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Citizenship Amendment Bill: India's new 'anti-Muslim' law causes uproar

What I am hearing from my sources is that, college violence in Delhi is organized by AAP in order to garner vote in the upcoming Delhi election. Manish Sisodia is caught of spreading fake videos in internet.
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Redchilly007 said:
Two nation theory became a reality in 1947. Nearly 90% Muslims voted for it. In 1946 Muslim League won 425 of 496 seats reserved for muslims with 89.2% votes. ML fought election on promise of creation of Pakistan.
After partition there should have been a complete exchange of hindu and muslim population which didn't happen all thanks to Congress party.
Congress allowed Muslims to stay in India despite the fact that they wanted Pakistan, they also abandoned the non muslim population in Pakistan despite them being against the idea of Pakistan!
Nehru and Gandhi went in denial mode of a jilted lover where one believes that the girl (muslims) still loves them and they can win them over. Movies like Ranjhanaa, Awargi (1990) etc. comes to mind regarding this.

Muslims stayed in India because they were never persecuted whereas their hindu counterparts in neighborhood countries got a different treatment.

Hindus ended up being the losers in the whole mess called partition. They lost big part of their motherland and ended up sharing the remaining part with the same people who asked for the partition! They were put on strong anesthesia called Nehruvian secularism ( putting minorities ahead and adjusting to their whims and fancies). The anesthesia lasted for nearly 60 years but it is running out now.
CAA is a step to correct the mistake of the past by allowing Hindus and other minorities which were left to fend for themselves in a islamic state post partition.
Anyone who is indulging in violence during protests should be dealt with brute force irrespective of their religion.
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Muslims were never persecuted in India? :)))

What a load of **. Is that what they teach you at the RSS school you go to in your brown chuddy?

The whole reason why the Muslim league won so many votes and why there was a call for Pakistan was because Muslims were being oppressed upon Congress taking control of state governments in the prior election. That’s why there was the demand in the first place.
 
New Delhi: Four days after people protesting the amended Citizenship Act set fire to a railway station in Bengal's Murshidabad, a Union Minister today warned that anybody resorting to such acts would be shot at sight by the authorities.

"I have told the district administration and railway authorities concerned that if anybody destroys public property, they can be shot at sight. I am giving this directive as a Union Minister," Suresh Angadi, the Union Minister of State for Railways, told news agency ANI.

The controversial statement comes amid nationwide protests against the amended Citizenship Act, which aims to make it easier for non-Muslim migrants from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh to become Indian nationals.

Protesters had set the Beldanga railways station complex in Murshidabad afire on December 13, despite appeals for calm from Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee. They also assaulted Railway Police Force personnel at the scene.

Mr Angadi said that such violence actions cannot be condoned when the Railways already faces a lot of losses in West Bengal and Northeastern states. "As many as 13 lakh employees work there day and night to ensure the development and cleanliness of railway infrastructure. But some anti-social elements supported by the opposition are are creating problems in the country," he said, demanding that the government take stringent action against protesters "like Vallabhbhai Patel would have".

The Union Minister claimed that opposition parties were misleading people into protesting against the amended Citizenship Act even though it does not pose any threat to genuine citizens, including Muslims. "We are only giving refugees from minority communities in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh the right to stay in India, and local minorities will not be affected. But some people in the area are trying to destabilise the economy," he said

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/if-...t-union-minister-2150379?pfrom=home-topscroll
 
Redchilly007 said:
Two nation theory became a reality in 1947. Nearly 90% Muslims voted for it. In 1946 Muslim League won 425 of 496 seats reserved for muslims with 89.2% votes. ML fought election on promise of creation of Pakistan.
After partition there should have been a complete exchange of hindu and muslim population which didn't happen all thanks to Congress party.
Congress allowed Muslims to stay in India despite the fact that they wanted Pakistan, they also abandoned the non muslim population in Pakistan despite them being against the idea of Pakistan!
Nehru and Gandhi went in denial mode of a jilted lover where one believes that the girl (muslims) still loves them and they can win them over. Movies like Ranjhanaa, Awargi (1990) etc. comes to mind regarding this.

Muslims stayed in India because they were never persecuted whereas their hindu counterparts in neighborhood countries got a different treatment.

Hindus ended up being the losers in the whole mess called partition. They lost big part of their motherland and ended up sharing the remaining part with the same people who asked for the partition! They were put on strong anesthesia called Nehruvian secularism ( putting minorities ahead and adjusting to their whims and fancies). The anesthesia lasted for nearly 60 years but it is running out now.
CAA is a step to correct the mistake of the past by allowing Hindus and other minorities which were left to fend for themselves in a islamic state post partition.
Anyone who is indulging in violence during protests should be dealt with brute force irrespective of their religion.
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In that case, why have they never tried to reverse it? If anything they have put up even bigger fences even with friendly govts on the border such as Bangladesh.
 
Redchilly007 said:
Two nation theory became a reality in 1947. Nearly 90% Muslims voted for it. In 1946 Muslim League won 425 of 496 seats reserved for muslims with 89.2% votes. ML fought election on promise of creation of Pakistan.
After partition there should have been a complete exchange of hindu and muslim population which didn't happen all thanks to Congress party.
Congress allowed Muslims to stay in India despite the fact that they wanted Pakistan, they also abandoned the non muslim population in Pakistan despite them being against the idea of Pakistan!
Nehru and Gandhi went in denial mode of a jilted lover where one believes that the girl (muslims) still loves them and they can win them over. Movies like Ranjhanaa, Awargi (1990) etc. comes to mind regarding this.

Muslims stayed in India because they were never persecuted whereas their hindu counterparts in neighborhood countries got a different treatment.

Hindus ended up being the losers in the whole mess called partition. They lost big part of their motherland and ended up sharing the remaining part with the same people who asked for the partition! They were put on strong anesthesia called Nehruvian secularism ( putting minorities ahead and adjusting to their whims and fancies). The anesthesia lasted for nearly 60 years but it is running out now.
CAA is a step to correct the mistake of the past by allowing Hindus and other minorities which were left to fend for themselves in a islamic state post partition.
Anyone who is indulging in violence during protests should be dealt with brute force irrespective of their religion.
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I believe in secularism and I get that that you don’t... and no one was left to fend for themselves I cannot keep repeating I’m from a partitioned family and so we made the choice to come, my paternal ones made it after Independence.

So yeah I rather have no appeasement of any minority and Yeah Congress did appeasement as well but i guess one country one law isnt what BjP supporters want anymore
 
Bel_Homme said:
What I am hearing from my sources is that, college violence in Delhi is organized by AAP in order to garner vote in the upcoming Delhi election. Manish Sisodia is caught of spreading fake videos in internet.
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Your sources? Lol i mean :)) you made my day bro with this amazing statement,
 
Bangladesh will take back any of its citizen if it is proven he/she was staying in India illegally, an advisor to Bangladeshi Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina told PTI.

“We will take back any Bangladeshi citizen staying in India illegally. But India has to prove that,” PTI quoted Gauhar Rizvi, Advisor to Hasina on international affairs, as saying.

He further said the issue of the amended Citizenship Act is an internal matter of India.

Denying any unfair treatment towards minorities living in Bangladesh, Rizvi said Muslims, Hindus, Christians and Buddhists co-exist peacefully in the country.

Rizvi’s statement comes days after two senior Bangladesh ministers cancelled their visits to India after the Citizenship Amendment Bill, 2019 was passed by the Indian Parliament on December 12.

The Indian diplomats in Dhaka had said that the Hasina government was not happy with the underlying assumption behind CAB despite Home Minister Amit Shah saying that the situation of minorities had improved under the current government in Bangladesh.

A day after Citizenship bill was passed, Bangladesh Foreign Minister A K Abdul Momen had rejected allegations that the minorities are facing religious persecution in his country.

“India is historically a tolerant country which believes in secularism (but) their… position will be weakened if they deviate from that,” he had said.

He said Bangladesh and India enjoy close friendly relations, “termed as the golden chapter” of bilateral ties, and “so, naturally our people (Bangladeshis) expect that India won’t do anything that could create anxiety among them”.

Momen said the allegations of repression of minorities in Bangladesh were “untrue”. “Whoever gave them the information, it is not correct,” he said. “Many important decisions of our country are taken by persons belonging to different religions… we never judge anybody by their religion,” he said.

https://indianexpress.com/article/i...-migrant-citizenship-act-india-dhaka-6171960/
 
As a Pakistani Muslim , their country their rules. They should be able to decide whom they wanna give citizenship to . Its pretty obvious that the country is not secular anymore and being overrun my hindu extremists. Even then, the majority picked their govt and they have the right to make laws about who gets citizenship in their country . I mean its not like they are stripping away citizenship from their native Muslim population.
As a Pakistani though, all I see is India going down the hole of religious extremism . I feel for them because we have suffered from it and its a genie that's really hard to put back in the proverbial bottle . I see them making the same mistakes that we made and I see their population eating it up like ours did. We are still trying to dig ourselves out of the hole while they keep digging themselves deeper.
 
Well given Hinduphobia is massive in India, it's no surprise it is Hindus whom are fleeing India. One just has to see the number of applications rejected by the Home Office

The fantastic aspect of this is that the world can see for what India really is.
 
from_da_lost_dim3nsion said:
As a Pakistani Muslim , their country their rules. They should be able to decide whom they wanna give citizenship to . Its pretty obvious that the country is not secular anymore and being overrun my hindu extremists. Even then, the majority picked their govt and they have the right to make laws about who gets citizenship in their country . I mean its not like they are stripping away citizenship from their native Muslim population.
As a Pakistani though, all I see is India going down the hole of religious extremism . I feel for them because we have suffered from it and its a genie that's really hard to put back in the proverbial bottle . I see them making the same mistakes that we made and I see their population eating it up like ours did. We are still trying to dig ourselves out of the hole while they keep digging themselves deeper.
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India is not secular in reality, but not because of this law. This law is totally fine and it provides positive discrimination to only the minority religions of the three countries. Fundamental rights provide quotas in jobs and education for scheduled castes and tribes. Should those laws be called anti upper caste because it provides positive discrimination to the marginalized?

You can question BJP's motives and secularism ( or lack of) in general, but people need to understand the concept of positive discrimination instead of crying anti this and anti that.
 
JaDed said:
I believe in secularism and I get that that you don’t... and no one was left to fend for themselves I cannot keep repeating I’m from a partitioned family and so we made the choice to come, my paternal ones made it after Independence.

So yeah I rather have no appeasement of any minority and Yeah Congress did appeasement as well but i guess one country one law isnt what BjP supporters want anymore
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Secularism is not the burden of hindus. Enough of it since 1947.

You made a choice because you could. Others believed what was actually written down on the agreement twice. Minorities to get rights, no persecution, no forced conversion etc. Since Infia failed to protect the rights of the non muslims in the land given to muslims, its our duty to give them home if they so desire.
 
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cricketjoshila said:
Secularism is not the burden of hindus. Enough of it since 1947.

You made a choice because you could. Others believed what was actually written down on the agreement twice. Minorities to get rights, no persecution, no forced conversion etc. Since Infia failed to protect the rights of the non muslims in the land given to muslims, its our duty to give them home if they so desire.
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Burden? Just straighten out laws, also people who stayed there made a choice.. you seem to be changing views I’m sure you are going to be like there is no Hindu Republic in the world and Hindus deserve a country with their name in it once BJP does that..
For longest time you were like their country their laws..

Bro snap out of it, BJP is making you stretch your own line.. secularism is not a burden when uniform
Law is in place.. so instead of rectifying going the other way is not an answer.
 
Someone from this side of the border started the Hitler-Modi, RSS-Nazi comparisons regularly with his speeches and tweets and looks like the comparisons found their way into India. The people protesting in India are also using Modi posters showing him as Hitler and indian social media is now full of RSS-Nazi memes showing Modi and Amit Shah.
 
Citizenship Act protests: Thousands held across India for defying ban

Indian police have detained thousands who defied a ban on protests against a controversial new citizenship law.

The ban has been imposed in parts of the capital Delhi, and throughout the states of Uttar Pradesh and Karnataka.

Mobile data services are suspended in some parts of Delhi close to protest sites. There have been days of protests across India, some violent.

The new law offers citizenship to non-Muslim illegal immigrants from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan.

The police order, based on a severely restrictive law, prohibits more than four people from gathering in a place.

Among those detained are Ramachandra Guha, a prominent historian and outspoken critic of the government, in the southern city of Bangalore; and political activist in Yogendra Yadav in Delhi.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-50833361


World's biggest democracy in action.
 
Pretty soft stance taken by govt. They should have been more harsh towards these goons who are vandalizing public property, throwing stones at police and setting vehicles on fire. We all know their motive and why they are doing it and it has nothing to do with CAB. But govt need to be more strict.
 
Bel_Homme said:
Pretty soft stance taken by govt. They should have been more harsh towards these goons who are vandalizing public property, throwing stones at police and setting vehicles on fire. We all know their motive and why they are doing it and it has nothing to do with CAB. But govt need to be more strict.
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Govt is clever. The ordinary public is suffering and they know which side is fanning the protest. Result will be known in elections.
 
Well cellphone services are gone police basically damaged property but somehow thr govn doesn’t take much action when their vote bank Jats damaged non - Jat businesses in Haryana..
 
JaDed said:
Well cellphone services are gone police basically damaged property but somehow thr govn doesn’t take much action when their vote bank Jats damaged non - Jat businesses in Haryana..
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Jats are not BJP vote bank in Haryana. Thata why BJP has a non Jat CM.
 
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Looking at how big India is, civil disobedience will be it's downfall.

Not sure if they'll be able to hold onto all their states till 2050.
 
Iam done with it.
This government has no worry about economy, education, hospitals,jobs,roads etc.
Instead of that they are interested in Triple Talaq, Article 370, CAB,NRC.
This country is going down 10 years back.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Looking at how big India is, civil disobedience will be it's downfall.

Not sure if they'll be able to hold onto all their states till 2050.
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This is not about your wishes, these movements are nothing compared to 1975-1977 ones!
 
andy0204 said:
Iam done with it.
This government has no worry about economy, education, hospitals,jobs,roads etc.
Instead of that they are interested in Triple Talaq, Article 370, CAB,NRC.
This country is going down 10 years back.
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You had some hope from the govn?
 
JaDed said:
This is not about your wishes, these movements are nothing compared to 1975-1977 ones!
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This is not a movement but arson and riot, and will lose the moral upperhand they had after jamia crackdown. btw can you give me the reason why you are against CAA?
 
JaDed said:
claim
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state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.


So yeah makes sense..got it
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Calm down.
I wasn't even talking about this event specifically.

Looking at how big India is, a single event can lead to the disintegration of India. This is a pretty fair assumption to make.

No need to get triggered over it. Lol
 
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Ronaldo7 said:
Calm down.
I wasn't even talking about this event specifically.

Looking at how big India is, a single event can lead to the disintegration of India. This is a pretty fair assumption to make.

No need to get triggered over it. Lol
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? How am i triggered , just letting know you are right to say claim..
 
CricketCartoons said:
This is not a movement but arson and riot, and will lose the moral upperhand they had after jamia crackdown. btw can you give me the reason why you are against CAA?
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No discrimination on religion i support the law as such , yes whatever happened in 1947, we were formed as secular.

I have seen your response on this where you said reservations based on caste, I agree but discrimination on caste is still there.
 
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CricketCartoons said:
There are many reasons to criticize the govt, and modi. But not for this new law. The protests don't have any merit and are being done mostly be people who are not aware what this law says.
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Forget about protest for a moment
First of all this country is crowded with 1.3 billion people and you are bringing imigrants i dont care whether he/she is Hindu or Muslim,already there is unemployment in most of the states and for building detention camps it costs 3,000 people at a cost of Rs 46 crore suppose if we are buliding this in all over the country how much it will cost.
Secondly we are living in a country who is drowing in debt and govt wants immigrants in a country where there are more internal problems.
What iam saying focus must be on economy and unemployment.
 
andy0204 said:
Forget about protest for a moment
First of all this country is crowded with 1.3 billion people and you are bringing imigrants i dont care whether he/she is Hindu or Muslim,already there is unemployment in most of the states and for building detention camps it costs 3,000 people at a cost of Rs 46 crore suppose if we are buliding this in all over the country how much it will cost.
Secondly we are living in a country who is drowing in debt and govt wants immigrants in a country where there are more internal problems.
What iam saying focus must be on economy and unemployment.
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You just gave into right wing, unfortunate
 
JaDed said:
This is what they wanted the flip flop opinions by Liberals and Muslims unless you were ok to not have any refugees period even before this aka Rohingya, Afghans, Syrians in any country.
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If the economy is good you can allow immigrants from anywhere.
 
andy0204 said:
Forget about protest for a moment
First of all this country is crowded with 1.3 billion people and you are bringing imigrants i dont care whether he/she is Hindu or Muslim,already there is unemployment in most of the states and for building detention camps it costs 3,000 people at a cost of Rs 46 crore suppose if we are buliding this in all over the country how much it will cost.
Secondly we are living in a country who is drowing in debt and govt wants immigrants in a country where there are more internal problems.
What iam saying focus must be on economy and unemployment.
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Such a right wing comment. Disappointed.

But if you follow that point of view then you must be in favour of removing all illegal immigrants and refugees, deporting them, or putting them in detention camps.
 
JaDed said:
No discrimination on religion i support the law as such , yes whatever happened in 1947, we were formed as secular.

I have seen your response on this where you said reservations based on caste, I agree but discrimination on caste is still there.
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This is positive discrimination. It is not like others will not get citizenship. Just that minority refugees will get preference. Just a few days ago a Pakistani muslim lady of indian origin was given citizenship.
 
CricketCartoons said:
This is positive discrimination. It is not like others will not get citizenship. Just that minority refugees will get preference. Just a few days ago a Pakistani muslim lady of indian origin was given citizenship.
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She had moved there post 1999, just moved back later after her husband’s death.

Discrimination can be on ethnicity as well, also Shias, Ahmedis aren’t included..

Minorities could be a lot of things ethnicity, religion govn has left that part out.. and even religion isn’t covered completely..
 
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JaDed said:
She had moved there post 1999, just moved back later after her husband’s death.

Discrimination can be on ethnicity as well, also Shias, Ahmedis aren’t included..

Minorities could be a lot of things ethnicity, religion govn has left that part out.. and even religion isn’t covered completely..
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So your issue with it being incomplete, but in the right direction. Discrimination can be based on so many things, race, religion, ethnicity, sect, caste, wealth. Do you want the act to accommodate all such identity matrix?
 
CricketCartoons said:
So your issue with it being incomplete, but in the right direction. Discrimination can be based on so many things, race, religion, ethnicity, sect, caste, wealth. Do you want the act to accommodate all such identity matrix?
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Upto an extent yes, I have no issue with the bill as I have said before..
In below video I want both to get it..

 
This is a popular protest with a definite mass based appeal. How effective or popular we'll find out, or even how long it lasts

But don't tell me this is a show run by hooligans or a fringe element. I don't care what your 'sources' say, get there on the streets and find out for yourself.

And yes, this government run by the two guys- it's now bordering on fascism.
 
NEW DELHI: Indian authorities on Thursday clamped down on demonstrations against a contentious citizenship law, invoking a measure to prohibit public gatherings in two states and parts of the nation's capital, together home to more than 260 million people.
A coalition of civil society groups called for rallies across the country on Thursday to voice opposition to the law, which opponents say is discriminatory and violates India's constitution. The law creates a fast-track to citizenship for migrants from six religions who arrived in India by 2014, but excludes Muslims.

In Delhi, hundreds of peaceful protesters gathered near one of the city's major monuments to begin a march, but police imposed a measure that forbids gatherings of four or more people, effectively making protests illegal. Police detained protesters and took them away in buses.

Internet service was also suspended in some parts of the city, said an employee of a cellular company who spoke on the condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to discuss the matter. India leads the world in the number of Internet shutdowns, which authorities say are a way to prevent violence and unrest.

Protests have erupted against the law in recent days and some have turned violent. On Sunday, police stormed a university campus in Delhi, striking unarmed students and firing tear gas into the library. The protests are the most sustained show of opposition to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi since he came to power in 2014.

In Bangalore, the capital of the state of Karnataka, protesters holding signs were shunted away by police after authorities invoked the same measure, known as Section 144, to disallow public gatherings. Among those detained was Ramachandra Guha, one of India's most distinguished historians.

"This is totally wrong," he said in a video from the scene. "Our paranoid rulers in Delhi are scared" of a peaceful protest.

All of Uttar Pradesh, India's largest state and home to 200 million people, was placed under Section 144 restrictions on Thursday. The state's director-general of police, O.P. Singh, told reporters that no protest would be permitted in the state.

"Parents are advised to counsel their kids and ask them not to participate in any kind of protest, and if they do, police will take action against them," he said.

In Delhi, authorities shut down more than 15 subway stations, snarling transportation. Police set up barricades close to the site of the planned protest at the city's Red Fort, making it difficult to reach.

The citizenship law is "unconstitutional," said 24-year-old student Swati Khanna, 24, before she was taken away by police officers. "India is becoming a police state but we will reclaim it."

Further protests were expected elsewhere in the country later on Thursday, including in the eastern city of Kolkata and in the financial capital, Mumbai. The governments of those cities' respective states, West Bengal and Maharashtra, are not controlled by PM Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party, and local authorities have allowed the demonstrations to proceed.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...ts-foreign-media-2151478?pfrom=home-topscroll
 
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CricketCartoons said:
Such a right wing comment. Disappointed.

But if you follow that point of view then you must be in favour of removing all illegal immigrants and refugees, deporting them, or putting them in detention camps.
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Call me whatever you want,if you really worried about Refugees then why you don't show that same worries for poor people living here,lots of farmers are doing suicide.
There is lots of unemployment here.
How many people are surviving without food?
You don't know I know I have seen people who are really struggling with their lives.
Iam done with it and Iam not going to reply any of the post related to this.
 
andy0204 said:
Call me whatever you want,if you really worried about Refugees then why you don't show that same worries for poor people living here,lots of farmers are doing suicide.
There is lots of unemployment here.
How many people are surviving without food?
You don't know I know I have seen people who are really struggling with their lives.
Iam done with it and Iam not going to reply any of the post related to this.
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I am not calling whatever I want.

Your opinion is text book right wing opinion. It seems you disagree. Throw away all illiegal immigrants and refugees from the country: What political spectrum does this opinion fall in?
 
CricketCartoons said:
I am not calling whatever I want.

Your opinion is text book right wing opinion. It seems you disagree. Throw away all illiegal immigrants and refugees from the country: What political spectrum does this opinion fall in?
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Like I said Iam done with it so no comments.
 
If anything, this only makes our resolve stronger. The other side revealed their hand - the mental rot is so strong that they're willing to riot and vandalize just for the sake of opposing Modi/BJP. The dimwits can't even properly explain what they're "protesting" against when you stick a mic in front of them. They've been brainwashing the masses through their textbooks and media for 70 years, it'll take decades on our end to reverse it. We're in it for the long haul :sachin
 
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The BJP guy is clearing talking in an Us vs Them way but the words have been twisted a bit.

He says that we are watching 'you' setting fire everywhere, to public places and things. There is a limit to our patience. Remember what you did to the kar sevaks and what we responded with....


The government using force has turned this whole thing around and is bringing it dangerously close to a Hindu-Muslim thing where it was earlier 'Muslims + opposition' vs Modi-Shah.

Everyone's talking about two shot dead in Mangalore, but it must also be kept in mind that a policeman's hand was cut off prior to the shooting.
 
andy0204 said:
Like I said Iam done with it so no comments.
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Don't run away. Have the conviction to defend your views. Being right wing is fine ( it doesn't mean extremist).

Again: where does your opinion regarding immigrants fall in the political spectrum.
 
pillionrider said:
The BJP guy is clearing talking in an Us vs Them way but the words have been twisted a bit.

He says that we are watching 'you' setting fire everywhere, to public places and things. There is a limit to our patience. Remember what you did to the kar sevaks and what we responded with....


The government using force has turned this whole thing around and is bringing it dangerously close to a Hindu-Muslim thing where it was earlier 'Muslims + opposition' vs Modi-Shah.

Everyone's talking about two shot dead in Mangalore, but it must also be kept in mind that a policeman's hand was cut off prior to the shooting.
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Mangaluru is a highly communal place. I hope the situation doesn’t escalate to the level of godhra.
 
pillionrider said:
The BJP guy is clearing talking in an Us vs Them way but the words have been twisted a bit.

He says that we are watching 'you' setting fire everywhere, to public places and things. There is a limit to our patience. Remember what you did to the kar sevaks and what we responded with....


The government using force has turned this whole thing around and is bringing it dangerously close to a Hindu-Muslim thing where it was earlier 'Muslims + opposition' vs Modi-Shah.

Everyone's talking about two shot dead in Mangalore, but it must also be kept in mind that a policeman's hand was cut off prior to the shooting.
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It was always going to be a this.

The moment the opposition started organising muslims against this, it was always going to be a muslim vs non muslim thing.

Opposition thought it was great opportunity to het the muslim votes. While BJP did just enough to control riots but let it loose enough to cause the common man to suffer. Both sides played their cards.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A BJP worker and five associates, each of them in lungi and skullcap, were detained by Murshidabad police after local people allegedly caught them throwing stones at a train engine.<a href="https://t.co/GbBRtjQYZL">https://t.co/GbBRtjQYZL</a></p>— The Telegraph (@ttindia) <a href="https://twitter.com/ttindia/status/1207892130888212480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote>
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New Delhi: Hours after Bhim Army chief Chandrashekhar Azad led a massive protest against the new citizenship law at Delhi's Jama Masjid, hundreds of protestors took to the streets of the national capital this evening in fresh protests against the controversial law.

In dramatic visuals protesters can be seen gathering on the streets of as Delhi Police block a protest march from Jama Masjid to Jantar Mantar in central Delhi.

The protestors have been stopped at Delhi Gate by cops, who deployed anti-riot Vajra vehicles, and resorted to water cannons and lathi-charges to disperse the crowd and control the situation.

A vehicle has been set on fire outside the Daryaganj Police Station.

Delhi Metro has closed 17 stations in response to the violence, including the busy Rajiv Chowk, Pragati Maidan and Khan Market stations to restrict movement of the protestors.

"Entry and exit gates of Rajiv Chowk, Pragati Maidan and Khan Market are closed. Interchange facility is available at Rajiv Chowk," the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) said according to news agency PTI. Earlier, Johri Enclave, Shiv Vihar and Dilshad Garden stations were among those closed.

This evening's protest is the latest in a series of confrontations between Delhi Police and members of the public; on Thursday prohibitory orders were imposed and internet suspended in parts of the city, including ITO where several newspapers are based.

On Tuesday afternoon a school bus was damaged and a police booth was set on fire as clashes erupted at Seelampur in east Delhi. The police used batons and fired tear gas shells as some 2,000 protesters threw stones and set fire to vehicles.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/hun...-citizenship-act-2151984?pfrom=home-topscroll
 
lol this is like some movie

In a dramatic sequence of events, Bhim Army chief Chandrashekhar Azad was on Friday detained from outside Jama Masjid, where thousands of people gathered to protest against the amended Citizenship Act, but managed to give the police the slip.

Azad, whose Bhim Army had given the call for a protest march from Jama Masjid to Jantar Mantar, managed to escape under the nose of the police amid resistance from the crowd. Chandrashekhar Azad ran from house to house and jumped across terraces to avoid getting caught.
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SOURCE
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Total number of deaths in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndiaProtests?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#IndiaProtests</a> since they began now stands at 13. <br><br>Again, just need to remind everyone that this is happening in 'world's largest democracy'. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/India?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#India</a> <a href="https://t.co/lyMpEt63Ot">https://t.co/lyMpEt63Ot</a></p>— Xmas FJ (@Natsecjeff) <a href="https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff/status/1208021903744606209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 20, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Stone gang in fake skullcap held by Murshidabad police
BJP says its worker not involved in attack on train engine


A youth known locally as a BJP worker and five associates, each of them in lungi and skullcap, were detained by Murshidabad police on Wednesday after local people allegedly caught them throwing stones at a train engine.

Chief minister Mamata Banerjee on Thursday alleged, without mentioning this incident, that the BJP was buying skullcaps for its workers to wear while going on the rampage to try and deflect blame on a particular community.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi had on Sunday said the protesters against the Citizenship (Amendment) Act could be “identified by their clothes”.


Officers in Murshidabad said that residents of Radhamadhabtala village had caught and handed over the six youths after seeing them throwing stones at a Sealdah-bound trial engine travelling on the Sealdah-Lalgola line. They said the six included Abhishek Sarkar, 21, a local BJP worker.

“The youths claimed they had worn lungis and skullcaps for the sake of a video they were shooting for their YouTube channel. But they could not prove the existence of any such channel,” district police chief Mukesh said.

Radhamadhabtala residents said Abhishek, who lives in neighbouring Srisnagar, was seen at the forefront of all local BJP rallies.

“We became suspicious when we saw the youths change their clothes near the railway line,” a villager said on Thursday. “We knew Abhishek as he is very vocal about his views. So we decided to confront them.”

Sources said a seventh member of the group fled after being accosted. The other six were being questioned at Behrampore police station on Thursday.

Local BJP sources confirmed that Sarkar was a party worker but BJP district president Gouri Sankar Ghosh said: “He is not a member of our party. We don’t know anything about the incident in Radhamadhabtala.”

In Calcutta, Mamata told a rally on Rani Rashmoni Avenue: “On Friday, we have a protest meeting at Park Circus after the prayers. I request everybody to maintain peace.”

She added: “Don’t fall into the BJP’s trap. They are trying very hard to turn this into a fight between Hindus and Muslims, when it’s anything but…. We have received intelligence that the BJP has been buying skullcaps for its workers. They are wearing them to get photographed and filmed while vandalising public property… to malign a community.

“I urge our younger generation not to believe everything they see on social media. The BJP has been misusing the crores at its disposal to spread fake news and videos to incite violence and hatred.”

A Radhamadhabtala resident said the Sealdah-Lalgola tracks passing through the village had been a site of tensions last weekend. “We ensured calm after much struggle this week, and cannot tolerate such negative intentions,” he added, alluding to the six detained youths.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/amp/...-police/cid/1728657?__twitter_impression=true
 
pillionrider said:
Ask Mayawati who thinks this guy was created by the BJP, the same way BJP thought AAP was created by the Congress.
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Mayawati fought the elections with this guys support.

Problem is people dont understand, a few 100 or 1000 dont matter in a vote of 100s of millions.

The silent majority lets its opinion known by votes.
 
The protesters are hurting their own cause by blocking traffic and damaging property. I know three people who have changed their opinion regarding CAA and NRC. They are traditionally Congress voters and usually very critical of every move of current government. They now support NRC! One of the guy said that now he can see what these people can do and wants government to give shoot at sight orders. The other two guys were not so angry but said that something needs to be done to get the protesters under control.

I guess the coming Delhi state election results would provide a better insight into the actual public view regarding this matter.
 
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Redchilly007 said:
The protesters are hurting their own cause by blocking traffic and damaging property. I know three people who have changed their opinion regarding CAA and NRC. They are traditionally Congress voters and usually very critical of every move of current government. They now support NRC! One of the guy said that now he can see what these people can do and wants government to give shoot at sight orders. The other two guys were not so angry but said that something needs to be done to get the protesters under control.

I guess the coming Delhi state election results would provide a better insight into the actual public view regarding this matter.
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The question you and your friend should be asking is, every time when the police needs to start dispersing protests, how do vehicles start burning and the innocent genuine protestors bear the wrath of the police?? Ask yourself what is really happening.
 
kaayal said:
The question you and your friend should be asking is, every time when the police needs to start dispersing protests, how do vehicles start burning and the innocent genuine protestors bear the wrath of the police?? Ask yourself what is really happening.
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No need to do that as plenty of video proof is there.
The innocent genuine protesters don't throw stones at cops.
They are as innocent as their stone throwing brothers in Kashmir who shield terrorists.
 
Redchilly007 said:
No need to do that as plenty of video proof is there.
The innocent genuine protesters don't throw stones at cops.
They are as innocent as their stone throwing brothers in Kashmir who shield terrorists.
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I know i am talking to a BJP IT shill but still i will reply to you so that others use their brain.

Breaking a protest by adding paid riot instigators is an old strategy happening since union workers' strikes in 1970s.
Every political party is aware of this strategy. Government and police of every state is aware of such instigators. Depending on the government in each state, such instigators are either threatened to not get engaged or ordered to create mess before protests are about to take place. It's not like a sudden terrorist attack where no one is prepared.

And another simple question, why would any of the protestors burn public property, knowing that it defeats the purpose of their protest?

Imagine this now. No matter which party you support or don't support and proceed to join a protest tomorrow or ten years later against whichever government holding power at that time... would you do such a thing?
 
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