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Bangladesh v New Zealand l 2nd Test l Dhaka | Oct 21-25, 2013

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IJWBS said:
Kiwi is a funny guy. Ish Sodhi with a FC average of 50+ will be a better spinner than Shakib and Gazi, yeah right. Every divisional team in Bangladesh has a better spinner than Sodhi. New Zealand and South Africa will never produce world-class spinners. That's just how it is.
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well there is vettori ofcourse who is class.

but claiming that sodhi will become a better spinner than Gazi and Shakib is quite a joke.

I dont really recall sodhi bowling a good delivery to get the batsman out. It was rather our batsman gifting their wicket to him
 
Sodhi has played about half a season of pro cricket its foolish to judge him yet ether way.
 
Kiwi said:
Doubt it, if we don't make 550+ against this team once this series would have been a miserable failure.
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Does your batting have the strength to score 550 against anyone? That too away from home? And tuk-tuking 550 in a match where a lot of rain is expected is practically hands us a 0-0 draw for the series. NZ would do better to blast 350-9 off 70 overs and declare.

That being said, NZ are in an excellent position by grabbing the top 5 wickets inside 2 sessions. But this is the toughest part of our batting here. If the remaining 3 guys can get us to 350 we stand a chance since NZ will eventually crumble to spin.
 
Kiwi said:
Why bother playing in Bangladesh...

Pitches are rubbish and when there is a chance of a result... rain :facepalm:
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Every Tom Dick and Harry team has come to Bangladesh and thrashed us. On pitches so flat that these look like the Himalayas. Remember we're that team thats lost 75% of our matches by an innings, more than half of which have been AT HOME.
 
65.6
Wagner to Mushfiqur Rahim, OUT, fuller and outside the off stump, drives and finds the edge and straight to Fulton, one of the gully fielder.
Mushfiqur Rahim c Fulton b Wagner 18 (61m 42b 3x4 0x6) SR: 42.85

65.6
Wagner to Mushfiqur Rahim, OUT, fuller and outside the off stump, drives and finds the edge and straight to Fulton, one of the gully fielder.
Mushfiqur Rahim c Fulton b Wagner 18 (61m 42b 3x4 0x6) SR: 42.85

65.6
Wagner to Mushfiqur Rahim, OUT, fuller and outside the off stump, drives and finds the edge and straight to Fulton, one of the gully fielder.
Mushfiqur Rahim c Fulton b Wagner 18 (61m 42b 3x4 0x6) SR: 42.85

65.5
Wagner to Mushfiqur Rahim, no run, driven straight to mid-off.
A slip, two gully and a short cover in place.

65.4
Wagner to Nasir Hossain, 1 run, comes forward and pushes with an open face to deep backward point.

65.3
Wagner to Nasir Hossain, FOUR, pushes forward and finds the edge past the gully down to third man fence, that is the first boundary of the morning.

65.2
Wagner to Nasir Hossain, no run

65.1
Wagner to Nasir Hossain, no run


Mistake by Cricinfo :)))
 
70 overs more left in the day , If Kiwis bat those out they should be nearly 200 by stumps.
 
7 wickets in a session? what sort if minefield is this?

Kiwi what di you think about your team scoring 550+ ?
 
Williamson is brilliant against spin so if we can on out early then we should be able to get a sizable lead
 
Rain has done wonders for the pitch, we will still win though. If Bangladesh were playing in the same conditions today they would have been rolled for 150.
 
the pitch is not that tough to bat on. most batsman have gone out to poor shots except razzaq who got out to a ripper. Even your openers were atrocious. I mean this is the first time I have seen a RBH shouldering arms to shakib who does not turn turn the ball much.
 
2 tests in and we already know Ish will be better than Bangladesh's spinners :))
 
williamson is being shown as retired hurt ? shakib the bowler is back .
 
IJWBS said:
Kiwi is a funny guy. Ish Sodhi with a FC average of 50+ will be a better spinner than Shakib and Gazi, yeah right. Every divisional team in Bangladesh has a better spinner than Sodhi. New Zealand and South Africa will never produce world-class spinners. That's just how it is.
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International average of 39 and looks to be getting better.

Experience will make him better, he's a very hard worker and keen learner.

He loves cricket.
 
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Kiwi sodhi maybe your friend hence your bias towards him but its a total joke claiming that he is better than gazi and shakib. Shakib has 9 5 wicket hauls in test cricket and there is no doubt that gazi is a quality spinner hence he has bowled exceedingly well in his first year.

now what did sodhi do to make him better than our bowlers? Its like claiming that mominul is better than lara. atleast mominul has scored some big runs and has an average of 60. Ishmael sodhi has just started playing seasonal cricket and his average in those matches arent note worthy.

And just for your information, just because sodhi is a hard worker and loves cricket does not mean your average cricketers. every professional cricketer in the sc loves cricket. Anyways. forget overall, in this series alone he did not outbowl gazi or shakib.
 
however there is no doubt that sodhi has shown promise and I wish him the best.
 
I don't understand the point in Rubel Hossain. He just cannot pick up wickets. Rahim hasn't even used Gazi. His decisions can be very dumb at times.
 
Executioner said:
Kiwi sodhi maybe your friend hence your bias towards him but its a total joke claiming that he is better than gazi and shakib. Shakib has 9 5 wicket hauls in test cricket and there is no doubt that gazi is a quality spinner hence he has bowled exceedingly well in his first year.

now what did sodhi do to make him better than our bowlers? Its like claiming that mominul is better than lara. atleast mominul has scored some big runs and has an average of 60. Ishmael sodhi has just started playing seasonal cricket and his average in those matches arent note worthy.

And just for your information, just because sodhi is a hard worker and loves cricket does not mean your average cricketers. every professional cricketer in the sc loves cricket. Anyways. forget overall, in this series alone he did not outbowl gazi or shakib.
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I never said he's better than them right now, I said he'll surpass them in future...
 
Energetic said:
Now you admit its difficult to bat on. Funny yesterday you said it was a flat pitch. Have fun trolling lol
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Rain has put a bit in the pitch, yesterday was an easy day to bat and in the morning today it was extremely difficult because of the rain last night. Bangladesh lost their last 5 for little to nothing.
 
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Executioner said:
however there is no doubt that sodhi has shown promise and I wish him the best.
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Against Bangladesh and wickets that can assist spinners. When he plays at home or places like South Africa pretty much useless.

Funny thing is that neither Wagner nor Sodhi are New Zealand born lol otherwise it would've been humiliation for New Zealand.
 
Energetic said:
Against Bangladesh and wickets that can assist spinners. When he plays at home or places like South Africa pretty much useless.

Funny thing is that neither Wagner nor Sodhi are New Zealand born lol otherwise it would've been humiliation for New Zealand.
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Trust me if you've heard him talk before you'd know he's a kiwi.

I'll give you Wagner though.
 
Kiwi said:
I never said he's better than them right now, I said he'll surpass them in future...
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read your earlier posts :))

you clearly said that he seems to be a better.bowler than those 2.

and that's what you think will happen. only time will tell
 
Executioner said:
read your earlier posts :))

you clearly said that he seems to be a better.bowler than those 2.

and that's what you think will happen. only time will tell
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I haven't said anything about him being better than anyone currently, all of my posts about him have been about his future. And yes the odds are he will surpass them, he's been identified as one for the future for the Black Caps and the confidence Mccullum showed by picking him over the more experienced Martin shows that.

Also, he will be playing around the world he has already an advantage on your spinners who rarely play often let alone against the best. The odds are stacked against you and I was just giving some here who have been blasting him a reality check.
 
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Ashraful_Rox said:
Sodhi oh please, he isn't even fit enough to tie Shakib's shoe laces. He'll be a ttf in few more years. Shakib's wicket was due to a poor shot and shakib throws away his wicket all the time, Nasir's, he wasn't concentrating and wanted to give the tosser a chance and Raazak's, he is a tailender, there you go Kiwi you have a world class spinner. LOL

Kiwi batsmen are pathetic, can't even play a Rubel Hossain bouncer, the bowler who has been hit for six sixes by Naeem Islam lol, no wonder Kiwis were humiliated against England, 60 runs all out. HaHa :yk

We are winning this one. Sodhi will be the man of the match - for us :shakib
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look who is back just before this thread became a bore.

sodhi takes 6 wickets in 3 innings. One does not simply have to be good to take our 6/7 wickets against Bangladesh. even Williamson is good enough to get a 5-fer against us on this sort of pitch which can only become more spin friendly
 
Kiwi said:
I haven't said anything about him being better than anyone currently all of my posts about him have been about his future. And yes the odds are he will surpass him, he's been identified as one for the future for the Black Caps and the confidence Mccullum showed by picking him over the more experienced Martin shows that.

Also, he will be playing around the world he has already has an advantage on your spinners who rarely play often let alone against the best. The odds are stacked against you and I was just giving some here who have been blasting him a reality check.
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and what about tahir, bishoo, smith these days? all were.talents but they are not even in the picture leave alone becoming quality.

so because he is identified as a talent and chosen over Martin makes him special. Bruce Martin looks ordinary just like razzak. And just fyi shakib already had 5 fees against all teams except Australia who never played against.
 
Executioner said:
and what about tahir, bishoo, smith these days? all were.talents but they are not even in the picture leave alone becoming quality.

so because he is identified as a talent and chosen over Martin makes him special. Bruce Martin looks ordinary just like razzak. And just fyi shakib already had 5 fees against all teams except Australia who never played against.
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Shakib isn't as great as you think he is... He may be great by Bangladeshi standards but I'd rate him a touch below Hafeez. I mean if Hafeez played for Bangladesh he'd have plenty of 5'fers too seeing as you have little competition for wickets.
 
Sodhi looks a joke to me. At best he will be another Tahir :shakib

Shakib is better than Hafeez. Give credit where its due. Bangladesh have some quality spinners and better than the likes of NZ and SA have.

Peterson who is the main spinner for SA would be on the bench for Bangladesh. Says it all really.

Hafeez doesn't have the ability to pick wickets like Shakib.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Spinners like Sodhi are found in every corner in Pakistan and Bangladesh.

He is on the same footing as Usman Qadir who is good enough to get warm up games for Pakistan only in spite of having seriously strong connections.
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Did you see him bowl today? If only you knew the guy, you'd understand why people know he'll succeed.
 
match called off for today.

As ashraful rox would say : the rain came to save NZ
 
Kiwi's hype train has crashed embarrassingly. He spent months belittling Pakistan and talked big about how improved and superior to Pakistan NZ are and today, Pakistan are winning a series against South Africa and New Zealand can't beat Bangladesh.


Please don't mess with the big boys of cricket. New Zealand is nothing but a bunch of glorified minnows who think a 0-0 result home to England is an achievement.

Please don't come to UAE, you'll get hammered worse than any team before but we will continue to beat you in New Zealand like we have done many times before.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Kiwi's hype train has crashed embarrassingly. He spent months belittling Pakistan and talked big about how improved and superior to Pakistan NZ are and today, Pakistan are winning a series against South Africa and New Zealand can't beat Bangladesh.


Please don't mess with the big boys of cricket. New Zealand is nothing but a bunch of glorified minnows who think a 0-0 result home to England is an achievement.

Please don't come to UAE, you'll get hammered worse than any team before but we will continue to beat you in New Zealand like we have done many times before.
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We did fine against SL in SL.

And you aren't the big boys, it's cute you think you are though :))
 
Kiwi said:
We did fine against SL in SL.

And you aren't the big boys, it's cute you think you are though :))
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Fine for you is drawing a series at best. Only solidifies my point.

We are on the brink of entering the top 4 again and will make it to the Test Championship as things stand. You are as far away from making the Test championship as any team.

Make of it what you will.
 
Mamoon_ said:
Fine for you is drawing a series at best. Only solidifies my point.

We are on the brink of entering the top 4 again and will make it to the Test Championship as things stand. You are as far away from making the Test championship as any team.

Make of it what you will.
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You may think it's a good thing but don't forget the Test Championship is in England not the UAE.

A two man spin attack will do nothing in England.

When was the last time you drew a series away from home? :))

The nonsense you post against a small country like NZ is hilarious, despite the odds we're quite competitive.
 
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Kiwi said:
We did fine against SL in SL.

And you aren't the big boys, it's cute you think you are though :))
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SL is a very weak team these days. their bowling attack is weak apart from herath. They are in transition at the moment.

And I am pretty sure Pakistan will be favourites in UAE. SA and England have struggled their! I am not expecting non Subcontinental players to think of it as a piece of cake. Pakistan may not be a top team but they are still ranked the top amongst the bottom tier
 
since there will be no more cricket today,nice to see posters fighting with each other on match thread :)
 
Kiwi said:
You may think it's a good thing but don't forget the Test Championship is in England not the UAE.

A two man spin attack will do nothing in England.

When was the last time you drew a series away from home? :))

The nonsense you post against a small country like NZ is hilarious, despite the odds we're quite competitive.
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well Pakistan have won a series in Bangladesh. Something your team has been struggling to do.
 
Pakistan beats NZ home and away. Not sure what is your point.

Yes, we lost a Test to Zimbabwe but you on the other hand are completely incapable of beating England or South Africa in any conditions.

Call it arrogance or what but NZ simply cannot compete with Pakistan's A game. The only way you can beat us if we have a howler like we did in Zimbabwe.

If both teams play their best cricket, there is going to be only one result.
 
Executioner said:
SL is a very weak team these days. their bowling attack is weak apart from herath. They are in transition at the moment.

And I am pretty sure Pakistan will be favourites in UAE. SA and England have struggled their! I am not expecting non Subcontinental players to think of it as a piece of cake. Pakistan may not be a top team but they are still ranked the top amongst the bottom tier
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Herath is up there with Ajmal and Swann, I rate him very highly.

Our batsmen have shown they can play quality spin, we just need to show more consistently and aim up even when playing against minnows.
 
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