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itduzz said:Pujara got owned by Anwar Ali in U19 WC.... )
looks like another FTB in the making...
lollol said:Good luck to get in the team I dont think he'll get a chance, unless one of the batsmen gets injured.
Exactly my thoughts. For me, the Dravid who once averaged >60 has long gone. He has been owned by every newbie debutant bowler... I think his days were numbered, and he either had to retire or get some batting form in domestic.IronMan2009 said:Dravid scored a 100 and complicated things issed: .
Dravid never averaged above 60. The highest he have gone is 58.75lollol said:Exactly my thoughts. For me, the Dravid who once averaged >60 has long gone. He has been owned by every newbie debutant bowler... I think his days were numbered, and he either had to retire or get some batting form in domestic.
However, as u already said, his 100 really made this more complicated.
bdchamp20 said:How come he wasn't picked ahead of that Chennai guy?
bublubhuyan said:Dravid never averaged above 60. The highest he have gone is 58.75
Depends on who you mean. There are two Chennai guys Murali Vijay and Badrinath. Murali Vijay is mainly an opener and would have to wait for either Gambhir or Sehwag to get injured or change into a #3 batsman.bdchamp20 said:How come he wasn't picked ahead of that Chennai guy?
IAJ said:With the amount of talent India have today, they can easily put together at least 3 very good international teams ( playing on sub-continent wickets of course)
Random Aussie said:So long as they don't have to bowl...
IronMan2009 said:You don't mean India has no bowling resources do you? . India actually has a good pool bowling resources as well.
Two promising leggies. Mishra and Piyush. I don't know about this parmer guy who has similar action like Murali. He has taken 52 wickets in 11 matches this year. People rate him high. Ravindra Jadeja who is an all rounder picking 42 wickets this year. Then there is Ojha, Ashwin, Powar.
In the pace department Dhawal kulkarni is rising fast. So is Trivedi. Praveen is a good medium pacer who can swing both ways. Infact you probably saw a bit of him CB finals where he troubled Australian top order with swing. Then the usual suspects Ishant, Munaf, Irfan, Sreesanth, Zak. Another good news is Balaji is doing a fantastic job on his return.
Random Aussie said:India have some decent bowling resources but nothing like the batting resources. Don't forget the international Indian bowlers still fail to average less than 30. For once I am not bagging India but the quality of India's batsmen is a lot higher than the bowling.
bublubhuyan said:I've maintained from the first day that he is another Cars112, in terms of maturity level.
as far as i see it the likely candidates in future are*sallu* said:How about Murali Vijay?
Hes been a maniac the last 2 seasons as well.
Scored 148 in the match currently going on and should be playing at either the opening or number 3 spot for India
JeeraBlade said:This is the same guy who had no clue where Anwar Ali's ball came from and where it went;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=78393
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/237829.html
yes but after he was the top scorer at that wc with avg of 100+JeeraBlade said:This is the same guy who had no clue where Anwar Ali's ball came from and where it went;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=78393
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/237829.html
JeeraBlade said:This is the same guy who had no clue where Anwar Ali's ball came from and where it went;
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=78393
http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/237829.html
pun500 said:yes but after he was the top scorer at that wc with avg of 100+
pun500 said:what has anwar ali done after that?
pun500 said:yes but after he was the top scorer at that wc with avg of 100+
what has anwar ali done after that?
JeeraBlade said:Yes, he did bat like a guy is form with an ave of 100+ in the that match -- since that was the last match of the tournament.
Plus did 100+ average matter at all?
Deal with Aamir first then talk Anwar.
pun500 said:oh yeah just saw the video (pujara was the second one who was out .. ball hit him outside the line while playing a shot)
from your clip
ouch that hurt didnt it ..JeeraBlade said:Yes, he did bat like a guy is form with an ave of 100+ in the that match -- since that was the last match of the tournament.
Plus did 100+ average matter at all?
Deal with Aamir first then talk Anwar.
funny considering an indian didnt make this statementJeeraBlade said:Sorry -- my bad. Should have known. Steve Bucknor was the umpire. These damn umpires always spoil things for India.
OZGOD/Random Aussie: Can I borrow your line?
"Indian phir ........."
good news for pakistan. Especially for all them decisions that go against pakistan.
Pujara failed against a decent bowler like Anwer Ali but he's been eating away at all the Indian bowlers at FC level, and quite frankly that doesn't say much given the statue of Indian bowling. . Let's see what he'll do against a half-decent bowler like Anwer Ali.pun500 said:ouch that hurt didnt it ..
point being even bradman got a duck so? that makes him crap according to your logic.
(note : this is not to say pujara is the next bradman .. the only pt is he is a much better bat than the yuvi who is in our test line up)
Afridi_Fan said:Pun500 for Indian selector?
Anyone?
No as much as seeing 100+ ave bastman going 2nd ball chasing 109 in WC final.pun500 said:ouch that hurt didnt it ..
Did I say, he was crap?pun500 said:point being even bradman got a duck so? that makes him crap according to your logic.
pun500 said:(note : this is not to say pujara is the next bradman .. the only pt is he is a much better bat than the yuvi who is in our test line up)
same bowlers against whom the yuvi , gambhir , sehwag made runs. even lax , tendulkar ,ganguly dravid made runs on the same pitches against same bowlersInswinger said:Pujara failed against a decent bowler like Anwer Ali but he's been eating away at all the Indian bowlers at FC level, and quite frankly that doesn't say much given the statue of Indian bowling. . Let's see what he'll do against a half-decent bowler like Anwer Ali.
pun500 said:same bowlers against whom the yuvi , gambhir , sehwag made runs. even lax , tendulkar ,ganguly dravid made runs on the same pitches against same bowlers
It is not bhatija mentality .. if you see him bat you would know . Yuvi for me is very circumspect in test matches.
on a flat track ... i will reserve my judgement on yuvi . he is a talented bat but the temprament for a long innings is lacking . did you manage to catch his dismissal when he had the lankan attack by the throat?Afridi_Fan said:His last innings totaly negates this.
pun500 said:on a flat track ... i will reserve my judgement on yuvi . he is a talented bat but the temprament for a long innings is lacking . did you manage to catch his dismissal when he had the lankan attack by the throat?
pun500 said:This thread is dedicated to C pujara an absolute run machine . While idiots like yuvi get the test spot this dude just piles on runs and more runs.
Came back after a six month injury layoff with a notout double hundred (204*) .
yes pitch was flat bowling terrible but still.
dude has now 12 hundreds in 41 fc matches avg of 57.66 after today.
a future star
mark my words given an opportunity he will be one of indias better test bats .Afridi_Fan said:Yes of a flat track.
pun500 said:mark my words given an opportunity he will be one of indias better test bats.
Yuvi will be inconsistent brilliance followed by avg stuff.
JeeraBlade said:Yes, he did bat like a guy is form with an ave of 100+ in the that match -- since that was the last match of the tournament.
Plus did 100+ average matter at all?
Deal with Aamir first then talk Anwar.
pun500 said:as far as i see it the likely candidates in future are
murali vijay
abhinav mukund
pujara
kohli
rohit sharma
Inswinger said:Is Rohit Sharma still rated ahead of Suresh Raina?
badri and vijay are deserved spots. the problem is dinesh kartik in the squad many times. I like the dudes attitude but if we are playing him as a batsmen we have better options . He should strictly be a replacement for dhoni . also no use carrying 2 keepers abroad just fly one when the need arises . dravid is good enough for the job in 1 test match till the replacement makes itgiri26 said:I agree with your list but to be frank, I don't see Vijay and Mukund making the team any soon. Sorry to say but that has been the bane of TN players in Indian team. As soon as Badri and Vijay were selected as the reserves for the current test series there have been consipiracy theories floating around blaming Srikkanth for showing favoritsm. Unfortunately no one complained when Rohit Sharma played 41 games for India with an average of 24. Badri failed in 2 games and people are questioning his inclusion. Pujara and Rohit might get a chance though.
i wont be so harsh on sharma ... raina suffered a similar phase few years ago. sharma is an effective bat. yup i did forget about dhawanamit said:@all rohit sharma fans, rohit sharma isnt fit for any form of cricket which lasts more than 20 overs in an innings. by 2011 he would be kicked out of even ranji trophy
the guy has been real unfortunate .. when he was on the cusp of selection..he got injured.Dare2Dream said:Looks like Indian selectors need to do a better job to give a chance to future prospects.
tiwari is ok but pujara sure doesnt look flashy but boy those nos cant be all wrong. the last person who had such a run of scores was vvs and before him dravidadarsh_bang said:i believe manoj tiwary must be given a chance.... he's a treat to watch... got a solid technique... scored 70 odd in the last innins he played vs karnataka i guess
,are you sure? you talkin about future Dravid?amit said:@all rohit sharma fans, rohit sharma isnt fit for any form of cricket which lasts more than 20 overs in an innings. by 2011 he would be kicked out of even ranji trophy
why only tests.. he scores damn fast in odis as well around 80 SR which is not bad and would get better . kohli himself scores at 85. when sachin goes pujara is ideal no 3 . then we can shunt raina at 6 for the hitting poweradarsh_bang said:i watched that innings on tv... the recent 204* one... pretty ok... but not mindblowing or something.... this man will soon be in contention for a spot in the test side if he continues scoring like this...
sharma always looks good technique wise and when he gets it together everyone finds it hard to get him out. But unfortunately his brain implosions occur more oftenSeen Sheen said:,are you sure? you talkin about future Dravid?
pun500 said:why only tests.. he scores damn fast in odis as well around 80 SR which is not bad and would get better . kohli himself scores at 85. when sachin goes pujara is ideal no 3 . then we can shunt raina at 6 for the hitting power
how?Nehra isnt someone who is 33 or 34,he is around 29 and bowling quite well andprobably the best indian seamer atm..he deserves a test spot..and sorry to say this,but Abid Nabi is just another slow medium Indian pacer.I saw him in ICL.He was barely touching 130ks there..giri26 said:I guess India will somehow manage in the batting department in the future but the major concern for India is their bowling. India don't seem to unearth half a decent bowler to win matches for the country. Ishant seems out of depth and for sure needs a break to work on his bowling. I hope that we dont go back to Nehra which will surely be a backward step.
India needs to try Tyagi for sure as he cannot do worse than the current crop. There is another bowler Abid Nabi who plays for J&K. He was in the news couple of years back but went out of favor since he chose to play in the ICL. He has a decent domestic record with a strike rate below 50 in first class game. He is a tall bowler with decent pace, probably around 140 K's. India need to explore their options and try to pick such talents to represent the team.
nope nabi is back and touching 138-140ks ...nehra wont last a test match. he is mr glass. nehras problem was never performance he was always decent but he never lasted long enoughSeen Sheen said:how?Nehra isnt someone who is 33 or 34,he is around 29 and bowling quite well andprobably the best indian seamer atm..he deserves a test spot..and sorry to say this,but Abid Nabi is just another slow medium Indian pacer.I saw him in ICL.He was barely touching 130ks there..
look its not just playing selector..its more than that . you got to blood a guy when he is amongst runs.adarsh_bang said:pun have ypu been offered any job as a selector yet?? if not you must be offered... you'll do a gr8 job
and anyone got any clue what's happened of kaif ???
laxman / ganguly can be replaced reasonably easilyInswinger said:India has always been a hot bead for batting talent. But I doubt even they can produce 3 all time greats like they did in 1996 with Ganguly, Laxman, and Dravid all coming from the same generation. From the current lot, you can expect one or two to rise but not three or four.
its all about how hungry you are for cricket..not being able to play for India for several years,I am sure he would be itching to make it to the test side and would do whatever it takes to cement his place in all forms of the game ..pun500 said:nope nabi is back and touching 138-140ks ...nehra wont last a test match. he is mr glass. nehras problem was never performance he was always decent but he never lasted long enough
i guessSeen Sheen said:its all about how hungry you are for cricket..not being able to play for India for several years,I am sure he would be itching to make it to the test side and would do whatever it takes to cement his place in all forms of the game ..
the only difference being india has the batting and only yuvis spot is under scanner. whereas for pak barring yousuf/younis all spots are up for grabsAyyub said:C.Pujara problem is like azhar ali performing in domestic level but not making in national side.
Pujara was once touted as dravid replacement in test .
pun500 said:the only difference being india has the batting and only yuvis spot is under scanner. whereas for pak barring yousuf/younis all spots are up for grabs
azhar ali is only avg 40 ..surely there must be some one better
12thMan said:Was he in same batch as Dhawan (sorry about the name but it sounded like this). Dhawan might have been in the U-19 Cup before Pujara. He was also good in U-19 and then came to Pakistan with India 'A' and I think scored runs. I was waiting for him to go up.
The problem with international cricket is that it is very hard to replace an established player. Look at the batting lineup and you have players playing for 7-10 years except Ghambir which was an open spot as Jaffer and someone else (Karthik etc) failed. Players can be lost in that time period