BCCI loses vote in ICC revenue and constitutional changes

[Napa]

The BCCI though, will cease to exist and the Indian public will roast them.

I am as Indian as they come, and I can definitely tell you that I am on BCCI's side rather than ICC's side on this one.

 

[sshakir411]

Time to drop out of Champions trophy and seriously think about expanding IPL to 12 or 16 teams.Let others enjoy and earn whatever they want.

Unfortunately, walking the talk isn't BCCI's forte

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I am as Indian as they come, and I can definitely tell you that I am on BCCI's side rather than ICC's side on this one.

Good for you. Now don't call others 'non indians', 'traitor', 'pakistanis' if they choose to side with ICC on this. Also learn to respect other's opinions too. You are just one person and you are not equal to 99% of indian cricket fans.

 

[bleaf27]

So the BCCI that is crying over what it calls an unfair profit sharing plan will create a new body which will offer equal profits to all of its members?

BCCI can do a lot of things to try and save cricket in India but the best thing to do would be to shut up, take the money and agree to participate in the Champions Trophy like good, little boys. Anything else would be drawn out and counterintuitive.

You missed the whole point ,I'm amazed from everything I'v said that's what you absorbed.
An alternate cricketing body isn't an alien concept - It may arise if need be and BCCI chose to explore other options.
If the other alternate body is created again let's say WCC - the first goal would be to finish ICC and for that profit sharing % would have to be done. and post ICC - leaving the % aside, if India makes lets say 400 mill and other boards - NOT every board but let's say ECB and CA and SAF makes 200 mill each - you think they'd decline that offer ?

BCCI is doing quite good strategic arm twisting and it has gotten ICC to 400 mil. If in their mind 450 was a just figure to compromise which they had the intent for - they are quite close to it. Unless you are on table going back and forth and play hard ball you aren't gonna get it. ICC didn't give SAF ,PCB ,SLC board any raises , did they ?

 

[bleaf27]

for Indians yes, not for others. You have to realize an objection to the Big 3 was never an objection to the money BCCI gets. I think this is the issue. Majority of Indians and indian fans think anyone who objects the Big 3 model was in someway objecting to India getting the largest chunk...this is not true. This model forced all boards to play with the big 3 in order to be financially competitive and this is exactly why the PCB has brought up it's MOU with BCCI a billion times. India can keep however much it wants...we (other cricketing nations' fans) just want a sustainable model that will not make us dependent on other boards specially BCCI. And if today was the first time you looked up what the Big 3 was about than you really have no clue what impact it's had on other boards.

I got no objection to the big 3 model or whatsoever, the legalities are beyond me and I don't see demolition of the big 3 as a problem if that's what you are putting forth as the issue. For me its fairness in terms of profit sharing when it relates directly to revenue generation. I think 400 mil is still a pretty good deal however I am not as informed on what the BCCI's evaluation is.

 

[sshakir411]

I got no objection to the big 3 model or whatsoever, the legalities are beyond me and I don't see demolition of the big 3 as a problem if that's what you are putting forth as the issue. For me its fairness in terms of profit sharing when it relates directly to revenue generation. I think 400 mil is still a pretty good deal however I am not as informed on what the BCCI's evaluation is.

I suggest India keeps whatever it brings in so we're done hearing about 80% revenue and what not. Let Cricket die if it does but please rid us from hearing how much BCCI does for world cricket. It's a win win for India in any case isn't it?

 

[Napa]

Good for you. Now don't call others 'non indians', 'traitor', 'pakistanis' if they choose to side with ICC on this.

I did not refer to you.

I do however represent the majority Indian opinion on this.

 

[Napa]

Quite honestly, it is really time for India to change the way the game is run.

You have countries that have cricketing revenues of 0.01% or 0.02% (Ireland and Afg) of the total revenues given the same power as one which contributes 70%. Obviously this will not work in the long run, might as well recognize reality and get on with changing the governing structure of the game by going at it alone if necessary.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Quite honestly, it is really time for India to change the way the game is run.

You have countries that have cricketing revenues of 0.01% or 0.02% (Ireland and Afg) of the total revenues given the same power as one which contributes 70%. Obviously this will not work in the long run, might as well recognize reality and get on with changing the governing structure of the game by going at it alone if necessary.

Cricket Ireland actually run a small profit and are self sufficient actually. Also, Turkish Airlines became our sponsor just today and our tri series vs BD/NZ will be fully televised on free to air tv (channel is eirsport)

Try and write everyone off as leeches if you want. Reality is the compromise will be taken and cricket will move on and be far the better for it. If some online keyboard warriors get their sense of national pride hurt over a bullying cricket board getting served its own medicine then so be it.

Must say the levels of nationalism in India based off of posters here and news I read is actually scary. What other country on earth would behave so childishly over a damn cricket board

 

[Napa]

Cricket Ireland actually run a small profit and are self sufficient actually. Also, Turkish Airlines became our sponsor just today and our tri series vs BD/NZ will be fully televised on free to air tv (channel is eirsport)

Try and write everyone off as leeches if you want. Reality is the compromise will be taken and cricket will move on and be far the better for it. If some online keyboard warriors get their sense of national pride hurt over a bullying cricket board getting served its own medicine then so be it.

Must say the levels of nationalism in India based off of posters here and news I read is actually scary. What other country on earth would behave so childishly over a damn cricket board

You do realize the paradox of having Indian money subsidize Irish cricket like the plan passed by ICC proposes.

I am sure Ireland has all the money it needs to promote the game when compared to the money available to Indians. The ICC plan is an atrocity, it proposes paying the Irish per capita 26 times it would pay Indians.

I am all for everybody getting along and playing together, but there has to be a modicum of sanity in these affairs.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

You do realize the paradox of having Indian money subsidize Irish cricket like the plan passed by ICC proposes.

I am sure Ireland has all the money it needs to promote the game when compared to the money available to Indians. The ICC plan is an atrocity, it proposes paying the Irish per capita 26 times it would pay Indians.

I am all for everybody getting along and playing together, but there has to be a modicum of sanity in these affairs.

Cricket Ireland do not possess the cash right now to expand to the level required i.e to afford mens teams, u19 tours, A tours, domestic games etc beyond its current form.

Which is why this is needed, increase funding for these teams, so that they can spend it and grow, therefore gain more domestic attention, therefore get more money, therefore increase ICC value therefore increase BCCI's coffers in the long run.

Its not difficult to understand. And the BCCI aren't subsidising anything. 40% of their revenue comes from international bilaterals and TV money, which wouldnt exist in a BCCI monopoly no matter what the ultra patriots say

 

[Napa]

Cricket Ireland do not possess the cash right now to expand to the level required i.e to afford mens teams, u19 tours, A tours, domestic games etc beyond its current form.

Which is why this is needed, increase funding for these teams, so that they can spend it and grow, therefore gain more domestic attention, therefore get more money, therefore increase ICC value therefore increase BCCI's coffers in the long run.

Its not difficult to understand. And the BCCI aren't subsidising anything. 40% of their revenue comes from international bilaterals and TV money, which wouldnt exist in a BCCI monopoly no matter what the ultra patriots say

I believe 70%, say even 50% of the money comes from India (TV advertising etc.). And ICC apparently wants India to get 15%, that definitely is India subsidizing the rest.

So you think it is okay for the ICC to give Ireland 26X per capita that it gives to India. Oh well, there isn't much more for me to say.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Josh, other real Indians like me are definitely with you on this one. We are 99% of the country's population. As for the rest 1% (like Manohar), the less said the better.

Well if ICC agrees to the 445mn figure and Indias objection to governance changes Indian team may yet go to CT.

Lets see what happens here.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

I believe 70%, say even 50% of the money comes from India (TV advertising etc.). And ICC apparently wants India to get 15%, that definitely is India subsidizing the rest.

So you think it is okay for the ICC to give Ireland 26X per capita that it gives to India. Oh well, there isn't much more for me to say.

You realise 1 million bucks buys a hell of a lot more in India than it does in Ireland right. Not only is bringing per capita in here worthless (by this logic give China more than the BCCI) but it doesnt even help your argument, since logicallz countries where the GDP per capita and purchasing power is low like India should receive less than expensive nations like Ireland

 

[cricketjoshila]

2007 WC was just example bro, whatever the reason the end result was the same, if india exits early or india does not participate, the fact is majority of the tournament will be played without india and the result of that on viewership is not good.

If India exits early sponsors cannot leave saying India has exited and so will we.

But if India pulls out then the original terms of agreement change and sponsors will renegotiate.

 

[bleaf27]

I suggest India keeps whatever it brings in so we're done hearing about 80% revenue and what not. Let Cricket die if it does but please rid us from hearing how much BCCI does for world cricket. It's a win win for India in any case isn't it?

Well my point is simple - I support fairness and this isn't exclusive to cricket. If ICC is a company that makes money from it's sales people ( cricketing boards) when it comes to your paycheque - it should be proportional to what you bring in - quite simple as that. Giving incompetent boards such as WICB 132 mil and boards such as PCB for example 132 mil then what is the difference ? Where is the incentive to get the numbers and grow the sport within your country ?
If I am a great employee to my company and work hard and twice as number of sales as compared to some of slacker co-workers and we all get the paid the same , not very fair then is it ?

 

[Napa]

You realise 1 million bucks buys a hell of a lot more in India than it does in Ireland right. Not only is bringing per capita in here worthless (by this logic give China more than the BCCI) but it doesnt even help your argument, since logicallz countries where the GDP per capita and purchasing power is low like India should receive less than expensive nations like Ireland

Your argument is that the rich should get less than the poor per capita because expenses are higher in rich countries.

The rich need to be subsidized by the poor, nice try!

China is irrelevant in this discussion as it is a combination of revenues generated and per capita money received.

 

[bleaf27]

Cricket Ireland do not possess the cash right now to expand to the level required i.e to afford mens teams, u19 tours, A tours, domestic games etc beyond its current form.

Which is why this is needed, increase funding for these teams, so that they can spend it and grow, therefore gain more domestic attention, therefore get more money, therefore increase ICC value therefore increase BCCI's coffers in the long run.

Its not difficult to understand. And the BCCI aren't subsidising anything. 40% of their revenue comes from international bilaterals and TV money, which wouldnt exist in a BCCI monopoly no matter what the ultra patriots say

Ireland cricket or any other associate cricketing nation needs to grow , there's no question in that but ICC's incompetency to find alternate sources of revenue or to make cricket grow in the associate nations is the underlying problem. With the total revenue being given to the ICC - if those funds aren't being managed well , it isn't BCCI's fault. If all boards equal - are all boards equally bringing the money in for the ICC revenue ? certainly not. So if WCB/PCB/SLC/SAF all these boards get paid the same money from the ICC - what is the incentive for one cricketing board to work harder than the other or make any effort to grow the sport?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Same way South Africa were blacklisted for years. Of course, some foreign players will still play in India but not the elite ones. ICC can make it useless to play India by revoking their membership status.

There were UN sanctions on SA.You think UN will sanction India?LOL.

ICC revenues will come down drastically if India withdraws.So the revenue share of each country will come down.On top of that ICC will tell them that you cannot host your most lucrative home series.So double whammy in revenue loss.Then if BCCI starts offering multi million dollar contracts to these people boards are expected to match that.Triple whammy.

Boycott India!!!!LOL.

You think the Govts of BD/SL/SA will allow a sporting boycott of India and damage their relations with India?You think India doesnt have leverage and influence to make sure that majority of countries dont do any boycott.

ICC will revoke membership of how many countries?

What will happen when Indian govt retaliates and bans ICC in India?Which companies will sponsor ICC and there by lose out tapping the Indian market?

 

[sshakir411]

Well my point is simple - I support fairness and this isn't exclusive to cricket. If ICC is a company that makes money from it's sales people ( cricketing boards) when it comes to your paycheque - it should be proportional to what you bring in - quite simple as that. Giving incompetent boards such as WICB 132 mil and boards such as PCB for example 132 mil then what is the difference ? Where is the incentive to get the numbers and grow the sport within your country ?
If I am a great employee to my company and work hard and twice as number of sales as compared to some of slacker co-workers and we all get the paid the same , not very fair then is it ?

I think you don't get what I've been trying to say. India should keep whatever it brings in. Why does it share?

 

[bleaf27]

I think you don't get what I've been trying to say. India should keep whatever it brings in. Why does it share?

You reckon ICC will let India or any other board for that matter make it that way ?

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Your argument is that the rich should get less than the poor per capita because expenses are higher in rich countries.

The rich need to be subsidized by the poor, nice try!

China is irrelevant in this discussion as it is a combination of revenues generated and per capita money received.

No my argument is per capita is an unbelievably dumb aspect to bring in here which makes no sense considering this is sport we're talking about. But if you want to bring it in I'm saying that Ireland and NZ should get more than the rest since they'd require more money to purchase the same things as everyone else as they're so expensive. If 1 dollar in India buys 4 of one item and the same dollar buys only one of that same item in NZ then why wouldn't they need more

If anything per capita is reason for India to get even less lol. That 290 million dollars is probably equivalent to 400 million or even more in a country like Australia or England, but I'm open to correction on this

 

[sshakir411]

You reckon ICC will let India or any other board for that matter make it that way ?

well, hasn't BCCI successfully bullied the ICC in the past?

 

[bleaf27]

well, hasn't BCCI successfully bullied the ICC in the past?

Well again this isn't bullying . Secondly 100% was never demanded - it should be "just" , what you may deem to be just may not be just to me. whatever BCCI deems fair for its worth - It would agree to. ICC is not stupid to give 400 mil and if that is fair to the BCCI , then so be it.

 

[Napa]

No my argument is per capita is an unbelievably dumb aspect to bring in here which makes no sense considering this is sport we're talking about.

It may not make sense to you, but it makes eminent sense to me that a youngster wherever he/she may be in the world should receive the same amount of money to develop.

Even if you take into account purchasing power parity (PPP as economists abbreviate), the factor is 4X, not 26X as ICC proposes.

But if you want to bring it in I'm saying that Ireland and NZ should get more than the rest since they'd require more money to purchase the same things as everyone else as they're so expensive. If 1 dollar in India buys 4 of one item and the same dollar buys only one of that same item in NZ then why wouldn't they need more

Things are more expensive in richer countries. Poorer countries shouldn't be subsidizing richer countries.

If anything per capita is reason for India to get even less lol. That 290 million dollars is probably equivalent to 400 million or even more in a country like Australia or England, but I'm open to correction on this

This doesn't make any sense at all. If $290 million given to India has the same impact as $400 million given to Australia, then an economist would say you should give the marginal dollar to India and not Australia.

 

[Donal Cozzie]

It may not make sense to you, but it makes eminent sense to me that a youngster wherever he/she may be in the world should receive the same amount of money to develop.

Even if you take into account purchasing power parity (PPP as economists abbreviate), the factor is 4X, not 26X as ICC proposes.



Things are more expensive in richer countries. Poorer countries shouldn't be subsidizing richer countries.



This doesn't make any sense at all. If $290 million given to India has the same impact as $400 million given to Australia, then an economist would say you should give the marginal dollar to India and not Australia.

You are correct.

Anyway for my final post on this thread I wanna state that obviously India should get more than anyone else. But they bullied their way with figures that were never actually published to get the Big 3 pushed through in the first place. For India fans to act as if they've been mistreated here is hilarious.

Take the 100 million on the table. You're richer than 2 years ago and richer than everyone else. Everyone else stays happy with the current money situation and we can move on. Learn from the experience and quit using bullying and underhand tactics to get your wish.

 

[Napa]

You are correct.

Anyway for my final post on this thread I wanna state that obviously India should get more than anyone else. But they bullied their way with figures that were never actually published to get the Big 3 pushed through in the first place. For India fans to act as if they've been mistreated here is hilarious.

Take the 100 million on the table. You're richer than 2 years ago and richer than everyone else. Everyone else stays happy with the current money situation and we can move on. Learn from the experience and quit using bullying and underhand tactics to get your wish.

In a deal there has to be compromise and nobody gets everything they want. Your post is reasonable and you appear as someone who one could make a deal with.

I am afraid Manohar and ICC are not reasonable people.

 

[Napa]

According to reports ICC paid ZC $19 million and WICB $40 million to get them to vote against India.

It is time India cut its ties with ICC.

 

[BD-fan]

According to reports ICC paid ZC $19 million and WICB $40 million to get them to vote against India.

It is time India cut its ties with ICC.

Those who take the bribe are equally at fault with those who bribe.

It should be, "It is time India cut its ties with ICC, WI and Zim."

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Well well well....

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our formula was win win for all. It was not listened to by bcci reps at icc. Sad. We will try to make amends says Vinod rai.</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231551985098752">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vinod rai had spoken to 8 boards and had got their support. Worked out a formula. Shunned by bcci reps at icc says the coa boss. Sad</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231985609121793">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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[Napa]

Well well well....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coa chief Vinod rai to me despite all instructions our advice not heeded. Sad day for indian cricket. We worked out formula with all boards.</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231360167092224">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our formula was win win for all. It was not listened to by bcci reps at icc. Sad. We will try to make amends says Vinod rai.</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231551985098752">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vinod rai had spoken to 8 boards and had got their support. Worked out a formula. Shunned by bcci reps at icc says the coa boss. Sad</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231985609121793">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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Who is Boria Majumdar, what is her standing here, and why is Rai providing her information privately???

 

[Taaya]

According to reports ICC paid ZC $19 million and WICB $40 million to get them to vote against India.

It is time India cut its ties with ICC.

Did you forget all the bribes BCCI has handed out in previous negotiations? And have you also forgotten the post you made recently about BCCI bribing SA with $10 million to tour India?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well well well....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Coa chief Vinod rai to me despite all instructions our advice not heeded. Sad day for indian cricket. We worked out formula with all boards.</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231360167092224">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our formula was win win for all. It was not listened to by bcci reps at icc. Sad. We will try to make amends says Vinod rai.</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231551985098752">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vinod rai had spoken to 8 boards and had got their support. Worked out a formula. Shunned by bcci reps at icc says the coa boss. Sad</p>— Boria Majumdar (@BoriaMajumdar) <a href="https://twitter.com/BoriaMajumdar/status/857231985609121793">26 April 2017</a></blockquote>
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The guy is incorrect.Every source you want from Cricinfo to TOI to anyone says CoA led by Rai asked for 445mn the same figure BCCI asked for.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Did you forget all the bribes BCCI has handed out in previous negotiations? And have you also forgotten the post you made recently about BCCI bribing SA with $10 million to tour India?

The ICC money is members money,can the ICC give out doles like that without budgeting and getting it passed?

 

[90MPH]

I still can't believe the victim mentality from a lot of Indians fans displayed here.

First of all you are behaving as if you got robbed. You didn't. In case you forgot your board was at the forefront at creating one of the most unfair, absurd financial cricket deals in the history of sport back in 2014.

The only aspect that has changed Now is that original absurd decision has been reversed. And bizzarley I seem to remember it was only Indian fans defending the financial model at the time (which was made in secret but leaked out before final agreement).

BCCI do not have a leg to stand on this one, they bribed and made secret pacts to get more money because they don't give two hoots about the game of cricket but now they have been bitten back hard and humiliated a few years later.

That's what happens when you get greedy.

Lastly remember this is a sport and a club where everyone has a say. It's not a business where just because you are bigger you get everything your way.

If you don't like it leave, it's as simple as that. But if you want to stay then be fair to others and they will be fair to you.

 

[Taaya]

The ICC money is members money,can the ICC give out doles like that without budgeting and getting it passed?

So it is acceptable for BCCI to bribe these boards (and in many cases, not honour the agreements!), and now that ICC has outmaneuvered the BCCI it is considered unethical? The hypocrisy is strong and real.

I am sure whatever money the ICC has promised these boards has been done in the form of allowances in constitutional manner. Plus, these boards know they can trust the ICC. The BCCI cannot be trusted, as it has proven time and time again. It is only concerned with itself, and will use any dirty tactics to strengthen its financial muscle.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So it is acceptable for BCCI to bribe these boards (and in many cases, not honour the agreements!), and now that ICC has outmaneuvered the BCCI it is considered unethical? The hypocrisy is strong and real.

I am sure whatever money the ICC has promised these boards has been done in the form of allowances in constitutional manner. Plus, these boards know they can trust the ICC. The BCCI cannot be trusted, as it has proven time and time again. It is only concerned with itself, and will use any dirty tactics to strengthen its financial muscle.

India doesnt give dole outs like this.It tours the country and that provides massive windfall for that board.

The Govt of India has banned cricketing relations with Pakistan.Thats a force majeure.The BCCI cant break the law and play Pakistan.

And no CSA havent claimed any breach of agreement and BCCI certainly doesnt hace agreements with Ehsan Mani.

You are sure ICC found 59mn USD lying around to give out as allowances?Can you remind me which country has ever been given such allowances?This not 59usd.This is 59mn USD.

I am sure ICC will found more money to give out when India pulls out.They can give the 293mn also to its other members.

 

[Taaya]

India doesnt give dole outs like this.It tours the country and that provides massive windfall for that board.

The Govt of India has banned cricketing relations with Pakistan.Thats a force majeure.The BCCI cant break the law and play Pakistan.

And no CSA havent claimed any breach of agreement and BCCI certainly doesnt hace agreements with Ehsan Mani.

You are sure ICC found 59mn USD lying around to give out as allowances?Can you remind me which country has ever been given such allowances?This not 59usd.This is 59mn USD.

I am sure ICC will found more money to give out when India pulls out.They can give the 293mn also to its other members.

Every post you make includes a threat about Indian pulling out of the CT/ICC events. You are seriously behaving like an insecure individual who has to make threats because things did not go exactly the way they wanted.

We will see if the BCCI pulls out of ICC events. If they do, so be it - its a loss for everyone involved. If they don't, then how will you handle yourself? Will you abandon the BCCI for having a lack of patriotism? I remember you were making confident assumptions a few months ago about the BCCI negotiating other boards like SLC, BCB, ZC, WICB and getting them on your side. You never thought this situation would develop where all the boards have abandoned the BCCI. And now your only defence mechanism is to threaten to pull out of cricket events which cricket fans live for, such as the ODI WC.

Cricket is a global sport. It is not strictly a cash cow for the BCCI. In order to maintain and develop the sport, the other countries need to treated well. India has been blessed by a large population that is cricket hungry. It needs to embrace the role as the leader of the sport and ensure that it remains in good health globally. This crying and threatening needs to stop - it simply shows that you are not ready to be a leader of the sport.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Every post you make includes a threat about Indian pulling out of the CT/ICC events. You are seriously behaving like an insecure individual who has to make threats because things did not go exactly the way they wanted.

I am not making any threats.The BCCI has said they are considering a pull out among other options.

We will see if the BCCI pulls out of ICC events. If they do, so be it - its a loss for everyone involved. If they don't, then how will you handle yourself? Will you abandon the BCCI for having a lack of patriotism? I remember you were making confident assumptions a few months ago about the BCCI negotiating other boards like SLC, BCB, ZC, WICB and getting them on your side. You never thought this situation would develop where all the boards have abandoned the BCCI. And now your only defence mechanism is to threaten to pull out of cricket events which cricket fans live for, such as the ODI WC

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I will be happy if BCCI pulls out of ICC events.The ICC can keep all its revenue.BCCI can only play bilaterals and IPL.I have no issues.It is unlikely that BCCI will take 390mn and sit down.Negotiations may happen.The figure may go close to 445mn.Thats a figure everyone in BCCI is willing to take.The SLC still voted with India. The reason for change of vote of ZC and WICB has been revealed.The thing is BCCI is being run by retired bureaucrat/Historian/a little known player right now.They have little knowledge of ICC and its no surprise they have been outmanuevered.

The BCCI believes that its price to participate in ICC events is more than the 293mn its being offered.Its better to leave.The rest of the boards can keep that 293mn and share it.Where is the problem?

Cricket is a global sport. It is not strictly a cash cow for the BCCI. In order to maintain and develop the sport, the other countries need to treated well. India has been blessed by a large population that is cricket hungry. It needs to embrace the role as the leader of the sport and ensure that it remains in good health globally. This crying and threatening needs to stop - it simply shows that you are not ready to be a leader of the sport.

India first needs to take care of itself before it takes care of others.As you see its every board for itself in ICC.Its only money that matters.

 

[princeuk]

I still can't believe the victim mentality from a lot of Indians fans displayed here.

First of all you are behaving as if you got robbed. You didn't. In case you forgot your board was at the forefront at creating one of the most unfair, absurd financial cricket deals in the history of sport back in 2014.

The only aspect that has changed Now is that original absurd decision has been reversed. And bizzarley I seem to remember it was only Indian fans defending the financial model at the time (which was made in secret but leaked out before final agreement).

BCCI do not have a leg to stand on this one, they bribed and made secret pacts to get more money because they don't give two hoots about the game of cricket but now they have been bitten back hard and humiliated a few years later.

That's what happens when you get greedy.

Lastly remember this is a sport and a club where everyone has a say. It's not a business where just because you are bigger you get everything your way.

If you don't like it leave, it's as simple as that. But if you want to stay then be fair to others and they will be fair to you.

Victim mentality indeed, when BCCI had bullied other boards in the past their fans didn't give a hoot and now the world has become an unfair place because it's been dished back to india. It's been a long time coming.

 

[Taaya]

I am not making any threats.The BCCI has said they are considering a pull out among other options.

India first needs to take care of itself before it takes care of others.As you see its every board for itself in ICC.Its only money that matters.

This explains your mentality well, my friend. India will be nothing without other cricketing nations. This is why the ICC should be running cricket - the BCCI is simply not ready to lead the cricketing administration. It is too greedy and selfish.

"It is only money that matters." Explains the shenanigans of the BCCI well, doesn't it? Bullying smaller cricket boards, dishonouring agreements, threatening to pull out of ICC events. That mantra explains all of their actions very well.

 

[RexRex]

The freeloaders of the cricket world are rejoicing now that the middle class indian consumer has been forced to underwrite all their bills. Have some self respect , people. You should never ask for what is not yours.

Atleast 30 % of ICC revenue should go to India.

 

[bleaf27]

I still can't believe the victim mentality from a lot of Indians fans displayed here.

First of all you are behaving as if you got robbed. You didn't. In case you forgot your board was at the forefront at creating one of the most unfair, absurd financial cricket deals in the history of sport back in 2014.

The only aspect that has changed Now is that original absurd decision has been reversed. And bizzarley I seem to remember it was only Indian fans defending the financial model at the time (which was made in secret but leaked out before final agreement).

BCCI do not have a leg to stand on this one, they bribed and made secret pacts to get more money because they don't give two hoots about the game of cricket but now they have been bitten back hard and humiliated a few years later.

That's what happens when you get greedy.

Lastly remember this is a sport and a club where everyone has a say. It's not a business where just because you are bigger you get everything your way.

If you don't like it leave, it's as simple as that. But if you want to stay then be fair to others and they will be fair to you.

I think you are quite mistaken - BCCI has never run to other boards or ICC for complaining and being the "victim" so certainly that doesn't apply. PCB on other hand continues to do so. In a victim mentality - you choose to cry and play a sympathy card - BCCI is putting forth its foot down to negotiate - victim's don't negotiate.

Secondly , you are right . They aren't robbed - Is 400 mil a good figure ? Yes . Do I feel BCCI should get more ? Yes. Does BCCI feel it should get more ? Yes. It's not any harder than that.

Thirdly, unless you were there in signing of those secret pacts and signed the cheques for bribery - Now when you mention bribery - does that mean what the ICC has done right now with the WI board and Zimbawe board to get their votes ?

Fourthly , I am not sure except your personal opinion - what BCCI does for cricket , for itself isn't for you to judge. Your opinion is solely yours - doesn't make it a fact.

If you think PCB getting 132 mil is fair - good for you. I think it is more than what is fair but its hard to justify for them to get more. If BCCI feels it deserves more , does it need your consent or anyone else's consent ? No , this isn't a popularity contest - If BCCI feels it deserves more it will make a pitch for itself and negotiate and it has done that quite succesfully to get the 400 mil. If you are content at 132 - well you have no other choice or bargaining chips - BCCI does and it has used it quite well

 

[Eagle_Eye]

The freeloaders of the cricket world are rejoicing now that the middle class indian consumer has been forced to underwrite all their bills. Have some self respect , people. You should never ask for what is not yours.

Atleast 30 % of ICC revenue should go to India.

Why are you sounding so desperate? Let the private companies and consumers make up their mind and in the meantime bcci should go it alone.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

I think you are quite mistaken - BCCI has never run to other boards or ICC for complaining and being the "victim" so certainly that doesn't apply. PCB on other hand continues to do so. In a victim mentality - you choose to cry and play a sympathy card - BCCI is putting forth its foot down to negotiate - victim's don't negotiate.

Secondly , you are right . They aren't robbed - Is 400 mil a good figure ? Yes . Do I feel BCCI should get more ? Yes. Does BCCI feel it should get more ? Yes. It's not any harder than that.

Thirdly, unless you were there in signing of those secret pacts and signed the cheques for bribery - Now when you mention bribery - does that mean what the ICC has done right now with the WI board and Zimbawe board to get their votes ?

Fourthly , I am not sure except your personal opinion - what BCCI does for cricket , for itself isn't for you to judge. Your opinion is solely yours - doesn't make it a fact.

If you think PCB getting 132 mil is fair - good for you. I think it is more than what is fair but its hard to justify for them to get more. If BCCI feels it deserves more , does it need your consent or anyone else's consent ? No , this isn't a popularity contest - If BCCI feels it deserves more it will make a pitch for itself and negotiate and it has done that quite succesfully to get the 400 mil. If you are content at 132 - well you have no other choice or bargaining chips - BCCI does and it has used it quite well

No. You got backside handed to you on a plate. Toe the the line or get lost. It's very simple choice.

Why the hue and cry, go and play your year long ipl.

 

[bleaf27]

No. You got backside handed to you on a plate. Toe the the line or get lost. It's very simple choice.

Why the hue and cry, go and play your year long ipl.

Your lack of common sense is remarkable. Let me break some numbers down to you so you can easily understand .
BCCI is being offered 400 mil - If you consider that backside handed on a plate then PCB's 132 million is not even on the plate - more like crumbs on the floor ?
Whether they decide to stand further or compromise with a bigger amount - why does it bother you so much ? Live on the handouts given to you and stay quiet - let the big boys fight this out .

 

[Donal Cozzie]

Why are Indian fans now acting as if the BCCI is getting forced to give Zimbabwe money as if this was new?

As [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] pointed out several times in the past, the ICC wanted to do something about ZCB's corruption many many times yet the BCCI buried the reports as the ZCB was a voting ally. You can't assist and fund corruption when it suits you by turning a blind eye to it and then bankrolling it with the several tours given to Zimbabwe after the Big 3 vote and complain about it when it goes against you.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Your lack of common sense is remarkable. Let me break some numbers down to you so you can easily understand .
BCCI is being offered 400 mil - If you consider that backside handed on a plate then PCB's 132 million is not even on the plate - more like crumbs on the floor ?
Whether they decide to stand further or compromise with a bigger amount - why does it bother you so much ? Live on the handouts given to you and stay quiet - let the big boys fight this out .

Toe the line or get lost, which part is not easy to understand?

 

[bleaf27]

Toe the line or get lost, which part is not easy to understand?

What role in a negotiation deal being made has to do with that ? Better get on the floor and pick the crumbs up before you lose that as well. Let the big boys play the politics

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Why are Indian fans now acting as if the BCCI is getting forced to give Zimbabwe money as if this was new?

As [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] pointed out several times in the past, the ICC wanted to do something about ZCB's corruption many many times yet the BCCI buried the reports as the ZCB was a voting ally. You can't assist and fund corruption when it suits you by turning a blind eye to it and then bankrolling it with the several tours given to Zimbabwe after the Big 3 vote and complain about it when it goes against you.

bcci was supporting and nurturing corruption... how very unsurprising

 

[bleaf27]

bcci was supporting and nurturing corruption... how very unsurprising

Quite proudly actually. BCCI is a business entity and so it should do what any for profit company should do. What's with the moral policing ?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

What role in a negotiation deal being made has to do with that ? Better get on the floor and pick the crumbs up before you lose that as well. Let the big boys play the politics

Pcb wanted the change, it got it.

Bcci went with bravado and empty threats, ended up getting backside handed on a plate to them. Even the pet boards that you been protecting voted against you. Now have some shame, act on your threats and go alone.

 

[msb314]

And ICC needs India to earn revenue so no need to NOT give what India wants.

The $400M offer is still on the table according to ICC.

 

[bleaf27]

Pcb wanted the change, it got it.

Bcci went with bravado and empty threats, ended up getting backside handed on a plate to them. Even the pet boards that you been protecting voted against you. Now have some shame, act on your threats and go alone.

PCB couldn't get any more money but it wanted a change so got it ? Are you that naive or just clutching at anything to feel good. PCB is not even a major player in the ICC - ECB /CA and BCCI still are.
400 million is not *** handed it is a very well negotiated deal . When was the last time PCB got a raise ? Yeah exactly.
BCCI is being given extra 100 million to please them - That is the total money PCB makes so I were you I'd keep quiet. BCCI is still being offered 3 times more than your incompetent board.
Like I said let the big boys play this in the boardroom - you need to be content with the crumbs for now.

 

[big_gamer007]

The $400M offer is still on the table according to ICC.

400 mill is on table BCCI wants 445mill I guess they will compromise at around 420millionish.

 

[Napa]

I still can't believe the victim mentality from a lot of Indians fans displayed here.

First of all you are behaving as if you got robbed. You didn't. In case you forgot your board was at the forefront at creating one of the most unfair, absurd financial cricket deals in the history of sport back in 2014.

The only aspect that has changed Now is that original absurd decision has been reversed. And bizzarley I seem to remember it was only Indian fans defending the financial model at the time (which was made in secret but leaked out before final agreement).

BCCI do not have a leg to stand on this one, they bribed and made secret pacts to get more money because they don't give two hoots about the game of cricket but now they have been bitten back hard and humiliated a few years later.

That's what happens when you get greedy.

Lastly remember this is a sport and a club where everyone has a say. It's not a business where just because you are bigger you get everything your way.

If you don't like it leave, it's as simple as that. But if you want to stay then be fair to others and they will be fair to you.

Every post you make includes a threat about Indian pulling out of the CT/ICC events. You are seriously behaving like an insecure individual who has to make threats because things did not go exactly the way they wanted.

We will see if the BCCI pulls out of ICC events. If they do, so be it - its a loss for everyone involved. If they don't, then how will you handle yourself? Will you abandon the BCCI for having a lack of patriotism? I remember you were making confident assumptions a few months ago about the BCCI negotiating other boards like SLC, BCB, ZC, WICB and getting them on your side. You never thought this situation would develop where all the boards have abandoned the BCCI. And now your only defence mechanism is to threaten to pull out of cricket events which cricket fans live for, such as the ODI WC.

Cricket is a global sport. It is not strictly a cash cow for the BCCI. In order to maintain and develop the sport, the other countries need to treated well. India has been blessed by a large population that is cricket hungry. It needs to embrace the role as the leader of the sport and ensure that it remains in good health globally. This crying and threatening needs to stop - it simply shows that you are not ready to be a leader of the sport.

It is not about being insecure, victim mentality or complaining. It is about reminding ICC that it is our money and we will not accept an unfair deal.

 

[msb314]

400 mill is on table BCCI wants 445mill I guess they will compromise at around 420millionish.

Yeah I think they will accept it.

 

[hitthestump]

We will reflect on these incidents in 50 years time when cricket is dead.

 

[bleaf27]

Yeah I think they will accept it.

I think they should , 400 mil is a pretty good offer but then again neither I speak for BCCI or the ICC - the two relevant parties are going back and forth and that's how negotiations are.

 

[Napa]

Why are you sounding so desperate? Let the private companies and consumers make up their mind and in the meantime bcci should go it alone.

ICC is as much a "private company" as BCCI is.

There is big money to be made by TV advertising during cricket games in India. Indians naturally feel they should get that money.

 

[GrandMaster]

Yes, I personally feel BCCI should not negotiate, thoroughly deserves the 22.9% share. If asking your rights in bullying, then yes BCCI should continue bullying.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

Yes, I personally feel BCCI should not negotiate, thoroughly deserves the 22.9% share. If asking your rights in bullying, then yes BCCI should continue bullying.

Where is the math or logic behind that number though? It was never provided in the 2014 arbitrary "contributiom factor" nonsense.

The fact is India can't earn any money without playing against an XI from a foreign country. And the IPL won't work without foreign players.

Its a globalized and integrated economy.

Otherwise the USA can demand anything from any other country by saying that 70% of the world's revenue is generated by them because they have the world's largest economy at 20 trillion dollars.

 

[Bilal7]

There were UN sanctions on SA.You think UN will sanction India?LOL.

ICC revenues will come down drastically if India withdraws.So the revenue share of each country will come down.On top of that ICC will tell them that you cannot host your most lucrative home series.So double whammy in revenue loss.Then if BCCI starts offering multi million dollar contracts to these people boards are expected to match that.Triple whammy.

Boycott India!!!!LOL.

You think the Govts of BD/SL/SA will allow a sporting boycott of India and damage their relations with India?You think India doesnt have leverage and influence to make sure that majority of countries dont do any boycott.

ICC will revoke membership of how many countries?

What will happen when Indian govt retaliates and bans ICC in India?Which companies will sponsor ICC and there by lose out tapping the Indian market?

Boycott India as in boycott the Indian cricket team. Same thing India has been doing with Pakistan, where they play every other sport but not mens' cricket. How many players will the BCCI offer multi-million dollar contract, especially after they themselves have to live off peanuts because there is no international cricket going on and the Indian public is losing interest?

The BCCI can do whatever the hell it wants. The fact of the matter is that the ICC still has 9, potentially 11 markets to rely on while the BCCI only has one and that market will get fed up of watching Indians play against Indians real quick. How popular is the Ranji season there? That's the level of popularity you can expect for any competitions, leagues or tournament that the BCCI tries to put together once they are booted out of the ICC.

Will Indians rather watch a bunch of trundlers bowl at domestic batsmen or will they tune in to watch the Ashes or Boult bowl to AB or Starc bowl to Amla? Will they rather watch a domestic competition of the World Cup? I think they'll choose international cricket over domestic cricket.

None of this is going to happen though because the BCCI is much smarter than you. They know pulling off a move like this will destroy them and they are all about self-preservation.

 

[Bilal7]

You missed the whole point ,I'm amazed from everything I'v said that's what you absorbed.
An alternate cricketing body isn't an alien concept - It may arise if need be and BCCI chose to explore other options.
If the other alternate body is created again let's say WCC - the first goal would be to finish ICC and for that profit sharing % would have to be done. and post ICC - leaving the % aside, if India makes lets say 400 mill and other boards - NOT every board but let's say ECB and CA and SAF makes 200 mill each - you think they'd decline that offer ?

BCCI is doing quite good strategic arm twisting and it has gotten ICC to 400 mil. If in their mind 450 was a just figure to compromise which they had the intent for - they are quite close to it. Unless you are on table going back and forth and play hard ball you aren't gonna get it. ICC didn't give SAF ,PCB ,SLC board any raises , did they ?

I couldn't care less what the PCB gets. They are not giving me a penny so I don't see the point of being happy or sad based on their profits. As long as they put the money they do have to good use, I don't really care.

The whole point of the BCCI threatening to boycott the CT and put its membership at risk is the gap between what profits the BCCI wants and what the rest of the boards think is reasonable. It would be extremely stupid to get kicked out of the ICC for 50-100 million and then create a separate body where they take an even lesser share for years on end.

The BCCI is unethical but not stupid. Some of you Indian fans need to start looking at things more rationally.

 

[Bilal7]

ICC is as much a "private company" as BCCI is.

There is big money to be made by TV advertising during cricket games in India. Indians naturally feel they should get that money.

You're not getting a penny of that. Not sure why some of you are fighting for this as if you're all on the BCCI's payroll. Worry about your own income.

 

[SL_Fan]

BCCI are just playing hardball demanding $570 mil. The $400 mil offer is still on the table and the CoA (Committee of Administrators appointed by Supreme Court of India to supervise the BCCI) will apparently step in at around the $445 million mark. So $393-445 mil to BCCI that’s most likely where things should end up. Which btw is close to four times that of most of the other top teams and of course a dollar in India will go a long way compared to say in Eng or Oz.

 

[SL_Fan]

BCCI didn't consult me before going to ICC meet: Vinod Rai

Vinod Rai, the head of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) Committee of Administrators (CoA), on Thursday revealed that the office bearers of the national cricket board didn't consult him before going for the recent International Cricket Council (ICC) meeting in Dubai. Rai further revealed that he had called for a CoA meeting following the BCCI Special General Meeting (SGM), but secretary Amitabh Choudhury was the only one to attend the same.

"Before going they didn't consult us. I called a CoA meeting after the SGM in Mumbai. Amitabh was the only one to come. The other two didn't come. Let them come back, I have advised to convene the SGM. So,let them convene SGM and decide," Rai said in a telephonic conversation to ANI.

BCCI office bearers- Amitabh Choudhury and treasurer Anirudh Chaudhry -had rejected the ICC's settlement offer worth approximately $400 million - $100 million more the proposed $290 million. Their rejection came as BCCI wanted the share it was getting under the Big Three model, i.e. $570 million.

 

[SL_Fan]

Add to that

The Supreme Court-appointed Committee of Administrators (COA) led by Former CAG Vinod Rai is currently overseeing BCCI operations. They are making it amply clear as far as they are concerned the way out of the current crisis is not strong arm tactics. After losing the ICC vote and significant revenue share the BCCI general body is likely to meet next week to mull over the decision to pull the Indian team out of Champions trophy.

It's clear any such decision will not have the blessings of COA. "The consequences of such a move will be legal. We may have to cough up a heavy figure. Besides it will give Indian cricket a bad name," the BCCI COA source told India Today.

The COA members had communicated this line to the BCCI representative at ICC who overlooked their advice did exactly what the BCCI SGM asked him to stick to the original revenue sharing formula that best suits BCCI.

"Indian cricket is doing very well on the field. We need to showcase them not (boycott). If we don't go what will the players do in June? Let's not get them demoralized," he added.

With the big wigs in BCCI expected to get together only next week, the players may remain in the dark longer. Will this decision go to the courts as well? "We don't want to take a hypothetical view. We are not against elected members. We will go that way only if they follow the negative route," he said.

 

[jagatk]

I see a lot of india bashing going on as if india is the bad guy while manohar is a saint saving cricket from evil bcci, people need to remember that one of the reasons why bcci did not manage to get votes is not because all boards came together in solidarity but because ICC bought votes much like bcci does, ZCB will get $19 mn to sort out its loan, WICB has asked for a $40 mn loan and will mostly get it, also a question no one really asks is why on earth does ICC need $100 mn admin fund, what is it that icc does that requires that sort of a figure, Manohar is a snake who will dump icc when he thinks his job is done, this impasse will not work for bcci or icc, BCCI should not be lording over cricket as if it their jahagir but ICC too needs to remember that bcci is its golden hen, one doesn't just try and kill and expect no backlash. Eventually this will hurt the smaller boards a lot more than the perpetrators of this palace coup ECB and CA, both will go scot free but WICB, ZCB and those other small boards may have to pay a heavy price, and frankly cricket will suffer because manohar wanted to settle scores with srinivasan.

 

[Napa]

You're not getting a penny of that. Not sure why some of you are fighting for this as if you're all on the BCCI's payroll. Worry about your own income.

How much of Ireland's or Afg's or even Pak's share are you getting?

 

[Bilal7]

How much of Ireland's or Afg's or even Pak's share are you getting?

I'm not, which is why I have nothing more than a mild interest in this issue.

 

[Chrish]

everyone will kneel down in the end and BCCI will have their way.. 10 page discussion for nothing.

 

[Junaids]

Under the new model, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa's Boards each get $132 million.

Yet compare these numbers:

CA pays Steve Smith $1.12 million
NZC pays Kane Williamson NZ$200,000
CSA pays AB De Villiers US$120,000.

Yet the three boards all get an equal share of the ICC pie.

And it gets worse.

Cricket Australia revealed today what they spend their money on:

22.5% on players
22.5% on cricket infrastructure and grassroots cricket
55% on themselves.

In other words, even the two boards which pay their players the most - India and Australia - blatantly squander most of their money on salaries, luxury travel and expenses for the administrators.

But if New Zealand, West Indies and South Africa receive so much from the ICC, yet pay their players so little, I dread to think what they are spending their existing ICC income on.

 

[Messiah]

Hahaha. This is comedy gold. Zim and WI boards are probably laughing at this comedy show while stuffing their pockets with bcci, icc money. Reading some of the posts, u wud think some of the posters are getting a share of the money. Some people have wayy too much free time to waste

 

[Hitman]

everyone will kneel down in the end and BCCI will have their way.. 10 page discussion for nothing.

Doesn't look like it this time.

 

[MenInG]

DUBAI: International Cricket Council (ICC) chairman Shashank Manohar has welcomed ICC board’s vote for a new financial model that will reverse a 2014 decision which effectively put India, England and Australia in control of the game’s finances and administration.

Under the new financial model and governance structure, the split of revenues from the ICC for the years 2016 to 2023 will be altered to address the imbalance currently favouring the three boards.

The measure was passed by 13 votes to one, the governing body said in a statement on Thursday after its meetings at its headquarters in Dubai.

The Indian cricket board (BCCI), according to local media, was the only one to oppose the new financial model, which would see their revenue share cut by almost half.

Based on current forecasts for revenues and costs, the BCCI would now receive $293 million across the eight-year cycle, down from the $570 million it would have received under the 2014 arrangement.

A revised constitution, which will allow the ICC to include additional full members in the future, was also approved by 12 votes to two. The decisions would have to be ratified at the ICC’s annual conference in June.

ICC chairman Shashank Manohar, who has been critical of the ‘Big Three’ model, welcomed the vote.

“This is another step forward for world cricket and I look forward to concluding the work at the Annual Conference,” former BCCI chief Manohar, who will step down in June due to personal reasons, said.

“I am confident we can provide a strong foundation for the sport to grow and improve globally in the future through the adoption of the revised financial model and governance structure.”

India, meanwhile, have yet to submit their squad for the upcoming Champions Trophy. The BCCI failed to deliver the squad info by the Tuesday midnight deadline and has not ruled out boycotting the tournament altogether.

The ICC board members were also briefed on the security situation in Pakistan following the visit of the ICC delegation to the final of the country’s Twenty20 league in March in Lahore.

“The feasibility of further matches in Pakistan involving a World XI is now being considered from a security and budget perspective,” the ICC said in a statement.


https://www.dawn.com/news/1329636/icc-chairman-welcomes-big-three-scrapping

 

[SL_Fan]

 

[SL_Fan]

So in other words BCCI wants to pocket all the money set aside for the associates. Poor form.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

So in other words BCCI wants to pocket all the money set aside for the associates. Poor form.

its worse when you consider that extra 100 million dollar offer is still on the table for them.

 

[SL_Fan]

Yeah I don't agree with the $293 mil but $400 mil I think is a fair offer. Demanding $570 mil is just flat out ridiculous.