Can I suggest Asif Ali as Pakistan's T20I captain?

[khyberlion]

Pak cup 2023 57 avg 133 sr. And when have I lied? Next time you all need to prove it. I'm tired of these lies claims being thrown around because people are upset nonstop are anything that's Anti Misbah.

Anyway I am asking for your playing 11. Just give it.

Ah ok thanks for clarifying. So let's pick and choose stats when it suits us. At least be honest.

 

[mominsaigol]

Ah ok thanks for clarifying. So let's pick and choose stats when it suits us. At least be honest.

I am asking you for your playing 11. Give it.

And off topic, prove where I lied? How am I picking and choosing stats? You asked me sharjeel's stats and claimed I was lying? Now you're saying I'm picking and choosing? Picking and choosing what?

 

[khyberlion]

But as our "expert" came up with it, it must be good. But his attempt like all our attempts at picking teams is futile because no matter who you pick, it will still be from the same deck.

Expert as you rightly pointed missed a keeper maybe he has put himself at 8.

 

[Rana]

Ah ok thanks for clarifying. So let's pick and choose stats when it suits us. At least be honest.

Isn’t that what you guys do though? Pick performances against Bangladesh to push Rizwan as captain, and overlook the overall defeats he has been a part of?

 

[mominsaigol]

Isn’t that what you guys do though? Pick performances against Bangladesh to push Rizwan as captain, and overlook the overall defeats he has been a part of?

I didn't even pick and choose? He claimed I was lying about the avg and asked for it and I showed it to him.

Now I'm picking and choosing . What am I even picking and choosing?

 

[mominsaigol]

Expert as you rightly pointed missed a keeper maybe he has put himself at 8.

Hilarious how Someone doesn't know Usman Khan is a keeper. Yei halat hain.

Now stop whining and showcase your 11.

 

[Bewal Express]

Expert as you rightly pointed missed a keeper maybe he has put himself at 8.

And he definitely didn't suggest Rohail

 

[Rana]

Hilarious how Someone doesn't know Usman Khan is a keeper. Yei halat hain.

Now stop whining and showcase your 11.

Watch him make the most apologetic XI now

 

[mominsaigol]

Watch him make the most apologetic XI now

Naw he won't. I'd be surprised if he does.

He's deliberately ignoring it. This is what these people do.

Plus I haven't even insulted him yet @khyberlion has frequently insulted me nonstop.

 

[Rana]

Naw he won't. I'd be surprised if he does.

He's deliberately ignoring it. This is what these people do.

Plus I haven't even insulted him yet @khyberlion has frequently insulted me nonstop.

Iska bhi hisaab Kar lenge.

 

[mominsaigol]

He missed a keeper.

Me: usman Khan?

Naw only Rizzu is a keeper

 

[Rana]

He missed a keeper.

Me: usman Khan?

Naw only Rizzu is a keeper

Because he’s not a khyberlion like Rizwan is.

 

[mominsaigol]

Iska bhi hisaab Kar lenge.

He's another 160kph.

Pretends to be a nice Munafiq, Even agreed with me on rizzu batting lower then no 4 and no 5, but will insult behind people's backs and bring other stuff into it.

And when you ask them to actually provide something they don't respond.

 

[Rana]

He's another 160kph.

Pretends to be a nice Munafiq, Even agreed with me on rizzu batting lower then no 4 and no 5, but will insult behind people's backs and bring other stuff into it.

And when you ask them to actually provide something they don't respond.

A lot of these guys go missing after any major even/tournament.

He will be the same.

 

[mominsaigol]

This is my squad.

@khyberlion this squad sucks

Okay provide a better one.

@khyberlion ‍‍‍‍‍‍

 

[mominsaigol]

A lot of these guys go missing after any major even/tournament.

He will be the same.

I'm aware. Remember spinking . I told him he'd vanish in a day. Alt accounts lol.

 

[Bewal Express]

Hilarious how Someone doesn't know Usman Khan is a keeper. Yei halat hain.

Now stop whining and showcase your 11.

So you will replace amongst the best( if not the best) with a guy that puts gloves on. In the 1992 WC David Boon kept Wicket but you wouldn't call him a WK. Does he keep in FC cricket?

 

[mominsaigol]

I really am curious to see who is going to bowl those extra 10 overs tmr?

Agha or saim or will they interchange? And can irfan Khan Niazi bowl?

 

[khyberlion]

I am asking you for your playing 11. Give it.

I will do that. Can you acknowledge that just provided stats when sharjeel did well and completely ignored his recent struggles as it didn't align with your narrative. This reflects on your lack of honesty which is visible for everyone to see.

 

[khyberlion]

Isn’t that what you guys do though? Pick performances against Bangladesh to push Rizwan as captain, and overlook the overall defeats he has been a part of?

You guys? I never advocated for rizwan to be made the captain. Maybe you have confused me with someone else.

 

[mominsaigol]

I will do that. Can you acknowledge that just provided stats when sharjeel did well and completely ignored his recent struggles as it didn't align with your narrative. This reflects on your lack of honesty which is visible for everyone to see.

Visible to who? To 2 people? One who fights with other Indian posters all day and causes problems and many Indian posters have questioned if he's bi polar or not.

And to the other who keeps brining in murder murder propaganda and consistently picks fights every day? And you who shamelessly likes their comments?

What failures are you even talking about? This was the last odi tournament sharjeel played, After this he's played t20 and rn is playing qea test? He performed in those t20 games, he's failing in qea but he's played like 2 games atm?

So what are you exactly referring to? I talked about his odi stats?

Honestly this is what happens when I have to deal with morons who don't even know Usman Khan is a keeper smh.

 

[khyberlion]

Hilarious how Someone doesn't know Usman Khan is a keeper. Yei halat hain.

Now stop whining and showcase your 11.

Your definition of a keeper seems to be a part time keeper. He dropped a couple of dollies which Kamran akmal would have proud of.

 

[khyberlion]

And he definitely didn't suggest Rohail

Not as bad as raza ul Mustafa.

 

[mominsaigol]

Your definition of a keeper seems to be a part time keeper. He dropped a couple of dollies which Kamran akmal would have proud of.

A part time keeper isn't someone who drops catches, A part time keeper is someone who doesn't keep and only keeps if theirs no other choice, like Umar Akmal use to do.

Usman Khan has kept most of his life. Infact rizwan has often side stepped to let usman Khan keep on numerous occasions and he even did it during the Prelude series pakistan played before t20 wc 2024.

As I said you genuinely do not know anything.

 

[mominsaigol]

How cute running to help his Juliet by diverting the lies.

Prove I lied?

Genuinely prove it?

 

[Bewal Express]

A part time keeper isn't someone who drops catches, A part time keeper is someone who doesn't keep and only keeps if theirs no other choice, like Umar Akmal use to do.

Usman Khan has kept most of his life. Infact rizwan has often side stepped to let usman Khan keep on numerous occasions and he even did it during the Prelude series pakistan played before t20 wc 2024.

As I said you genuinely do not know anything.

But you are suggesting replacing amongst the best in the World with a guy that keeps PT and won't be an in improvement in any sense of the Word. This is next level knowledge.

 

[mominsaigol]

You will be dealt with the same language you use. I will post my 11 don't worry.

I will post my 11 don't worry.

Then post it. Dont give me crap upon crap.

 

[mominsaigol]

Hilarious how certain people can't detect who's a keeper and who's isn't and can't actually give me their 11 or prove anything worth a damn.

Pure definition of time wasters.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Guys plz calm down and stick to the topic no more personal attacks anymore, if u guys dont have any thing positive to discuss here so plz leave this thread

 

[Bewal Express]

Guys plz calm down and stick to the topic no more personal attacks anymore, if u guys dont have any thing positive to discuss here so plz leave this thread

I haven't attacked anyone. On this topic are these guys so precious that we aren't allowed to challenge them.

 

[mominsaigol]

I haven't attacked anyone. On this topic are these guys so precious that we aren't allowed to challenge them.

I havent attacked anyone

Just now: I want him to squirm and run?

Hypocrite

 

[Bewal Express]

I havent attacked anyone

Just now: I want him to squirm and run?

Hypocrite

On your lack of cricket knowledge and your lie.

 

[gazza619]

You don't get the point that's the thing.

Let's see your batting lineup you've selected? Here's mine

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Sharjeel Khan
3) Kamran Ghulam
4) Usman Khan
5) Tayyab Tahir
6) Salman Ali Agha
7) Sajid Don

^^ This is the lineup that I personally trust in aus, And if sharjeel doesn't work, Then I'd happily replace him for Saud Shakeel as he worked well as an opener in psl.

What's your side? I feel this squad is perfect to atleast give Australia a fight

Dont think you know the history. Pakistan will never be a side which will score 250 in 20 overs or 400 in 50 overs. Never!

It is a waste of time gearing up with all these sloggers. Total waste.

Pakistan’s best chance is by finding bowlers who can defends average scores. This applies to both red ball and white ball. This is our history, this is our DNA.

 

[mominsaigol]

On your lack of cricket knowledge and your lie.

Is that an attack yes or no

 

[Bewal Express]

Sarcasm? You literally stated you wanted me to squirm and run just a second ago? To top it off I told you to leave me alone, yet you're constantly attacking me with threats upon threats?

Yes. You want to claim that you are expert and you came up with team that included an old match fixer, a WK that doesn't keep in FC and a team weaker than the one we already have. And the fact that you lied and by denying it, you called me a liar.

 

[mominsaigol]

Yes. You want to claim that you are expert and you came up with team that included an old match fixer, a WK that doesn't keep in FC and a team weaker than the one we already have. And the fact that you lied and by denying it, you called me a liar.

Are you frequently attacking and threatening me yes or no

 

[Rana]

Dont think you know the history. Pakistan will never be a side which will score 250 in 20 overs or 400 in 50 overs. Never!

It is a waste of time gearing up with all these sloggers. Total waste.

Pakistan’s best chance is by finding bowlers who can defends average scores. This applies to both red ball and white ball. This is our history, this is our DNA.

What are you trying to say? We just accept that we can’t be a team that can make big scores?? Even Ireland and Scotland have tried to play aggressive cricket and have successfully changed their method of play! How is Pakistan more handicapped than those two countries?

 

[mominsaigol]

@Bewal Express let me make one thing clear.

I am not speaking to you again. You will do the same.

 

[topspin]

A brilliant player Babar would play for Australia and it takes someone particularly stupid to think otherwise.

Babar would never be good enough to play for Australia. The guy averages in the 20s when he’s played tests there.

 

[khyberlion]

I will post my 11 don't worry.

Then post it. Dont give me crap upon crap.

I will post it when I want.

 

[topspin]

Dont think you know the history. Pakistan will never be a side which will score 250 in 20 overs or 400 in 50 overs. Never!

Misbah brainwashed and conditioned you to accept mediocrity.

It’s not always about the end result, it’s also about progression. You have to take the right approach and adhere to the modern demands of white ball cricket.

But fans like yourself with Misbah loser mentality want to see tuk tuk to 150-160. You do realise top teams can chase that in 15-16 overs without much sweat?

 

[Bewal Express]

Babar would never be good enough to play for Australia. The guy averages in the 20s when he’s played tests there.

I disagree. Babar is a very talented player brought up on slow wickets with the lowest bounce in International cricket . As Ian Chappell said many years ago it's easier for guys to go from bounce to low compared to low to high. In Australia the game is played from the hip upwards and in PK the ball barely gets to hip high. If Babar was brought up in their system he would a top player in Australia. And even our best players like Inzi, MY and MIandad struggled in Australia

 

[khyberlion]

Prove I lied?

Genuinely prove it?

Why are you asking him to be included based on historic performances? It doesn't make any sense. You can do that for every players than.

 

[topspin]

What are you trying to say? We just accept that we can’t be a team that can make big scores?? Even Ireland and Scotland have tried to play aggressive cricket and have successfully changed their method of play! How is Pakistan more handicapped than those two countries?

Hit the nail on the head here. Fans like this have no right to watch Pakistan cricket. They should stick to watching a Misbah compilation videos on YouTube on repeat with other cheerleaders.

 

[Kianig89]

This is the level of Sharjeel Khan Asif Ali promoters aka delusional group , they don't have a solid argument to defend these crap players rather just continue to belittle Rizwan and Babar.

Shameful, is there is any one batsmen better than Babar Azam available in Pakistan today, genuine question.

Now don't show up a random domestic rookie

 

[mominsaigol]

Why are you asking him to be included based on historic performances? It doesn't make any sense. You can do that for every players than.

Prove I lied right now.

I will post it when I want.

Yeah, thats what you lot frequently have a habit of saying

 

[Rana]

This is the level of Sharjeel Khan Asif Ali promoters aka delusional group , they don't have a solid argument to defend these crap players rather just continue to belittle Rizwan and Babar.

Shameful, is there is any one batsmen better than Babar Azam available in Pakistan today, genuine question.

Now don't show up a random domestic rookie

Stop crying

It’s your mates who bump this thread to feel good about yourselves amidst the misery. Don’t cry now that your heroes get violated as a response!

 

[Kianig89]

From Misbah ul Haq to Aqib Javed to Mohsin Khan to Rameez Raja to Amir Sohail to Wasim Akram to Waqar Younis, everybody is on consensus that Sharjeel Khan is not cut for international cricket, he is not the one for a long haul same goes for Asif Ali.

Yet these looley langrey fans keep shouting their names all day

 

[Rana]

From Misbah ul Haq to Aqib Javed to Mohsin Khan to Rameez Raja to Amir Sohail to Wasim Akram to Waqar Younis, everybody is on consensus that Sharjeel Khan is not cut for international cricket, he is not the one for a long haul same goes for Asif Ali.

Yet these looley langrey fans keep shouting their names all day

That’s an absolute lie

Stop making up things. You got caught lying earlier too when you said Gary Kirsten vouched for Rizwan as captain.

 

[Bewal Express]

Misbah brainwashed and conditioned you to accept mediocrity.

It’s not always about the end result, it’s also about progression. You have to take the right approach and adhere to the modern demands of white ball cricket.

But fans like yourself with Misbah loser mentality want to see tuk tuk to 150-160. You do realise top teams can chase that in 15-16 overs without much sweat?

Let's assume you are write and we need to be positive and I am not averse to thinking that positive thinking can be helpful. But the question goes back to who are the guys to take us forward. And as you have seen the resident expert came with the likes of Kamran and Usman. Are they the guys to take us onto 8 an over in T20s against good teams? Or 300 against good teams in ODI. You know as well as I that we have a system which is a total mess. It's a miracle that have done so well with our dreadful system.

 

[topspin]

I disagree. Babar is a very talented player brought up on slow wickets with the lowest bounce in International cricket . As Ian Chappell said many years ago it's easier for guys to go from bounce to low compared to low to high. In Australia the game is played from the hip upwards and in PK the ball barely gets to hip high. If Babar was brought up in their system he would a top player in Australia. And even our best players like Inzi, MY and MIandad struggled in Australia

You’re making wild assumptions without any evidence to back this up. You have to base your judgement on facts rather than sentiment, which is what you’re doing here.

I sense the only reason why you’re pro-Babar is because he was also backed by your favourite politician.

Anyone can name a player and say oh so and so would’ve been so good if they were brought in country x and playing there home tests there.

Please do not compare Inzy, Miandad and MoYo to Babar.

Babar isn’t even half as good as them. He’s yet to produce a single test innings that is worthy of note.

 

[Kianig89]

Do maatam on your national team first

160 against USA on a road in Dallas.

This deserves maatam first!

Yes with Usman and AzamKhan collectively scoring 3 runs, it is indeed painful

 

[Bewal Express]

Let's assume you are write and we need to be positive and I am not averse to thinking that positive thinking can be helpful. But the question goes back to who are the guys to take us forward. And as you have seen the resident expert came with the likes of Kamran and Usman. Are they the guys to take us onto 8 an over in T20s against good teams? Or 300 against good teams in ODI. You know as well as I that we have a system which is a total mess. It's a miracle that have done so well with our dreadful system.

Edit
Right

 

[Kianig89]

That’s an absolute lie

Stop making up things. You got caught lying earlier too when you said Gary Kirsten vouched for Rizwan as captain.

Gary wanted Rizwan as captain, you prove it if it's otherwise

 

[Rana]

Barking is your speciality which you are the master off. That one thing you are actually good at. Maybe stick to barking as anything else is not your cup of tea.

Of course you will know who is a good exponent of your tongue.

I vow to make the remaining few days of your stay here the worst experience of your keyboard life.

Turning up to pick fights with people who you don’t know will have consequences.

 

[topspin]

Let's assume you are write and we need to be positive and I am not averse to thinking that positive thinking can be helpful. But the question goes back to who are the guys to take us forward. And as you have seen the resident expert came with the likes of Kamran and Usman. Are they the guys to take us onto 8 an over in T20s against good teams? Or 300 against good teams in ODI. You know as well as I that we have a system which is a total mess. It's a miracle that have done so well with our dreadful system.

Pakistan needs foreign coaches and pitch curators. They need people overseas help run their cricket because unfortunately our ex-players don’t have the best understanding of the game. This is where we need to start.

 

[Rana]

Gary wanted Rizwan as captain, you prove it if it's otherwise

No he didn’t. Stop lying. Stop deluding yourself.

 

[mominsaigol]

Dont think you know the history. Pakistan will never be a side which will score 250 in 20 overs or 400 in 50 overs. Never!

It is a waste of time gearing up with all these sloggers. Total waste.

Pakistan’s best chance is by finding bowlers who can defends average scores. This applies to both red ball and white ball. This is our history, this is our DNA.

I'm well aware of the history, however it doesn't mean that Pakistan fill their lineup woth walking wickets like saim, Abdullah, Babar, Rizwan etc.

 

[Kianig89]

No he didn’t. Stop lying. Stop deluding yourself.

Yes Kirsten was OK with Rizwan as captain, it was other reasons for which he left Paksitan team
If only Kirsten was that smart he should have wanted Asif Ali as captain

 

[Bewal Express]

You’re making wild assumptions without any evidence to back this up. You have to base your judgement on facts rather than sentiment, which is what you’re doing here.

I sense the only reason why you’re pro-Babar is because he was also backed by your favourite politician.

Anyone can name a player and say oh so and so would’ve been so good if they were brought in country x and playing there home tests there.

Please do not compare Inzy, Miandad and MoYo to Babar.

Babar isn’t even half as good as them. He’s yet to produce a single test innings that is worthy of note.

I like Babar because I like stylish players. When many on here said he was the best PK batsman ever, I said he isn't. I thought Inzi and MY were much more talented. Look it up. I don't need IK to lile or dislike a cricketer for me to like or dislike.
And why are you so reluctant to discuss the Stats of Inzi, MY and Miandad in Australia? Are they not relevant? For me they were still excellent players

 

[Rana]

Yes Kirsten was OK with Rizwan as captain, it was other reasons for which he left Paksitan team
If only Kirsten was that smart he should have wanted Asif Ali as captain

There is absolutely NO PROOF Kirsten wanted Rizwan as captain! He wanted Rizwan kicked out of the T20 team! Do you deny this???

 

[khyberlion]

Of course you will know who is a good exponent of your tongue.

I vow to make the remaining few days of your stay here the worst experience of your keyboard life.

Turning up to pick fights with people who you don’t know will have consequences.

You are barking again keep going. This is acutely quite sad acting a tough guy on the internet. I don't want to assume your age can't be more then 10 which maybe an insult to 10 years old.

 

[Bewal Express]

Pakistan needs foreign coaches and pitch curators. They need people overseas help run their cricket because unfortunately our ex-players don’t have the best understanding of the game. This is where we need to start.

I think that is all fine but the issue is going to be what happens at the lower levels. And that's where the investment needs to go. The Foreign coaches are mostly a waste of time. I have worked with coaches and they do very little technical work, mostly it's nice words and positivety. I am not sure if our players would even understand what it means.

 

[mominsaigol]

Yes Kirsten was OK with Rizwan as captain, it was other reasons for which he left Paksitan team
If only Kirsten was that smart he should have wanted Asif Ali as captain

If Kristen wanted rizzu as a captain, Why did he leave the day after rizzu got appointed?

 

[Kianig89]

There is absolutely NO PROOF Kirsten wanted Rizwan as captain! He wanted Rizwan kicked out of the T20 team! Do you deny this???

Haha he wanted Rizwan out of the team only to be left red faced and packed his bags.

May be Gary underestimated Rizwan, do you even know what are cricket associations / regions in PCB.What is their power and how they sit on BoG.

Try to research about How PCB works rather than daydreaming about Asif Ali

 

[Kianig89]

If Kristen wanted rizzu as a captain, Why did he leave the day after rizzu got appointed?

That is for you to think on dear. Cricket circles in the country know exactly why Kirsten left.

 

[mominsaigol]

That is for you to think on dear. Cricket circles in the country know exactly why Kirsten left.

I'm asking why.

 

[Rana]

Haha he wanted Rizwan out of the team only to be left red faced and packed his bags.

There you go. So Kirsten knows the deal with Rizwan.

Most sane people will realise he is a conman.

Only Pakistanis who want to live in La La land will shove him down our throats as if he is something decent.

 

[Rana]

If Kristen wanted rizzu as a captain, Why did he leave the day after rizzu got appointed?

Because he never wanted Rizwan as captain. He wanted to completely shift Pakistan’s style of play and that was impossible with this guy as a major stumbling block!

 

[Rana]

You are barking again keep going. This is acutely quite sad acting a tough guy on the internet. I don't want to assume your age can't be more then 10 which maybe an insult to 10 years old.

Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised at you mentioning 10 year olds…

 

[Kianig89]

I'm asking why.

Kirsten had commitments in Muscat for players development program while PCB wanted him there.

 

[mominsaigol]

Kirsten had commitments in Muscat for players development program while PCB wanted him there.

Okay but why did it convientally happen the moment rizzu got made captain?

Don't you think the timing is very sus?

 

[Rana]

Kirsten had commitments in Muscat for players development program while PCB wanted him there.

Where are you getting this information from? Some peer baba jee??

 

[Kianig89]

There you go. So Kirsten knows the deal with Rizwan.

Most sane people will realise he is a conman.

Only Pakistanis who want to live in La La land will shove him down our throats as if he is something decent.

Babar SSA Shadab Shan all out of equation from captaincy there was no more established player left. Rizwan was an easy choice there is no conspiracy in it unless if somebody is Asif Ali promoter

 

[Rana]

Babar SSA Shadab Shan all out of equation from captaincy there was no more established player left. Rizwan was an easy choice there is no conspiracy in it unless if somebody is Asif Ali promoter

You don’t make your biggest stumbling block as a captain! What don’t you understand about this?

 

[Kianig89]

Okay but why did it convientally happen the moment rizzu got made captain?

Don't you think the timing is very sus?

No tour is about to start both parties Kirsten and PCB cannot work together , therefore the timely exit

 

[Kianig89]

Where are you getting this information from? Some peer baba jee??

Fortunately I know the ground realities and daily visit a big stadium in the country where there is some professional work

 

[topspin]

I like Babar because I like stylish players. When many on here said he was the best PK batsman ever, I said he isn't. I thought Inzi and MY were much more talented. Look it up. I don't need IK to lile or dislike a cricketer for me to like or dislike.
And why are you so reluctant to discuss the Stats of Inzi, MY and Miandad in Australia? Are they not relevant? For me they were still excellent players

Miandad had a decent record in Australia against the likes of Lillee and Thomson. He averaged almost 40 against a very strong bowling attack.

MoYo and Inzy did underperform in Australia but at least they both averaged in the 30s and have scored brilliant hundreds. Babar could only dream of scoring a hundred like the one MoYo did in that Melbourne Boxing Day test match.

Babar has batted on Australian wickets which have been more docile and slower than what it used to be. He had the luxury of batting on the best wickets but he could only average in the 20s. This tells you everything you need to know.

If we revisit your statement:

A brilliant player Babar would play for Australia and it takes someone particularly stupid to think otherwise.

It would particularly stupid if you were not to retract this.

 

[Rana]

Okay but why did it convientally happen the moment rizzu got made captain?

Don't you think the timing is very sus?

100% sus

A coach can compromise if some of his players are not picked but no way would he compromise if he is forced/shoved to work with someone he doesn’t approve of as captain.

 

[Kianig89]

You don’t make your biggest stumbling block as a captain! What don’t you understand about this?

The lobbies in PCB have their own agendas, a player perceived as a villain for some person might be the best choice for stakeholders to bank on.