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Bangladesh versus India : The new intense rivalry?

If Bangladesh continue to improve, we might end up with a fierce rivalry a decade from now.

As things stand, there's no rivalry. Having said that, Bangladesh are absolutely capable of beating India on a good day.
 
I see it more of BD fans taunting India and Indian fans wanting to just shut them up by beating them, but yeah I feel the animosity between the two teams. This is mainly due to what happened in the 2015 WC, 2016 Asia cup and other recent matches.

Pak vs BD is more of a war over stats in terms of wins and losses, player averages and whatnot.
 
Well - Bangladesh have improved a lot.
But rivalry comes from tradition or history. India-Pakistan or Australia-England have history to fuel the sentiments of both sides of fans.
 
If only if the Bangla cricket team had half the passion as their fans, they will be in a different league altogether.
 
Very less chance of that happening. BD's consistency against India has to be lot better. When Jayasurya was around i hated his guts against India. He always showed up against us. Even that did not turn into a rivalry. Besides pakistan only rivalry i have seen is with Australia.
 
personally i hate both indian n bangla fans u will hardly find any sensible person among them both are irriating and loud mouth but atleast indian has something to boast about their rich cricket history and their legends like sachin sehwag dravid vvs dhoni etc
what bangla fans got to boast so much ?? legends like khalid mehmood habib ul bashir and shahadut hossain???
bangla fans are no less irritating then indian fans

that is funny, because i was about to observe that i find you rather irritating and rather verbose.
 
the roots to this rivalry can be traced back to two unrelated incidents:
1. India's steady refusal to play a test series hosted by Bangladesh, in part because of the insignificant revenue that it would generate for india, and in part because at the test match level, Bangladesh cricket is still in its infancy.

2. When India did eventually tour Bangladesh for a couple of test matches, and Bangladesh put up a strong fight, the shadow of the words uttered by the Virendra Sehwag, words that were rather unnecessary, were dismissive of a whole nation. That found has not healed, and the periodic ejection from major tournaments that the rivals have cast upon each other - 2007 world cup, 2011 world cup, and then the 2015 world cup semifinal, have festered the wound to high heaven.

Also it does not help that in the minds of all Indians, Bangladesh gained its independence thanks to Indian intervention and there is an implicit expectation to gratitude being expressed by Bangladesh which is not always there...
 
This is the best time to bump this thread
I still believe indo pak rivalry is fading away
The new agressive and intense rivalry is Bangladesh vs India
 
Nothing to bump here no rivalry can match India vs Pakistan because of the history not related to cricket.. The political atmosphere, wars, animosity between people against each other will keep India vs Pakistan as the biggest rivalry in any sport.. Now they don’t play each other much so India vs Australia is a very good rivalry from cricketing perspective but nothing can match the passion and hatred in an India Pakistan match..

India vs BD is still in its infant stages and not many people in India consider BD anything else than a minnow.. Once BD wins WC like SL did in 96 then the rivalry can begin.
 
lol@topic BD fans want to create a rival with every team. They went little overboard by depicting severed head of Dhoni. But there is no rivlary between the players. India/Pakistan, India/Australia these are the only two rivals for India. Some kind of history is there. Everything else is temporary.
 
I think india will find it difficult to beat us in limited overs cricket in our own backyard. Our boys always bring their A game against India.
 
I think india will find it difficult to beat us in limited overs cricket in our own backyard. Our boys always bring their A game against India.



Even if it becomes true that BD becomes the best team in the world and india is second best the rivalry will still not as close as india vs Pakistan.. India vs Pakistan is much more than cricket you guys won’t understand.
 
Even if it becomes true that BD becomes the best team in the world and india is second best the rivalry will still not as close as india vs Pakistan.. India vs Pakistan is much more than cricket you guys won’t understand.

I agree with u.
 
I think india will find it difficult to beat us in limited overs cricket in our own backyard. Our boys always bring their A game against India.

Yeah right? Asia Cup 2016 Final was the A game your boys brought and Dhoni/Kohli/Dhawan combo destroyed your A-attack in your own backyard to win the Asia cup.
 
This is the best time to bump this thread
I still believe indo pak rivalry is fading away
The new agressive and intense rivalry is Bangladesh vs India

Sure... what an intense rivalry it is when even India B will smash you by 100 runs in a T20

Pakistan could thump that Indian team day and night.
 
Bangladesh vs India isn't a major rivalry at all. Bangladesh fans are delusional if they think it's a major rivalry.
 
I think india will find it difficult to beat us in limited overs cricket in our own backyard. Our boys always bring their A game against India.

Once Fizz fizzled, that wasn't going to happen. Indians have been scoring at a very fair clip against him after their strategic inclusion of him in IPL.
 
What rivalry? India uses BD as practice matches and for grooming their younger players. BD's real rivals are SL and probably AFG in the next few years
 
Even if it becomes true that BD becomes the best team in the world and india is second best the rivalry will still not as close as india vs Pakistan.. India vs Pakistan is much more than cricket you guys won’t understand.

Agree 100%, BD can never replace PAK or AUS in rivalry with IND :19:
 
Yeah right? Asia Cup 2016 Final was the A game your boys brought and Dhoni/Kohli/Dhawan combo destroyed your A-attack in your own backyard to win the Asia cup.

IIRC Dhoni :msd smashed six to win the final and crashed million Bangla fans hopes, lead to witness tearful fans in stadium :sree
 
This is oneway Rivalry.

I mean BD fans think India-BD are new rivals, but us Indian fans still think them as minnows

Like whenever we are going to play BD, most of us would reply “Are BD hai, aram se jeet lenge”. I dont think this is rivalry, not at least for us Indian fans, perhaps for BD fans.

In my view, still Pakistan is our #1 rivals due to political reasons, and purely as a cricketing rivals then I’ll rate Australia as #1 rivals.
 
It takes two to be rivals and BD all along has just been an ICC sanctioned extention of a practic we match, not only for India but other countries as SA, Pak, Aus and England

Despite all the chest thumping by BD fans, the rivlary only exists in their dreams. They are just minnows
 
Once Fizz fizzled, that wasn't going to happen. Indians have been scoring at a very fair clip against him after their strategic inclusion of him in IPL.

Hmm, looks like Indians were really scared of fizz. Good to know that Indian players r feeling confident to face him now. However, fizz is a world class bowler. He'll definitely bring a new variety in his bowling.
 
Hmm, looks like Indians were really scared of fizz. Good to know that Indian players r feeling confident to face him now. However, fizz is a world class bowler. He'll definitely bring a new variety in his bowling.

Just read that he is the most expensive bowler in Nidahas trophy. He conceded 9.75 runs an over. If that's world class, then Thakur is the Universe Boss!
 
Just read that he is the most expensive bowler in Nidahas trophy. He conceded 9.75 runs an over. If that's world class, then Thakur is the Universe Boss!

Lot of BD fans are delusional if they think Fizz is World class. He was unknown quality when he debuted against India in 2015, which is why he wrecked havoc, kinda similar to A Mendis did against us. In both cases, when the bowler was figured out, it become relative easy to face them. Apart from that debut series, I dont remember Fizz ever troubling our batsmen. Mustafiz needs to learn to swing or seam, can’t always just rely on cutters to do the job for him. If pitch isn’t suitable for cutters then he is pretty much useless and will get phainta just like he’s been getting one in Nidas Trophy.

More than Fizz, i think Rubel is their main bowler.

Lol at BD fans comparing Fizz to Wasim Akram :misbah
 
Hmm, looks like Indians were really scared of fizz. Good to know that Indian players r feeling confident to face him now. However, fizz is a world class bowler. He'll definitely bring a new variety in his bowling.

When he debuted against us in 2015 and then the series against SA, he was showing signs of future great. He was decieving batsmen with his slower balls and cutters. What went wrong for him was, his slower balls and cutters instead of being as his secret weapon, it rather become his stock balls and over used it, resulting in batsmen getting more comfortable against it. He should spend a season or two in county cricket and learn the art of swing/seam and add another dimension to his bowling, perhaps then he can truly called himself World class. As of now, he is either Hit or Miss type of bowler. On green pitches his cutters wont grip and will make him even more ineffective. He is still very young, and can have long and successful career, just need to pick up few skills. Tbh i envy Bd team when Fizz debuted against us, however its been going downhill since that dream series against India and SA.
 
Hmm, looks like Indians were really scared of fizz. Good to know that Indian players r feeling confident to face him now. However, fizz is a world class bowler. He'll definitely bring a new variety in his bowling.

Common man, IPL is having most of the best players in the world (except Pak players obviously).

Fizz already fizzled out, don't think he will get much game time in this year IPL matches.
I guess :fizz is in MI team with full of bigger and better players already.
 
When he debuted against us in 2015 and then the series against SA, he was showing signs of future great. He was decieving batsmen with his slower balls and cutters. What went wrong for him was, his slower balls and cutters instead of being as his secret weapon, it rather become his stock balls and over used it, resulting in batsmen getting more comfortable against it. He should spend a season or two in county cricket and learn the art of swing/seam and add another dimension to his bowling, perhaps then he can truly called himself World class. As of now, he is either Hit or Miss type of bowler. On green pitches his cutters wont grip and will make him even more ineffective. He is still very young, and can have long and successful career, just need to pick up few skills. Tbh i envy Bd team when Fizz debuted against us, however its been going downhill since that dream series against India and SA.

In short 'One Trick Pony! ... Got Exposed'

:fizz
 
Common man, IPL is having most of the best players in the world (except Pak players obviously).

Fizz already fizzled out, don't think he will get much game time in this year IPL matches.
I guess :fizz is in MI team with full of bigger and better players already.

I hope Jayawardene uses his common sense and go with Cummins instead of Fizz. I really want us to retIn the title this year.
 
This is the best chance for BD to win against India ,and history will not see that Kohli,Bumrah etc. weren't playing but the results of the match.
 
:ashwin

Haha you just invited the wrath of BD fans upon yourself :smith

Lol...let them come I'm ready ..kidding.

Cricket is what bringing we all strangers from different parts of the world to this fantastic forum PP #kudos

Love to debate Cricket with anyone, anytime and anywhere :kohli2
 
Lol...let them come I'm ready ..kidding.

Cricket is what bringing we all strangers from different parts of the world to this fantastic forum PP #kudos

Love to debate Cricket with anyone, anytime and anywhere :kohli2


Yea thats true about forums. Discussing on numerous subject not just cricket, makes it exciting.
 
New much better. Healthy rivalry has formed between Bangladesh v Sri Lanka. They’re friends off the field and most Lankans play BPL each year. It’s good for Asian cricket and cricket in general in general.

I’d say this started slowly, from Asia cup T20 2016. Last years BD series in SL was hard faught between the two.


I’m liking it. Hoping more to come future tours and matches!
 
Most Indians I've met don't seem to think that Bangladesh are rivals. Every Bangladeshi I've met thinks that India are rivals.
 
Lol at this rivalry. This thread must have been started by a BD fan who thinks they are rival to India or Pakistan. At best they are rival to this Sri Lankan team.

Now tomorrow Afghanistan will say they have rivalry with Pakistan(in cricket)
 
This is the best chance for BD to win against India ,and history will not see that Kohli,Bumrah etc. weren't playing but the results of the match.

No offence but history won’t remember anything.. This is just another useless tri series like your kitply trophies and other useless tri series which no one remembers.. For tri series to be remembered you need solid performances like Sachin in Sharjah against Australia or you need a rivalry like India vs Pakistan where rivalry is so huge hat moments are remembered.. E.g. Kanitkar hitting a 4 to win while chasing 300+ or Rajesh Chauhan Ji hitting a six against saqlain or Amir destroying Indian top order but kohli making 40 odd while chasing 80 runs to win in bowling friendly conditions etc..

Even if BD wins 5 years down the line no one would remember this stupid series .. Maybe BD fans might Cherish it but that would depend if this will be one of the few matches/tournaments they have won in next 5 years..


If BD win fair play to them and congratulations they beat Indian team fair and square and deserve he victory.. However only series which are remembered in history are ODI WC’s.. Apart from WC for masses only performances are remembered throughout history and not any series wins..


Agree 100%, BD can never replace PAK or AUS in rivalry with IND :19:


They can replace India vs Australia rivalry in cricket if BD becomes the best or second best team in cricket for a decade and India is also a top 2 team.. Remember India VA Australia rivalry is purely cricket rivalry and if BD becomes a top 2 team alongside India for 10 years then the rivalry can over power India vs Australia rivalry.. Right now it seems like this won’t happen in our lifetime so it’s safe to assume they can never match India vs Australia rivalry in our lifetime...
 
Lol..Which rivalry?

This is the tier

India
Australia
England
South Africa

New Zealand
Pakistan

West Indies
Sri Lanka
Bangladesh
Afghanistan

Zimbabwe
Ireland.

Bangladesh can only have rivalry with Sri Lanka and Afghanistan. Minnows still in cricket.
 
I was fuming, the way Afghanistan played the Test. And now I think I was rude to them.

And you speak of rivalry, which can't be possible even with INDIA C, D, E team.
 
Best ODI rivalry in the world by far.

Matches between these two teams go down to the wire.

Hats off
 
Best rivalry among Asian teams. No other team challenges India as consistently as bangladesh.
 
This rivalry is all about India playing with Bangladesh’s feelings all through the match, only to deliver the sucker punch in the end :facepalm:
 
To even give India full strength team a run for the money is a big thing.

But India still much better.
 
Shows the importance of Kohli in chases. Sure it got close but how is it a rivalry if only one team keeps winning
 
KP trolling Jadav, ruffling his hair and what not, Kedar looks really ****** off. :yk
 
Dont you need to have some big epic series to have some sort of rivalry? Did both teams ever play a close test series? Did they ever face off in an icc event final?

What is their H2H in tests and odis?
 
It is not about the rivalry. BD know this is their best chance to win an Asia cup. They were thoroughly focused.
 
Glad We are spared off over the top celebrations from Bangladeshis

Losing a final is no big deal if you face gracious opponents like New Zealand or West Indies, two teams with great sporting history, but here is an opponent who has never achieved anything big in cricket or any other sports, but they have deluded themselves into believing that they are a major cricketing nation and that if they lose a match then it is because of conspiracy by the entire world against them.

We know they are sore losers, and thankfully we have been spared the sights of witnessing their over the top celebrations.
 
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Thats like really cruel of India.
World T20 2016, Nidahas Final, and now the Asia Cup final.
They make BD fans hope and hope and hope and hope and then KaBoom knockout punch.
 
This rivalry is all about India playing with Bangladesh’s feelings all through the match, only to deliver the sucker punch in the end :facepalm:
They bowled really well today.Had their batsmen applied little brain, they would have had a score to beat India.
 
Thats like really cruel of India.
World T20 2016, Nidahas Final, and now the Asia Cup final.
They make BD fans hope and hope and hope and hope and then KaBoom knockout punch.

Perhaps they like to see the face of Musfiqur.
 
Feel bad for Bangladesh man. Played out of their skins, without Shakib and Tamim.

They have to do it over and over and over and over again. If they go on to lose their next match to Afghanistan then it means nothing. This is the case with BD team. They go forward then backward..
 
In Test, absolutely no contest. BD may lose to Ireland in Test. That's how bad the Test team is.

In LOI, BD may beat India here and there. But, India are still miles ahead.

I can't call it rivalry. It is more like a battle between a powerhouse and an underdog.
 
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The rivalry is all one way. BD fans want so much for it to be true, India fans be like "whaa??" :20:
 
Glad to be playing another big match with our new biggest rivals in Asian bloc.
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] Congrats brothers

Hopefully the final will be worth watching.

Good luck to both sides :)
 
We're playing BD in the U-19 finals.

Even so, on topic, Pakistan may turn up lame, blind, deaf, with 'star player' Umar Akmal exposing his shortcomings on the field of play, with new coach Shoaib Akhtar shrieking dal, daleri from the sidelines, but it's still India Pakistan for me.

Just like it's still rock and roll to me.
 
In Test, absolutely no contest. BD may lose to Ireland in Test. That's how bad the Test team is.

In LOI, BD may beat India here and there. But, India are still miles ahead.

I can't call it rivalry. It is more like a battle between a powerhouse and an underdog.

A win in every 4-5 years isn't here and there, khair choro. BD is a totally different beast though in age level cricket that I agree.
 
Glad to be playing another big match with our new biggest rivals in Asian bloc.

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] Congrats brothers

Hopefully the final will be worth watching.

Good luck to both sides :)

😝

It’s becoming monotonous now - two Asia Cup finals, U19 Asia cup final, now World Cup final ......😜
 
Somehow matches against BD are more close most of the time esp in KO stages.
Lets see how this ones holds up.
 
India has one and only rivalry in cricket and that is with 🇵🇰 . Rest of the rivalries are made for tv fake hype. That being said, both teams seem evenly matched so should be a great contest weather permitting.
 
This rivalry is overrated. Bangladesh have beaten India like one time and lost more than a dozen times. Coming close is irrelevant if you can't win.

I think India will crush Bangladesh in the final but then again I could be wrong.
 
There's only one rivalry I know of since I started following cricket in 1996, and that's India vs Pakistan.
 
I really do hope BD U19 step up and perform in international cricket a well. India needs competition from atleast 1 Asian side and it's unlikely we will get that from the likes of Pakistan/Afghanistan/Nepal/Hong Kong etc.
 
India vs Bangladesh rivalry is the new IndvsPak. It's great to see the rise of Bangladesh as a cricket powerhouse.
 
There's only one rivalry I know of since I started following cricket in 1996, and that's India vs Pakistan.

Well everything comes with an expiry date and in the last 4-5 years Ind v BD has produced some absolute thrillers while matches against Pak were all one sided affairs. Now I agree that BD hardly win but they most definitely raise their game against us, we just can't deny that. I wouldn't call this a rivalry as Indian fans by and large aren't serious about it yet but has the potential to become one in near future I think.
 
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