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We really need to stop predicting the future of these players.. No one knows if they'll come good, no one knows if they'll come bad either. We should wait and see.
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Paradox said:We really need to stop predicting the future of these players.. No one knows if they'll come good, no one knows if they'll come bad either. We should wait and see.
Geordie Ahmed said:First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side
Whether or not he turns out to be the next MoYo or Hick is a case of waiting and see
Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )
I don't know why this concept is so hard to grasp by some posters here. I wonder how they are doing in their 6th grade math class.Geordie Ahmed said:First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side.
Geordie Ahmed said:Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )
Geordie Ahmed said:First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side
Whether or not he turns out to be the next MoYo or Hick is a case of waiting and see
Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )
Geordie Ahmed said:First class stats are not always an indicator of how you will fare in International cricket BUT surely the idea is that you pick your best performing domestic players - Fawad Alam tops the list for a good reason, he has consistently scored runs and as a result deserves an extended run in the side
Whether or not he turns out to be the next MoYo or Hick is a case of waiting and see
Also the guy that suggested Fawad Alam is only topping the list because there are no good bowlers ) ) ) )
LOL 54 avg...but how many tests he played? )iafzal said:Wow how can you predict that because last time I checked Fawad had an average of 54 in Tests and 42 in ODI. Btw, what is a successful batsman for you? Bradman?
With his great temperament I can only see Fawad succeed if he is given a decent run.
exactly so how you regard him a failure after 2 tests if he cannot be declared a success. You cannot have it both ways my man.PakPassionate said:LOL 54 avg...but how many tests he played? )
bhai jab wo 20 tests kheel lay tab batana mujhay
Fawad Alam 58.97
Younis Khan 51.38
Umar Akmal 51.00
Mohammad Yousuf 50.76
Misbah-ul-Haq 50.72
Hasan Raza 50.40
Adnan Raza 46.63
Nasir Jamshed 46.03
Sarfraz Ahmed 45.94
Umar Amin 44.22
Khurram Manzoor 43.59
Saeed Bin Nasir 43.23
Azhar Ali 43.18
Imran Farhat 42.53
Salman Butt 41.92
Faisal Iqbal 40.18
Fawad Alam 56.29
Naved Yasin 54.05
Younis Khan 50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35
Mohammad Yousuf 49.76
Hasan Raza 49.41
Umar Akmal 49.40
Nasir Jamshed 44.51
Asad Shafiq 43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34
Aamer Sajjad 43.05
Adnan Raza 42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69
Khurram Manzoor 42.61
Mohammad Ayub 42.57
Ali Azmat 42.55
Salman Butt 42.43
Imran Fart 42.04
Umar Amin 42.00
Zohaib Khan 42.00
Azhar Ali 40.42
Samiullah Khan 19.12
Zulfiqar Babar 20.19
Mohammad Rameez 20.21
Shahid Nazir 21.11
Sarfraz Ahmed 22.38
Mohammad Aslam 22.50
Mohammad Aamer 22.61
Jaffar Nazir 23.02
Fahad Masood 23.04
Mohammad Hussain 23.13
Naved Arif 23.27
Rao Iftikhar 24.06
Rana Naved 24.11
Najaf Shah 24.15
Aizaz Cheema 24.17
Mohammad Asif 24.30
Sohail Khan 24.31
Tariq Haroon 25.25
Abdur Rauf 25.29
Azharullah 25.79
Abdur Rehman 26.04
Danish Kaneria 26.15
Shoaib Akhtar 26.26
Umar Gul 27.45
Sohail Tanvir 27.65
Saeed Ajmal 27.87
Paradox said:Time for an update to this thread, guys..
HIGHEST FIRST-CLASS BATTING AVERAGES AS OF MAY 4, 2010
Criteria for listing:- Minimum of 20 FC games, Still eligible for national selection
HTML:Fawad Alam 56.29 Naved Yasin 54.05 Younis Khan 50.55 Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35 Mohammad Yousuf 49.76 Hasan Raza 49.41 Umar Akmal 49.40 . . . Nasir Jamshed 44.51 . . . Umar Amin 42.00
So very interesting, ALL the players in the list have had their average go DOWN from October last year, except Salman Butt, whose average increased just a bit.
Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf still in there because, well.. nobody really knows if they're eligible for selection or not.
Ali888 said:The top of that list should be our Test middle order/in contention
and then only other players in consideration should be young up and comers like Umar Amin
Fawad Alam 56.29
Naved Yasin 54.05
Younis Khan 50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35
Mohammad Yousuf 49.76
Hasan Raza 49.41
Umar Akmal 49.40
Nasir Jamshed 44.51
Asad Shafiq 43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34
Aamer Sajjad 43.05
Adnan Raza 42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69
Khurram Manzoor 42.61
Mohammad Ayub 42.57
Ali Azmat 42.55
Salman Butt 42.43
Imran Fart 42.04
Umar Amin 42.00
Zohaib Khan 42.00
Azhar Ali 40.42
Samiullah Khan 19.12
Zulfiqar Babar 20.19
Mohammad Rameez 20.21
Shahid Nazir 21.11
Sarfraz Ahmed 22.38
Mohammad Aslam 22.50
Mohammad Aamer 22.61
Jaffar Nazir 23.02
Fahad Masood 23.04
Mohammad Hussain 23.13
Naved Arif 23.27
Rao Iftikhar 24.06
Rana Naved 24.11
Najaf Shah 24.15
Aizaz Cheema 24.17
Mohammad Asif 24.30
Sohail Khan 24.31
Tariq Haroon 25.25
Abdur Rauf 25.29
Azharullah 25.79
Abdur Rehman 26.04
Danish Kaneria 26.15
Shoaib Akhtar 26.26
Umar Gul 27.45
Sohail Tanvir 27.65
Saeed Ajmal 27.87
Imran Fart ) ) )Paradox said:So here is the list again for everyone:
Batting (as of 4 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)
HTML:Fawad Alam 56.29 Naved Yasin 54.05 Younis Khan 50.55 Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35 Mohammad Yousuf 49.76 Hasan Raza 49.41 Umar Akmal 49.40 Nasir Jamshed 44.51 Asad Shafiq 43.70 Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34 Aamer Sajjad 43.05 Adnan Raza 42.92 Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69 Khurram Manzoor 42.61 Mohammad Ayub 42.57 Ali Azmat 42.55 Salman Butt 42.43 [COLOR=Red]Imran Fart 42.04[/COLOR] Umar Amin 42.00 Zohaib Khan 42.00 Azhar Ali 40.42
Bowling (as of 4 May, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)
HTML:Samiullah Khan 19.12 Zulfiqar Babar 20.19 Mohammad Rameez 20.21 Shahid Nazir 21.11 Sarfraz Ahmed 22.38 Mohammad Aslam 22.50 Mohammad Aamer 22.61 Jaffar Nazir 23.02 Fahad Masood 23.04 Mohammad Hussain 23.13 Naved Arif 23.27 Rao Iftikhar 24.06 Rana Naved 24.11 Najaf Shah 24.15 Aizaz Cheema 24.17 Mohammad Asif 24.30 Sohail Khan 24.31 Tariq Haroon 25.25 Abdur Rauf 25.29 Azharullah 25.79 Abdur Rehman 26.04 Danish Kaneria 26.15 Shoaib Akhtar 26.26 Umar Gul 27.45 Sohail Tanvir 27.65 Saeed Ajmal 27.87
lol pun intentional.Paradox said:That was irresistible, okay? Just as Random Aussie said. I love watching Imran Farhat play because he's a ticking bomb waiting to explode. )
Fawad Alam 56.29
Naved Yasin 54.05
Younis Khan 50.55
Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35
Mohammad Yousuf 49.76
Hasan Raza 49.41
Umar Akmal 49.40
Nasir Jamshed 44.51
Asad Shafiq 43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34
Aamer Sajjad 43.05
Adnan Raza 42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69
Khurram Manzoor 42.61
Mohammad Ayub 42.57
Ali Azmat 42.55
Salman Butt 42.43
Imran Fart 42.04
Umar Amin 42.00
Zohaib Khan 42.00
Azhar Ali 40.42
Samiullah Khan 19.12
Zulfiqar Babar 20.19
Mohammad Rameez 20.21
Shahid Nazir 21.11
Sarfraz Ahmed 22.38
Mohammad Aslam 22.50
Mohammad Aamer 22.61
Jaffar Nazir 23.02
Fahad Masood 23.04
Mohammad Hussain 23.13
Naved Arif 23.27
Rao Iftikhar 24.06
Rana Naved 24.11
Najaf Shah 24.15
Aizaz Cheema 24.17
Mohammad Asif 24.30
Sohail Khan 24.31
Tariq Haroon 25.25
Abdur Rauf 25.29
Azharullah 25.79
Abdur Rehman 26.04
Danish Kaneria 26.15
Shoaib Akhtar 26.26
Umar Gul 27.45
Sohail Tanvir 27.65
Saeed Ajmal 27.87
Paradox said:If you find any players who should be in the list, please do post them here and they will be added.
active players playing FC or international cricketPerfectionPersonified said:where is Imran Khan?
dblock said:Averages around 42, then again he is an opener.
Only other player who I could find with a 50+ average was Umar Akmal, but perhaps it's a bit early to include him as he doesn't even have 2000 FC runs yet.
zaid65 said:This explain the quality and standard of the Pakistan domestic cricket where Fawad Alam is on the top of the list. This explain the bowling quality of our domestic cricket as well as the quality of the wickets which we use in our country.
This is one of the reason we are not able to find any quality batsman for the last 10-15 years.
Overall the whole thing is pathetic and disappointing.
dblock said:Thank Paradox for keeping this going. I think the figures might change appreciably after this summer.
Fawad Alam 55.98
Naved Yasin 54.05
Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35
Younis Khan 50.33
Mohammad Yousuf 49.76
Hasan Raza 49.41
Umar Akmal 48.76
Nasir Jamshed 44.51
Asad Shafiq 43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34
Aamer Sajjad 43.05
Adnan Raza 42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69
Khurram Manzoor 42.61
Mohammad Ayub 42.57
Ali Azmat 42.55
Salman Butt 42.38
Zohaib Khan 42.00
Imran Farhat 41.90
Azhar Ali 40.10
Umar Amin 39.73
Batting (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)
HTML:Fawad Alam 55.98 Naved Yasin 54.05 Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35 Younis Khan 50.33 Mohammad Yousuf 49.76 Hasan Raza 49.41 Umar Akmal 48.76 Nasir Jamshed 44.51 Asad Shafiq 43.70 Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34 Aamer Sajjad 43.05 Adnan Raza 42.92 Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69 Khurram Manzoor 42.61 Mohammad Ayub 42.57 Ali Azmat 42.55 Salman Butt 42.38 Zohaib Khan 42.00 Imran Farhat 41.90 Azhar Ali 40.10 Umar Amin 39.73
Samiullah Khan 19.12
Zulfiqar Babar 20.19
Mohammad Rameez 20.21
Shahid Nazir 21.11
Mohammad Aamer 22.06
Sarfraz Ahmed 22.38
Mohammad Aslam 22.50
Jaffar Nazir 23.02
Fahad Masood 23.04
Mohammad Hussain 23.13
Naved Arif 23.27
Rao Iftikhar 24.12
Aizaz Cheema 23.71
Najaf Shah 24.15
Mohammad Asif 24.26
Sohail Khan 24.31
Rana Naved 24.39
Tariq Haroon 25.25
Abdur Rauf 25.29
Azharullah 25.79
Abdur Rehman 26.25
Shoaib Akhtar 26.26
Danish Kaneria 26.26
Umar Gul 27.42
Sohail Tanvir 27.65
Anwar Ali 27.71
Saeed Ajmal 27.87
How come we've never seen this Naved Yasin guy come into contention?
Fawad Alam 55.98
Naved Yasin 54.05
Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35
Younis Khan 50.33
Mohammad Yousuf 49.76
Hasan Raza 49.41
Umar Akmal 48.76
Nasir Jamshed 44.51
Asad Shafiq 43.70
Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34
Aamer Sajjad 43.05
Adnan Raza 42.92
Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69
Khurram Manzoor 42.61
Mohammad Ayub 42.57
Ali Azmat 42.55
Salman Butt 42.38
Zohaib Khan 42.00
Imran Farhat 41.90
Azhar Ali 40.10
Umar Amin 39.73
Samiullah Khan 19.12
Zulfiqar Babar 20.19
Mohammad Rameez 20.21
Shahid Nazir 21.11
Mohammad Aamer 22.06
Sarfraz Ahmed 22.38
Mohammad Aslam 22.50
Jaffar Nazir 23.02
Fahad Masood 23.04
Mohammad Hussain 23.13
Naved Arif 23.27
Rao Iftikhar 24.12
Aizaz Cheema 23.71
Najaf Shah 24.15
Mohammad Asif 24.26
Sohail Khan 24.31
Rana Naved 24.39
Tariq Haroon 25.25
Abdur Rauf 25.29
Azharullah 25.79
Abdur Rehman 26.25
Shoaib Akhtar 26.26
Danish Kaneria 26.26
Umar Gul 27.42
Sohail Tanvir 27.65
Anwar Ali 27.71
Saeed Ajmal 27.87
Batting (as of 26th July after 2nd Test vs Australia, criteria: 20 FC games, eligible for national selection)
HTML:Fawad Alam 55.98 Naved Yasin 54.05 Misbah-ul-Haq 50.35 Younis Khan 50.33 Mohammad Yousuf 49.76 Hasan Raza 49.41 Umar Akmal 48.76 Nasir Jamshed 44.51 Asad Shafiq 43.70 Sarfraz Ahmed 43.34 Aamer Sajjad 43.05 Adnan Raza 42.92 Saeed Bin Nasir 42.69 Khurram Manzoor 42.61 Mohammad Ayub 42.57 Ali Azmat 42.55 Salman Butt 42.38 Zohaib Khan 42.00 Imran Farhat 41.90 Azhar Ali 40.10 Umar Amin 39.73
Its astonishing to see the batting average of Sarfaraz Ahmed.....43.....yet Kamran Akmal is considered the best with the bat...
Maybe because Sarfraz completely forgets how to bat when he's out there for Pakistan?