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Chief Selector and Head Coach Misbah-ul-Haq, The Revolutionary - Performance Watch

Not a great start to Misbah's coaching career. He made multiple blunders.

I have a feeling Pakistan will be missing Mickey Arthur badly.
 
Lol max 6 months and he ll be on his bicycle. Dragged the odi team to number 8 when he captained now goal is to get to number 8 in t20s. Keep going king Misbah
 
A noob question: These last few changes in PCB's "constitution"; what do they mean for future? Who runs PCB? Is it independent from current Gov/PM/external political intervention? Does PCB's "constitution" allow a person to have multiple important roles?
 
If he was intent on bringing back these losers, he could have been smarter and just brought back one at time with the other in the next series.

By bringing back both at the same time, he was always opening himself open to criticism of when they (not if) inevitably failed. Not a great start from Misbah the Saviour.
 
Mamoon said:
My opinion on Wasim Khan has not changed. He is an expensive mistake. PCB created a new position in its hierarchy and are paying him 40 lakh rupees per month for a role that should have been fulfilled by Mani itself.

10 lakhs are probably for his British accent. The only thing he has done is implement the system that was formulated by Imran Khan himself, so what is he doing?

Sarfraz is utter rubbish and should be kicked out from all formats immediately, and Misbah has been rewarded for his blunder-ridden captaincy tenure. If he was serious about showing his coaching credentials, he should have proved himself in PSL first.
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Totally agree. Saved my time.
 
I've always maintained the same stance.

TTFs should be allowed to play in domestic cricket because they add to the competition. However, you can't bring them back into international cricket unless there's a clear change in their technique/batting mindset. Nothing has changed with the likes of Shahzad or Akmal.

They're one of those players that do well at the lower levels and fall apart during international matches because their flaws are easy to exploit.

Merit is always good but it should be reserved for those who haven't been given a chance (i.e. Iftikhar Ahmed is old but at least a legitimate selection). For example, Imran Farhat has been doing well in FC cricket but that doesn't mean it's time to pick him as an opener for Test cricket. He will fail again if they do so.

Misbah will have to make changes to his approach. Even if these guys do well against Sri Lanka Z, it doesn't matter against the better teams because their flaws are still present.
 
Early days but the concern is there is no change in terms of tactics, game-plan, the vast majority of players who have been brought back are tried and tested failures and several players needed dropping but have continued to be selected by the new management set-up.

I don't feel excited about the state of Pakistan cricket at the moment.
 
Like Sarfraz, Misbah should have to answer questions after games. He is the most powerful person in Pakistan cricket and neither Akmal or Shehan are his selections
 
Saj said:
Early days but the concern is there is no change in terms of tactics, game-plan, the vast majority of players who have been brought back are tried and tested failures and several players needed dropping but have continued to be selected by the new management set-up.

I don't feel excited about the state of Pakistan cricket at the moment.
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Why don’t journalist ask important targeted questions in Pakistan?
 
The captain needs dealing with first. The coach may not be good enough, but he needs more than 1 game before calling him a failure.
 
I don’t even watch much cricket these days but it’s disgusting to see tried and tested crap like Umar and seflie getting recycled again and again.

The whole point of 20/20 bilateral’s should be to try new players.

Misbah was a safety first captain and he will be a safety first with selections as coach.

I will maintain we should have stuck with Micky Arthur as he would not have accepted these trash selections.
 
Don’t understand not bringing in new players because they are just going to be discarded anyway in the next series and then losing heavily because the players on the fringes are abysmal
The only teenager given a chance excelled and so misbahs method for this series would have to be described as a failure based on any kind of hypothesis
 
big mistake by Misbah here.

Having, Umar Akmal, Shezad and ASif Ali all three in one team is not the correct decision.

If he wants these guys, bring them in onee by one and discard them if they dont perform.

Problem is, you have a captain who cant even hold a bat, than you bring in 3 other players aswell who cant bat either.

If you are going to play iftikhar, than no need for Asif.

However, early days so i will let this one go.
 
So far he is no different than any past Chief selector we have had in Pakistan cricket baring Inzimam. His choices are “rather be safe than sorry” approach. The guy has no eye for talent. In my opinion he will remain this way through out his tenure. Cause you can’t fix a man at his age.
 
There was never a need to bring back Shezad Fakhar, Imam, Abid Ali all were better choices than him. Misbah is the same player under who we did ok in tests but were abysmal in LOI’s, remember we almost didn’t qualify for the 2019 world cup we were that bad. He is an unproven coach and hiring him is the same as hiring Miandad or some ex-player he has not proven himself as coach, batting coach or selector in any domestic or International level yet the PCB give him all these roles just doesn’t make sense at all
 
Good selections by Misbah. People must understand that for a T20 game, this was a good team overall. Umar Akmal batted at one down after a long time. The batting unit was perfect for a T20 game. Everyone except Babar and Sarfraz were capable of hitting big sixes. That’s what you want in a T20 batting unit.

It was just a collective bad day for batsmen. At least the myth that Misbah will bring back tuk tuk batting has already busted.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
Ravi Shastri also had 0 professional coaching when he joined India
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Ravi is a former cricketer and former commentator analyst who has spent years around great minds. The guy wasn’t shoved in the coaching role two years after his retirement from cricket. Secondly, comparing India’s system to Pakistan’s is like comparing apples to oranges. India is way ahead of Pakistan in everything. This current Indian team is made out of players who have been groomed from there domestic by proper invested coaching. So by the time they make it to the international stage they are mentally ready. In Pakistan’s case we just changed our own domestic system and gave a unexperienced guy the most power. This is the difference between India and Pakistan.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Good selections by Misbah. People must understand that for a T20 game, this was a good team overall. Umar Akmal batted at one down after a long time. The batting unit was perfect for a T20 game. Everyone except Babar and Sarfraz were capable of hitting big sixes. That’s what you want in a T20 batting unit.

It was just a collective bad day for batsmen. At least the myth that Misbah will bring back tuk tuk batting has already busted.
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You are probably the only guy here today who called the selections good selections.
 
Common chaps, Misbah knows what he is doing. Its a T20 circus remember?

On a serious note, both Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad will come good as they are quality players made for T20. I know we are expecting them to score double hundreds on return but real life is a lot different compared to our imagination.

I would give each of them 3 innings before passing judgment. On a plus side both the players are looking sharp and have put in hard time in training.

If there is a question mark in the team, it is Sarfaraz.
 
sweep_shot said:
You are probably the only guy here today who called the selections good selections.
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I don’t have an agenda or a bias against Misbah. He picked an attacking team for T20s which is a big positive. He can’t go and bat for them. It is batsmen’s fault if they can’t last even 20 overs.
 
The_Odd_One said:
I don’t have an agenda or a bias against Misbah. He picked an attacking team for T20s which is a big positive. He can’t go and bat for them. It is batsmen’s fault if they can’t last even 20 overs.
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Haris, Fakhar, Shehzad, Akmal.

All four can attack. However, Akmal fails 9 out of 10 times. Why play him instead of consistent Haris? Haris can hit big too.
 
Iftikhar the only batsman who has been striking well has been dropped and best T20 batsman in the world Babar has been moved to number three, just so this loser insaan can accommodate his friends Shehzad and Akmal.
 
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Syed1 said:
Iftikhar the only batsman who has been striking well has been dropped and best T20 batsman in the world Babar has been moved to number three, just so this loser insaan can accommodate his friends Shehzad and Akmal.
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As a Pakistani, I always want the team to win and do well. But now, a part of me actually wants us to crash and burn just so that those who were calling for Mickey's head are put in their place!

With Misbah's appointment, the PCB has rewarded failure handsomely! The guy has a proven track-record of senseless selection, defensive mindset and a defeatist mentality! Just 2 LOI matches in, and we've already taken 10 steps back with the selection of Shehzad and Akmal!

Horrendous start, but I did not expect anything different from Misbah!
 
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Snowflake said:
As a Pakistani, I always want the team to win and do well. But now, a part of me actually wants us to crash and burn just so that those who were calling for Mickey's head are put in their place!

With Misbah's appointment, the PCB has rewarded failure handsomely! The guy has a proven track-record of senseless selection, defensive mindset and a defeatist mentality! Just 2 LOI matches in, and we've already taken 10 steps back with the selection of Shehzad and Akmal!

Horrendous start, but I did not expect anything different from Misbah!
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I was one who despised Mickey's lack of ruthless decisions and Inzi's support for certain oldies, however, both of them seem head and shoulders above Misbah who is an all round disgrace. He blackened the face of Pakistan cricket once before from 2011 to 2015, and he is back again to take us to number 9 in the rankings in all formats. Shameless, beghairat insaan. Jitni gaaliyan do kam hai.
 
Syed1 said:
I was one who despised Mickey's lack of ruthless decisions and Inzi's support for certain oldies, however, both of them seem head and shoulders above Misbah who is an all round disgrace. He blackened the face of Pakistan cricket once before from 2011 to 2015, and he is back again to take us to number 9 in the rankings in all formats. Shameless, beghairat insaan. Jitni gaaliyan do kam hai.
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I kept saying that once we remove Mickey, see how these TTFs crawl back in our side. However, those at the PCB and some fans were just obsessed with numbers (w/l ratio) and not the larger picture which Mickey and Inzi were building towards. Yes, they made blunders along the way but for the first time, this team had a sense of direction. As I said, just with 2 matches in, this team has started to look directionless. Are Shehzad and Akmal part of our plans for the next 4/5 years? What is the point of investing in them again?

I haven't seen a single second of these games on telly and don't intend on following Pak cricket as closely anymore. Poor performances, fans can take. But when you put the very people who have done so much harm to your team in charge, that is just a slap in the face.
 
Syed1 said:
I was one who despised Mickey's lack of ruthless decisions and Inzi's support for certain oldies, however, both of them seem head and shoulders above Misbah who is an all round disgrace. He blackened the face of Pakistan cricket once before from 2011 to 2015, and he is back again to take us to number 9 in the rankings in all formats. Shameless, beghairat insaan. Jitni gaaliyan do kam hai.
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Lamo. This. This shameless person is on a mission to destroy our cricket and if anyhow Babar at 3. I will lose it.
 
Khan12 said:
Lamo. This. This shameless person is on a mission to destroy our cricket and if anyhow Babar at 3. I will lose it.
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Oh wait what?!.. I just saw the lineup. Surely, even for Misbah, this would be unthinkable, right?! I mean, there's no way Babar would be pushed to #3.
 
I think Misbah is like a Trojan horse for Pakistan cricket. Even if his contract not renew after 3 years our team will be an easy opponent for Zimbabwe.
We will be no.7-8 in test, 10 in ODI, 8-9 in T20.
 
Misbah has messed up all the work Micky and Sarfraz did for 3 years
Horrible selections
 
Shameless coach. Bye bye Pakistan welcome to misbah area selecting people because of Pr and money
 
Umar akmal and shezads selection. Yes misbah deserves blame

But sarfraz not knowing how to bat. Fakhar zaman aswell amd babar azam being a big joke.

That is not misbahs fault.
 
Come on boys, give Misbah a chance. I am seriously considering the potential of a quadruple role instead of a dual role - batsman, captain, coach, chief selector. This will revolutionize Pakistan cricket.
 
Major said:
Umar akmal and shezads selection. Yes misbah deserves blame

But sarfraz not knowing how to bat. Fakhar zaman aswell amd babar azam being a big joke.

That is not misbahs fault.
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2 demerit points and 3 merit points in 1 comment for MISBAH...wow simply fantastic...
 
Major said:
Umar akmal and shezads selection. Yes misbah deserves blame

But sarfraz not knowing how to bat. Fakhar zaman aswell amd babar azam being a big joke.

That is not misbahs fault.
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Persisting with Sarfaraz is Misbah's choice.
 
Misbah really had no reason to take up this role. He was already a very well respected person, but now if things go badly, he runs the risk of loosing all the respect he’s accumulated over the years.

It’s a shame really, Misbah is one of the few genuinely well respected and honourable cricketers we had.
 
The next revolution Don Misbah is going to bring is the return of Malik and Hafeez instead of Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad. The cycle will continue on.

The Dark ages have just begun. If Sri Lankan C team can thrash Pakistan in T20s then just imagine what the stronger teams are going to do to us. Get ready for a demolition.

In an extremely competitive international environment of cricket, PCB has hired a politicized Newbie in form of Misbah, hence, this was expected.
 
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j_kazmi said:
Misbah really had no reason to take up this role. He was already a very well respected person, but now if things go badly, he runs the risk of loosing all the respect he’s accumulated over the years.

It’s a shame really, Misbah is one of the few genuinely well respected and honourable cricketers we had.
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sorry, but just because you have earn some respect of some people doesnt mean one should just sit at home and do nothing.

Its like saying, Babar Azam scored runs in t20 domestic and has earned his respect he shouldnt play more cricekt as he will lose that respect.
 
If someone has not good enough, he/she himself needs to take the different path

Everybody knows their own abilities, why Misbah didn't take the other path. He himself knows that he is not good enough for this job because he has 0 year experience in coaching.

May be big money is everything for him
 
Manager101 said:
The next revolution Don Misbah is going to bring is the return of Malik and Hafeez instead of Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad. The cycle will continue on.

The Dark ages have just begun. If Sri Lankan C team can thrash Pakistan in T20s then just imagine what the stronger teams are going to do to us. Get ready for a demolition.

In an extremely competitive international environment of cricket, PCB has hired a politicized Newbie in form of Misbah, hence, this was expected.
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At this rate he will come out of retirement and select himself in all three formats, and make himself captain.


Captain - coach - selector.


Is there any other role he can forcibly take? Maybe Wasim Khan should also feel insecure about his position, Misbah the saviour would be gunning for it.
 
The Revolutionary? I gave that name to Inzi because everyone was going gaga over his appointment and how he's going to change everything over the long term. When compared to past selectors, he did a fairly decent job.

Misbah is The Dictator.
 
Shocking to see so many flop players in our current T20 line up

How do we have so many flop players in our t20 line up, for a home series!

#MisbahOut

Akmal - flop, why do we keep trying
Shehzad - flop, same as above
Sarfraz - flop, ashamed to call him captain
Asif Ali - flop, has enough chances to shine
Faheem Ashraf - flop, same as Asif Ali
Shadab Khan - not an all rounder

Where is our specialist spinner? Where is the youth? T20 WC just 1 year away and we are in shambles

#MisbahOut - we need a ruthless leader who has the brains to pick a quality team
 
The end of Shoaib Malik & Hafeez and Rise of the debutants. What are you doing, Misbah?!

Under the dark Mickey Arthur era, who would have thought:

* Shoaib Malik would be dropped
* Hafeez would be dropped
* Sarfraz would be sacked as captain and dropped from all the formats

..and, above all, never in Pakistan's cricketing history we've taken so many debutants to a high profile foreign tour.

Naseem Shah
Musa
Abid Ali
Khushdil Shah
Usman Qadir
Kashif Bhatti

Rizwan, Iftikhar also come in.

This is totally unheard of in Pakistan's cricketing history. And it's a super daring move.

Can they deliver?
 
dont worry they will be back after we lose the series
he will recall hafeez and malik
 
Hawkeye said:
Under the dark Mickey Arthur era, who would have thought:

* Shoaib Malik would be dropped
* Hafeez would be dropped
* Sarfraz would be sacked as captain and dropped from all the formats

..and, above all, never in Pakistan's cricketing history we've taken so many debutants to a high profile foreign tour.

Naseem Shah
Musa
Abid Ali
Khushdil Shah
Usman Qadir
Kashif Bhatti

Rizwan, Iftikhar also come in.

This is totally unheard of in Pakistan's cricketing history. And it's a super daring move.

Can they deliver?
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The names you have listed it will be a miracle if any of them can match Malik and Hafeez performance over the years in Asia where those two were decent players. In away conditions well Apart from Abid ali there is not a lot of hope.
 
Pakhs said:
The names you have listed it will be a miracle if any of them can match Malik and Hafeez performance over the years in Asia where those two were decent players. In away conditions well Apart from Abid ali there is not a lot of hope.
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I hope you don't expect bowlers to outperform batsmens.
 
But you can't rule out their comebacks, as it is a typical trend. This is considered a tough tour, if the newbies fail, then the real test of Misbah will start, as we will know then whether he will succumb to the media pressure in bringing back the oldies or not.
 
Yes it doesn't rule out a comeback, but at least Misbah has stopped free holidays for them.
 
Khan12 said:
I hope you don't expect bowlers to outperform batsmens.
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I am talking about the batsmen replacing Malik and Hafeez, While I am in favor of moving on with these two players due to them getting too old but Its sad to see such poor replacements.
 
Mercurial said:
But you can't rule out their comebacks, as it is a typical trend. This is considered a tough tour, if the newbies fail, then the real test of Misbah will start, as we will know then whether he will succumb to the media pressure in bringing back the oldies or not.
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His real test is already started - Made a blunder selecting Shazad and Akmal thinking let them perform against poor Srilanka side so I can play them forever in future tours on the back of it since they are his favorites. Backfires big time and now he has dropped them clearly exposing his lack of experience and favoritism.
 
Energy said:
Yes it doesn't rule out a comeback, but at least Misbah has stopped free holidays for them.
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He wanted to give free holidays to Shazad and Ukmal by giving them easy games at home to against Sri-lanka expecting them to perform against them and then play them in future at the back of it. Luckily for Pakistan fans they failed.
 
Pakhs said:
He wanted to give free holidays to Shazad and Ukmal by giving them easy games at home to against Sri-lanka expecting them to perform against them and then play them in future at the back of it. Luckily for Pakistan fans they failed.
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Yes he made a blunder, there's no doubt about that. Now do we lash him?
 
Energy said:
Yes he made a blunder, there's no doubt about that. Now do we lash him?
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Its exposes his favoritism - this post is trying to paint him as someone who is giving youngsters a go etc but reality is that he played his favorites against B grade Srilanka at home and since they failed and now he is panicking for his own Job - he had no choice but listen to the media.
 
Overall it's quite average. He made some good, brave selections but hey were cancelled out by some poor selections.

Naseem and Musa are positives, even if Musa doesn't have much control yet. Rizwan is also good.

Why did he not pick Shadab. If he had a cricketing brain, he would realise that Shadab's batting is as good as, or better than Iftikhar's and his bowling in AUS, SA and NZ is better than Yasir. He would be a 2 in 1 package, which would then allow an extra spot. That spot would go to Aamer Yamin who is an attacking batsman who can bowl a few overs and swing the ball.

Imran Khan is a poor selection for Australia, he is an inferior version of Abbas. Sameen Gul or Ehsan Adil would have been better picks, they are tall with decent pace and they can swing and seam the ball.

Kashif Bhatti deserves a chance as he has been a consistent performer with ball and he can also bat. But he isn't exactly long term, he's 33. Zafar Gohar hould probably fit into the squad in a years time and he will be a long term option.

Muhammad Irfan is a bad option. He's 37 and has horrible fitness, and can barely bowl 135 kph. His height is useless with that pace. He isn't one for the future obviously and I don't see him playing the World T20I next year either.
 
Yasir Shah has been a massive failure in Australia, why can't Misbah the saviour see this obvious flaw? He could have made another decent decision by ditching Shah for someone like Gohar to have a go. (no pun intended)
 
Firsty as i said before some are just bench warmers...bhatti and imrran khan wont get a game for sure...
Shadab has regressed...yasir is not good but our premier spinner which is a fact..and only one spinner will play..Malik should have been there in my opinion ..and will retire after world cup..

we will prob lose 3 - 0 and 2 0 that is a reality...but no matter what picks that would have been the case
 
Mickey Arthur on Misbah

"Misbah will be good, he's a quality human being. He knows the game and Pakistan cricket inside out, I'm sure he'll work it out quick and he'll get that team going in the right direction"
 
So we are already over reacting and calling for Misbah-ul-Haq's head?

This is a new low for PP. Why are we being so knee jerk? It is just a T20I match, relax. Let's be more patient Misbah 2-3 years at least.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
In these 2-3 years we have the test championship and 2 T20I world cups.
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I don't care about t20 cricket at all so we can lose as much as needed there. But test championship is important, and Misbah is much better at tests than Mickey Arthur ever was so he's perfect for improving our test team.
 
If anyone thinks Misbah is going to take us to great heights in Tests, they are delusional. Sure, we will probably start winning UAE and Asia tests again, but outside of that, expect a completely average performance. Misbah was pretty poor outside Asia, and we have a lot of tough away tours coming up ...
 
HappyWarsFan said:
I don't care about t20 cricket at all so we can lose as much as needed there. But test championship is important, and Misbah is much better at tests than Mickey Arthur ever was so he's perfect for improving our test team.
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We will have to win all our home games in the test championship (which Misbah will be good at), but it is the away games I am worried about. Misbah didn't exactly do well in Australia. Misbah did win the test series in New Zealand in 2011, but that NZ team was horrible (just look at the NZ team in the scorecard). We also lost the test series in 2016 against NZ, although he only played one match. Misbah has been too defensive to be successful in Australia and New Zealand.

I am hopeful we will do well in England though. Misbah has experience of winning there and our bowling attack will be better than the 2016 tour, the ENgland side also looks weaker.
 
hussain.r97 said:
If anyone thinks Misbah is going to take us to great heights in Tests, they are delusional. Sure, we will probably start winning UAE and Asia tests again, but outside of that, expect a completely average performance. Misbah was pretty poor outside Asia, and we have a lot of tough away tours coming up ...
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He was only poor in Aus and SAF. we can do well in England and New Zealand.
 
Its hard to say how he has been as a coach, but as a selector I'd say 80% of his decision have been good but the other 20% are so disastrous they totally overshadow everything else.

Akmal and Shehzad, now Irfan - these are amongst some of the worst selection decisions of the last 20 years. This is to say nothing of the continued selection of Asif Ali, Wahab, and the incoming Imran Khan for tests

major blunders to start, in most organizations this would be enough evidence to prove he isn't capable of the position he holds
 
Coaches are just too wowed by the prospect of having a 7 foot fast bowler, bowling with pace. It just gives something that opposition batsmen aren't used to. But his fitness just isn't good enough, and is old. Liability with bat and field. He doesn't offer us anything going forward. In ODIs his first spell, 5 or so overs was good. But his latter wasn't, he didn't have any energy left.

Maybe we should have just played him as a T20 specialist, he should be able to bowl 4 overs no trouble. Though his T20 record hasn't exactly been great either.

You can't compromise with a bowler who struggles to bowl full quota. It hurts the team too much. It was an issue in ODIs, and now he might be past it in T20s too.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
He was only poor in Aus and SAF. we can do well in England and New Zealand.
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I don't think we will do well in New Zealand. New Zealand has a lot more bounce than England, the bounce can be close to Australia and South Africa at times. Pakistan usually struggle against bounce. Wagner did well against us and so did Southee. Ferguson will likely play next year and his pace and bounce will be too much for Pakistan batsmen (who don't duck for some reason, they resort to fending at the ball which pops up in the air).

New Zealand are also on top of their game. We have a good chance of doing well in England though.
 
Not playing Hasnain was harsh.

After Irfans performance, it should be a foregone conclusion that Hasnain is in next game.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
He was only poor in Aus and SAF. we can do well in England and New Zealand.
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Misbah beat New Zealand in 2010, far before New Zealand became a top cricketing nation again. This was during the period where New Zealand were almost at minnow level. There is no way Misbah would have achieved the same results had he toured New Zealand after 2013.
 
You know what you get with Misbah.

Bye bye Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shadab Khan, Sami Aslam, Sameen Gul.

Welcome back Mohammed Irfan, Iftikhar Ahmed, Abid Ali, Imran Khan.
 
hussain.r97 said:
If anyone thinks Misbah is going to take us to great heights in Tests, they are delusional. Sure, we will probably start winning UAE and Asia tests again, but outside of that, expect a completely average performance. Misbah was pretty poor outside Asia, and we have a lot of tough away tours coming up ...
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I very much doubt it , misbah this time round will not have the services of younas khan, ajmal and Yasir Shah ain't the same.
 
emranabbas said:
I very much doubt it , misbah this time round will not have the services of younas khan, ajmal and Yasir Shah ain't the same.
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Honestly, we will probably struggle in Asia too. Our whole test side is relatively new, and Misbah is the absolute worst person to nurture talent. I really fear for Naseem, Musa, Hasnain, Shaheen, etc, I'm hoping we don't see these bright prospects have their careers ruined by this clown.
 
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