Debunking Kargil Myths & How Pakistan Captured Point 5353

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Let's discuss the ground realities of what happened here:

Kargil peaks captured by Pakistan in 1999
  • Point 5353
  • Point Aftab-I
  • Point Saddle Ridge
  • Point Bunker Ridge
  • Shangruti
  • Tiger Hill
  • Dhalunag

Kargil peaks still under Pakistani control as of 2019:
  • Point 5353
  • Point Aftab-I
  • Point Saddle Ridge
  • Point Bunker Ridge
  • Shangruti
  • Dhalunag

Pakistan still occupies key Drass point
By Praveen Swami

Pakistan soldiers perched at peak 5353, on the strategic Marpo La Ridge had a grandstand view of this year's Vijay Diwas celebrations, marking the official end of the Kargil war. At least some of them must had wry smiles on their faces, for although peak 5353 metres is inside the Indian side of the Line of Control (LoC), Pakistani troops held the mountain through the Kargil war and continue to do so today.

Artillery observers on peak 5353 metres can direct accurate artillery fire on to up to 20 km of the National Highway 1A, and cripple Indian defensive positions from Mushkoh to Bhimbet. Indian troops are being forced to compensate for this tactical blunder by engaging in a series of operations in the Batalik sector.

Pakistani occupation of point 5353 means Operation Vijay's core objective in Drass, securing the highway, in effect failed. Officials in New Delhi attempt to argue that point 5353 is in an ambiguous location on the Line of Control, and that there are two peaks of the same height which are being confused, claims debunked by copies of the Army's own maps which are in Business Line's possession.

Senior Army commanders in Drass are just as evasive. Asked if Pakistan was indeed in occupation of the peak, 8 Mountain Division Commander Major General Satnam Singh replied that it was ''too early to say''. Asked again, Gen. Singh said he would ''provide authentic information'' during this correspondent's ''next trip''. The strange story of peak 5353 began with the end of Operation Vijay, and the proclamation of a national triumph at Kargil.

Point 5353, like the features around it, had been occupied by Pakistani troops at the start of the Kargil war. Indian soldiers, however, were nowhere near its summit when hostilities were pronounced to have ended. All that had been achieved was the occupation of two secondary positions on the Marpo La ridge line, Charlie 6 and Charlie 7. Pakistani troops also remained on point 5240, some 1200 metres as the crow flies from point 5353. 56 Brigade Commander Amar Aul, in charge of the operations to secure point 5353, responded by occupying two heights on the Pakistani side of the LoC, 4875 and 4251, just before the ceasefire came into force.

Com. Aul's tactics, evidently under political pressure to bring about as quick an end to hostilities as possible, were designed to secure a subsequent territorial exchange. In mid-August, 1999, his efforts to bring about a deal bore fruit. Extended negotiations between the Brigadier and a Pakistani interlocutor, who called himself Colonel Saqlain, led to both sides committing themselves to leave points 5353, 5240, 4251 and 4875 unoccupied.

Both Indian and Pakistani troops were now pulled back to their pre-Kargil position, leaving an arial distance of about a kilometre between the armies along most of the Marpo La ridge. The deal wasn't ideal, for point 5353 was of enormously more strategic importance to India than either 4251 or 4875 were for Pakistan, but it was better than nothing.

Towards the end of October, things began to go horribly wrong. Commander Aul tasked the 16 Grenadiers to take point 5240 and the 1-3 Gurkha Rifles to occupy 5353, choosing to violate the August agreement rather than risk the prospect that Pakistan might reoccupy these positions again. While the 16 Grenadiers attack proceeded as planned, despite bad weather, the 1-3 Gurkha Rifles, for reasons which are still not clear, never made their way up 5353. When Pakistani troops detected the Indian presence on 52 40, they promptly launched a counter assault on 5353. Seven days later, in early November, the Grenadiers unit on 5240 watched Pakistan take up positions on the more important peak.

Pakistan moved rapidly to consolidate its position on 5353. Concrete bunkers came up on the peak, and a road was constructed to the base of the peak from Benazir Post, Pakistan's most important permanent position in the area. In the meanwhile, Commander Aul considered plans to retake the peak. He didn't have much choice. India's positions on 5240 were under threat, along with positions of the 2 Naga in Mushkoh, the 2 Grenadiers in Drass, and the 8 Sikh in Bhimbet. Offensives were discussed in January an d February this year, and again in May and August, but had to be abandoned each time because of the risks involved.

With 5353 and its adjoining area now linked by road to Pakistan's rear headquarters at Gultari, and defensive positions heavily fortified, any frontal attack would mean a full-blown resumption of hostilities in Drass.

The Army's tactics in Kargil now appear to centre around forcing a territorial swap for 5353. The worst of the fighting has come in the Batalik area, to the east of Kargil, where Indian troops have been ordered to take any unoccupied positions they discover on the Pakistan side of the LoC.

In one such operation on April 8, a company of the 14 Sikh Regiment occupied point 5310, an unheld peak roughly one kilometre air distance on the Pakistan side of the LoC. Subedar Bhatnam Singh and one soldier were killed in an avalanche during the operation.

Pakistan retaliation has been prompt. On the night of July 27, a group of 24 porters and four soldiers carrying material for an offensive from Gol Tekri to Rock Fall, facing the key Chorbat La range, were ambushed by Pakistani troops or irregulars. One porter was killed, and three are still missing, presumed dead. There is little doubt that the Pakistani ambush was laid deep in Indian territory for Kalashnikov empties, with a short range, were recovered from the ambush site. The incident followed the destruction, in May, of a new Pakistani post with a shoulder-held missile.

While the Union Government's propaganda on the Kargil War has allowed it to score propaganda points, the end of the conflict is, clearly, not quite yet in sight.

Quotes

"Pakistan is occupying at least six strategically located Indian peaks in the Kargil sector along the Line of Control" - Rajya Sabha member & senior criminal advocate R K Anand. (30 August 2000)

"Point 5353 is very strategic. In 1992-93, the then corps commander (of India) decided to make a shift pocket on this point and sent personnel there by helicopter. The officers posted there successfully cut off the entire supply to the Pakistani pockets along the LoC for nearly two months."...he said the Indian Army then claimed that point 5353 is "within our LoC and that we have every right to patrol the area." - Rajya Sabha member & senior criminal advocate R K Anand. (30 August 2000)

"Indian troops had tried to capture Point 5353 on May 18, 1999 when army operations were beginning in Operation Vijay in Kargil last year. But it failed...the operation was carried out by a team of soldiers led by Major Navneet Mehta."..."It is not possible to carry out an assault from the northwestern, western and south western approaches,"..."attack on 5353 called off due to bad weather" and that "13 OR (other ranks) injured in Maj Navneet's Pl (platoon) due to difficult trn (terrain)". - Rajya Sabha member & senior criminal advocate R K Anand. (30 August 2000)

"If the army's argument that Point 5353 was never India's is to be accepted, then why did they launch the attack?" - Rajya Sabha member & senior criminal advocate R K Anand. (30 August 2000)

"It looks like our army commanders are wrongly briefing the defence minister," he said when Fernandes' statement was pointed out. "The defence minister mislead Parliament on the basis of the briefing by army officers," Anand said, while demanding action against senior army commanders. - Rajya Sabha member & senior criminal advocate R K Anand. (30 August 2000)

Sources:

'Commander ordered capture of Point 5353 in Kargil war', By Praveen Swami. NEW DELHI, 29 June 2000 - THE HINDU
http://www.thehindu.com/2004/06/30/stories/2004063006391100.htm

'Pakistan still occupies key Drass point', by Praveen Swami. DRASS, 10 August 2000 - THE HINDU
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2000/08/11/stories/14115502.htm

'Fact and fiction on Point 5353; The defence establishment's response to the controversy over Point 5353 plumbs new depths' by Praveen Swami. 30 September 2000 - FRONTLINE
http://www.frontline.in/static/html/fl1720/17200340.htm

‘6 Kargil heights in Pak control’. NEW DELHI, 30 August 2000 - Tribune India
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2000/20000831/main4.htm

'Pakistan occupying six Indian peaks, claims MP' by Josy Joseph. NEW DELHI, 30 August 2000 - REDIFF
http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/aug/30josy.htm

'Not convinced we won Kargil: Lt Gen Kishan Pal to NDTV' by Nitin Gokhale. NEW DELHI 31 May 2010 00:36 IST - NDTV
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/not-convinced-we-won-kargil-lt-gen-kishan-pal-to-ndtv-419433

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/904482.stm

http://www.ipcs.org/event-report/3r...india-revises-time-frame-of-war/1/254326.html

https://www.telegraphindia.com/1020828/asp/frontpage/story_1144073.asp
 
everyone knows it, except some indians, wait for the Spin Doctor joshila to spin it.
 
Indians were still denying their plane went down till we produced video evidence. Nothing they can say can be trusted.
 
Indians were still denying their plane went down till we produced video evidence. Nothing they can say can be trusted.

On the contrary, Pakistan only until recently failed miserably at winning the media war. This shifted after the recent "air strikes" where ISPR did a great job in exposing the scam that it was.

10 years too late, but I guess better late than never.
 
There are 10,000 news articles about any major event on the internet, and it is always possible to find 10 that claim that the sun rises in the West.

Here is a view of the Kargil War from a Pakistani channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9TS_ddeEg

On the Wikipedia article on Kargil War, it says the "Result: Decisive Indian victory; India regains possession of Kargil" and "Territorial changes: None".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

Unlike random sources on the internet, Wikipedia does go through a form of peer review. And the editors are from all over the world, so articles on important events are well scrutinized.

I would say that if the OP and other posters really believe Pakistan "won" the Kargil War, they should go to the Wikipedia article and change it. Posting nonsense on PP is easy, posting nonsense on Wikipedia invites peer review.

Before you try to refute my post, answer the question "Why did you not go to Wikipedia and change the "Result" of the Kargil War?".

One can happily go through life believing conspiracy theories, and I do not have the time or energy to try to disabuse the believers, so as usual no replies unless I see something intelligent.
 
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Good job, rambo. You must now petition your government to institute a national day to celebrate Kargil victory. Similar to that annual holiday you get for the 1965 victory.

The sacrifices must never be forgotten and it's only fair.
 
There are 10,000 news articles about any major event on the internet, and it is always possible to find 10 that claim that the sun rises in the West.

Here is a view of the Kargil War from a Pakistani channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9TS_ddeEg

On the Wikipedia article on Kargil War, it says the "Result: Decisive Indian victory; India regains possession of Kargil" and "Territorial changes: None".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War

Unlike random sources on the internet, Wikipedia does go through a form of peer review. And the editors are from all over the world, so articles on important events are well scrutinized.

I would say that if the OP and other posters really believe Pakistan "won" the Kargil War, they should go to the Wikipedia article and change it. Posting nonsense on PP is easy, posting nonsense on Wikipedia invites peer review.

Before you try to refute my post, answer the question "Why did you not go to Wikipedia and change the "Result" of the Kargil War?".

One can happily go through life believing conspiracy theories, and I do not have the time or energy to try to disabuse the believers, so as usual no replies unless I see something intelligent.

Kargil peaks still under Pakistani control as of 2019:

Point 5353
Point Aftab-I
Point Saddle Ridge
Point Bunker Ridge
Shangruti
Dhalunag

is this true or not ? Yes Or No. simple.
 
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION]

If you go through the article, 90% are by one man, pravin swami.

Typical congi hit job at a successful bjp govt operation.

If pakistan had the ability to hit the highway, they would have hit it atleast after balakot.
 
Good job, rambo. You must now petition your government to institute a national day to celebrate Kargil victory. Similar to that annual holiday you get for the 1965 victory.

The sacrifices must never be forgotten and it's only fair.

But but pakistan said they were not army men but Mujahids and refused their bodies.
 
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION]

If you go through the article, 90% are by one man, pravin swami.

Typical congi hit job at a successful bjp govt operation.

If pakistan had the ability to hit the highway, they would have hit it atleast after balakot.


And the whole word proved Balakot strike as Bollywood movie stunt and after that, what we struck? Whole world saw and witnessed it too along with your people/media.
 
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION]

If you go through the article, 90% are by one man, pravin swami.

Typical congi hit job at a successful bjp govt operation.

If pakistan had the ability to hit the highway, they would have hit it atleast after balakot.

Pak had and has the ability and we did hit where it mattered then dropped your ego and plan out of the sky.

Pak has PM who isn't radicalized extremists and wasn't desperate to win any election.

This guy has only one purpose, try to spin everything and anything that make India look bad but why? Most of the hindutva already believe in your narrative. lol

You need a cup of tea to calm down, lol
 
Pak had and has the ability and we did hit where it mattered then dropped your ego and plan out of the sky.

Pak has PM who isn't radicalized extremists and wasn't desperate to win any election.

This guy has only one purpose, try to spin everything and anything that make India look bad but why? Most of the hindutva already believe in your narrative. lol

You need a cup of tea to calm down, lol

I know what you did there :)))
 
Wonderful. The myth that India had the upper hand in Kargil has been truly debunked. Any Indian who considers it a success for India should be referred to this thread.

I think it is now safe to conclude that Kargil was Pakistan’s most impressive victory over India after 1971 war, where we thrashed India so bad that we celebrated by granting East Pakistan independence, showcasing an unprecedented act of generosity.
 
Wonderful. The myth that India had the upper hand in Kargil has been truly debunked. Any Indian who considers it a success for India should be referred to this thread.

I think it is now safe to conclude that Kargil was Pakistan’s most impressive victory over India after 1971 war, where we thrashed India so bad that we celebrated by granting East Pakistan independence, showcasing an unprecedented act of generosity.

Mamoon 9,000, Where is the evidence of 9,000 attendees at arena?
 
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION]

If you go through the article, 90% are by one man, pravin swami.

Typical congi hit job at a successful bjp govt operation.

If pakistan had the ability to hit the highway, they would have hit it atleast after balakot.

In an inhospitable land like Kargil, I am sure the border is fluid. There are plenty of Indian journalists who will take a contrarian or anti-Army view to get some attention. An opposition MP like Anand will also do so.

Apparently the Indian Army captured Points 4875, 4251, and 5310 which were on the Pakistani side of the LoC.

All this back and forth is pretty useless to debate. The Pakistani Army infiltrated across the LoC and were thrown back, with possibly a few changes in who controls what peak. You are right, if 5353 was so important, then NH1 would have been unusable.

The overall picture is that the Kargil War was started by the Pakistani Army to overthrow the democratically elected government of Nawaz Sharif who was succeeding in improving relations with India. They succeeded in getting rid of NS, but now Pakistan is paying a price with the Army dominated country not being able to develop modern industries, an forex rate that has risen from $1 for Rs. 59.88 (May 2006) to Rs. 161 today, and near bankruptcy.

But but pakistan said they were not army men but Mujahids and refused their bodies.

There were also Pakistani POWs from their Army who were returned to Pakistan by India: Naik Inayat Ali of 5 Northern Light Infantry, Sepoy Fazal Aman of 24 Sind, Sepoy, Hunar Shah of 5 NLI, Sepoy, Mohammad Ayaz of 4 NLI (attached with 5 NLI), Sepoy. Sher Baz Khan of 5 NLI (att.) Sepoy, Ahmed Khan of 33 FF and Sepoy Salikh Khan of 19 PoK Battalion.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99aug15/nation.htm#9
 
Kargil peaks still under Pakistani control as of 2019:

Point 5353
Point Aftab-I
Point Saddle Ridge
Point Bunker Ridge
Shangruti
Dhalunag

is this true or not ? Yes Or No. simple.

You probably won't get an answer because excel sheet does not exist.

And no way to spin it to make Pakistani army look bad.
 
In an inhospitable land like Kargil, I am sure the border is fluid. There are plenty of Indian journalists who will take a contrarian or anti-Army view to get some attention. An opposition MP like Anand will also do so.

Apparently the Indian Army captured Points 4875, 4251, and 5310 which were on the Pakistani side of the LoC.

All this back and forth is pretty useless to debate. The Pakistani Army infiltrated across the LoC and were thrown back, with possibly a few changes in who controls what peak. You are right, if 5353 was so important, then NH1 would have been unusable.

The overall picture is that the Kargil War was started by the Pakistani Army to overthrow the democratically elected government of Nawaz Sharif who was succeeding in improving relations with India. They succeeded in getting rid of NS, but now Pakistan is paying a price with the Army dominated country not being able to develop modern industries, an forex rate that has risen from $1 for Rs. 59.88 (May 2006) to Rs. 161 today, and near bankruptcy.



There were also Pakistani POWs from their Army who were returned to Pakistan by India: Naik Inayat Ali of 5 Northern Light Infantry, Sepoy Fazal Aman of 24 Sind, Sepoy, Hunar Shah of 5 NLI, Sepoy, Mohammad Ayaz of 4 NLI (attached with 5 NLI), Sepoy. Sher Baz Khan of 5 NLI (att.) Sepoy, Ahmed Khan of 33 FF and Sepoy Salikh Khan of 19 PoK Battalion.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99aug15/nation.htm#9

we are talking about peaks but somehow indians managed to portray Nawaz sharif as innocent .
 
Kargil peaks still under Pakistani control as of 2019:

Point 5353
Point Aftab-I
Point Saddle Ridge
Point Bunker Ridge
Shangruti
Dhalunag

is this true or not ? Yes Or No. simple.

Some of these may have been "on" the LoC before the war. Some of these may have been on the Indian side before the war and now controlled by Pakistan. Some peaks on the Pakistani side of LoC are now controlled by India (Points 4875, 4251, 5310 etc.). This sort of counting is pretty useless.

If you want a detailed discussion on who "won" the Kargil War go to the following discussion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kargil_War#Result_in_infobox

If you think the Result = Decisive Indian Victory is incorrect, put your arguments together and change the Wikipedia page.

Overall, as hundreds of families lost their sons and fathers, I would not say any stupid war is a "victory" for anyone. It is no consolation to the family of a dead Indian soldier that a Pakistani family also lost their son, and vice-versa.

However, the motivation behind the Kargil War and its consequences should be clearly understood if we are not to repeat stupid wars. The Pakistani generals started it with the goal of overthrowing the democratically elected government and they succeeded in that goal.
 
You probably won't get an answer because excel sheet does not exist.

And no way to spin it to make Pakistani army look bad.


Several indian ex-generals have already mentioned in their autobiographies about a couple of peaks in Pak's possession. This is common knowledge to any person who's interested in geopolitics. Maybe it's news to you.

But it had nothing to do with an inability to capture it. Quite simply the civilian leadership in India didn't think it was important enough or worth bothering about once the main objectives were achieved.
 
Just imagine what it may have been if Nawaz-Vajpayee's vision of "peace and trade first, Kashmir can be sorted out later" had been followed through.

Instead of Accenture, IBM, Google, Microsoft having their mega-offices in only Gurgaon, Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad, they would also have had similar offices in Karachi and Lahore.

Instead of 161 PKR to 1USD, it would have been 61 PKR to 1 USD.

Instead of being bankrupt, Pakistan would have had $100 B of forex reserves.

Instead we had Kargil, and Nawaz-Vajpayee's vision went down the drain...
 
Just imagine what it may have been if Nawaz-Vajpayee's vision of "peace and trade first, Kashmir can be sorted out later" had been followed through.

Instead of Accenture, IBM, Google, Microsoft having their mega-offices in only Gurgaon, Bangalore, Chennai and Hyderabad, they would also have had similar offices in Karachi and Lahore.

Instead of 161 PKR to 1USD, it would have been 61 PKR to 1 USD.

Instead of being bankrupt, Pakistan would have had $100 B of forex reserves.

Instead we had Kargil, and Nawaz-Vajpayee's vision went down the drain...

The fact that you don't understand how currencies and economics work proves you don't know whatever you're talking about :)) :)) :))
 
Several indian ex-generals have already mentioned in their autobiographies about a couple of peaks in Pak's possession. This is common knowledge to any person who's interested in geopolitics. Maybe it's news to you.

But it had nothing to do with an inability to capture it. Quite simply the civilian leadership in India didn't think it was important enough or worth bothering about once the main objectives were achieved.

Everyone knew unless you’re an Indian.
 
More than two decades have passed since Capt Karnal Sher Khan laid down his life in the service of his country in the icy, inhospitable peaks in India-occupied Kashmir, but his legacy continues to breathe life into the nation’s soul.

While many lone survivors faced the dilemma of keeping the fighting on, the ‘Lion of Kargil’ dashed alone into the Indian camp, killing several Indian soldiers before embracing martyrdom.

When his body was being returned to Pakistan, even the Indians talked of his valour; of how the young officer on a mission impossible did the honourable thing: fight to the very end. Pakistan awarded its son of soil the Nishan-i-Haider.

The pages of the nation's history are lush with tales of his militarist agility and his faith in God.

The 23rd martyrdom anniversary of Sher Khan will be observed today across the country.

The young ‘Sher’

Captain Karnal Sher Khan was a crusader from the very beginning and a very fearless officer.

Born, in 1970, the young man from Swabi first joined Pakistan Air Force (PAF) as an Airman but later joined Pakistan Army as a commissioned officer in 1992. On 14 October 1994, Khan was commissioned in the 27th Sindh Regiment of the Pakistan army – also known as the ‘Lion of Haider’ because of its bravery.

He was named Karnal Sher Khan by his grandfather who as a volunteer went to Kashmir and fought against the Indian aggressors under a commander called Colonel Sher Khan.

On November 8, 1992, when Sher arrived at the Pakistan Military Academy for training, he was no stranger to the rugged and testing training, but the harsher days and nights were going to – in the hindsight – going to prepare him for his final moments in the nation’s war against the enemy.

His colleagues reminisce about their company with him and generously offer countless anecdotes about how he was always in the good graces of his seniors and had earned admiration for his courage, perseverance, professional competence and devout piety from almost everyone.

But that was not sufficient to satisfy his appetite for goals that slowly turned his military career into a pure enthusiasm for the defence of the country. A few years later, Sher expressed his desire to be sent to the infantry.

“The infantry has the highest chance of fighting the enemy directly," he once intimated.

27th Sindh Regiment

Karnal Sher was the first officer to be posted directly in the 27th Sindh Regiment from the academy.

Lt Col Iqbal Mahmood welcomed the new officers as second in command. He explains: "Being a second-in-command, I was given the responsibility of developing Karnal Sher's professionalism and personality."

"I found Karnal Sher very serious and confident in his professional duties," he said. "Joining the Pakistan Army was my biggest dream that came true today,” Sher told Iqbal who immediately guessed that the young man wanted to do something special.

“He was not only wise but also brave, courageous and forward in every task during training. Whether it was a field of study or philosophy of warfare, a playground or a shooting competition, Sher used to receive awards for his unit everywhere. He would greatly participate in physical training, assault courses and other unit competitions,” the lieutenant colonel shared.

Deputy subedar Qasim was posted in the 27th Sindh Regiment on the same day when Captain Karnal Sher arrived at the unit. Qasim recounts that as a junior soldier, I came across a role model like Karnal Sher Khan.

“It was a great honour for me to see him active and busy in the unit at all times. This young officer on a bicycle was at the forefront of every unit.”

Qasim, who spent much of the time with Sher during physical labours, explains that, "Karnal Sher Khan was accustomed to physical exertion. He was unmatched in PT, drill and various activities. He would take the unit's shooting team to practice at the firing range, explain various techniques to them, and encourage them. He would be seen riding a bicycle or a motorcycle all the time and would play his part in every unity activity”.

On October 17, 1996, he was promoted to the rank of captain. A ceremony was held to celebrate his rank. At the ceremony, Karnal Sher also presented a model of a G3 rifle to his unit. That model is still preserved in the 27th Sindh Regiment and is a milestone for its soldiers and officers.

Karnal Sher Khan would spend the entire day in the sweltering sun during the firing range. While he was preparing his team, several others were practising their shooting skills at the firing range.

Karnal Sher Khan would have rushed to the target as soon as the fire was ended, even though it goes against security protocols. But he always said, "I won't be killed by the bullet that didn't belong to me, and the bullet that has my name written on it will kill me."

During the Kargil conflict, he was assigned to clear a vital position. He and his fellow soldiers ignored the firepower of the opponents and bravely managed to push them back. Captain Karnal Sher Khan led the charge and was able to inflict heavy losses on the enemy.

While serving in NLI On the 5th of July 1999, the enemy forces launched a furious attack to recapture the post with the support of artillery. Despite having insignificant power compared to the numerical strength of Indian ground forces, Captain Sher repulsed the attack. He was successful but received multiple bullet wounds that resulted in his shahadat.

In recognition of his valour and determination and gallantry, Captain Karnal Sher was awarded Nisha-e-Haider, the highest military award. 27 Sind Regiment was later named Sher Haidri on Aug 20, 1999, after Shaheed Karnal Sher Khan.

Captain Karnal Sher Khan was evenly praised by the rival Indian army for setting the highest standards of bravery in the battleground.

According to the Indian Express of July 17, 1999, Captain Karnal Sher Khan of Delta Company, 12 Northern Light Infantry (NLI) won the respect of Indian officers defending the Tiger Hills feature and the adjoining hills with his courage and brilliant attack. Officers of both 18 grenadiers and 8 Sikhs watched the brave Pakistani captain lead a counterattack.

The Indian officer-in-charge who witnessed his bravery placed a praise-filled note in his pocket.

Indian Brigade Commander Brigadier (retd) Mahendra Pratap Singh acknowledged his fearlessness and courage in these words: "Full-scale counterattacks have disrupted our steps under his leadership."

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2364757/remembering-the-lion-of-kargil-on-23rd-martyrdom-anniversary
 
More than two decades have passed since Capt Karnal Sher Khan laid down his life in the service of his country in the icy, inhospitable peaks in India-occupied Kashmir, but his legacy continues to breathe life into the nation’s soul.

While many lone survivors faced the dilemma of keeping the fighting on, the ‘Lion of Kargil’ dashed alone into the Indian camp, killing several Indian soldiers before embracing martyrdom.

When his body was being returned to Pakistan, even the Indians talked of his valour; of how the young officer on a mission impossible did the honourable thing: fight to the very end. Pakistan awarded its son of soil the Nishan-i-Haider.

The pages of the nation's history are lush with tales of his militarist agility and his faith in God.

The 23rd martyrdom anniversary of Sher Khan will be observed today across the country.

The young ‘Sher’

Captain Karnal Sher Khan was a crusader from the very beginning and a very fearless officer.

Born, in 1970, the young man from Swabi first joined Pakistan Air Force (PAF) as an Airman but later joined Pakistan Army as a commissioned officer in 1992. On 14 October 1994, Khan was commissioned in the 27th Sindh Regiment of the Pakistan army – also known as the ‘Lion of Haider’ because of its bravery.

He was named Karnal Sher Khan by his grandfather who as a volunteer went to Kashmir and fought against the Indian aggressors under a commander called Colonel Sher Khan.

On November 8, 1992, when Sher arrived at the Pakistan Military Academy for training, he was no stranger to the rugged and testing training, but the harsher days and nights were going to – in the hindsight – going to prepare him for his final moments in the nation’s war against the enemy.

His colleagues reminisce about their company with him and generously offer countless anecdotes about how he was always in the good graces of his seniors and had earned admiration for his courage, perseverance, professional competence and devout piety from almost everyone.

But that was not sufficient to satisfy his appetite for goals that slowly turned his military career into a pure enthusiasm for the defence of the country. A few years later, Sher expressed his desire to be sent to the infantry.

“The infantry has the highest chance of fighting the enemy directly," he once intimated.

27th Sindh Regiment

Karnal Sher was the first officer to be posted directly in the 27th Sindh Regiment from the academy.

Lt Col Iqbal Mahmood welcomed the new officers as second in command. He explains: "Being a second-in-command, I was given the responsibility of developing Karnal Sher's professionalism and personality."

"I found Karnal Sher very serious and confident in his professional duties," he said. "Joining the Pakistan Army was my biggest dream that came true today,” Sher told Iqbal who immediately guessed that the young man wanted to do something special.

“He was not only wise but also brave, courageous and forward in every task during training. Whether it was a field of study or philosophy of warfare, a playground or a shooting competition, Sher used to receive awards for his unit everywhere. He would greatly participate in physical training, assault courses and other unit competitions,” the lieutenant colonel shared.

Deputy subedar Qasim was posted in the 27th Sindh Regiment on the same day when Captain Karnal Sher arrived at the unit. Qasim recounts that as a junior soldier, I came across a role model like Karnal Sher Khan.

“It was a great honour for me to see him active and busy in the unit at all times. This young officer on a bicycle was at the forefront of every unit.”

Qasim, who spent much of the time with Sher during physical labours, explains that, "Karnal Sher Khan was accustomed to physical exertion. He was unmatched in PT, drill and various activities. He would take the unit's shooting team to practice at the firing range, explain various techniques to them, and encourage them. He would be seen riding a bicycle or a motorcycle all the time and would play his part in every unity activity”.

On October 17, 1996, he was promoted to the rank of captain. A ceremony was held to celebrate his rank. At the ceremony, Karnal Sher also presented a model of a G3 rifle to his unit. That model is still preserved in the 27th Sindh Regiment and is a milestone for its soldiers and officers.

Karnal Sher Khan would spend the entire day in the sweltering sun during the firing range. While he was preparing his team, several others were practising their shooting skills at the firing range.

Karnal Sher Khan would have rushed to the target as soon as the fire was ended, even though it goes against security protocols. But he always said, "I won't be killed by the bullet that didn't belong to me, and the bullet that has my name written on it will kill me."

During the Kargil conflict, he was assigned to clear a vital position. He and his fellow soldiers ignored the firepower of the opponents and bravely managed to push them back. Captain Karnal Sher Khan led the charge and was able to inflict heavy losses on the enemy.

While serving in NLI On the 5th of July 1999, the enemy forces launched a furious attack to recapture the post with the support of artillery. Despite having insignificant power compared to the numerical strength of Indian ground forces, Captain Sher repulsed the attack. He was successful but received multiple bullet wounds that resulted in his shahadat.

In recognition of his valour and determination and gallantry, Captain Karnal Sher was awarded Nisha-e-Haider, the highest military award. 27 Sind Regiment was later named Sher Haidri on Aug 20, 1999, after Shaheed Karnal Sher Khan.

Captain Karnal Sher Khan was evenly praised by the rival Indian army for setting the highest standards of bravery in the battleground.

According to the Indian Express of July 17, 1999, Captain Karnal Sher Khan of Delta Company, 12 Northern Light Infantry (NLI) won the respect of Indian officers defending the Tiger Hills feature and the adjoining hills with his courage and brilliant attack. Officers of both 18 grenadiers and 8 Sikhs watched the brave Pakistani captain lead a counterattack.

The Indian officer-in-charge who witnessed his bravery placed a praise-filled note in his pocket.

Indian Brigade Commander Brigadier (retd) Mahendra Pratap Singh acknowledged his fearlessness and courage in these words: "Full-scale counterattacks have disrupted our steps under his leadership."
 
I guess those were the times that Armies respected each other inspite of wars, everyone busy making money nowadays.
 
You are touching a few sore nerves here! You know how the Indian media insist their army can defeat the entire world on their own!!:yuvi
 
Jammu: On the occasion of the 23rd Kargil Vijay Diwas, Union Defence Minister Rajnath Singh on Sunday recalled the supreme sacrifice of the Indian Army and asserted that Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (PoK) is an integral part of India and said that "How is it possible that Baba Amarnath is in India and Maa Sharda Shakti is across the Line of Control (LoC)."

"A resolution has been passed in the Parliament on PoK. Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, Kashmir was a part of India, is and will remain a part of India. How can it be that Baba Amarnath in the form of Shiva is with us and Mother Sharda Shakti is on the other side of LoC," Defense Minister added while referring to the Sharda Peeth, which has the ruins of a temple to Hindu goddess Saraswati, also known as Sharda.

He was speaking at the commemoration ceremony of 'Kargil Vijay Diwas' in Jammu.

Mr Singh said that today's India is one of the most powerful countries in the world as compared to 1962 when China captured our area in Ladakh when former PM Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru was at the helm of the affairs.

"In 1962 China captured our area in Ladakh, with Pandit Nehru as our Prime Minister. I will not question his intentions. Intentions can be good but the same does not apply to policies. However, today's India is one of the most powerful countries in the world," said Defence Minister Rajnath Singh.

He spoke with the family members of security personnel who lost their lives in the line of duty in Jammu.

"Will remember those who laid their lives in service of the country. Our Army has always made this supreme sacrifice for the country. Several of our brave soldiers laid their lives in the 1999 war, I bow down to them," Mr Singh added.

To commemorate the sacrifices and valour of the soldiers, the Indian Army is gearing up for the 23rd Kargil Vijay Diwas at the Kargil War Memorial in Ladakh's Drass.

Several serving and retired army personnel, Kargil War veterans and next of kin of fallen heroes are expected to take part in the event.

The Kargil War was fought between May 8, 1999, to July 26, 1999, against Pakistan intruders, who in the winters of 1998 transgressed into the Indian territory across the Line of Control and occupied fortified defences overlooking the NH 1A in Kargil's Drass and Batalik Sectors of Ladakh region with a nefarious aim of dominating all military and civil movement on the highway.

Braving unprecedented hardships, overcoming the hazards of near impossible terrain and severe climatic conditions, brave gallant soldiers launched valiant attacks on well-fortified defended localities with relentless valour and enthusiasm, thus attaining an astounding victory.

Despite suffering heavy casualties, the soldiers repeatedly launched daring attacks under withering artillery and small arms fire. Heroic deeds, astounding bravery and unflinching determination of our soldiers forced the enemy forces to withdraw and vacate defence emplacements during the 55-day war.

Each year, Kargil Vijay Diwas is celebrated on July 26. The preparations are underway at the sleepy town of Drass, Kargil. Vijay Diwas will be held from July 24 to 26 at the Kargil War Memorial.

NDTV
 
IoK is an i integral part of Pakistan. As for Kargil many Indian generals say India won nothing too. Had Nawaz not showed his cowardice we had India by the throat.

 
Next move on India will be by China who are sitting on Indian land very comfortably. For now Pak will let ISI create havoc in India then we'll move in again at the right time. This according to smart and impartial Indian war tacticians like Pravin Swahney.
 
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