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Suleiman said:
Yep. Bangla lost by 5 runs when a penalty on Kohli’s fake fielding would’ve given Bangla 5 runs. And that was an actual effort by India to do something unfair, whether it was in jest or not is another matter. We didn’t really do anything bad lol.
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BD scored 2 runs on that delivery which would have been cancelled out had that penalty of 5 runs been granted to them. So no, they would have still lost that game however hard someone tries to spin that.
 
Mesozoic said:
Hmm so it's a "fault" when it happens for Pakistan but it's "corruption and fixed" when it happens for India.

Do you even hear yourselves?
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and you still dont understand. When we raise the point, INdians defend it like no tomr that the umpire was right.

You are again arguing for the sake when i have told you the reason
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Daylight robbery for BD. Such cheap measures to ensure PAK qualification :facepalm
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Imagine the reaction here if South Africa lost to freaking Netherlands and then a blatant umpiring blunder in a virtual quarter final to ensure India of a semi final spot.
 
BTW I do not believe that PCB paid 3rd umpires in Match against India or this one. Those were umpire’s decisions which I respect. But I hope OP also realize that everything doesn’t have to be a grand conspiracy against pakistan
 
Major said:
and you still dont understand. When we raise the point, INdians defend it like no tomr that the umpire was right.

You are again arguing for the sake when i have told you the reason
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As usual you're deliberately missing my point.

How is it BCCI's influence and mOneY when umpires make touch and go decisions in favor of India but it is their honest "fault" when the same hapens to Pakistan?

Simple question. No need twist and turn.
 
Mesozoic said:
As usual you're deliberately missing my point.

How is it BCCI's influence and mOneY when umpires make touch and go decisions in favor of India but it is their honest "fault" when the same hapens to Pakistan?

Simple question. No need twist and turn.
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This thread was made when BD was forced to play in a game where the outfield was wet, and than eramus giving wides on Kohli's appeal and than also not giving Bangladesh runs when India cheated.

You are gonna tell me if this was some other team, with a wet outfield, they would had played? No

Its BCCI influence
 
Major said:
and you still dont understand. When we raise the point, INdians defend it like no tomr that the umpire was right.

You are again arguing for the sake when i have told you the reason
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So, just because some Indian fans expressed their opinion that umpire decision is correct you concluded that BCCI paid off ICC and you questioned the integrity of umpires. Nice logic.
 
Just dropped in to say that, based on the evidence presented in the review that Shakib decision was horrendous. At the time of the spike the bat looked like it was not contacting the ground, if it ever did at all. If it was allowed by the law I would have called him back.

We should prefer to take a thousand losses over a single win based on manipulation and bias as the deprived do.
 
Spidy201 said:
So, just because some Indian fans expressed their opinion that umpire decision is correct you concluded that BCCI paid off ICC and you questioned the integrity of umpires. Nice logic.
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you guys cant critisize a decision when it helps you, we can

BCCI influence did play a factor in the game being played with wet outfield.

Even pakistan vs SA game, the outfield was dried first
 
Major said:
This thread was made when BD was forced to play in a game where the outfield was wet, and than eramus giving wides on Kohli's appeal and than also not giving Bangladesh runs when India cheated.

You are gonna tell me if this was some other team, with a wet outfield, they would had played? No

Its BCCI influence
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Can't believe I'm still hearing this lame wet outfield excuse even after numerous explanations. It's like people deliberately want to keep their heads buried in sand.

Not a single Indian player had any kind of trouble while fielding in that same "wet outfield". Not a single Indian bowler had any issues with their run ups on that same " Wet outfield ". And on top of that, it's the bowling teams who are at a major disadvantage with wet outfields as it makes it harder to grip the ball and also it skids through making it easier for strole making.


Simple plain cricketing common sense. :angel:
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The same fans who were accusing Pakistanis for crying can be seen here crying now. :inti
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No one is crying. We are already through to the next round without depending on minnows to do the dirty work for us. We're good.

Just pointing out the clear hypocrisy when it comes to comprehending favorable umpiring decisions.
 
Mesozoic said:
Can't believe I'm still hearing this lame wet outfield excuse even after numerous explanations. It's like people deliberately want to keep their heads buried in sand.

Not a single Indian player had any kind of trouble while fielding in that same "wet outfield". Not a single Indian bowler had any issues with their run ups on that same " Wet outfield ". And on top of that, it's the bowling teams who are at a major disadvantage with wet outfields as it makes it harder to grip the ball and also it skids through making it easier for strole making.


Simple plain cricketing common sense. :angel:
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i saw the match, the outfield was wet. It was infact soo damp that ball hitting the outfield would stop and not be able to crawl to the boundary, Bangladesh had a huge disadvantage there.

Atleast Pakistan vs Sa, the outfield was first dried up and than play was restarted.
 
Mesozoic said:
No one is crying. We are already through to the next round without depending on minnows to do the dirty work for us. We're good.

Just pointing out the clear hypocrisy when it comes to comprehending favorable umpiring decisions.
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you do know, it was because of the same minnows India qualified for the semis?

India hasn't yet won against the Zimbabwe team to have qualified on its own.
 
Major said:
you guys cant critisize a decision when it helps you, we can

BCCI influence did play a factor in the game being played with wet outfield.

Even pakistan vs SA game, the outfield was dried first
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1. Stop generalizing all “indian fans”. Many do recognize that umpiring decisions go India’s way sometimes.
2. Do you have any real evidence to prove that umpires are not officiating with integrity and are paid for? Any leaked video? Or sting? If you dont have any evidence, isn’t it unfair on umpires that you question there honesty without any ground?
 
Spidy201 said:
1. Stop generalizing all “indian fans”. Many do recognize that umpiring decisions go India’s way sometimes.
2. Do you have any real evidence to prove that umpires are not officiating with integrity and are paid for? Any leaked video? Or sting? If you dont have any evidence, isn’t it unfair on umpires that you question there honesty without any ground?
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1. where did i say all
2. where did i say they are paid for?

There is a difference between paying for and using your powerful influnce.

no need to put words in my mouth :)
 
Major said:
i saw the match, the outfield was wet. It was infact soo damp that ball hitting the outfield would stop and not be able to crawl to the boundary, Bangladesh had a huge disadvantage there.

Atleast Pakistan vs Sa, the outfield was first dried up and than play was restarted.
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Oh you saw the match. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hundreds of cricket games are played on relatively damp outfields where ball plugs after hitting the outfield. Happens almost every summer in England. That doesn't mean it was not suitable to play cricket. You're really clutching onto straws here.
 
Had India been in Pakistan situation in the morning today and SA lost to Netherlands to give India a ticket to semis, this forum would have gone berserk! From SA to umpires to ICC to pitch curator, everyone would have been called corrupt.
 
They have infuence on series, timing, payments, etc..but dont beleive they do in a game where a decion matters from live games . It can't be that obvious,a but tired to see to give them SOOOO MUCH importance etc, and frankly even if you talk about it ( sad that ex-players , you look more stupid )
 
Major said:
1. where did i say all
2. where did i say they are paid for?

There is a difference between paying for and using your powerful influnce.

no need to put words in my mouth :)
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1. Do you read your own posts? Post #314 in this thread “ Pakistanis admit in fault in umpiring, Indians dont.”
2. Then how does BCCI enforce there influence? You think Umpires are under any threat? Or BCCI pays them in IPL? Even though that payment might be for IPL but if that influence there decisions isn’t that a swipe at there integrity? Without an ounce of actual evidence
 
Mesozoic said:
Oh you saw the match. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hundreds of cricket games are played on relatively damp outfields where ball plugs after hitting the outfield. Happens almost every summer in England. That doesn't mean it was not suitable to play cricket. You're really clutching onto straws here.
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no they are not. sorry
 
Spidy201 said:
1. Do you read your own posts? Post #314 in this thread “ Pakistanis admit in fault in umpiring, Indians dont.”
2. Then how does BCCI enforce there influence? You think Umpires are under any threat? Or BCCI pays them in IPL? Even though that payment might be for IPL but if that influence there decisions isn’t that a swipe at there integrity? Without an ounce of actual evidence
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1. where did i said ALL indians?
2. Everything isn't about bribes, no one here said bcci is giving out bribes. There is influence, like having the umpire removed or his future accolades be effected etc.

I never said they gave bribes, thus, stop putting words in other peoples mouth :)
 
Major said:
1. where did i said ALL indians?
2. Everything isn't about bribes, no one here said bcci is giving out bribes. There is influence, like having the umpire removed or his future accolades be effected etc.

I never said they gave bribes, thus, stop putting words in other peoples mouth :)
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You didn’t say “some Indian”. Saying Indians are… do means all Indians.


So you think all decisions that go in favour of Pakistan are genuine umpiring mistakes but decisions that go in favour of India are because “all” umpires are scared of BCCI. “All” umpires, because none have come forward and said that Indian board instigate them or all are craving for favour future “accolades”
 
Spidy201 said:
You didn’t say “some Indian”. Saying Indians are… do means all Indians.


So you think all decisions that go in favour of Pakistan are genuine umpiring mistakes but decisions that go in favour of India are because “all” umpires are scared of BCCI. “All” umpires, because none have come forward and said that Indian board instigate them or all are craving for favour future “accolades”
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DOes Pakistan have same influence as BCCI does? BCCI did ruin doctroves career and at that time BCCI wasnt that big. Plus, eramus gets an IPL contract doesnt he?

The influence of big players in domestic cricket often leads to favorable decisions for them, especailly in the subcontinent. And thats just for players.

When a rich board is playing, umpires and icc officials will try to make them happy to make decisions in their favour.

Tell me how many matches has Richard kettlebrough umpired in ipl ?
 
Mesozoic said:
Oh you saw the match. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hundreds of cricket games are played on relatively damp outfields where ball plugs after hitting the outfield. Happens almost every summer in England. That doesn't mean it was not suitable to play cricket. You're really clutching onto straws here.
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Mate, give it a rest.

The powers that be want India and Pakistan in the finals. Full stop.

Everything else is just an eyewash to ensure this ultimate goal.

The whole tournament has been doctored.
 
Looks like ICC paid CSA to lose against Netherlands so that they can make more money in the final at the G. Not to mention the cheating they have done to get Shakib out which changed the course of the match! Pathetic!!
 
Today is one of the few days in the tournament where Pakistani fans have not cried left, right and center.

If this was a must win match for India and Shakib was given out like this, our fans would be crying like no tomorrow.

ICC have done everything in its power to keep our joker team alive. Not suspending play against South Africa when it was raining cats and dogs and cheating Bangladesh today.

ICC is already wetting itself over the prospect of a Pakistan vs India final. $$$$.
 
New Zealand be warned: you will have to play out of your skins to beat the script in the semifinal.
 
ekpakistani said:
Fact is umpires started the game way too soon.

Fact is second time in so many matches Kohli did the umpiring on the no ball.

None of the above facts have anything to do with Pakistan qualifying or no. Rather how BCCI has influenced cricket and that cricket is well on the way to become WWE when India plays.
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This is what you call a WWE script. Umpires not stopping play when it was raining heavily during Pakistan’s innings vs SA and screwing Shakib over today.

It is funny how BCCI forgot to instruct ICC to show bias to South Africa and Bangladesh to eliminate Pakistan.

Eggs on faces of all the crybabies and victim mentality merchants.
 
Mamoon said:
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This is what you call a WWE script. Umpires not stopping play when it was raining heavily during Pakistan’s innings vs SA and screwing Shakib over today.

It is funny how BCCI forgot to instruct ICC to show bias to South Africa and Bangladesh to eliminate Pakistan.

Eggs on faces of all the crybabies and victim mentality merchants.
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Most Pakistani fans are saying Shakib was not out.
 
Mesozoic said:
Imagine the reaction here if South Africa lost to freaking Netherlands and then a blatant umpiring blunder in a virtual quarter final to ensure India of a semi final spot.
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Crying about BCCICC and then getting unnecessarily defensive when the hypocrisy is pointed out is all too familiar here. Helps when you are a Misbah bha$t and you've had practice defending the indefensible :srini
 
Madplayer said:
Most Pakistani fans are saying Shakib was not out.
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There is a difference between saying he was not out and saying that the umpires benefited Pakistan.

We all know what the reaction would be if India was involved and this decision would have gone in their favor.

We would hear the same nonsense of how ICC is trying to keep India in the tournament.

All the victim mentality fans and conspiracy theorists have been left with eggs on face.

If BCCI had ICC on a string as they claim, they would have instructed umpires to show bias to Bangladesh today so that Pakistan is eliminated.

If Pakistani fans continue to blame BCCI when India get a favorable decision but blame umpires when Pakistan gets a favorable decision, they will be ridiculed for their hypocrisy.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Crying about BCCICC and then getting unnecessarily defensive when the hypocrisy is pointed out is all too familiar here. Helps when you are a Misbah bha$t and you've had practice defending the indefensible :srini
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using banned words,

lol, you guys are in the semi finals, dont know why the insecurity.
 
Mamoon said:
There is a difference between saying he was not out and saying that the umpires benefited Pakistan.

We all know what the reaction would be if India was involved and this decision would have gone in their favor.

We would hear the same nonsense of how ICC is trying to keep India in the tournament.

All the victim mentality fans and conspiracy theorists have been left with eggs on face.

If BCCI had ICC on a string as they claim, they would have instructed umpires to show bias to Bangladesh today so that Pakistan is eliminated.

If Pakistani fans continue to blame BCCI when India get a favorable decision but blame umpires when Pakistan gets a favorable decision, they will be ridiculed for their hypocrisy.
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Your argument is ridden with fallacies. Pakistan doesn't have the means or position to influence anything. India does. So what happens in Pakistan's game is all natural.
 
Madplayer said:
Your argument is ridden with fallacies. Pakistan doesn't have the means or position to influence anything. India does. So what happens in Pakistan's game is all natural.
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Waa jee waa. :)))

When India gets a favorable decision, it is because they control ICC. When Pakistan gets a favorable decision, it is umpire’s error.

This is why Pakistani fans are known all over the world for the hypocrisy and delusion and why they are a laughing stock.
 
Madplayer said:
Your argument is ridden with fallacies. Pakistan doesn't have the means or position to influence anything. India does. So what happens in Pakistan's game is all natural.
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Mera kutta , kutta tuhaada kutta "Tommy" ������
 
Madplayer said:
Your argument is ridden with fallacies. Pakistan doesn't have the means or position to influence anything. India does. So what happens in Pakistan's game is all natural.
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Not when the powers that be want Pakistan in the final, facing India.

They've made a mockery of the game by reducing it to a mere tool to line their pockets.

I hope NZ and England resist the lure of the loot and play the Semis in the proper spirit.

England particularly, have a huge responsibility. They gave the game to the world. They must now save it from the sharks.
 
Mamoon said:
Waa jee waa. :)))

When India gets a favorable decision, it is because they control ICC. When Pakistan gets a favorable decision, it is umpire’s error.

This is why Pakistani fans are known all over the world for the hypocrisy and delusion and why they are a laughing stock.
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Clueless said:
Mera kutta , kutta tuhaada kutta "Tommy"
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gani999 said:
Not when the powers that be want Pakistan in the final, facing India.

They've made a mockery of the game by reducing it to a mere tool to line their pockets.

I hope NZ and England resist the lure of the loot and play the Semis in the proper spirit.

England particularly, have a huge responsibility. They gave the game to the world. They must now save it from the sharks.
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You are deliberately comparing apples with oranges and you know it.

If bcci influences umpires (i might have said this in a jest but dont believe it) or if umpires' decisions during close calls get influenced due to them being part of IPL (this is what i claimed to be a possibility and i stand by it), it doesnt mean that every wrong decision in every match is some conspiracy. This is a fallacious argument and you guys are smart enough to know that. You have to look at who is powerful enough to have such an influence or who is offering great things to the umpires to have an effect on them.
 
gani999 said:
Not when the powers that be want Pakistan in the final, facing India.

They've made a mockery of the game by reducing it to a mere tool to line their pockets.

I hope NZ and England resist the lure of the loot and play the Semis in the proper spirit.

England particularly, have a huge responsibility. They gave the game to the world. They must now save it from the sharks.
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Laughable. You are speculating and offer absolutely no proof. Can’t just claim that matches are doctored, results are fixed etc. - very disrespectful to the players, support staff and their families

Admins - can you please look at this?
 
Madplayer said:
You are deliberately comparing apples with oranges and you know it.

If bcci influences umpires (i might have said this in a jest but dont believe it) or if umpires' decisions during close calls get influenced due to them being part of IPL (this is what i claimed to be a possibility and i stand by it), it doesnt mean that every wrong decision in every match is some conspiracy. This is a fallacious argument and you guys are smart enough to know that. You have to look at who is powerful enough to have such an influence or who is offering great things to the umpires to have an effect on them.
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So umpires cannot make a mistake when India is involved? It has to be an example of bias?

If India is involved, how do you decide if it is a mistake or ICC’s bias, or will you go with your assumptions and pass it as proof?
 
bala977 said:
Laughable. You are speculating and offer absolutely no proof. Can’t just claim that matches are doctored, results are fixed etc. - very disrespectful to the players, support staff and their families

Admins - can you please look at this?
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If admins have to delete his post, why is this thread itself standing?

Your post is applicable to this thread as well. There isn’t a shred of evidence for whatever is mentioned in the OP and backed by Pakistani posters other than their victim mentality and conjecture.
 
Mamoon said:
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This is what you call a WWE script. Umpires not stopping play when it was raining heavily during Pakistan’s innings vs SA and screwing Shakib over today.

It is funny how BCCI forgot to instruct ICC to show bias to South Africa and Bangladesh to eliminate Pakistan.

Eggs on faces of all the crybabies and victim mentality merchants.
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So who has influenced umpires today? I know you are really hurt and understand your frustration , however, provide some logic.

I still standby what I said and if you read my posts you will know where I stand.
 
Mamoon said:
So umpires cannot make a mistake when India is involved? It has to be an example of bias?
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Yes they can make mistakes. But due to IPL money power, IPL umpires can have conflict of interest and may give close calls in favour of India disproportionately (as seen in this tournament). We cannot say the same for any other nation because they dont offer umpires anything close to what IPL offers them.

If India is involved, how do you decide if it is a mistake or ICC’s bias, or will you go with your assumptions and pass it as proof?
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We cannot decide it and we will never know for sure. The only thing we can do is eliminate the possibility of any conflict of interest so that these questions dont even arise.
 
Madplayer said:
Yes they can make mistakes. But due to IPL money power, IPL umpires can have conflict of interest and may give close calls in favour of India disproportionately (as seen in this tournament). We cannot say the same for any other nation because they dont offer umpires anything close to what IPL offers them.



We cannot decide it and we will never know for sure. The only thing we can do is eliminate the possibility of any conflict of interest so that these questions dont even arise.
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Summary:

I am assuming that BCCI influences umpires even though I have zero proof, but it helps me feel better.
 
Madplayer said:
Yes they can make mistakes. But due to IPL money power, IPL umpires can have conflict of interest and may give close calls in favour of India disproportionately (as seen in this tournament). We cannot say the same for any other nation because they dont offer umpires anything close to what IPL offers them.



We cannot decide it and we will never know for sure. The only thing we can do is eliminate the possibility of any conflict of interest so that these questions dont even arise.
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This post-truth world is amazing!!
 
By playing last Ind has a massive advantage in knowing what they had to do. If it came to run rates they would know exactly what to do.
 
Mamoon said:
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This is what you call a WWE script. Umpires not stopping play when it was raining heavily during Pakistan’s innings vs SA and screwing Shakib over today.

It is funny how BCCI forgot to instruct ICC to show bias to South Africa and Bangladesh to eliminate Pakistan.

Eggs on faces of all the crybabies and victim mentality merchants.
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I was at the stadium for the Pak vs SA game and can ensure at no point during Pakistan's innings was it raining heavily.
 
ekpakistani said:
So who has influenced umpires today? I know you are really hurt and understand your frustration , however, provide some logic.

I still standby what I said and if you read my posts you will know where I stand.
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You and others like you have nowhere to stand now.

Like I said earlier, if India was in Pakistan’s situation today and SA would have lost to Netherlands and Shakib would have been screwed over by the umpires, this forum would have been a bloodbath.

Pakistani fans with victim mentality would be crying left right and center and throwing all sorts of accusations on the umpires, ICC, South African players etc.

The reality is that there is no pro India bias, no conspiracy, no agenda against Pakistan. The umpires make mistakes and sometimes they go against you and something they benefit you.

The problem is that Pakistani fans cannot help their victim complex and delusional thinking. It is not limited to cricket only. You will see this in all spheres of life and this is why Pakistan has the reputation that it has.
 
Certain posters are only venting their frustration out. Aaj unhe bhot ziada dukh hoa hai because they have been humiliated.

Shakib evidence look quite convincing as spike was made before ball hit the bat, so spike was made from bat hitting the ground, no comparison to blunders made in favour of India
 
Mamoon said:
Summary:

I am assuming that BCCI influences umpires even though I have zero proof, but it helps me feel better.
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Point out where i said Bcci influences umpires. Apologise like a good boy if you cant.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Blame the post modernists for giving such ammunition to fools of all kinds
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An Indian poster with a track record of foolish + biased posts calling others foolish just because somebody pointed something out. Surprise.
 
Madplayer said:
Point out where i said Bcci influences umpires. Apologise like a good boy if you cant.
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Who was crying his eyes out and coming up with the 1% theory? Please read your own posts and threads.

You have been crying left right and center so I wouldn’t blame you if you don’t remember your own posts.
 
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]

Are you implying that BCCI doesn’t ask umpires to favor India but because of the IPL factor, umpires are naturally (psychologically) inclined to show bias towards India?
 
Madplayer said:
An Indian poster with a track record of foolish + biased posts calling others foolish just because somebody pointed something out. Surprise.
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I wasn't calling you out. My point was that in the post truth era , anybody can push forth an opinion without backing it up with evidence. Whether that makes someone foolish or not is for them to decide.
 
Kriketer said:
Shakib evidence look quite convincing as spike was made before ball hit the bat, so spike was made from bat hitting the ground, no comparison to blunders made in favour of India
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The spike appeared exactly when/where it would be expected to if it was a spike from an edge.
 
Another clue it's a fixed wc :mv.. see the flag arrangements 😝.. and see how Australia huffed and puffed against afg and sa choke vs Ned to make sure both Eng and Pak reach semi 😝😝

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The heir of Darrell Hair, Steve Bucknor, Billy Doctrove, Steve Davis, Marias Erasmus will officiate in Pak v Nz semi
 
 
World T20 2022 is a tournament of conspiracy theories

Almost every game in this tournament involving a sub-continent team has been mired in conspiracy theories.

50:50 decisions such as Kohli vs Rizwan, Kohli's hand gestures after a high ball (which every batsmen would do including Rizwan), Bangladesh's early rain start and other things in their India game, the pitches/conditions apparently being doctored by ICC to help India and Pakistan play a final (after ICC doctored things against Pakistan early in the tournament) and many others. Endless.

Everything without an iota of hard evidence.

You will see that particularly in sub-continental teams (or shall I see only in sub-continental teams?)

The funny thing is, if India loses today, all these theories will be forgotten without any shame and no one will hold anyone's feet to the fire. On to the next one.

Anyone can add circumstantial things together and prove two diametrically opposite theories with equal confidence.

If no evidence is needed, then there is a very low bar to appear intelligent by proposing outlandish theories. And the gullible lap it up and regurgitate without evidence.

Overall, I think it has been a very good tournament, some marginal calls that could have gone either way, some dumb things (like making Zimbabwe play against SA in pouring rain) - but that's part and parcel of any tournament.
 
Pakistanis always have victim mentality. ICC or no other organization is against Pakistan. Our people are the first ones to make excuses. We deserve this humiliation as a nation. Also Shadab only fields for the cameras, I know it’s irrelevant to the discussion but thought I’d say it still.



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Wait what? SA dropped catches, ICC served a subcontinent pitch in Sydney on purpose and got Shakib out on when he wasn’t out?

Nvm. Conspiracy theories are alright. As long as they prove Pakistan is helpless without ICC’s interference and proves that they can’t win with genuine performances. If they do win with genuine performances then it’s a fluke, like CT17.
 
Again a marginal LBW decision given in favour of Kohli. Have the umpires been instructed by the ICC to give marginal calls in favour of India in order to ensure that ICC get their cash cow India-Pakistan final?
 
Suleiman said:
Pakistanis always have victim mentality. ICC or no other organization is against Pakistan. Our people are the first ones to make excuses. We deserve this humiliation as a nation. Also Shadab only fields for the cameras, I know it’s irrelevant to the discussion but thought I’d say it still.



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Wait what? SA dropped catches, ICC served a subcontinent pitch in Sydney on purpose and got Shakib out on when he wasn’t out?

Nvm. Conspiracy theories are alright. As long as they prove Pakistan is helpless without ICC’s interference and proves that they can’t win with genuine performances. If they do win with genuine performances then it’s a fluke, like CT17.
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mamoon being a hypocritical coward?

say it ain't so
 
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