Canada election: Trudeau's Liberals win but loses majority

[Gabbar Singh]

Why is it patriotism when its India and Pakistan but "Racism" when its the west?

Touché.

 

[JaDed]

After seeing the right wing debacle of Ford's government in Ontario, I hope Canadians see what the Scheer government will be about in addition to being racist and xenophobic (a given for the Conservatives).

Will be voting this year. Trudeau was good but this guy is too much of a liberal. He messed up with Syrian refugees big time. Most of the refugees don't get the treatment as the one syrian refugees did. They didn't need to stay at hotels like bro. Come on.

Most immigrants are conservatives, in the past immigrants voted for liberal cause they are the one that gave us life....supposedly. But Liberal is now much more to the left that even immigrants aren't liking it. Conservatives are becoming popular once again, their view is similar to those of immigrants anyway lol. Also the new gen conservatives aren't bigots or racists. The big bad wolfe is no longer muslims. It is now Indians. Brampton is 80% Indians, the driving quality is absolutely nuts and when you need some fraud work done ? You go to an Indian guy. Indians participate in mortgage frauds, income tax frauds and etc. It is not like other culture participate but Indians get targeted. Mocking Indians or Brampton is the new trend. Everyone joins together to hate on Brampton. We are the jokers, we are laughing stock. It also doesn't help when broke Indian students hit on random girls with their Dodge Challengers and Benz with blasting Punjabi music that they can't afford. Russell Peters joke may have been funny, but it has done more damage than anything.

Can't wait for GT20 to take place in Brampton lol. Wonder what others have to say about that.

I went to Brampton in March and can agree with everything you said about the Punjabi music, near the Punjabi bazaar I saw just that and questioned my parents about it, tbh I blame the immigrants in this regard, the cash jobs also hurt the economy, I have come to know people who are citizens doing cash jobs immigrants, just to save on tax, how is the healthcare gonna work?

Conservatives are xenophobic but Ontario Liberal govnt’s taxes were nuts, and 3% immigration aim is too much for any country! I might apply too but im aware regarding it being too much on the system.. and out of those 3% -42% are going to be Indians..

Canada is great place to settle i dont doubt that, but for GTA to be feasible for future generations who were born there some tough decisions need to be taken.

 

[UP]

Trudeau has destroyed Canada with his extreme left policies. Can’t wait to kick him out in October. Every tom, dick and harry ends up in Canada these day. Gone are the days when educated and sensible immigration mattered.

Voting Conservatives later this year.

 

[Pakistanian]

Trudeau has destroyed Canada with his extreme left policies. Can’t wait to kick him out in October. Every tom, dick and harry ends up in Canada these day. Gone are the days when educated and sensible immigration mattered.

Voting Conservatives later this year.

You're sounding like a white supremacist or should I say Uncle Tom lol.

 

[UP]

You're sounding like a white supremacist or should I say Uncle Tom lol.

Homeless shelters are full, people are staying in hotels, people are homeless on streets, Ontario has cut back a lot of funding for legal aid, the provincial government is not willing to help refugees/newcomers. The extreme left PM has costed tax payers billions for his illogical plan. In the end, my life suffers because of taxes and illogical planning by governments. Taxes are through the roof - my water and waste bill which I have paid $350 for years and years went up all of a sudden to $500 in last few months!!! Govts are in deficit and they don’t have money to deal with the mess. There is no coordination between provinces and federal government - one guy is inviting the whole world and the other guy is cutting their funding. Makes sense to you?

 

[Pakistanian]

Homeless shelters are full, people are staying in hotels, people are homeless on streets, Ontario has cut back a lot of funding for legal aid, the provincial government is not willing to help refugees/newcomers. The extreme left PM has costed tax payers billions for his illogical plan. In the end, my life suffers because of taxes and illogical planning by governments. Taxes are through the roof - my water and waste bill which I have paid $350 for years and years went up all of a sudden to $500 in last few months!!! Govts are in deficit and they don’t have money to deal with the mess. There is no coordination between provinces and federal government - one guy is inviting the whole world and the other guy is cutting their funding. Makes sense to you?

The whole "inviting the whole world" thing is a myth perpetuated by the alt right, Canada hasn't raised the number of people that can migrate to Canada, or the number of people that can study there, those numbers have remained the same for the past 20 years. The only difference is that this Canadian Prime Minister has done the right thing to welcome Syrian refugees, that's literally the only difference. It's far better than what's going down here in Amerca where immigrants are being kept in cages or in Australia where they have a whole detention island. I feel like somebody with an economics background would be able to refute your asseration that the correlation between the govt deficit/rising taxes is an "increase in immigration" lol .

 

[JaDed]

The whole "inviting the whole world" thing is a myth perpetuated by the alt right, Canada hasn't raised the number of people that can migrate to Canada, or the number of people that can study there, those numbers have remained the same for the past 20 years. The only difference is that this Canadian Prime Minister has done the right thing to welcome Syrian refugees, that's literally the only difference. It's far better than what's going down here in Amerca where immigrants are being kept in cages or in Australia where they have a whole detention island. I feel like somebody with an economics background would be able to refute your asseration that the correlation between the govt deficit/rising taxes is an "increase in immigration" lol .

Irrespective of Justin ,Ford is an idiot, the guy is cutting down on education funding and I’m sure wants no free healthcare.

The french immersion schools are also taking a hit as the free transport being provided is being cut for kids living far, french is important part of Canadian culture its sad politics is being played on it which will isolate French speaking Canadians.

 

[JaDed]

The above msg was for @UP and not you [MENTION=142256]Pakistanian[/MENTION]

 

[Pakistanian]

Why is it patriotism when its India and Pakistan but "Racism" when its the west?

Your point is only valid for India as they have elected a far right fear-mongerer that has won elections off inciting hate towards minorities. Pakistan on the other hand elected fiscal liberal with a moderate social outlook, Imran Khan has wants free movement with Afghanistan and even and even made gestures towards India, so Pakistani's certainly did not elect a racist or somebody from the far right. People like to muddy the waters by lumping Pakistan with India which is just disingenuous as both countries have very different voting attitudes and have elected governments that are complete polar opposites.

 

[JaDed]

Your point is only valid for India as they have elected a far right fear-mongerer that has won elections off inciting hate towards minorities. Pakistan on the other hand elected fiscal liberal with a moderate social outlook, Imran Khan has wants free movement with Afghanistan and even and even made gestures towards India, so Pakistani's certainly did not elect a racist or somebody from the far right. People like to muddy the waters by lumping Pakistan with India which is just disingenuous as both countries have very different voting attitudes and have elected governments that are complete polar opposites.

Pakistan’s liberal leader is still right of centre for almost all modern democracies, so lets not get into that.
No liberal leader around the world would speak about religious history!

 

[JaDed]

I love someone can be called liberal when they have done absolutely nothing to take off blasphemy law, liberals cannot have bias for any religion, they have to be absolute religion neutral.

Sadiq Khan probably is an example but not Imran Khan.

 

[faraz39]

The whole "inviting the whole world" thing is a myth perpetuated by the alt right, Canada hasn't raised the number of people that can migrate to Canada, or the number of people that can study there, those numbers have remained the same for the past 20 years. The only difference is that this Canadian Prime Minister has done the right thing to welcome Syrian refugees, that's literally the only difference. It's far better than what's going down here in Amerca where immigrants are being kept in cages or in Australia where they have a whole detention island. I feel like somebody with an economics background would be able to refute your asseration that the correlation between the govt deficit/rising taxes is an "increase in immigration" lol .

Not to mention the financial support for refugeed is a misicule percentage of the overall budget so if you are looking for cuts, there is much bigger fish to fry BUT it is politically convenient to pick on immigrants and refugees.

I don't recall any massive increases in federal taxes so not sure what the complain there is. Infact the monthly allowance for mothers was increased which has proven to reduce poverty as women are shown to spend money on their children (whereas the right wing tax cuts for businesses DO NOT tricke down. Never has and never will.)

 

[srh]

very hard to vote in coming elections; both Liberals and Conservatives have too many negative points; Justin is not for transparency and ok with drugs; Ford is anti-education and anti-healthcare

 

[Pakistanian]

Pakistan’s liberal leader is still right of centre for almost all modern democracies, so lets not get into that.
No liberal leader around the world would speak about religious history!

You're only looking at the left-right spectrum through social lens, Imran Khan was elected on a very liberal economic platform, in America and most of the west he would considered a socialist for advocating for a welfare state, universal healthcare, big government, increasing taxes, prosecuting the rich/elite etc That's why I said fiscally he is very liberal, desis think "liberal/conservative" only entails social views when in reality the biggest test for where you lie on the political spectrum is what your fiscal views are.

 

[slipcatch]

Trudeau has destroyed Canada with his extreme left policies. Can’t wait to kick him out in October. Every tom, dick and harry ends up in Canada these day. Gone are the days when educated and sensible immigration mattered.

Voting Conservatives later this year.

You seem educated ( if one were to go by desi standard, you speak English) but you do not come off of as sensible.

When are you going back to your country?

 

[JaDed]

You're only looking at the left-right spectrum through social lens, Imran Khan was elected on a very liberal economic platform, in America and most of the west he would considered a socialist for advocating for a welfare state, universal healthcare, big government, increasing taxes, prosecuting the rich/elite etc That's why I said fiscally he is very liberal, desis think "liberal/conservative" only entails social views when in reality the biggest test for where you lie on the political spectrum is what your fiscal views are.

Actually its not,

Liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics. Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others, but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty. As the revolutionary American pamphleteer Thomas Paine expressed it in Common Sense (1776), government is at best “a necessary evil.” Laws, judges, and police are needed to secure the individual’s life and liberty, but their coercive power may also be turned against him. The problem, then, is to devise a system that gives government the power necessary to protect individual liberty but also prevents those who govern from abusing that power.

What is liberalism?

Liberalism is a political and economic doctrine that emphasizes individual autonomy, equality of opportunity, and the protection of individual rights (primarily to life, liberty, and property), originally against the state and later against both the state and private economic actors, including businesses.


https://www.britannica.com/topic/liberalism

 

[Pakistanian]

Actually its not,

It is lmaoo, in America being a liberal is being a supporter of a welfare state, universal healthcare, pro-immigration etc Imran Khan fits the bill in that regard, btw I never said he was a "liberal leader" in my original comment, that's what you poorly deduced from that. All I said was that he wasn't a far right hate mongerer unlike Modi , he didn't gain his votes through racism or hypernationalism and that he was elected on a liberal economic platform, you made it seem like I was claiming that Khan was the second coming of Karl Marx .

 

[JaDed]

It is lmaoo, in America being a liberal is being a supporter of a welfare state, universal healthcare, pro-immigration etc Imran Khan fits the bill in that regard, btw I never said he was a "liberal leader" in my original comment, that's what you poorly deduced from that. All I said was that he wasn't a far right hate mongerer unlike Modi , he didn't gain his votes through racism or hypernationalism and that he was elected on a liberal economic platform, you made it seem like I was claiming that Khan was the second coming of Karl Marx .

Lets breakdown on what you are saying first,

Moderate outlook- incorrect please again check the definition of that and why blasphemy laws are there.
Liberal economic platform- again check on what it is and please do not give me the American definition of liberal but the actual definition.

And if welfare state is what you are saying , then in India there various terrible populist actions from forgiving farmer loans, to free healthcare, education till certain age,free mid day meals, reservations for certain societies ,SKILL India(crap) etc.. and yes some by BJP itself.

 

[UP]

The whole "inviting the whole world" thing is a myth perpetuated by the alt right, Canada hasn't raised the number of people that can migrate to Canada, or the number of people that can study there, those numbers have remained the same for the past 20 years. The only difference is that this Canadian Prime Minister has done the right thing to welcome Syrian refugees, that's literally the only difference. It's far better than what's going down here in Amerca where immigrants are being kept in cages or in Australia where they have a whole detention island. I feel like somebody with an economics background would be able to refute your asseration that the correlation between the govt deficit/rising taxes is an "increase in immigration" lol .

I’m all for planned and quality immigration. I’m strictly against illogical, brainless immigration. I don’t want people crossing illegally in huge, huge numbers who end up staying in hotels on taxpayers dime. If you read this thread’s history, I actually voted for Trudeau back in 2015, fully knowing his campaign promises but the guy has crossed limits. Brainless policies, people jumping queues which is costing billions. Those billions could have been spent on education, healthcare, infrastructure or taking down the deficit.

 

[faraz39]

I’m all for planned and quality immigration. I’m strictly against illogical, brainless immigration. I don’t want people crossing illegally in huge, huge numbers who end up staying in hotels on taxpayers dime. If you read this thread’s history, I actually voted for Trudeau back in 2015, fully knowing his campaign promises but the guy has crossed limits. Brainless policies, people jumping queues which is costing billions. Those billions could have been spent on education, healthcare, infrastructure or taking down the deficit.

Do you have any proof for this claim of people jumping queues costing billions?

 

[Realromeo]

Your point is only valid for India as they have elected a far right fear-mongerer that has won elections off inciting hate towards minorities. Pakistan on the other hand elected fiscal liberal with a moderate social outlook, Imran Khan has wants free movement with Afghanistan and even and even made gestures towards India, so Pakistani's certainly did not elect a racist or somebody from the far right. People like to muddy the waters by lumping Pakistan with India which is just disingenuous as both countries have very different voting attitudes and have elected governments that are complete polar opposites.

LOL relax, Pakistan is still a conservative, conservative doesn't mean racist, bigot and etc. Both Indian parties are still conservative for rest of the world and are only "Liberal" or "moderate" according to Indian standards. Pakistan is still a "conservative" nation by far, evern for Indian standards.

Pshhh Modi suffered humiliating defeat in my state. India is 20% world's population, we aren't all the same.

 

[Realromeo]

I went to Brampton in March and can agree with everything you said about the Punjabi music, near the Punjabi bazaar I saw just that and questioned my parents about it, tbh I blame the immigrants in this regard, the cash jobs also hurt the economy, I have come to know people who are citizens doing cash jobs immigrants, just to save on tax, how is the healthcare gonna work?

Conservatives are xenophobic but Ontario Liberal govnt’s taxes were nuts, and 3% immigration aim is too much for any country! I might apply too but im aware regarding it being too much on the system.. and out of those 3% -42% are going to be Indians..

Canada is great place to settle i dont doubt that, but for GTA to be feasible for future generations who were born there some tough decisions need to be taken.

Nice I thought you lived in Chennai hahaha. To be honest these cash jobs only saved them couple of hundred dollars a month on taxes. They barely play a big role in government income. It's the guy that owns multiple businesses, offers "10% off if you pay with cash", claims he made only $10,000 in profit and rest were losses is the one hurting business. Also corporate bosses that write off their whole vehicle and house off.

I can't speak Hindi or Punjabi so I find it annoying and irritable seeing wanna be tough Punjabis acting like they are tougher than they actually are. But again, most of the second generation will integrate. Second generation kids dont watch cricket or have no idea how it is played.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Justin Trudeau is betting that he can pull off another come-from-behind victory in October <a href="https://t.co/s8dobD4fn4">https://t.co/s8dobD4fn4</a></p>— The Economist (@TheEconomist) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1144449607017095168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[GenericBrand]

Lmao Canadians never learn.

They got mad at Wynne and voted for Ford and now they are reaping the "rewards". Same thing will happen here, they will vote for Scheer because they are upset at Trudeau.

When the cuts and cancellations start coming in these same people will moan at the travesty.

 

[JaDed]

Nice I thought you lived in Chennai hahaha. To be honest these cash jobs only saved them couple of hundred dollars a month on taxes. They barely play a big role in government income. It's the guy that owns multiple businesses, offers "10% off if you pay with cash", claims he made only $10,000 in profit and rest were losses is the one hurting business. Also corporate bosses that write off their whole vehicle and house off.

I can't speak Hindi or Punjabi so I find it annoying and irritable seeing wanna be tough Punjabis acting like they are tougher than they actually are. But again, most of the second generation will integrate. Second generation kids dont watch cricket or have no idea how it is played.

Oh ok about 10% , that happens in states too, but here they plain blank dont accept cards and even have atm in their restaurants..

 

[sweep_shot]

I voted for Liberals last time. I think Liberals didn't do a good job. Trudeau was disappointing.

Having said that, I don't think there is a good alternative. I may not vote this time.

 

[Realromeo]

I voted for Liberals last time. I think Liberals didn't do a good job. Trudeau was disappointing.

Having said that, I don't think there is a good alternative. I may not vote this time.

Same disappointed in Trudeau, I think Conservative learned their lesson and leaned away from Steven Harper style of racist government.

 

[Realromeo]

Oh ok about 10% , that happens in states too, but here they plain blank dont accept cards and even have atm in their restaurants..

GT20 in Brampton, should be fun lol. Probably cheaper to take Uber than paying for parking.

 

[sweep_shot]

Same disappointed in Trudeau, I think Conservative learned their lesson and leaned away from Steven Harper style of racist government.

If conservatives become friendly with Muslims, I can vote for conservatives. A lot of my values align with conservative party's values.

 

[Realromeo]

If conservatives become friendly with Muslims, I can vote for conservatives. A lot of my values align with conservative party's values.

Not just you, most of the South Asian beliefs fall with conservatives lol. Conservatives and South Asians are both backwards. I'd call myself a left leaning moderate, but this boy Justin took it too far man.

 

[JaDed]

GT20 in Brampton, should be fun lol. Probably cheaper to take Uber than paying for parking.

Should welcome em with Bhangra, might become official dance of Canada soon.

 

[ahsan17]

Most of my friends are planning to vote for the one of the two left wing party that is leading in their district.

 

[sweep_shot]

Here are my stances:

I oppose LGBTQ lifestyle.
I am anti-abortion.
I am fiscally conservative. I don't like debt.
I am pro-environment.
I support merit-based immigration.
I support death penalty for certain crimes.
I support deportations of violent criminals.
I support free healthcare and free education.
I support withdrawal from all wars.

Any party that implements these gets my vote.

 

[Realromeo]

Here are my stances:

I oppose LGBTQ lifestyle.
I am anti-abortion.
I am fiscally conservative. I don't like debt.
I am pro-environment.
I support merit-based immigration.
I support death penalty for certain crimes.
I support deportations of violent criminals.
I support free healthcare and free education.
I support withdrawal from all wars.

Any party that implements these gets my vote.

You oppose LGBTQ lifestyle ? You can't oppose what is a right. Why is it bothering you ? LOL.

You seem to be a moderate leaning right which is pretty much what the Conservatives are. But Conservatives will never be "friendly with Muslims" as that will lead to losing votes. Liberals are some waht friendly with Muslims, but they too maintain distance when comparing to the way how they get along with other minority groups.

 

[sweep_shot]

You oppose LGBTQ lifestyle ? You can't oppose what is a right. Why is it bothering you ? LOL.

You seem to be a moderate leaning right which is pretty much what the Conservatives are. But Conservatives will never be "friendly with Muslims" as that will lead to losing votes. Liberals are some waht friendly with Muslims, but they too maintain distance when comparing to the way how they get along with other minority groups.

I oppose LGBTQ lifestyle for two reasons - 1) it is against my faith, and 2) it is disgusting and abnormal.

I have always been a conservative man in my life but I voted Liberals last time due to bigger picture. I am not sure if I will vote Liberals this time; I may vote for Green.

 

[Realromeo]

I oppose LGBTQ lifestyle for two reasons - 1) it is against my faith, and 2) it is disgusting and abnormal.

I have always been a conservative man in my life but I voted Liberals last time due to bigger picture. I am not sure if I will vote Liberals this time; I may vote for Green.

You want immigration through Merit, do you understand that you'd probably wouldn't make it considering your backward views and hatred ? Do you understand why Conservative and Liberals are both hesitant to appear to support the Muslim community ? Think about the negative impact on their party? At least now you should understand the politicial reasoning behind Politcial decisions. Should Canadians be concerned that you have a anti views towards people of different sexuality and practice a religion that doesn't agree with modern Canadian life style ?

 

[sweep_shot]

You want immigration through Merit, do you understand that you'd probably wouldn't make it considering your backward views and hatred ? Do you understand why Conservative and Liberals are both hesitant to appear to support the Muslim community ? Think about the negative impact on their party? At least now you should understand the politicial reasoning behind Politcial decisions. Should Canadians be concerned that you have a anti views towards people of different sexuality and practice a religion that doesn't agree with modern Canadian life style ?

Many Christian Canadians are also against LGBTQ. Not sure what you mean by this comment.

By merit-based, I mean someone who is qualified. My family came here legally and with sufficient qualifications. Views don't matter. I don't say these things in real life but I have a right to have these views internally.

 

[ahsan17]

Canada will not criminalize LGBTQ, abortion, and enact death penalty. These are some of the core Canadian values, even if a small minority of Canadians are against this.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Surely the left leaning vote is going to be split among the Liberals/NDP/Greens whereas most of the right leaning votes will go to the Conservatives and therefore hand them victory? Any chance of a pre-poll alliance among the left?

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

 

[sweep_shot]

Conservatives are currently leading in poll. It is very likely that Liberals will lose this time and Conservatives will come to power. Let's see what happens.

 

[ahsan17]

Surely the left leaning vote is going to be split among the Liberals/NDP/Greens whereas most of the right leaning votes will go to the Conservatives and therefore hand them victory? Any chance of a pre-poll alliance among the left?

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

Last elections the left voters voted strategically, i.e. they voted for whichever candidate from Liberal or NDP was leading. That's why conservatives got trounced and Liberals won a supermajority, despite only getting 40% of the vote. That possibility can't be discounted.

 

[sweep_shot]

Last elections the left voters voted strategically, i.e. they voted for whichever candidate from Liberal or NDP was leading. That's why conservatives got trounced and Liberals won a supermajority, despite only getting 40% of the vote. That possibility can't be discounted.

I remember that. Many NDP voters voted for Liberals once they realized NDP were not going to win. They were so angry at Harper that they voted for Liberals just to vote him out.

 

[Chokli]

Got to be the Cons, that carbon tax has got to go. We don't need more taxes.

 

[sweep_shot]

After trailing for a few months behind Conservatives, Liberals are now starting to make a comeback. They have gotten slightly ahead of Conservatives recently.

Source: https://vancouversun.com/news/local...as-slight-edge-ahead-of-federal-election-poll.

 

[Savak]

After trailing for a few months behind Conservatives, Liberals are now starting to make a comeback. They have gotten slightly ahead of Conservatives recently.

Source: https://vancouversun.com/news/local...as-slight-edge-ahead-of-federal-election-poll.

Doug Ford with his policies and actions in Ontario has really hurt the Conservatives

 

[sweep_shot]

Doug Ford with his policies and actions in Ontario has really hurt the Conservatives

You are correct. Doug Ford made a lot of cuts and that didn't go well with the people.

Liberals can win this again provided they don't get themselves into another scandal.

 

[Savak]

You are correct. Doug Ford made a lot of cuts and that didn't go well with the people.

Liberals can win this again provided they don't get themselves into another scandal.

I personally like Justin Trudeau, the guy has a real following among the youth but the Liberals with their taxes and minimum wages have really hurt the small business owners, business and salaried folks. It's about choosing the lesser of the two evils for the desis right now

 

[JaDed]

You are correct. Doug Ford made a lot of cuts and that didn't go well with the people.

Liberals can win this again provided they don't get themselves into another scandal.

They made him go on leave ,absolute dimwit, Canada day celebrations were cancelled with a flimsy reason just because he didn’t want to be booed.

 

[sweep_shot]

I personally like Justin Trudeau, the guy has a real following among the youth but the Liberals with their taxes and minimum wages have really hurt the small business owners, business and salaried folks. It's about choosing the lesser of the two evils for the desis right now

Yes. His policies are not perfect but he is the lesser of the two evils. That's why I voted for him last time even though I do not consider myself as a liberal.

Increase in minimum wage means that price of everything goes up too. I wish they would lower minimum wage back to what it was 5 years ago. It was not horribly low; increasing it was a bad idea.

 

[sweep_shot]

They made him go on leave ,absolute dimwit, Canada day celebrations were cancelled with a flimsy reason just because he didn’t want to be booed.

Yes. He gets angry quite easily. He needs a thick skin to be a successful politician.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Looks like it's still neck and neck in the opinion polls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_Canadian_federal_election#National_polls

 

[CanadianG00se]

Trudeau has destroyed Canada with his extreme left policies. Can’t wait to kick him out in October. Every tom, dick and harry ends up in Canada these day. Gone are the days when educated and sensible immigration mattered.

Voting Conservatives later this year.

You just said the exact things I wanted too. Trudeau is good person but equally horrible leader. Not always good humanitarian makes good leader. His Syrian refugees policy was basically a KO punch to his short political career. Lot of co workers and friends I know in GTA are absolutely hating him for this

 

[CanadianG00se]

Voting for Conservative.

I just hope they can curb the cash jobs specially done by International students in order to pay their fees. I wouldn’t mind if Canada scratches the work permit all together, which would encourage only those students to come to Canada who can afford it. I know so many international students come here only to seek cash jobs and pay their fees, causing economic downturn.
As someone mentioned above, how will Government provides free healthcare if they won’t be getting enough taxes. Already we are seeing Dough Ford reducing education budget. Maybe HealthCare is Next?

 

[sweep_shot]

Voting for Conservative.

I just hope they can curb the cash jobs specially done by International students in order to pay their fees. I wouldn’t mind if Canada scratches the work permit all together, which would encourage only those students to come to Canada who can afford it. I know so many international students come here only to seek cash jobs and pay their fees, causing economic downturn.
As someone mentioned above, how will Government provides free healthcare if they won’t be getting enough taxes. Already we are seeing Dough Ford reducing education budget. Maybe HealthCare is Next?

These international students shouldn't be allowed to work. They are taking away jobs from citizens and permanent residents.

International students should have enough money to cover their expenses. They shouldn't take jobs here.

Here is the election poll tracker: https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/.

 

[sweep_shot]

I must say that I am tempted to vote Conservatives this time. I haven't decided yet.

I voted for Trudeau last time but I think some of his policies are not good for Canada.

 

[kk1992]

I believe it will be conservative.

 

[CanadianG00se]

These international students shouldn't be allowed to work. They are taking away jobs from citizens and permanent residents.

International students should have enough money to cover their expenses. They shouldn't take jobs here.

Here is the election poll tracker: https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/.

My point exactly. They should follow US way and scrap the work permit issued to International student. Some of the International students I know work 40+ hours of Uber and Lyft to earn money when they are legally only allowed to work 20 or less hours.


I was pro Liberal and last election I was rooting for them, but now I really wish they are thrown out.

 

[ahsan17]

Sounds very similar to the overly simplistic logic and falsehoods Trump supporters use to justify no immigration. International students are primarily doing jobs that no or very few people want to do. You think Canadian citizens and PR are lining up and missing out on working for a pizza shop or Walmart? These are the kind of jobs the international students usually do.

As for 20+ hours, their income gets reported to CRA, and CRA along with CIC is quite strict on this issue. If it's happening in a few cases, it does not mean it's widespread and rest assured anyone going over 20 hours will get in a lot of trouble. This sounds similar to Trump using a few muslims to justify his muslim ban.

 

[sweep_shot]

Sounds very similar to the overly simplistic logic and falsehoods Trump supporters use to justify no immigration. International students are primarily doing jobs that no or very few people want to do. You think Canadian citizens and PR are lining up and missing out on working for a pizza shop or Walmart? These are the kind of jobs the international students usually do.

As for 20+ hours, their income gets reported to CRA, and CRA along with CIC is quite strict on this issue. If it's happening in a few cases, it does not mean it's widespread and rest assured anyone going over 20 hours will get in a lot of trouble. This sounds similar to Trump using a few muslims to justify his muslim ban.

Many unemployed domestic students would love to work in restaurants/Walmart. Those jobs are not that terrible. I have done those jobs during my college days. It is better to work in Walmart than to have no job.

I do not know if you are in GTA, but international students are eating up many jobs over here. There are many local college students (including visible minority citizens) with no jobs while these international students have jobs.

International students should come here to study only. They should cover all costs with their own savings.

 

[faraz39]

The universities want the international students because they bring in much needed cash to the system so they lobby for it with the government. If the Conservatives win, they will simply slash education and healthcare and then we will all complain about higher tuition fees. Plus they will go after minorities again. It is in their DNA. They are hiding it now but it will surface after they win.

 

[JaDed]

The universities want the international students because they bring in much needed cash to the system so they lobby for it with the government. If the Conservatives win, they will simply slash education and healthcare and then we will all complain about higher tuition fees. Plus they will go after minorities again. It is in their DNA. They are hiding it now but it will surface after they win.

Minorities should join Conservatives and change it from within.

The problem with conservatives is they mostly do a ‘yes-sir’ to USA.

For Canada to remain among top countries, it needs to put a check on proper immigration(too relaxed right now) also colleges force upon 20 hr rule and have some sort of min attendance check or credit required each semester and penalize shady colleges.

In all honesty Trudeau has learnt from his mistakes and has done well in past year, leaders who learn from their mistakes are worth investing in, but can he save himself from initial issues?

Small business are feeling a lot of heat, he needs to show them certain leniency and create somewhat business friendly env.

Canada has all the systems in place this should be easy with some planning and discussion.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Five things to know about Canada's general election <a href="https://t.co/U0ejiZhdIv">https://t.co/U0ejiZhdIv</a></p>— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1171798129479495680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[CanadianG00se]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Five things to know about Canada's general election <a href="https://t.co/U0ejiZhdIv">https://t.co/U0ejiZhdIv</a></p>— BBC News (World) (@BBCWorld) <a href="https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1171798129479495680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

OOO HELL NOO

CANADIANS AINT GIVING SECOND CHANCE TO THIS GOOD FOR NOTHING PM OF OURS.

Cant wait for his term to be over.

 

[nextover666666]

I haven't decided yet but will be either the liberals or ndp

 

[Pakistanian]

If you're a Canadian minority especially if you're Brown and/or a Muslim and choose to vote Conservative then you should hang your head in shame.

 

[sweep_shot]

If you're a Canadian minority especially if you're Brown and/or a Muslim and choose to vote Conservative then you should hang your head in shame.

Our Conservative Party is not extreme like USA's Republican Party (not yet at least). It is pretty much a liberal conservative party currently.

Liberals are good with certain things but also horrible with certain things. For instance, crime in Toronto increased under Liberal watch. Also, they go overboard with marijuana legislation and LGBT rights.

I am still a registered Liberal but I am certainly checking other options. There is a possibility I may end up voting for a different party (not necessarily Conservatives).

As of now, Liberals and Conservatives are tied in the poll. Very tight.

 

[Pakistanian]

Our Conservative Party is not extreme like USA's Republican Party (not yet at least). It is pretty much a liberal conservative party currently.

lmaoo this is such a flawed way of looking at things, just cause they're not "as bad" the current Republican party doesn't mean they're better by much. Even the old Pre-Trump Republican party is better by what we have now but that doesn't say much because the GOP has been a party of racists and Neo-cons. Conservative parties in the west always have drawn closet racists and people with white nationalists, while the Canadian tories may be fiscally liberally and can not tamper with Canada's liberal constitution, they are indeed socially "conservative" and held racist and anti-immigrant views for a very long time. Even thinking of supporting them just shows your ignorance, any well-meaning minority voting for a right-wing political party is seriously out of touch.

 

[Shah]

Conservatives are racist and anti-immigrant. Conservative leaders like Scheer, Harper, Kenney and Ford are white supremacists and anti-Muslim. Liberals and Trudeau are decent and more accepting of minorities. Will always vote Liberal.

 

[sweep_shot]

lmaoo this is such a flawed way of looking at things, just cause they're not "as bad" the current Republican party doesn't mean they're better by much. Even the old Pre-Trump Republican party is better by what we have now but that doesn't say much because the GOP has been a party of racists and Neo-cons. Conservative parties in the west always have drawn closet racists and people with white nationalists, while the Canadian tories may be fiscally liberally and can not tamper with Canada's liberal constitution, they are indeed socially "conservative" and held racist and anti-immigrant views for a very long time. Even thinking of supporting them just shows your ignorance, any well-meaning minority voting for a right-wing political party is seriously out of touch.

You are generalizing. Not all Conservatives are racists. Racist ones live in Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba. Conservatives in my city (Toronto) are not bad. I have worked/studied with many.

Also, many of my values are pretty conservative in nature. I don't support LGBT movement, for example. I also don't support legalization of marijuana.

 

[JaDed]

Our Conservative Party is not extreme like USA's Republican Party (not yet at least). It is pretty much a liberal conservative party currently.

Liberals are good with certain things but also horrible with certain things. For instance, crime in Toronto increased under Liberal watch. Also, they go overboard with marijuana legislation and LGBT rights.

I am still a registered Liberal but I am certainly checking other options. There is a possibility I may end up voting for a different party (not necessarily Conservatives).

As of now, Liberals and Conservatives are tied in the poll. Very tight.

Marijuana legislation and LBGT rights are an issue!?

 

[sweep_shot]

I will probably not vote Conservatives. It was just a consideration.

It is likely I will go for Liberal again or NDP.

 

[Realromeo]

I'm voting for PPC. Tired of stupid immigrants from brown countries. NO MORE IMMGIRANTS !!!

 

[faraz39]

This is the same level of short sightedness that lead to minorities voting for Brexit. The Conservatives WILL turn on minorities sooner or later. They already have closeted Nazis and white supremacists in their party. I live in AB and the Conservatives are based out of this region. The party is a white boys club who has no interest in a multicultural Canada.

I wish we had someone smarter leading the Liberals but no one right now is worse than Scheer.

 

[sweep_shot]

So, October finally comes. In about 20 days, Canada should know who the next Prime Minister is.

Early voting begins on October 11.

After much consideration, I have decided to vote Liberals again.

 

[ReverseHit]

I'm haven't really decided who I'm going to vote for between the Conservatives and Liberals. JT has been more theatrics than action. Definitely not voting for the Khalistani extremist from the NDP.

As an overseas non-resident Canadian, I obviously don't have much skin in the game in the moment. But I do care about the long-term direction of the country, in case I do decide to move back there.

 

[sweep_shot]

I'm haven't really decided who I'm going to vote for between the Conservatives and Liberals. JT has been more theatrics than action. Definitely not voting for the Khalistani extremist from the NDP.

As an overseas non-resident Canadian, I obviously don't have much skin in the game in the moment. But I do care about the long-term direction of the country, in case I do decide to move back there.

To be perfectly honest with you, all three candidates are bad candidates. It is a shame there is not a single proper leader this time.

Trudeau seems like the lesser of the two evils. Jagmeet is irrelevant because NDP never wins.

 

[ReverseHit]

To be perfectly honest with you, all three candidates are bad candidates. It is a shame there is not a single proper leader this time.

Trudeau seems like the lesser of the two evils. Jagmeet is irrelevant because NDP never wins.

I agree. At least last time JT presented himself as a refreshing new option against Harper. This time I barely know much about the challenger, Andrew Scheer. The incumbent hasn't been convincing enough either.

Still got a few days to go though - time to start researching and comparing election promises between the two parties.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Election date is approaching so fast and still unclear about who is going to win the upcoming elections. As of now, Cbc have both Conservative and Liberals around 33-34%. I personally think Liberals might edge it as they have huge following in Ontario and Quebec which makes up more than 50% of the national seats.

This is how it looks like so far.
Conservative looks dominant in West and Praires
Liberals Dominant in Ontario and Quebec
NDP might win few seats in Southern BC and Brampton
Green might win some in BC and atlantic
PPC might surprise everyone.

Overall, Trudeau might be re-elected.

Just got the voting card, now waiting for 21st

 

[Pakistanian]

Election date is approaching so fast and still unclear about who is going to win the upcoming elections. As of now, Cbc have both Conservative and Liberals around 33-34%. I personally think Liberals might edge it as they have huge following in Ontario and Quebec which makes up more than 50% of the national seats.

This is how it looks like so far.
Conservative looks dominant in West and Praires
Liberals Dominant in Ontario and Quebec
NDP might win few seats in Southern BC and Brampton
Green might win some in BC and atlantic
PPC might surprise everyone.

Overall, Trudeau might be re-elected.

Just got the voting card, now waiting for 21st

I thought Quebec-centric parties were more dominant in Quebec.

 

[Pakistanian]

I'm voting for PPC. Tired of stupid immigrants from brown countries. NO MORE IMMGIRANTS !!!

Will they bleach your skin for you?