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Beijing drops reference to UN role, calls for direct talks between India and Pak.

Ahead of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to India and Nepal, which is expected to be officially announced on Wednesday, Beijing has dropped references to the role of the United Nations in resolving the Kashmir issue.
Instead Beijing has advocated direct talks between New Delhi and Islamabad. In the presence of visiting Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan and Chief of the Army Staff General Qamar Javed Bajwa, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang, in response to a question, said: “China’s position on the Kashmir issue is consistent and clear. We call upon India and Pakistan to enhance dialogue and consultation on issues including Kashmir and consolidate mutual trust. This is in line with the interests of both countries and common aspirations of the world.”

Significant departure

Mr. Geng’s statement is a departure from the recent position adopted by Beijing after India revoked Article 370. China had backed Islamabad to internationalise the Kashmir issue at the United Nations.
“The Kashmir issue, a dispute left from the past, should be peacefully and properly addressed in accordance with the UN Charter, Security Council resolutions and bilateral agreement,” State Councillor and Foreign Minister of China Wang Yi had said in his address to the UN General Assembly last month.
During his daily media briefing, Mr. Geng pointed out that China was moving ahead with its ties with India and Pakistan on separate tracks.

Common thread

Asked whether Mr. Khan’s visit would have any bearing on President Xi’s expected visit to India from October 11, Mr. Geng said China and India were both major developing countries and emerging markets.
Referring to last year’s Wuhan informal summit between President Xi and Prime Minister Narendra Modi, he pointed that “there has been good momentum in our bilateral relations and we have been advancing our cooperation and properly managing differences and sensitive issues.”
He stressed that the same spirit should be maintained as the ties between New Delhi and Beijing enter their “next phase”.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/china-changes-tack-on-kashmir/article29620986.ece
 
Lol at you Indians.

China didnt mention UN so thats good news.

Whatever makes you sleep better.

I will bump this thread when a Chinese minister mentions UN again.
 
Lol at you Indians.

China didnt mention UN so thats good news.

Whatever makes you sleep better.

I will bump this thread when a Chinese minister mentions UN again.

Chinese FM mentioning kashmir and UN role in UNGA speech is not enough for indians. so they have to find something to have a better sleep.
 
Lol this is trying really hard

Do indian newspapers not have editorial standards
 
China has changed nothing. India is seeing things as usual.
 
India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi will host Chinese President Xi Jinping for an informal summit later this week, the Indian foreign ministry said, with the talks coming at a time when ties have been strained over occupied Kashmir.

The meeting in the southern Indian city of Chennai on Oct 11-12 is aimed at enhancing the rapport formed by the two leaders when they met in the Chinese city of Wuhan last year to help stabilize ties after a standoff in another contested section of their long border, far removed from Kashmir.

But New Delhi’s decision in August to withdraw special status for occupied Kashmir drew sharp condemnation from Pakistan and its ally China, which took the matter to the United Nations Security Council.

“The forthcoming Chennai Informal Summit will provide an opportunity for the two leaders to continue their discussions on overarching issues of bilateral, regional and global importance and to exchange views on deepening India-China Closer Development Partnership,” the Indian foreign ministry said in a statement on Wednesday.

India insists its revocation of the special status of Muslim-majority occupied Kashmir is an internal matter and aimed at faster economic development of the Himalayan territory. China said it believed India and Pakistan must refrain from taking unilateral action in Kashmir and has expressed concern over human rights violations in the territory. India has dismissed those concerns.

“The second informal meeting as such is significant given these ominous signals at bilateral, regional and global levels,” said Srikanth Kondapalli, professor of Chinese studies at New Delhi’s Jawaharlal Nehru University.

“Stabilizing relations is important as both are seized with a number of issues – domestic as well as regional,” he said.

Ahead of Xi’s trip to India, China invited Prime Minister Imran Khan for talks on bilateral issues. China supports Pakistan in safeguarding its independent sovereignty and territorial integrity, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Tuesday as he met Imran.

Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi on Tuesday said President Xi had taken Pakistan into confidence over his upcoming trip to India.

"The nature of our relations is such that we take each other into confidence at every step," Qureshi said.

India and China lay claim to territories thousands of miles to the east along the Himalayas and fought a brief border in 1962.

In recent years, India has drawn closer to both the United States, with which it has built closer military ties, and Japan.

During Xi’s visit, Modi is expected to raise economic issues, including India’s $53 billion trade deficit with China in 2018/19, and the smaller presence of Indian companies in China compared with other major economies.

China, for its part, is expected to urge New Delhi to take an independent decision on telecom equipment maker Huawei’s bid for India’s proposed 3G network and not be swayed by US pressure that it was a security risk.

Sources had told Reuters in August that Beijing had warned of “reverse sanctions” on Indian firms engaged in business in China should India block Huawei Technologies because of pressure from Washington.

During the upcoming meeting, officials said Modi and Xi will tour the coastal town of Mamallapuram, near Chennai, home to an 8th century temple.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1509892/modi-to-host-xi-at-summit-with-ties-strained-by-occupied-kashmir
 
NEW DELHI: New Delhi reacted sharply on Wednesday after Xi Jinping again supported Prime Minister Imran Khan on occupied Kashmir, just two days before Indian premier Narendra Modi was due to host the Chinese president for an “informal summit”.

President Xi told Prime Minister Khan during talks in Beijing ahead of the Chinese leader’s meeting with Mr Modi in Chennai on Friday and Saturday that Beijing was paying close attention to the Kashmir situation and that the facts were clear, the Xinhua state news agency reported.

In response, India’s foreign ministry said: “India’s position has been consistent and clear that Jammu & Kashmir is an integral part of India. China is well aware of our position. It is not for other countries to comment on the internal affairs of India.”

Ties between India and China have historically been testy, and recent events surrounding occupied Kashmir — in particular Beijing’s diplomatic support to Islamabad at the United Nations — have added to strains.

“China sympathises and supports the situation faced by Pakistan on this [Kashmir] issue. So, at present, the relationship between China and India has reached a very delicate point,” said Cheng Xiaohe at the Department of International Politics at Renmin University.

India’s move in August to split occupied Jammu and Kashmir into two angered not just Pakistan but also China because it will make the Ladakh region of the state a separate Indian administrative territory.

China thundered in August that India had “continued to undermine China’s territorial sovereignty by unilaterally changing its domestic law”.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1510046/china-irks-india-over-held-kashmir-two-days-before-summit
 
Lol at those masks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tamil Nadu: Around 2000 students of a school in Chennai form a formation wearing masks of Chinese President Xi Jinping, welcoming him to India. The Chinese President will visit Chennai from October 11-12 for the second Informal Summit between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and him. <a href="https://t.co/VDtnFTSe15">pic.twitter.com/VDtnFTSe15</a></p>— ANI (@ANI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1182165137068679169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From Wuhan to Chennai <br>
<br>President Xi Jinping arrived in Chennai to a warm and colourful welcome for the 2nd Informal Summit with PM <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@narendramodi</a>. Taking off from the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WuhanSpirit?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WuhanSpirit</a>, the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChennaiSpirit?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChennaiSpirit</a> will continue to chart the future course of India-China partnership. <a href="https://t.co/eV0myJu5Tr">pic.twitter.com/eV0myJu5Tr</a></p>— Raveesh Kumar (@MEAIndia) <a href="https://twitter.com/MEAIndia/status/1182610444722159616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big News: ⁦⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialDGISPR</a>⁩ told us today that President Xi Jinping will demand from India to lift curfew in Jammu & Kashmir and restore the pre-Aug 5th position otherwise Pakistan will not talk to India.Chinese President assured he will visit Pakistan next year. <a href="https://t.co/wA4eWFTgHw">pic.twitter.com/wA4eWFTgHw</a></p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1182629132426985477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
China has a lot of business but I respect their feelings based friendship with Pakistan.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big News: ⁦⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialDGISPR</a>⁩ told us today that President Xi Jinping will demand from India to lift curfew in Jammu & Kashmir and restore the pre-Aug 5th position otherwise Pakistan will not talk to India.Chinese President assured he will visit Pakistan next year. <a href="https://t.co/wA4eWFTgHw">pic.twitter.com/wA4eWFTgHw</a></p>— Hamid Mir (@HamidMirPAK) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamidMirPAK/status/1182629132426985477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why does he make it sound like India wants to talk to Pakistan, isn’t that what IK used to keep complaining about before 5th Aug?
 
Why does he make it sound like India wants to talk to Pakistan, isn’t that what IK used to keep complaining about before 5th Aug?

Delusions.

If China was in any position to make demands, they would demand Tawang or Sikkim or Other places they claim. Lol at the propoganda.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChennaiConnect?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChennaiConnect</a> marks the beginning of a new era of cooperation between India and China &#55356;&#56814;&#55356;&#56819; &#55356;&#56808;&#55356;&#56819; <br><br>Watch the highlights of the successful informal summit hosted by PM <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NarendraModi</a> ji for President Xi Jinping in Tamil Nadu. <a href="https://t.co/w9nb1I9FFa">pic.twitter.com/w9nb1I9FFa</a></p>— Piyush Goyal (@PiyushGoyal) <a href="https://twitter.com/PiyushGoyal/status/1183049730474958848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



India and China have border and territorial disputes going back decades, they have fought a war, the leadership probably don't even like each other much yet still they can put their differences to one side and at least talk about the stuff that does work - trade, environmental issues, climate change etc. The other, more contentious stuff, will improve as the overall relationship improves. And in the meantime both sides get wealthier and millions more get pulled out of poverty.

It's a shame that when it comes to Indo-Pak relations the same can't happen.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChennaiConnect?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChennaiConnect</a> marks the beginning of a new era of cooperation between India and China ���� ���� <br><br>Watch the highlights of the successful informal summit hosted by PM <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NarendraModi</a> ji for President Xi Jinping in Tamil Nadu. <a href="https://t.co/w9nb1I9FFa">pic.twitter.com/w9nb1I9FFa</a></p>— Piyush Goyal (@PiyushGoyal) <a href="https://twitter.com/PiyushGoyal/status/1183049730474958848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



India and China have border and territorial disputes going back decades, they have fought a war, the leadership probably don't even like each other much yet still they can put their differences to one side and at least talk about the stuff that does work - trade, environmental issues, climate change etc. The other, more contentious stuff, will improve as the overall relationship improves. And in the meantime both sides get wealthier and millions more get pulled out of poverty.

It's a shame that when it comes to Indo-Pak relations the same can't happen.

Oh wow so I guess India is going to be China's colony now :))
 
China probably asked India to back of in Ladakh or they'll get their noses rubbed in the ground again like in 1962.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChennaiConnect?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChennaiConnect</a> marks the beginning of a new era of cooperation between India and China <br><br>Watch the highlights of the successful informal summit hosted by PM <a href="https://twitter.com/narendramodi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NarendraModi</a> ji for President Xi Jinping in Tamil Nadu. <a href="https://t.co/w9nb1I9FFa">pic.twitter.com/w9nb1I9FFa</a></p>— Piyush Goyal (@PiyushGoyal) <a href="https://twitter.com/PiyushGoyal/status/1183049730474958848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



India and China have border and territorial disputes going back decades, they have fought a war, the leadership probably don't even like each other much yet still they can put their differences to one side and at least talk about the stuff that does work - trade, environmental issues, climate change etc. The other, more contentious stuff, will improve as the overall relationship improves. And in the meantime both sides get wealthier and millions more get pulled out of poverty.

It's a shame that when it comes to Indo-Pak relations the same can't happen.

China pulls millions out of poverty.

India hasn’t had anywhere same success despite having stronger base to start with
 
China pulls millions out of poverty.

India hasn’t had anywhere same success despite having stronger base to start with

The numbers are not as good as China but it’s still a significant number of people.


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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....e-out-of-poverty-in-a-decade-infographic/amp/
 
China probably asked India to back of in Ladakh or they'll get their noses rubbed in the ground again like in 1962.

Of all the countries china is very smart player ! They use words smartly & do things which benefit only them.

Btw they won't talk about 1962 coz then India will talk about 1967 when India gave china a bloodied nose and snatched Sikkim (a state in India currently) from their hands !

P.S : Sikkim was not part of India in 1947 & china wanted to occupy/control it via nathu la & cho la pass but indian army defeated them in skirmish/war & took control of sikkim (nathu la). As this is indian victory u wouldn't knew it as it won't be part of ur history books.

More at :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes
 
Of all the countries china is very smart player ! They use words smartly & do things which benefit only them.

Btw they won't talk about 1962 coz then India will talk about 1967 when India gave china a bloodied nose and snatched Sikkim (a state in India currently) from their hands !

P.S : Sikkim was not part of India in 1947 & china wanted to occupy/control it via nathu la & cho la pass but indian army defeated them in skirmish/war & took control of sikkim (nathu la). As this is indian victory u wouldn't knew it as it won't be part of ur history books.

More at :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes

Which Bollywood movie is this?
 
Which Bollywood movie is this?


lol I have given above wiki link which contains references at the bottom of that page. u can search urself by typing 'Nathu la & Cho la clashes' in google or simply u can check position of sikkim state.
In fact u can verify urself in 1947 sikkim was not part of Indian union but India gave chinese a bloody nose in 1967 which eventually added sikkim state to India in 1975.
 
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lol I have given above wiki link which contains references at the bottom of that page. u can search urself by typing 'Nathu la & Cho la clashes' in google or simply u can check position of sikkim state.
In fact u can verify urself in 1947 sikkim was not part of Indian union but India gave chinese a bloody nose in 1967 which eventually added sikkim state to India in 1975.

Wiki?

Are you serious?
 
Indians begging China to be their friends lol

China is occupying Indian land in Kashmir but not a peep from the RSS. Of course its easier to send hundreds of thousands of soldiers to point guns at unarmed civillians.
 
Of all the countries china is very smart player ! They use words smartly & do things which benefit only them.

Btw they won't talk about 1962 coz then India will talk about 1967 when India gave china a bloodied nose and snatched Sikkim (a state in India currently) from their hands !

P.S : Sikkim was not part of India in 1947 & china wanted to occupy/control it via nathu la & cho la pass but indian army defeated them in skirmish/war & took control of sikkim (nathu la). As this is indian victory u wouldn't knew it as it won't be part of ur history books.

More at :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes

Overall China bashing up India in 62 was much better and both know that. India still talks about that beating until this day and how it effected them. India has lost more land then any other country since 1947 make no mistake about it. Just see the map of pre independence and all will be exposed, this is what infuriates the Akhand Bharat brigade more then anything else.
 
Wiki?

Are you serious?

Yes read the references. In fact forget abt references just check india's map in 1947 where u won't find Sikkim state but u will find it in 1975 map after chinese were knocked out in 1967


Overall China bashing up India in 62 was much better and both know that. India still talks about that beating until this day and how it effected them. India has lost more land then any other country since 1947 make no mistake about it. Just see the map of pre independence and all will be exposed, this is what infuriates the Akhand Bharat brigade more then anything else.

yes we don't talk abt 1967 victory on chinese but talk a lot about 1961 failure bcoz of our nature which is 'when in victory be humble, in defeat do analysis etc.,'

anyway before 1947 the whole india + pak + nepal + bangladesh was ruled by british & they have divided into religious lines which we agreed.

but hey u have admit that our map has increased its size from 15th aug 1947 to till date with addition of junagarh, hyderabad, J & K , Sikkim states etc.,
 
Yes read the references. In fact forget abt references just check india's map in 1947 where u won't find Sikkim state but u will find it in 1975 map after chinese were knocked out in 1967




yes we don't talk abt 1967 victory on chinese but talk a lot about 1961 failure bcoz of our nature which is 'when in victory be humble, in defeat do analysis etc.,'

anyway before 1947 the whole india + pak + nepal + bangladesh was ruled by british & they have divided into religious lines which we agreed.

but hey u have admit that our map has increased its size from 15th aug 1947 to till date with addition of junagarh, hyderabad, J & K , Sikkim states etc.,

What happened in 1961 or do you mean 1962? I think your so called victory did not hurt China too much. It is actually the Indian media who harp on about the defeat to China.

You got India ready made from the Mughals followed by the Brits where as we had to rebuild the whole thing after independence. This is why one historian said "there would have been an India without Gandhi but not a Pakistan without Jinnah". It was the Quaid Jinnah who made Pak not the Brits, they certainly did not want a Pakistan and would have continued to delay independence had they known he was dying.
 
Indians begging China to be their friends lol

China is occupying Indian land in Kashmir but not a peep from the RSS. Of course its easier to send hundreds of thousands of soldiers to point guns at unarmed civillians.

People beg for bailouts, India is not in need of one.

According to China, India is occupying Sikkim,Arunachal and Leh.
 
Overall China bashing up India in 62 was much better and both know that. India still talks about that beating until this day and how it effected them. India has lost more land then any other country since 1947 make no mistake about it. Just see the map of pre independence and all will be exposed, this is what infuriates the Akhand Bharat brigade more then anything else.

India did not lose a single inch of land since 1947. Infact, we gained land (Junagadh, Kashmir, Hyderabad , Sikkim etc).

Now, do you want to know who actually lost a half of their land since 1947 ? No? Okay.
 
Let me guess, the references are Indian?

No they aren't. As I said keep aside these references for a minute and check India's map & its changes from 15th Aug 1947 to 1975 . U'll see sikkim added to India in 1975 and siachen added to India in 1984 (after we gave our neighbor the same treatment we had given to china in 1967 lol...)
 
India did not lose a single inch of land since 1947. Infact, we gained land (Junagadh, Kashmir, Hyderabad , Sikkim etc).

Now, do you want to know who actually lost a half of their land since 1947 ? No? Okay.

Oh you gained Kashmir, Junagadh and Hyderabad now?

These Indians lol.

India has been shrinking for centuries.

You lost Afghanistan, then Pakistan, Bangladesh and Azad Kashmir.

Then Aksai Chin.

Only gain is measly Sikkim.
 
No they aren't. As I said keep aside these references for a minute and check India's map & its changes from 15th Aug 1947 to 1975 . U'll see sikkim added to India in 1975 and siachen added to India in 1984 (after we gave our neighbor the same treatment we had given to china in 1967 lol...)

You need to cut down on the Bollywood movies.

Funny how quickly Indians switch narrative when it suits them.

From Kashmir is rightfully ours and acceded to us. POK is our territory and you have no right there.

To somehow we have gained Kashmir and Siachen. These are the same muppets who believe they won 1948 war cause Pakistan only took 35% of Kashmir.

Entire Pakistan and Bangladesh is a sign of Indian loss.

Guess where the name India comes from and exactly is it flowing through.
 
Oh you gained Kashmir, Junagadh and Hyderabad now?

These Indians lol.

India has been shrinking for centuries.

You lost Afghanistan, then Pakistan, Bangladesh and Azad Kashmir.

Then Aksai Chin.

Only gain is measly Sikkim.

S i n c e 1 9 4 7

Read twice if your comprehension is this poor. Not time saving but face saving for sure.
 
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You need to cut down on the Bollywood movies.

Funny how quickly Indians switch narrative when it suits them.

From Kashmir is rightfully ours and acceded to us. POK is our territory and you have no right there.

To somehow we have gained Kashmir and Siachen. These are the same muppets who believe they won 1948 war cause Pakistan only took 35% of Kashmir.

Entire Pakistan and Bangladesh is a sign of Indian loss.

Guess where the name India comes from and exactly is it flowing through.

Yes. Bangladesh is a sign of India's loss.

Let me think about that for a moment.
 
Yes. Bangladesh is a sign of India's loss.

Let me think about that for a moment.

I will help you.

Who did we take it from in the first place? The original owner of it.

Last time i checked it is still independent. Just another chunk of Hindu India that is now Muslim.
 
I will help you.

Who did we take it from in the first place? The original owner of it.

Last time i checked it is still independent. Just another chunk of Hindu India that is now Muslim.

What an ignorant post ! :bow:
 
Hey we been waiting for you on another thread and tagged you many times after your IAF statement but you ain't replied for a week to noe admit your IAF was lying and so was you.

And WiKi hahahahaa

I already replied.

And references are not from Wiki. Try again.
 
I will help you.

Who did we take it from in the first place? The original owner of it.

Last time i checked it is still independent. Just another chunk of Hindu India that is now Muslim.

The owner was British India. They by an act of British parliament made east pakistan.

You took it....lol.
 
The owner was British India. They by an act of British parliament made east pakistan.

You took it....lol.

You lost it.

India was partitioned last time I checked.

What burns you guys the most is most Muslims remained in India
 
You lost it.

India was partitioned last time I checked.

What burns you guys the most is most Muslims remained in India

British India was partitioned by British Parliament.

Those who rejected the idea of pakistan and realise how badly conceptualised it was remained in India. About one third of total muslims of the subcontinent.Why will it burn that people who didnot want to go to pakistan didnot go there and rejected the idea.
 
You lost it.

India was partitioned last time I checked.

What burns you guys the most is most Muslims remained in India

Sir, yes Indian subcontinent was partitioned into India & pakistan in aug 1947 and we agreed with that.

Only difference now is India's map size increased with inclusion of junagarh, hyderabad, J & K , siachen , sikkim etc,. since 15th aug 1947

where as pakistan's map size reduced from 14th aug 1947 (Ex :east pakistan)

Remember India even captured a village by name turtuk in ladakh from pakistan in 1971 war.


http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20161107-the-village-divided-by-a-border


clearly pakistan lost more of its territory since 14th aug 1947 where as India gained territory since 15th aug 1947.
 
People beg for bailouts, India is not in need of one.

According to China, India is occupying Sikkim,Arunachal and Leh.

India has approx 5 times more external debt. :))

My taxes contribute to Indian aid.

Its best you stoppig digging right now.:shezzy2
 
British India was partitioned by British Parliament.

Those who rejected the idea of pakistan and realise how badly conceptualised it was remained in India. About one third of total muslims of the subcontinent.Why will it burn that people who didnot want to go to pakistan didnot go there and rejected the idea.

If British partitioned India, then RSS supporters also supported it. If they didn't they would have taken back their land following the British retreat. So really Indians should be thankful to us British for doing the dirty work for you.

You are welcome.
 
India did not lose a single inch of land since 1947. Infact, we gained land (Junagadh, Kashmir, Hyderabad , Sikkim etc).

Now, do you want to know who actually lost a half of their land since 1947 ? No? Okay.

You have lost so much that it is not even funny! The said places you have gained were after 1947.
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You have lost so much that it is not even funny! The said places you have gained were after 1947.
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They claim all Kashmir as theirs. And Azad Kahsmir has beeb with Pakistan since 1947 and not even once they have tried to attempt to take it back. All they can do is talk and and get happy with big talks like we will get back Pakistan Administrated Kashmir. Tried a adventure in February and got taught a lesson big times and then went into hiding and just lying to save them from their embarrassment.
 
If British partitioned India, then RSS supporters also supported it. If they didn't they would have taken back their land following the British retreat. So really Indians should be thankful to us British for doing the dirty work for you.

You are welcome.

Why will India take the land when we are happy with ours?

Why will India act according to how you think?
 
Now posting random pics from internet. Lol.

Truth is that British made two countries in 1947.

One was divided again in 1971. Another still exists with a bigger area.

You have not heard of how much land India lost? Even in the opening scene of the movie "Mughal-e-Azam" it shows a much bigger India. It is understandable to see you screaming after seeing this map made by your brothers:rp
 
They claim all Kashmir as theirs. And Azad Kahsmir has beeb with Pakistan since 1947 and not even once they have tried to attempt to take it back. All they can do is talk and and get happy with big talks like we will get back Pakistan Administrated Kashmir. Tried a adventure in February and got taught a lesson big times and then went into hiding and just lying to save them from their embarrassment.

Just replace Pakistan with India, Azad Kashmir with J&K , POK with IOK , "Adventure in February" with "Adventure in 48, 65 and 99" and it will fit more well for Pakistan than India. :yk
 
Now posting random pics from internet. Lol.

Truth is that British made two countries in 1947.

One was divided again in 1971. Another still exists with a bigger area.

You must have now realised you were arguing with a poster with absurdity in excess. I remember seeing this pic in a timeline of a fanatic rss supporter. LOL
 
Why do you think so much diplomacy is going around in the world these days. No country is now in a position to intimidate another country . The nukes possessed by all country are acting as massive deterrents. Only thing they can do now is talks or sanctions. So things might have happened in past but they are going to be very different in future.
So China or India no one can be offensive now,
 
Just replace Pakistan with India, Azad Kashmir with J&K , POK with IOK , "Adventure in February" with "Adventure in 48, 65 and 99" and it will fit more well for Pakistan than India. :yk

You can claim what you want except 71 you guys ain't won no battle. By lying won't make it truth.

Even if Pak tried adventures in 48 65 and 99 atleast they have the will not like the Indian army who have to oppress Muslims of Kashmir to save their faces of the embarrassment of February
 
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Lol in 48 India **** themselves of losing that's why they signed UN resolution to stop war. You can claim what you want except 71 you guys ain't won no battle. By lying won't make it truth.

Even if Pak tried adventures in 48 65 and 99 atleast they have the will not like the Indian cowards who have to oppress Muslims of Kashmir to save their faces of the embarrassment of February

India was losing in 48? Thats why pakistani troops were pushed from near srinagar to the narrow strip of land you hold? Lol.

Pak tried 65, failed to get Kashmir, had to run and save Lahore.

99, Sharif had to run to Clinton to save pakistan.
 
India was losing in 48? Thats why pakistani troops were pushed from near srinagar to the narrow strip of land you hold? Lol.

Pak tried 65, failed to get Kashmir, had to run and save Lahore.

99, Sharif had to run to Clinton to save pakistan.

Keep pleasing yourself with lies and keep living in your Bollywood movies. Don't worry Balakot movie being made once released you can take things out from their and claim it to be true.

Still been a week and you not responded to your lies on the IAF thread despite being tagged many times which were proved by your IAF statement which shows they lied, Modi lied, your media lied and so did you.
 
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