He will give Monty Pansar out lbw, but SRT not out to an identical ball because SRT is great and couldn't have just missed that one could he?

When Australia were demolishing England in every Ashes series, I noticed that the Aussies seemed to get the bulk of the marginal decisions in their favour.

Then in 2005 when England played much better and put Australia under pressure, it was the English who were getting more of the marginal decisions awarded to them. And suddenly the Australian fans started crying foul!

Putting it another way: you make you own luck.

 

[James]

the evening session was extremely dull but hopefully they manage to wrap it up tomorrow.

 

[ali_ed2006]

where are the people that said Bangladesh will cause England trouble and they expect to win something in this series?? even though England are not playing some key players.

 

[bullseye7]

Shakib undone by Swann and Umpire

BD Captain suffered two shocks yesterday.

First succumbing to Swann for the second time in the match and second by becoming an unfortunate victim of umpiring error by Tony Hill.

Shakib must be devastated on what has happened . Sometime fate can be very cruel.

From team's point of view he had contributed well with the ball having taken 1 for 133 iand 4 for 64 in England’s first and second innings respectively. His second inning’s haul includes the prize scalp of his bogeyman Swann.

Fast forward to umpiring.

To make matter worst this test series does not have the option of referral system because of cost issues of broadcaster.

Since the present ICC rule allows two referrals per innings for each side, Shakib could have got a reversal of decision and subsequently contributed towards his team’s fight.

On the positive side, Shakib at least can have some smile for his bowling efforts. He has taken 5 wickets in the match which incidentally is the highest for his side.

So far Tigers have fought well on the fourth day which is half the battle won.

Good luck to Tigers for the fifth day!

God bless umpire Tony Hill!