Best first-class averages in Pakistan cricket

[Paradox]

We really need to stop predicting the future of these players.. No one knows if they'll come good, no one knows if they'll come bad either. We should wait and see.

 

[pakcricketfan]

We really need to stop predicting the future of these players.. No one knows if they'll come good, no one knows if they'll come bad either. We should wait and see.

exactly. We should just be patient, give these players proper chances and then give the verdict.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side

Whether or not he turns out to be the next MoYo or Hick is a case of waiting and see

Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )

 

[pakcricketfan]

First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side

Whether or not he turns out to be the next MoYo or Hick is a case of waiting and see

Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )

This.

 

[JeeraBlade]

First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side.

I don't know why this concept is so hard to grasp by some posters here. I wonder how they are doing in their 6th grade math class.

Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )

Totally agree. Earlier I did not even find this comment funny --- just plain stupid.

 

[Paradox]

First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side

Whether or not he turns out to be the next MoYo or Hick is a case of waiting and see

Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )

This.
Thanks for making a very valid point clear.

 

[Wassixpakistani]

First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side

Whether or not he turns out to be the next MoYo or Hick is a case of waiting and see

Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )

Just the thing I needed to end a little of discussion of mine with someone .

 

[LG]

Phew. Thanks for that post, GA. Was about to eat my hat before I read your comment. (although I don't have a hat ). Some of the comments are downright embarrassing to even read.

 

[PakPassionate]

Wow how can you predict that because last time I checked Fawad had an average of 54 in Tests and 42 in ODI. Btw, what is a successful batsman for you? Bradman?
With his great temperament I can only see Fawad succeed if he is given a decent run.

LOL 54 avg...but how many tests he played? )
bhai jab wo 20 tests kheel lay tab batana mujhay

 

[LG]

^^ And yet, you decided that he won't score in the international arena before he played 20 Tests....???

 

[iafzal]

LOL 54 avg...but how many tests he played? )
bhai jab wo 20 tests kheel lay tab batana mujhay

exactly so how you regard him a failure after 2 tests if he cannot be declared a success. You cannot have it both ways my man.

 

[Paradox]

Okay guys, time to update this thread..

 

[Paradox]

HIGHEST FIRST-CLASS BATTING AVERAGES AS OF OCTOBER 23, 2009

Criteria for listing:- Minimum of 20 FC games, Still eligible for national selection

Fawad Alam         58.97
Younis Khan        51.38
Umar Akmal         51.00
Mohammad Yousuf    50.76
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.72
Hasan Raza         50.40
Adnan Raza         46.63
Nasir Jamshed      46.03
Sarfraz Ahmed      45.94
Umar Amin          44.22
Khurram Manzoor    43.59
Saeed Bin Nasir    43.23
Azhar Ali          43.18
Imran Farhat       42.53
Salman Butt        41.92
Faisal Iqbal       40.18

None of the averages changed. I guess none of the players' games are done, so the averages have not been updated yet.

After Misbah's stunning knock in his current ongoing Quaid Trophy match, his average will increase quite a bit and he's expected to go leap to atleast 3rd or even 2nd place in that list.

 

[Paradox]

DBlock, are certain players, who haven't exactly 'announced' their retirement, but aren't expected to be back in the national team anytime soon, like Mohammad Wasim, Saleem Elahi, etc. allowed to be in the list?

Personally I don't think so.

 

[biophysics]

any updates on these stats, and bowling stats???

 

[Ali888]

there should be a separate list for no.3's and openers as it is unfair comparison otherwise

Guess naved yasin is a glaring omission right now

 

[Gollum]

Averaging 45 or more in FC is still a rare occurrence in Pakistan cricket. The guys having this stat and currently eligible to play should not be too far away from the National or A team at any point in time.

 

[Paradox]

Time for an update to this thread, guys..

HIGHEST FIRST-CLASS BATTING AVERAGES AS OF MAY 4, 2010

Criteria for listing:- Minimum of 20 FC games, Still eligible for national selection

Fawad Alam         56.29
Naved Yasin        54.05
Younis Khan        50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         49.40
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.43
Imran Fart         42.04
Umar Amin          42.00
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Azhar Ali          40.42

So very interesting, ALL the players in the list have had their average go DOWN from October last year, except Salman Butt, whose average increased just a bit.

Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf still in there because, well.. nobody really knows if they're eligible for selection or not.

 

[Ali Raja]

Pakistan's batting resources look thin for the future.
Fawad Alam, Umar Akmal and Umar Amin should form the core of the middle-order. Butt need an solid opener with him, maybe Azeem Ghumman. Most of the players should not be anywhere near the Test-team. Guys like Hasan Raza, Nasir Jamshed, Faisal Iqbal, Khalid Latif etc.

 

[Paradox]

Added to list: Mohammad Ayub, Naved Yasin, Asad Shafiq, Zeeshan Butt, Ali Azmat.

 

[Paradox]

Added: Zohaib Khan.

 

[Paradox]

Added: Aamer Sajjad.

 

[Paradox]

Added: Rameez Alam.

 

[Paradox]

Azeem Ghumman has a great average but can't make it into the list, he's only played 17 FC games.

 

[Paradox]

I think I'll cut off the last few names in the list, the list should only show batsmen with an average of 40+, to show the best of the best.

 

[Paradox]

HIGHEST FIRST-CLASS BOWLING AVERAGES AS OF MAY 4, 2010

Criteria: Minimum 20 FC games, eligible for national selection

Samiullah Khan    19.12 
Zulfiqar Babar    20.19
Mohammad Rameez   20.21
Shahid Nazir      21.11 
Sarfraz Ahmed     22.38 
Mohammad Aslam    22.50
Mohammad Aamer    22.61
Jaffar Nazir      23.02 
Fahad Masood      23.04
Mohammad Hussain  23.13 
Naved Arif        23.27 
Rao Iftikhar      24.06 
Rana Naved        24.11
Najaf Shah        24.15
Aizaz Cheema      24.17 
Mohammad Asif     24.30 
Sohail Khan       24.31
Tariq Haroon      25.25
Abdur Rauf        25.29 
Azharullah        25.79 
Abdur Rehman      26.04
Danish Kaneria    26.15 
Shoaib Akhtar     26.26 
Umar Gul          27.45 
Sohail Tanvir     27.65
Saeed Ajmal       27.87

 

[Paradox]

It's funny how Samiullah Khan (stats-wise) is supposedly the best bowler in Pakistan

 

[Paradox]

..

 

[Paradox]

Added: Abdur Rehman.

 

[Paradox]

Added: Zulfiqar Babar. Great average, is third on the list.

 

[Paradox]

Added: Mohammad Aslam, SLA bowler.

 

[Paradox]

Added: Mohammad Rameez, the U19 fast bowler.

 

[Paradox]

If anyone has any other additions to make to the list, please post them here

 

[Ali888]

glaring omission in your list

Mohammed Aamer 21 matches average of 22

only bowler to bowl a 5 wicket maiden

but excellent thread and stats otherwise

 

[Paradox]

Woops, sorry. Added Mohammad Aamer to the list.

 

[Ali888]

Time for an update to this thread, guys..

HIGHEST FIRST-CLASS BATTING AVERAGES AS OF MAY 4, 2010

Criteria for listing:- Minimum of 20 FC games, Still eligible for national selection

Fawad Alam         56.29
Naved Yasin        54.05
Younis Khan        50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         49.40
.
.
.
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
.
.
.
Umar Amin          42.00

So very interesting, ALL the players in the list have had their average go DOWN from October last year, except Salman Butt, whose average increased just a bit.

Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf still in there because, well.. nobody really knows if they're eligible for selection or not.

The top of that list should be our Test middle order/in contention

and then only other players in consideration should be young up and comers like Umar Amin

 

[Paradox]

The top of that list should be our Test middle order/in contention

and then only other players in consideration should be young up and comers like Umar Amin

I don't agree, I think having them all in one list is okay.

 

[Paradox]

So here is the list again for everyone:

Batting (as of 4 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Fawad Alam         56.29
Naved Yasin        54.05
Younis Khan        50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         49.40
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.43
Imran Fart         42.04
Umar Amin          42.00
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Azhar Ali          40.42

Bowling (as of 4 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Samiullah Khan    19.12 
Zulfiqar Babar    20.19
Mohammad Rameez   20.21
Shahid Nazir      21.11 
Sarfraz Ahmed     22.38 
Mohammad Aslam    22.50
Mohammad Aamer    22.61
Jaffar Nazir      23.02 
Fahad Masood      23.04
Mohammad Hussain  23.13 
Naved Arif        23.27 
Rao Iftikhar      24.06 
Rana Naved        24.11
Najaf Shah        24.15
Aizaz Cheema      24.17 
Mohammad Asif     24.30 
Sohail Khan       24.31
Tariq Haroon      25.25
Abdur Rauf        25.29 
Azharullah        25.79 
Abdur Rehman      26.04
Danish Kaneria    26.15 
Shoaib Akhtar     26.26 
Umar Gul          27.45 
Sohail Tanvir     27.65
Saeed Ajmal       27.87

 

[PakPassionate]

So here is the list again for everyone:

Batting (as of 4 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Fawad Alam         56.29
Naved Yasin        54.05
Younis Khan        50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         49.40
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.43
[COLOR=Red]Imran Fart         42.04[/COLOR]
Umar Amin          42.00
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Azhar Ali          40.42

Bowling (as of 4 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Samiullah Khan    19.12 
Zulfiqar Babar    20.19
Mohammad Rameez   20.21
Shahid Nazir      21.11 
Sarfraz Ahmed     22.38 
Mohammad Aslam    22.50
Mohammad Aamer    22.61
Jaffar Nazir      23.02 
Fahad Masood      23.04
Mohammad Hussain  23.13 
Naved Arif        23.27 
Rao Iftikhar      24.06 
Rana Naved        24.11
Najaf Shah        24.15
Aizaz Cheema      24.17 
Mohammad Asif     24.30 
Sohail Khan       24.31
Tariq Haroon      25.25
Abdur Rauf        25.29 
Azharullah        25.79 
Abdur Rehman      26.04
Danish Kaneria    26.15 
Shoaib Akhtar     26.26 
Umar Gul          27.45 
Sohail Tanvir     27.65
Saeed Ajmal       27.87

Imran Fart ) ) )

 

[Paradox]

That was irresistible, okay? Just as Random Aussie said. I love watching Imran Farhat play because he's a ticking bomb waiting to explode. )

 

[tdigi]

That was irresistible, okay? Just as Random Aussie said. I love watching Imran Farhat play because he's a ticking bomb waiting to explode. )

lol pun intentional.

 

[Alam_dar]

Thanks for the nice thread.

I am happy to see at least there are 2 players (Fawad and Naved Yasin) who are averaging better than our previous stars Younus and yousuf.

Hopefully both Fawad and Naved Yasin get full chances in International arena and prove themselves great assets for Pakistan.

And stats show that we should choose Sarfraz as Keeper in TESTS due to his batting abilities. May be he is a better batsman in Test format than in ODIs and T20 format.

A very good and interesting season is coming ahead for Pakistan Team. I am more worried about our Balling Abilities and our All Rounder abilities as compared to Batting line. We have good batsmen who are averaging better than previous stars, but we don't have enough of Bowlers who are so great as Wasim and Waqar were.

 

[Paradox]

Just a bump -

which of these batsmen/bowlers do you think should be picked in the squad for the Asia Cup and the England tours?

 

[Paradox]

Batting (as of 20 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Fawad Alam         56.29
Naved Yasin        54.05
Younis Khan        50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         49.40
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.43
Imran Fart         42.04
Umar Amin          42.00
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Azhar Ali          40.42

Bowling (as of 20 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Samiullah Khan    19.12 
Zulfiqar Babar    20.19
Mohammad Rameez   20.21
Shahid Nazir      21.11 
Sarfraz Ahmed     22.38 
Mohammad Aslam    22.50
Mohammad Aamer    22.61
Jaffar Nazir      23.02 
Fahad Masood      23.04
Mohammad Hussain  23.13 
Naved Arif        23.27 
Rao Iftikhar      24.06 
Rana Naved        24.11
Najaf Shah        24.15
Aizaz Cheema      24.17 
Mohammad Asif     24.30 
Sohail Khan       24.31
Tariq Haroon      25.25
Abdur Rauf        25.29 
Azharullah        25.79 
Abdur Rehman      26.04
Danish Kaneria    26.15 
Shoaib Akhtar     26.26 
Umar Gul          27.45 
Sohail Tanvir     27.65
Saeed Ajmal       27.87

 

[AZ]

Umar Amin
Shahzaib Hasan
Raza Hasan

and Talha perhaps.

 

[Paradox]

If you find any players who should be in the list, please do post them here and they will be added.

 

[*sallu*]

If you find any players who should be in the list, please do post them here and they will be added.

Ghumman averages close to 49 if im not mistaken
How come hes not there?

 

[Paradox]

Maybe because he hasn't played the minimum amount of first-class games (20) to be in the criteria?

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

where is Imran Khan?

 

[dblock]

Does this require much of an update?

Thank Paradox for keeping this going. I think the figures might change appreciably after this summer.

Certainly this highlight the batting frailties in Pakistan.

 

[iafzal]

where is Imran Khan?

active players playing FC or international cricket

 

[Friend786]

Averages around 42, then again he is an opener.

Only other player who I could find with a 50+ average was Umar Akmal, but perhaps it's a bit early to include him as he doesn't even have 2000 FC runs yet.

now umar akmal has 2800+ first class runs

 

[adzzy786]

This explain the quality and standard of the Pakistan domestic cricket where Fawad Alam is on the top of the list. This explain the bowling quality of our domestic cricket as well as the quality of the wickets which we use in our country.

This is one of the reason we are not able to find any quality batsman for the last 10-15 years.

Overall the whole thing is pathetic and disappointing.

Agree

 

[sully3]

Lets be honest FC averages dnt mean anything due to the phatetic standard of the our domestic cricket.
Next time we fall across a good middle order batsman would be by chance like akmal.
God help us umar amin comes good!

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

besides the fact that Pakistan has the poorest and worst domestic cricket system , Fawad Alam should be given some more chances, when Players like Misbah, FAISAL iqbal and Imran Farhat got plenty of chances without even performing why not fawad alam, He probably doesnt have the best of techniques but he has courage

 

[Paradox]

Thank Paradox for keeping this going. I think the figures might change appreciably after this summer.

You're welcome.

Will update this after every Test or two that we play this summer.

I'll put the names of the batsmen and bowlers who ARE in the squad for this summer's Tests in bold, to highlight it.

 

[pakcricketfan]

What about Wahab Riyaz and Tanveer Ahmed?

 

[Paradox]

Hopefully I'll get this list (both batting and bowling) updated tomorrow after the end of the Second Test.. the next update after that will be at the end of the last Test vs England, I guess. Better that way.

 

[Paradox]

Time for an update

 

[Paradox]

Batting (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Fawad Alam         55.98
Naved Yasin        54.05
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Younis Khan        50.33
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         48.76
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.38
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Imran Farhat       41.90
Azhar Ali          40.10
Umar Amin          39.73

 

[Paradox]

So Misbah overtakes YK at 3rd place, Umar Amin's FC averages falls into the 30's as a result of some half-decent performances against Australia (it was 42 before IIRC).

 

[Awesome_Username]

Batting (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Fawad Alam         55.98
Naved Yasin        54.05
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Younis Khan        50.33
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         48.76
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.38
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Imran Farhat       41.90
Azhar Ali          40.10
Umar Amin          39.73

How come we've never seen this Naved Yasin guy come into contention?

 

[Kriketer]

No surprise with Hasan Raza leading among the tops. Since how long he has been the top scorer each year in our domestic....like 10-15?

He's easily the most harshly treated player in domestic by pcb circus.

 

[Paradox]

Bowling (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Samiullah Khan    19.12 
Zulfiqar Babar    20.19
Mohammad Rameez   20.21
Shahid Nazir      21.11 
Mohammad Aamer    22.06
Sarfraz Ahmed     22.38 
Mohammad Aslam    22.50
Jaffar Nazir      23.02 
Fahad Masood      23.04
Mohammad Hussain  23.13 
Naved Arif        23.27 
Rao Iftikhar      24.12
Aizaz Cheema      23.71
Najaf Shah        24.15
Mohammad Asif     24.26 
Sohail Khan       24.31
Rana Naved        24.39
Tariq Haroon      25.25
Abdur Rauf        25.29 
Azharullah        25.79 
Abdur Rehman      26.25
Shoaib Akhtar     26.26 
Danish Kaneria    26.26
Umar Gul          27.42
Sohail Tanvir     27.65
Anwar Ali         27.71
Saeed Ajmal       27.87

Added to list: Anwar Ali.

Mohammad Aamer's superb bowling against Australia takes him from 7th up to 5th in the bowling rankings.

Rana Naved falls from 12th to 17th!

Aizaz Cheema jumps from 14th to 13th.

 

[Paradox]

How come we've never seen this Naved Yasin guy come into contention?

He has! He's always been announced in our probables for each series/tournament, but he never has made it into the final squad of 15/17.

 

[Paradox]

So here are the two lists for everyone to see:

Batting (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Fawad Alam         55.98
Naved Yasin        54.05
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Younis Khan        50.33
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         48.76
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.38
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Imran Farhat       41.90
Azhar Ali          40.10
Umar Amin          39.73

Bowling (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Samiullah Khan    19.12 
Zulfiqar Babar    20.19
Mohammad Rameez   20.21
Shahid Nazir      21.11 
Mohammad Aamer    22.06
Sarfraz Ahmed     22.38 
Mohammad Aslam    22.50
Jaffar Nazir      23.02 
Fahad Masood      23.04
Mohammad Hussain  23.13 
Naved Arif        23.27 
Rao Iftikhar      24.12
Aizaz Cheema      23.71
Najaf Shah        24.15
Mohammad Asif     24.26 
Sohail Khan       24.31
Rana Naved        24.39
Tariq Haroon      25.25
Abdur Rauf        25.29 
Azharullah        25.79 
Abdur Rehman      26.25
Shoaib Akhtar     26.26 
Danish Kaneria    26.26
Umar Gul          27.42
Sohail Tanvir     27.65
Anwar Ali         27.71
Saeed Ajmal       27.87

 

[imshally81]

i just noticed that... most of batsman from karachi region.....

 

[T20_Cricket]

Aamer Sajjad is a pure talent.

 

[asifp]

Batting (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)

Fawad Alam         55.98
Naved Yasin        54.05
Misbah-ul-Haq      50.35
Younis Khan        50.33
Mohammad Yousuf    49.76
Hasan Raza         49.41
Umar Akmal         48.76
Nasir Jamshed      44.51
Asad Shafiq        43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed      43.34
Aamer Sajjad       43.05
Adnan Raza         42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir    42.69
Khurram Manzoor    42.61
Mohammad Ayub      42.57
Ali Azmat          42.55
Salman Butt        42.38
Zohaib Khan        42.00
Imran Farhat       41.90
Azhar Ali          40.10
Umar Amin          39.73

How do we ever expect to do well. The guys at the top of this list are not in the team yet the bottom four are in the playing XI.

Only if Fawad Alam and Hasan Raza every got the chances that jokers like Butt and Farhat have gone. A guy with an average of 50+ gets 10 chances yet constant failures like Farhat get 30+ chances.

Connections over Talent

 

[Paradox]

Will update this after 4st Test vs England

 

[proud_pakistani]

I never understood why Pakistan keeps selecting guys who are extremely young and even barely have any experience in Pakistans domestic circuit....rather than playing guys like Umar Amin why not go to people who are experienced and have done well in the domestic circuit like Hasan Raza or Shahid Yousuf...

 

[pakcricketfan]

I don't see Tanvir Ahmed and Wahab Riaz in the list. Both are in the test squad!
Paradox, can you please add their averages too?? Also Tabish Khan.

 

[asifp]

the PCB website is down at the moment. Butt probably forget to pay the bills

 

[asifp]

by the way Azhar Ali had 450 runs in the QA trophy at an average of 29.66 which included one 153, take that out and he got 300 runs in the other 16 innings. How did he make the tem again?

Umar Amin had 512 at an average of 36.57 hardly impressive, take our his top score and he had like 350 odd runs in 15 innings.

You can have all the syle but if you lack the substance you will flop as we are seeing.

 

[Shakil_pkcricket]

Its astonishing to see the batting average of Sarfaraz Ahmed.....43.....yet Kamran Akmal is considered the best with the bat...

 

[asifp]

Its astonishing to see the batting average of Sarfaraz Ahmed.....43.....yet Kamran Akmal is considered the best with the bat...

wait till the brigade that will come and say FC is not any indicator.

Its the best indicator we got!!!


I hate when someone says he does not look like Test player. By that defintion Miandad would never have played cricket for Pakistan

 

[Paradox]

Maybe because Sarfraz completely forgets how to bat when he's out there for Pakistan?

 

[asifp]

Maybe because Sarfraz completely forgets how to bat when he's out there for Pakistan?

and one Test match can tell you that? Maybe he was nervous. Maybe being in a team that was mentally crushed did not help.

Why cant he ever had a bad day, cause everytime Akmal flops its always is a bad day.

 

[Paradox]

Or you can see all the ODIs and T20s he's batted in too.

 

[rabi_sultan]

i know sarfraz ahmed has a high batting average but thats due to a high number of NO. Is it possible to generate a list with either that and #inngs included or somehow factored in?