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Funniest bit is that some are claiming any country can achieve it provided they are willing to spend $74 million, including Saudi ArabiaAstounding how sour some Pakistanis are about India's achievement. I bet like USA India will also soon enter space travel industry.. Some big money to be made.
Buying other people’s technology and using it does not count. Not does catching a ride on someone else’s rocket. . I would like to come back to this thread in 10 years and see what kinda other markets this opened for India .Funniest bit is that some are claiming any country can achieve it provided they are willing to spend $74 million, including Saudi Arabia
Astounding how sour some Pakistanis are about India's achievement. I bet like USA India will also soon enter space travel industry.. Some big money to be made.
Funniest bit is that some are claiming any country can achieve it provided they are willing to spend $74 million, including Saudi Arabia
No, they are not. Neither are the Jews. Anyways, I don’t care about religion of other people.Saudis are your Abrahamic brothers my Christian friend. Don't forget.
Yes and your pointAren't you a Pakistani?
Yes and your point
No, they are not. Neither are the Jews. Anyways, I don’t care about religion of other people.
I’m a champion of my country irrespective of it’s Government.But you are a champion of your hindutva govt which has made the Hindu religion it's founding principle.
I’m a champion of my country irrespective of it’s Government.
Your govt is hindutva, that is a clear and acknowledged fact. If you champion them that makes you one.
Trillions??? Bro we could colonize mars if we had that kind of a budget. The mission budget was half the budget of an avengers movie.I find it difficult to justify spending trillions on endeavours like this when there is a massive poverty.
Simply put, as more people in India turnt to science and reason, the less likely we will have radical right wing governments.As a Pakistani, what do you believe Pakistan will gain from India celebrating this achievement on a Pakistan based site while led by a hindutva govt which wants to see the demise of Pakistan?
Any kind of jingoistic fervor is harmful. The problem with Hindutva is the Sam problem with America for Whites, or Israel for Jews, or Saudi Arabia for Muslims. Emphasizing a majority will come at the expense of the minority and that gives us totalitarian states as history would demonstrate.What is the meaning of Hindutva?
What's your problem with it?
And why do you think what you say will become the fact?
Government is the government of all the citizens. Thats it.
Even then its too much for such an endeavour.Trillions??? Bro we could colonize mars if we had that kind of a budget. The mission budget was half the budget of an avengers movie.
Then you are gonna really hate the $45M we just dropped on a solar mission, in route to the L1 Lagrange point as we speakEven then its too much for such an endeavour.
So Christians in India are supposed to hate Modi and BJP by default? It doesn’t work like that.Your govt is hindutva, that is a clear and acknowledged fact. If you champion them that makes you one.
Are they supposed to hate Abrahmic religions by default on account of being born in a Hindu country instead? Is that how it works?So Christians in India are supposed to hate Modi and BJP by default? It doesn’t work like that.
We’ve got nothing to do with people outside our own country. The only thing we share in common with them is humanity, nothing else. Indian muslims are extremely precious to us, always will be. But we don’t share the same bond with non Indian muslims.Are they supposed to hate Abrahmic religions by default on account of being born in a Hindu country instead? Is that how it works?
We’ve got nothing to do with people outside our own country. The only thing we share in common with them is humanity, nothing else. Indian muslims are extremely precious to us, always will be. But we don’t share the same bond with non Indian muslims.
Maybe you should pen down YOUR OWN understanding of what constitutes as "Hindutva Doctrine" first and Indian posters can address it ?Isn't this basically hindutva doctrine?
Maybe you should pen down YOUR OWN understanding of what constitutes as "Hindutva Doctrine" first and Indian posters can address it ?
PS: This is a genuine question. I personally wont judge you regardless of what your perception/understanding is on this topic of Hindutva but I 'am pretty sure (based on previous threads) that you will quietly slip away or deflect from this topic. but rest assured I will answer every single question you have got. Just keep it short in the interest of time.
And since the topic of Hindutva is off-topic to this thread which is meant for Chandrayan .. please feel free to either open a new thread or tag/quote me in a more appropriate thread.
Damn! Translation, " We have to pretend to like Indian Muslim to preserve our image but, the Muslims in the rest of the world are hated by Indian, even humanity is not shared".We’ve got nothing to do with people outside our own country. The only thing we share in common with them is humanity, nothing else. Indian muslims are extremely precious to us, always will be. But we don’t share the same bond with non Indian muslims.
there is no need to pretend. You may not realize it, but most Indians grow up with Muslim and Christian Neighbours or friends in school and their neighborhood. They hardly see any difference apart from praying to a different god, which is not a big deal for Hindus, as we pray to innumerable Gods. There are clearly lots of cultural and religious difference like different festivals and such. Most people invite each other. Almost all my Muslims and Chirstian Neighbours were invited for our deepavali (diwali) and ganesha festivals. Most don't pray, but they come, socialize, have fun and take food and go. We are also invited for lunch and if we are non - vegetarians they stay for great biryanis. A lot of people, even Hindus and those who were in convents, keep Christmas decorations and visit church. Three of my cousins were convent educated and are involved in local churches and no one forces them to get converted and they have no intention of getting converted. It may be difficult to fathom for you, but most people have absolutely no problems with Muslims or Christians. Otherwise, there will be a bloodbath every day in India. There are more issues between Shias and Sunnis in Pakistan than between Hindu and Muslims in India. When was the last time you heard Shia mosque bombing in India.Damn! Translation, " We have to pretend to like Indian Muslim to preserve our image but, the Muslims in the rest of the world are hated by Indian, even humanity is not shared".
Another cliché response from Indian. As if Muslims of India are not tortured, murdered, raped, humiliated, etc. The news regarding such issues just appear out of thin air with video and audio evidence, must be AI generated?there is no need to pretend. You may not realize it, but most Indians grow up with Muslim and Christian Neighbours or friends in school and their neighborhood. They hardly see any difference apart from praying to a different god, which is not a big deal for Hindus, as we pray to innumerable Gods. There are clearly lots of cultural and religious difference like different festivals and such. Most people invite each other. Almost all my Muslims and Chirstian Neighbours were invited for our deepavali (diwali) and ganesha festivals. Most don't pray, but they come, socialize, have fun and take food and go. We are also invited for lunch and if we are non - vegetarians they stay for great biryanis. A lot of people, even Hindus and those who were in convents, keep Christmas decorations and visit church. Three of my cousins were convent educated and are involved in local churches and no one forces them to get converted and they have no intention of getting converted. It may be difficult to fathom for you, but most people have absolutely no problems with Muslims or Christians. Otherwise, there will be a bloodbath every day in India. There are more issues between Shias and Sunnis in Pakistan than between Hindu and Muslims in India. When was the last time you heard Shia mosque bombing in India.
Anyway lets stick to the topic of this thread and lay off these side discussions..
It is an achievement.Can we please stick to the topic of space missions and progress in science/technology instead of digressing into pointless Hindutva meanings and pointless validation of christian/muslim/hindu Indians? Just a public request.
Another cliché response from Indian. As if Muslims of India are not tortured, murdered, raped, humiliated, etc. The news regarding such issues just appear out of thin air with video and audio evidence, must be AI generated?
I have plenty of shia friends but Shia and Sunni conflict has had happened in Pakistan may happen again. There are plenty of Shia on good posts in Pakistan, none of that negate the fact that the conflict does not happen. lol.
Responses such as yours are rather waste of time for the readers, it does not negate nor counter anything regarding plight of Indian Muslims.
Person I responded to mentioned the word 'Muslim', specifically Indian 'Muslims' and in the same breath he tried to distance himself from the rest of the Muslims, while highlighting Indian as champions of Humanity. So either the readers are fool to believe or person can not come out in open to display dislike and hatred openly.
It is an achievement.
Any achievement of India will be overshadowed by how Indian majority treats its minority, particularly in a Muslim dominated forum, both reaching the moon and treating its minority is a reality for everyone. It is a matter of time before the treatment of minority will be highlighted and weaponized by the western world
for people who have never lived in a multicultural or multi religious society it's a cliche. They can't understand and comprehend it. For people like us it is a lived experienceAnother cliché response from Indian. As if Muslims of India are not tortured, murdered, raped, humiliated, etc. The news regarding such issues just appear out of thin air with video and audio evidence, must be AI generated?
I have plenty of shia friends but Shia and Sunni conflict has had happened in Pakistan may happen again. There are plenty of Shia on good posts in Pakistan, none of that negate the fact that the conflict does not happen. lol.
Responses such as yours are rather waste of time for the readers, it does not negate nor counter anything regarding plight of Indian Muslims.
Person I responded to mentioned the word 'Muslim', specifically Indian 'Muslims' and in the same breath he tried to distance himself from the rest of the Muslims, while highlighting Indian as champions of Humanity. So either the readers are fool to believe or person can not come out in open to display dislike and hatred openly.
Any progress on this mission?Chandrayaan-3: Hopes of Moon lander reawakening dim as India awaits signal
Chances of India's Moon lander waking up after a freezing cold lunar night are "dimming with each passing hour", space scientists from the country have told the BBC.
But they said that they would keep trying until the end of the lunar day.
A day and night on the Moon each last just over 14 Earth days.
On Friday, space agency Isro said it was trying to contact the lander and rover after a new lunar day began, but had not received any signals.
The lander called Vikram, carrying the Pragyaan rover in its belly, touched down near the Moon's little-explored south pole in August. They spent two weeks gathering data and images, after which they were put into 'sleep mode' at lunar nightfall.
The Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) had said that it hoped the batteries would recharge and the modules would reawaken when the lunar Sun rose around 22 September.
On Friday, Isro posted on X (formerly Twitter) that "efforts to establish communication with the Vikram lander and Pragyaan rover will continue". There has been no official update since then.
On Monday morning, former Isro chief AS Kiran Kumar told the BBC that "chances of reawakening are dimming with each passing hour".
"The lander and rover have so many components which may not have survived the frigid temperatures on the Moon," he said, adding that temperatures near the lunar south pole are known to plunge to -200C to -250C (-328F to -418F) at night.
"Unless the transmitter on the lander comes on, we have no connectivity. It has to tell us that it's alive. Even if all other sub-systems work, we have no way of knowing that," he added.
Chandrayaan-3: Hopes of Moon lander reawakening dim as India awaits signal
Scientists tell the BBC that chances of the lander's reawakening are "dimming with each passing hour".www.bbc.com
No! ISRO knew the rover wouldn't escape the cold lunar night. They were just hoping against hope. Their primary objective and works have been achieved already.Any progress on this mission?
Mission is over. Nothing more can be done now. Lander has completed the tasks given to it. In case ISRO plans another such mission then i hope it takes cue from Luna 25 and add radioactive plutonium-238 , so it might survive Lunar night.Any progress on this mission?
How is this news related to this thread about India’s moon mission?Namira Saleem from Pakistan will make history by becoming the first Pakistani woman to travel to space.
He paid $200,000 to buy a ticket for space travel in 2006, and now its current price is $450,000.
Source: Dawn News
The comparison of PIA is Air India and they have been privatised. SUPARCO Is ISRO’s competitor and they are a joke.This is quite an impresive feat, meantime we can't even get PIA to operate
It’s time for greater private investments in ISRO. They have done a great job over the decades but they cannot compete with Space X and all in the future with a government entity mindset.
It will be hard but its ok. There are no extra brownie points in being the first. We can mimic the proven technology of space X on our own pace. There is a going to be a inflection point at what the innovation of Space X.No one can compete with Space X, what Space X did during the weekend is literally from sci fi.
No one can compete with Space X, what Space X did during the weekend is literally from sci fi.
It’s not just about the money, Space X gets to hire the best minds, only Chinese can come close with the money and mind and even they are finding it so hard to compete with Space X.It is exactly why we must think of the big leap. As proud as we are of ISRO, it will soon seem nothing in front of what Space X will be doing. Why cannot Ambani, Adani, Tata jump in to take the baton from ISRO. This is the moment for that transition. We have the talent and the funding, all we need is a visionary billionaire to take it ahead.
100% no one can compete with Space X. They just caught a freaking booster weghing 280 tons and as high as a 20 story building out of thin air. But ISRO doesn't have to be number one. It just has to do what is needed for Indian needs. Self-sufficiency in space is important for national security.No one can compete with Space X, what Space X did during the weekend is literally from sci fi.
Physics and maths of Rocket tech that Spece X is testing has been well known for decades. But it was always too costly and risky to to test. They are making it easier for the rest of the world by proving untested concepts.100% no one can compete with Space X. They just caught a freaking booster weghing 280 tons and as high as a 20 story building out of thin air. But ISRO doesn't have to be number one. It just has to do what is needed for Indian needs. Self-sufficiency in space is important for national security.
That's not happening.SpaceX wants to take all the business of NASA & European space agency eventually. Billions of dollars worth business. Ultimately they can monopolize all space travel. Can’t let them do that.
That's not happening.
Elon Musk is too provocative and fickle as an owner. US govt will never let an "African-American" have so much control over such a vital sector. They will always keep Bezos and Boeing interested to have competition from the vendors.
Europe doesnt like Musk anyways. Chinese will try to steal SpaceX tech. not sure about Japan. Rest of the world doesnt matter so far.
We are lagging behind in space tech from what was projected in 2000s, hopefully private players will be allowed in a serious fashion.
I trust Mahindras and Tatas to some extent. Ambani and Adani are mostly Lala companies.That’s why we need our billionaires to get into this.
Yup, I see Ambani Adani being into Lithium Mines or Hydrogen fuel than have R&D for space.I trust Mahindras and Tatas to some extent. Ambani and Adani are mostly Lala companies.
Yes Physics and Math are well known. But some of the audacious feats they are trying is unbelievable. More importantly they have cash flow not just from backers but also SpaceX side business StarLink. Starlink is well on its way to make billions allowing free cash flow for all the crazy thing they want to doPhysics and maths of Rocket tech that Spece X is testing has been well known for decades. But it was always too costly and risky to to test. They are making it easier for the rest of the world by proving untested concepts.
Starship is trying the utterly failed monster N-1 Rocket of Soviet Union. It was literally thrown in bin. I am still not that confident that can overcome the fundamental issues of Starship design. It will be amazing feat of engineering to sync 30+ engines with so much precision for inter-planetary travel.