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BlackCaps abandon tour to Pakistan following a New Zealand government security alert

This is a country which locks down on a single covid case. Ofcourse any threat it will be exxagerated by them but it doesnt mean there wasnt any.
 
The public needs to know this specific threat otherwise the NZ government’s integrity will take a hit. The public should know what changed in the last 12 hours.
 
Let's see, let the details come out, too early to say that Pakistan are back to 2009.

I agree it would be ignorance to say that. Teams like Aus, NZ and Eng might be the countries can take a back seat as they have some sort or similar security experts but, rest of the teams I expect to keep touring without much issues. Also we will see foreign players playing in PSL as well.
 
This is not sport but about geo politics

The west will come down hard on pakistan by taking these sorts of measures , red lists , sanctions .

Especially since pakistan is close to China, pakistan will be in the enemy camp according to the west .

So expect the worse In future , pakistan will be sidelined like iran since usa has no use
 
People are bashing pakistan and pakistan government without knowing what the actual security threat was. Pakistan had provided kiwis with presidential security , their govt got some alert from somewhere which we are unaware of yet and still some of us find this enough to criticize the government.

And people are bashing the NZ cricket team and board for putting players safety first amongst Govt level security threat intel. None of us know yet, so can we wait for the facts on all sides?
 
This is not sport but about geo politics

The west will come down hard on pakistan by taking these sorts of measures , red lists , sanctions .

Especially since pakistan is close to China, pakistan will be in the enemy camp according to the west .

So expect the worse In future , pakistan will be sidelined like iran since usa has no use

Truth.
 
Is that a normal procedure or was there some credible reports of a bomb?..

In that case man oh man, how can you expect NZ to continue after such a threat..

What is wrong with you guys, If I am being told there is a security threat in my house, I'm gonna start checking

Doesn't meant it's actually real does it
 
And people are bashing the NZ cricket team and board for putting players safety first amongst Govt level security threat intel. None of us know yet, so can we wait for the facts on all sides?

Well can you blame them looking at the damage this has caused? maybe the nz govt should let everyone in on the secret first before pulling out gung ho like this
 
This is a country which locks down on a single covid case. Ofcourse any threat it will be exxagerated by them but it doesnt mean there wasnt any.
This.

Auckland has been in lockdown for 5 weeks... Everywhere else in NZ was in level 3/4 for several weeks despite there not being any cases in those regions.

We go hard and fast when it comes to threats.
 
What is wrong with you guys, If I am being told there is a security threat in my house, I'm gonna start checking

Doesn't meant it's actually real does it

Cowards. They lock themselves down on a single covid case
 
I think this is the time for the people of Pakistan to unite, and stop bashing it's own people.


Pakistan cricket will not collapse if they do not tour NZ or any other nation that refuses to tour Pakistan, without proper evidence.

Stand up for yourselves and have faith in the Almighty.

Absolutely I agree with you, abandon all tours to Nz in future sighting christchurch terrorists attack.
 
Agree with [MENTION=147774]unemployedgm[/MENTION]. If there is such an imminent threat why isn't it being shared with Pakistan so we can protect our general public and the cricket team?
 
Absolutely I agree with you, abandon all tours to Nz in future sighting christchurch terrorists attack.

To match the theatrics of NZ correctly, Pak should abandon after taking the field but before bowling the first ball.
 
Absolutely horrendous to think how people think NZ are the epitome of Spirit of Cricket.

Would be a big financial loss for PCB here as well.

NZ's security consultants couldn't stop a horrifying attack on a mosque where so many people died which was carried out by someone who wasn't even from NZ.

On the other hand, random guys are allowed to invade the pitch posing as cricketers again and again which is for some reason thought to be funny.

Pak should strengthen their cricket relations with SA, Ban, WI and even England(more English people are familiar with Pak than NZ).

And the last but not least, the pathetic government has failed in probably every sector. Things like this were always on the cards.
 
Absolutely horrendous to think how people think NZ are the epitome of Spirit of Cricket.

Would be a big financial loss for PCB here as well.

NZ's security consultants couldn't stop a horrifying attack on a mosque where so many people died which was carried out by someone who wasn't even from NZ.

On the other hand, random guys are allowed to invade the pitch posing as cricketers again and again which is for some reason thought to be funny.

Pak should strengthen their cricket relations with SA, Ban, WI and even England(more English people are familiar with Pak than NZ).

And the last but not least, the pathetic government has failed in probably every sector. Things like this were always on the cards.
 
This.

Auckland has been in lockdown for 5 weeks... Everywhere else in NZ was in level 3/4 for several weeks despite there not being any cases in those regions.

We go hard and fast when it comes to threats.

Yeah right. That was why they were not able to counter the mosque attack and were unaware of that threat or that time they did not take that threat seriously ?
 
As per news NZ security experts werent able to share single concrete information to Pak security agencies. So if they know something only NZ players lives are of value? None in Pak?
 
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NZ cricket has reason to be confident of that source. Should they believe you some random poster on Pakistan Passion forum instead? lol
Then why did they come to the country in the first place? The article was posted a month ago.
 
Agree with [MENTION=147774]unemployedgm[/MENTION]. If there is such an imminent threat why isn't it being shared with Pakistan so we can protect our general public and the cricket team?

Perhaps it's not quite that simply. Again, none of us know the specifics yet.
 
Perhaps it's not quite that simply. Again, none of us know the specifics yet.
They still should have shared the matter with the PCB.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy day it has been! Feel so sorry for the fans and our players. Walking out of the tour by taking a unilateral approach on a security threat is very frustrating. Especially when it’s not shared!! Which world is NZ living in??NZ will hear us at ICC.</p>— Ramiz Raja (@iramizraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja/status/1438829120364978183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Then why did they come to the country in the first place? The article was posted a month ago.

Clearly something happened today, and if it was to do with possible threats against the NZ team, that might have been the association, but I'm not claiming to know for sure, because unlike others here, I don't mind saying I don't know.

Are you suggesting NZ cricket planned this all in advance to start the tour and pull out the day of the first match?
 
They still should have shared the matter with the PCB.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy day it has been! Feel so sorry for the fans and our players. Walking out of the tour by taking a unilateral approach on a security threat is very frustrating. Especially when it’s not shared!! Which world is NZ living in??NZ will hear us at ICC.</p>— Ramiz Raja (@iramizraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja/status/1438829120364978183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What will the ICC do?

They couldn’t care less if we are completely destroyed as a cricket nation
 
Must be a real threat otherwise NZ would not have travelled so far just for the matches to be cancelled. NZ Cricket is not that wealthy that they can afford to waste money.
 
Feel sorry for Pak fans.

They should have not visited the country in first place instead of this last minute cancellation.
 
They still should have shared the matter with the PCB.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy day it has been! Feel so sorry for the fans and our players. Walking out of the tour by taking a unilateral approach on a security threat is very frustrating. Especially when it’s not shared!! Which world is NZ living in??NZ will hear us at ICC.</p>— Ramiz Raja (@iramizraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja/status/1438829120364978183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Their source is apparently 5 eyes.
 
Must be a real threat otherwise NZ would not have travelled so far just for the matches to be cancelled. NZ Cricket is not that wealthy that they can afford to waste money.

And what is the threat? They are not even sharing it. Pathetic from New Zealand.
 
Clearly something happened today, and if it was to do with possible threats against the NZ team, that might have been the association, but I'm not claiming to know for sure, because unlike others here, I don't mind saying I don't know.

Are you suggesting NZ cricket planned this all in advance to start the tour and pull out the day of the first match?
All I'm saying is that if the threats being made are so significant that they felt the need to abandon the tour immediately then that information needs to be shared with Pakistan and the PCB.

The PCB has worked hard for 10+ years to bring international cricket back in the country and this decision has sent us right back to square one.
 
Good response from Rameez. Fortunately, we do not have compromised leaders anymore. IK will not take lightly to this. Expecting a stern response.
 
If NZ haven't shared any info then I don't know what the hell is happening, tbh.
 
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Amazes me so many here are acting like there's no reason for the overseas teams to be worried in the slightest tour Pakistan. As if there wasn't a bombing outside the New Zealand team hotel in 2002, or the that the attack on SL players never happened in 2009. People are wondering why on earth the NZ cricket would be worried at all fresh off the back of a security from their own Govt?

C'mon Guys - these are humans lives, and this is a game of cricket. Where is the context here?
 
Brilliant response by rameez. Much needed. Heard that NZL called off the tour coz of a threat alert issued by the british high commission.
 
They still should have shared the matter with the PCB.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy day it has been! Feel so sorry for the fans and our players. Walking out of the tour by taking a unilateral approach on a security threat is very frustrating. Especially when it’s not shared!! Which world is NZ living in??NZ will hear us at ICC.</p>— Ramiz Raja (@iramizraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja/status/1438829120364978183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

As mentioned not a single concrete fact shared.

As a fan or cricket I want to see cricket however, I will happily accept if Pak doesnt tour NZ in coming years i am happy to see no Pak cricket then cricket with countries which embarrass you and make the decision just before the toss to maximize the impact.

So as a fan I am okay even if Pak cricket has to go into exile. If you want Pak to tour then tour Pak when it your turn, if not then fair play and no one should blame Pak as well for not touring.

PS; nothing wrong emotional here but, you deal politics with politics. Pak cricket team has no obligation to earn money for other boards if they are not willing to reply the same courtesy and that too without anything credible
 
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If NZ haven't shared any info then I don't know what the hell is happening, tbh.

No. He should have been even more stern. You don’t leave last minute and without sharing any information. Seems like only their lives are important.
 
They still should have shared the matter with the PCB.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy day it has been! Feel so sorry for the fans and our players. Walking out of the tour by taking a unilateral approach on a security threat is very frustrating. Especially when it’s not shared!! Which world is NZ living in??NZ will hear us at ICC.</p>— Ramiz Raja (@iramizraja) <a href="https://twitter.com/iramizraja/status/1438829120364978183?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good response from PCB. Had Sethi/Zaka was there they would apologize to NZC board.
 
Is that a normal procedure or was there some credible reports of a bomb?..

In that case man oh man, how can you expect NZ to continue after such a threat..

Mate they check my car for a bomb when I go to the mall. Shall I leave the country
 
As mentioned not a single concrete fact shared.

As a fan or cricket I want to see cricket however, I will happily accept if Pak doesnt tour NZ in coming years i am happy to see no Pak cricket then cricket with countries which embarrass you and make the decision just before the toss to maximize the impact.

So as a fan I am okay even if Pak cricket has to go into exile. If you want Pak to tour then tour Pak when it your turn, if not then fair play and no one should blame Pak as well for not touring.

Agree with this. I hope we don’t tour them next time and even when we do leave without any play.
 
All I'm saying is that if the threats being made are so significant that they felt the need to abandon the tour immediately then that information needs to be shared with Pakistan and the PCB.

The PCB has worked hard for 10+ years to bring international cricket back in the country and this decision has sent us right back to square one.

Once again, none of us are security experts. It's only been a matter of hours. Maybe they will disclose at some time, and maybe they do not believe there is a threat on Pakistan civilians. Can we take a breath and wait for some facts?
 
Inshallah when Pak Cricket is ever strong we will remember NZ, England and others who let us down. I am not talking about India, not playing them is due to politics.
 
Mate they check my car for a bomb when I go to the mall. Shall I leave the country

I'm not trying to be smart here, just honest. If my car had to be checked for bombs when I went shopping, I might very well consider living elsewhere. Many do for those reasons, I know some of them.
 
Since England players pulled out from IPL, NZ players will replace them for pulling out Pakistan tour. Great piece of masterwork by BCCI.
NZC is losing money by pulling out of this series.
 
As mentioned not a single concrete fact shared.

As a fan or cricket I want to see cricket however, I will happily accept if Pak doesnt tour NZ in coming years i am happy to see no Pak cricket then cricket with countries which embarrass you and make the decision just before the toss to maximize the impact.

So as a fan I am okay even if Pak cricket has to go into exile. If you want Pak to tour then tour Pak when it your turn, if not then fair play and no one should blame Pak as well for not touring.

PS; nothing wrong emotional here but, you deal politics with politics. Pak cricket team has no obligation to earn money for other boards if they are not willing to reply the same courtesy and that too without anything credible

This. Our team is mediocre anyways and PSL has become a big thing. We can actually afford to take a hit now.
 
NZC is losing money by pulling out of this series.

Nothing in comparison to home board. Just before the toss (Imagine). Other than Broadcasting for Nz maybe, nothing financially worth even looking twice is involved.
 
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If I was evil I would wish something really bad to happen to NZ team in their own backyard…but i wont do that..

I had the evil thought cause i am only human…

I dismissed the evil thought as i always try to be a good human.
 
If I was evil I would wish something really bad to happen to NZ team in their own backyard…but i wont do that..

I had the evil thought cause i am only human…

I dismissed the evil thought as i always try to be a good human.

Bizarre post, are you okay?
 
As mentioned not a single concrete fact shared.

As a fan or cricket I want to see cricket however, I will happily accept if Pak doesnt tour NZ in coming years i am happy to see no Pak cricket then cricket with countries which embarrass you and make the decision just before the toss to maximize the impact.

So as a fan I am okay even if Pak cricket has to go into exile. If you want Pak to tour then tour Pak when it your turn, if not then fair play and no one should blame Pak as well for not touring.

PS; nothing wrong emotional here but, you deal politics with politics. Pak cricket team has no obligation to earn money for other boards if they are not willing to reply the same courtesy and that too without anything credible

Same. Learn to stand up for justice at any cost
 
Ok so only their lives matter then?

I don't think terrorists would only have attacked NZ players. Yes to them their lives would naturally come first. It is human nature to think this way. They are Cricketers not soldiers.
 
Whosoever will incur the financial losses, they are the guilty party, or has something to hide, in this last minute change.
 
As mentioned not a single concrete fact shared.


So as a fan I am okay even if Pak cricket has to go into exile.
If you want Pak to tour then tour Pak when it your turn, if not then fair play and no one should blame Pak as well for not touring.

PS; nothing wrong emotional here but, you deal politics with politics. Pak cricket team has no obligation to earn money for other boards if they are not willing to reply the same courtesy and that too without anything credible

Could look at a full cricket seasons of PSL
 
Just before the first ball is bowled, Pak can have credible intel that their players are under threat. The shockwaves this money spinner of a match being canceled will provide to ICC and board members will send would be a fascinating site. Funnily they wont be able to do anything as well because you know “players lives” and “the credible intel”, who could blame Pak.

Nothing to blame... but Pakistan have the every excuse for not playing against RAW & RSS based team
 
It is the game of BCCI...
Since few days ago England cricket board announced that English full strength team will be available for Pakistan series..and many great players of England withdrew from IPL...
So BCCI as a revenge did that...
So Pakistan should boycott india in T20 World Cup..

So 2 of the Big 3 are using Pak and NZ as footballs?
 
Nothing to blame... but Pakistan have the every excuse for not playing against RAW & RSS based team

Pretty much. If you dont want to play, excuses can be many and when you can wrap them in the coat of “intel” which you dont even have to share and “players live” who can even debate you.

So literally you can opt out of any match, series or tournament while using good enough excuses so that no one can even point a finger at you.
 
Their own government intelligence did nothing for that Mosque attack, did PCB use it as an excuse?

Stop defending a nation that brews cowardice.

They provided no reason, nothing changed in the last 24 hours that I am aware of.

Do the lives of our players matter less that we toured NZ during the peak of COVID and the Christchurch Mosque Attack?

Look around yourself, this is just a farce. It is time we put New Zealand Cricket in their place as a meek, unprofitable board. I want to see us boycott future series against them, even this WC game. It's time we give them a statement.
 
Interior minister of Pak has also stated, not a single concrete fact was provided. As per him NZ PM told Pak PM that there was some intel that when Nz team will leave there would be some attack to which Pak PM assured security. There is not a such single intel received by any of the other agencies involved.
 
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This is Shameful from New Zealand. You been in the country for Week with no issues, should reveal what the security “alert” was.
 
Imagine a country hosting multiple armies including US and many others who are evacuating the Afg region and somehow NZ team isnt safe.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On a HOAX threat you have called-off the tour despite all assurances!! <a href="https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BLACKCAPS</a> do you understand the IMPACT of your decision?</p>— Shahid Afridi (@SAfridiOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/SAfridiOfficial/status/1438821754739347457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Ah. So will PCB ask NZC to forfeit the series ? :rabada2

How does it even matter as this is not part of the super series so points dont come into consideration. Whereas the ENg vs IND series had points at stake and also a historic series win in the balance.
 
More I am getting news from Pakistan, NZ should have trusted the security intelligence of Pakistan. But I still don't understand what was severity that country pm had to discuss!
 
Inshallah when Pak Cricket is ever strong we will remember NZ, England and others who let us down. I am not talking about India, not playing them is due to politics.

Lol, so who will Pak be friends with? Despite this slight we are still in no position to create more enemies.

Not sure how or in what world Pakistan become as strong as ever either. All signs point to the opposite.
 
Very poor media release by the PCB.

The Kiwis wouldn’t have gone to Pakistan if they didn’t intend to play.

Does anyone seriously expect them to defy a security alert from their own government?

The situation is unfortunate, but the PCB press release is a disgrace.

Unless something big happened/was discovered in the ground since it was the NZC ground security who gave intel which resulted in the cancellation of the tour, I'm not sure the reason holds.

It seems like a unilateral decision by NZC to abandon the tour at the last minute because the PCB hasn't conveyed any sign of an intel threat to the game in its press release. The least NZ can do is forfeit the tour like you kept asking the Indian team to do so (and similarly the future series with Eng and Aus if they pull out as well). At least with the ECB, it's just financial damage. With PCB, this last minute cancellation has most definitely caused reputational damage for Pakistan and has likely risked the chances of future tours from England and Australia happening in the country.
 
This is beyond politics and a deplorable act. Pakistan will continue to suffer unless a cost is not imposed on its enemy. We give too much space to this enemy and this is the end-result. Pakistanis will suffer and will be isolated again will help our enemy and ICC rake in moolah from India v Pakistan match. Really feel sick of this game and now boycotting it. Former cricketer YouTubers are too cowardly to take a stance, PCB is too cowardly to take a stance and withdraw from wt20. Better now for the public to do something. South African Cricket remained isolated for 22 years but played cricket with honour. You don't feel any honour or self-respect as a Pakistani with cricket anymore. Time to abandon cricket and invest in other sports.
 
I just hope it's not a hoax because if it was then they've put everything Pakistan has done over the past few years further back.
 
Couple pointers
1. It’s not Pakistan’s current government fault so please stop making this political issue nothing has happened.
2. Does New Zealand cricket players lives matter more then Pakistani citizens, if not share the concerns to see if it’s legit, if players lives matter more then don’t ever come back, including PSL.
 
This is a conspiracy to discredit Pakistan so that cricket never comes back. World thinks Pakistan is responsible for Taliban in Afghanistan and the power house of cricket India with its deep pocket has like always pulled the strings behind the close doors.. India is most disturbed by Taliban than US so here you see the muscle exercised by India. The company which assess the threat level did not even share the threat with Pakistani security team and thats where I feel something is fishy.

Usuall conspiracy theories
 
Just tuned in, this is so tragic - what would have changed in the last 24 hours?
If they were ready to rock up in pak, check into the hotels, be assured of all security, do their practice sessions-pose with the trophy - what exactly did the NZ govt discover that made them take this extreme step? the answer would be very intresting and revealing i supposse.
Truly sad for the honest cricket loving fans of pakistan and for those on PP who were excited to see NZ play on pak shores, this is so bad.
 
This is a conspiracy to discredit Pakistan so that cricket never comes back. World thinks Pakistan is responsible for Taliban in Afghanistan and the power house of cricket India with its deep pocket has like always pulled the strings behind the close doors.. India is most disturbed by Taliban than US so here you see the muscle exercised by India. The company which assess the threat level did not even share the threat with Pakistani security team and thats where I feel something is fishy.

Yea right. And I guess you will say the same should Eng pull out.
And Santa Claus exists, keep the window open m8.
 
If i remember correctly this was the same country where Bangaldesh cricketers narrowly escaped a mosque attack and still that tour was continued if i remember correctly and now these cowards cry about security threats. Stupid people!

It’s called double standards. The same would happen to any Indian tour-no cancellation, security threat or COVID or not— least not by the touring board anyway.
 
Just tuned in, this is so tragic - what would have changed in the last 24 hours?
If they were ready to rock up in pak, check into the hotels, be assured of all security, do their practice sessions-pose with the trophy - what exactly did the NZ govt discover that made them take this extreme step? the answer would be very intresting and revealing i supposse.
Truly sad for the honest cricket loving fans of pakistan and for those on PP who were excited to see NZ play on pak shores, this is so bad.

I think they were struggling to find good IPL streams in Pakistan so a bold step had to be taken. Or perhaps some resentment from missing out on that lucrative tourney.
 
Just reading up on this now. No specific threat by NZ mentioned. If they don't mention a threat soon, Pakistan should refuse to tour NZ in the future citing security concerns from white supremacists.
 
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