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Another eye opening thread which betrays the mentality of the RSS Extremists
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Delhi Cop Suspended For 'Kicking' Namazis At Indralok After Protest By Muslims
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Most of the people here mentioned they don’t want anyone to block public roads in a country like India irrespective of religion.
Yet your bias won’t let you move pass Muslims/Islam/Anti India/RSS.
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Yes, not wanting someone to block public property and cause nuisance to ordinary people makes you a RSS extremist
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Please don't turn the table on me.
I'm not the one who is defending every single post that demeans Islam or Pakistan.
I'm not the one who says that there should be one law for a certain group and a different law for another.
I'm also not the one that brings other countries in to it. This thread is about a police officer kicking a man that is illegally praying on the street not the BLM or a Climate Protest in the West. If you want to have that discussion then start a thread on it. You'll get factual replies I'm sure on that topic.
It's simple, if you break the law you should get punished for it. This does not involve a kicking or pushing. It involves arresting, fining or prosecution. But so far we've seen so many excuses for the actions of that Policeman, even an Indian who doesn't support BJP has received some abuse... So there is a pattern, and it always comes back to the same thing.
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No. That would make somebody an imbecile.
IMHO what makes someone an RSS Extremist are the continuous posts by certain individuals that display extreme nationalism by defending the indefensible time after time without any showing any balance. The ones who are unable to criticise their own government, we're talking about ten years in power with practically not a single bad policy decision or any wrong word said by a minister.
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This is the wrong way of looking at it. We should give credit to what is good wherever it comes from and denounce what is bad in the same way. So I have no problem denouncing cheating cops in Islamic countries like Pakistan, or praising yoga which has origins in hindu culture and also clear benefits. There is no ideal Islamic state, I doubt there ever was one, but since Pakistan claims to be one then they can be judged accordingly.
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This is a sensible take. The Muslim worshippers have shown lack of consideration for public life by blocking roads, that is my impression from the information shared so far. Why they are using roads instead of designated mosques or alternatives is something which hasn't really been elaborated on, but probably should be addressed.
The cop has behaved in an emotional and jahil manner by aiming a kick at a man performing prayers, this is unbecoming of someone who represents authority and is entrusted to show even-handedness and professional behaviour. There is two wrongs here, not a case of right vs wrong.
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This is monkey balancing. When someone does wrong, and you respond to it in a language they understand, both cannot be equated. One wrong is causing problem to ordinary people, the other "wrong" is causing problem to the person who did the first wrong.
There is NO equivalence between the reaction to a wrong action.
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I don’t support BJP or any political party for that matter, however, the fact is that these people deliberately tried to create trouble by using their religion, police everywhere in the world deal with troublemakers like this in same way.
The thing is you are seeing it as they were praying, I and any non Muslim capable of logical thinking will see them as causing trouble and not praying.
And therein lies the difference between our reactions.
I wouldn’t be surprised if these guys were paid to cause trouble before the elections. That’s how public sentiment/perception in India is changed before elections.
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You don't know how much we critize BJP in our internal discussions. But why critisize them in front of others who have their own ulterior motives.
Let me give an example. I had a bangladeshi colleague, and we used to love to discuss politics and religion. Once I told him some uncomfortable facts about India, and suddenly his eyes lit up. He said please share all these documents with me. The next day I found all the bangladeshi friends on my facebook discussing something that I was privy to, adding their own bigotry and hate on top of it. They taught me an important lesson.
Always consider the audience and the intentions when sharing any information.
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Processions are different . Even Hindus have several processions throughout the year.
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Processions should be allowed in some open field etc with prior permission irrespective of religion , not on roads.
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Yes. Processions are allowed for all religions and its with prior permission. No one objects to them.
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Why repeat this over and over again ? BJP has refused to create a national law that prevents 'looting' of temples. So even they aren't serious about this and see this is as a non-issue for hindus.
Also, what rights do you want right now that you don't have under article 30 ?
Same goes for personal laws, what rights do you want right now that only minorities have ?
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BJP cannot create a national law over this. States have different laws on this matter.
What are the rights under article 30? Are they available to Hindus?
How can hindus be governed by constitutional laws in personal matters but other religion be governed by religious laws? Let everyone have the same freedom as was the case when the constitution was originally enforced.
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That is not true, there are actual judges out there asking the centre to intervene and make laws -
Kerala High Court Requests Centre To Consider Enacting Law To Uniformly Regulate Religious & Charitable Organizations
The Kerala High Court on Thursday requested the Central Government to explore the possibility of
Also I'm asking you for specific cases of Hindus being unfairly discriminated against by Article 30; and what new legislation do you want to remedy these cases ? Please be specific otherwise we're just going around in circles.
Regarding personal laws, I'm asking you of examples of how Hindus are disadvantaged compared to muslims/christian due to their lack of personal laws.
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Every religion follower who thinks blocking the road is their birth right deserves a kick. My Hats off to the police officer if he would do the same to hindus too.
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He will be murdered. Even if he has gutts do that too a sikh , Muslims are easy targets in India. Because they are dumb.
Indian roads are dirty anyways. There is cow dung, dog waste and pan thooks everywhere. I doubt if it is even Islamic to offer prayers at such unhygienic places.
This offering prayers in public is nothing but a stunt and show of strength.
This offering prayers in public is nothing but a stunt and show of strength.
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Four Students From Foreign Countries Attacked In Gujarat University Over Namaaz; 2 Hospitalised
Nearly four international students of Gujarat University were injured after a group of men barged into the hostel last night and attacked them for allegedly offering namaaz. The students are from Uzbekistan, South Africa and Sri Lanka. Police said a probe has been initiated in this connection.
Two students - one from Sri Lanka and another from Tajikistan - were hospitalised after the incident which took place on Saturday night, news agency PTI reported quoting sources.
According to the students, they were offering 'taraweeh', a prayer offered in night during Ramadan, in their hostel as there is no mosque in the campus. Suddenly a group entered the hostel with sticks and attacked them along with vandalising their rooms. They said that their laptops, mobile phones and bikes were broken during the incident.
The group pelted stones at Block-A of the hostel and raised 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans. The men criticised the students for offering namaaz inside the hostel and asked as to who had given them permission. A minor scuffle ensued between the group and the students.
Four international students suffered injuries and were taken to the SVP Hospital for treatment. Police reached the spot after sometime and brought the situation under control. Inspector SR Bawa said that the incident took place late at night and investigations have been initiated.
On getting information about the incident, Jamalpur MLA Imran Khedawala and former MLA Ghiyasuddin Shaikh reached the spot and urged the Police Commissioner to conduct a thorough investigation.
Hyderabad MP and All India Majilis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) chief Asaduddin Owaisi condemned the incident saying "domestic anti-Muslim hatred is destroying India’s goodwill".
"What a shame. When your devotion & religious slogans only come out when Muslims peacefully practice their religion. When you become unexplainably angry at the mere sight of Muslims. What is this, if not mass radicalisation? This is the home state of @AmitShah & @narendramodi, will they intervene to send a strong message? I am not holding my breath. @DrSJaishankar domestic anti-Muslim hatred is destroying India’s goodwill," he tweeted.
Four Students from foreign countries Attacked in Gujarat University Over Namaaz; 2 hospitalised
The students said while offering namaaz inside their hostel last night, a group of men attacked them and vandalised the rooms. They said that the group raised 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans and asked them who had given them permission to offer namaaz inside hostel.
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Indian Gujarat state is the Afghanistan of Hindu Talibans.
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As this is the home state of Modi and Amit Shah, one of the two needs to make a stand. Either condemn acts of violence carried out in the name of hindu power, or affirm them, either vocally or by remaining silent, which in itself would signal tacit approval.
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Yes Gujarat state is Taliban of progress, development and business… Gujarat state GDP is higher than Pakistan
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Who asked these people to come to India or Gujarat? Could have stayed in their original Talibani Afghanistan, no?
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this incident is a plot of opposition, election around the corner… opposition want Muslim votes. Also in India Roads, railway stations, grounds, shopping malls, airports, toilets etc are public places, they are not for doing any religious thing… the same ppls happily follow these rules in UAE
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The state of gujarat can produce a hundred billionaires a day and have a higher GDP then all the Muslim countries combined, it still won't take away from the right wing Hindutva extremism
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India is my country as much as it is yours... extreme right wing orange pyjama brigade is like a cancer...
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Four Students From Foreign Countries Attacked In Gujarat University Over Namaaz; 2 Hospitalised
Nearly four international students of Gujarat University were injured after a group of men barged into the hostel last night and attacked them for allegedly offering namaaz. The students are from Uzbekistan, South Africa and Sri Lanka. Police said a probe has been initiated in this connection.
Two students - one from Sri Lanka and another from Tajikistan - were hospitalised after the incident which took place on Saturday night, news agency PTI reported quoting sources.
According to the students, they were offering 'taraweeh', a prayer offered in night during Ramadan, in their hostel as there is no mosque in the campus. Suddenly a group entered the hostel with sticks and attacked them along with vandalising their rooms. They said that their laptops, mobile phones and bikes were broken during the incident.
The group pelted stones at Block-A of the hostel and raised 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans. The men criticised the students for offering namaaz inside the hostel and asked as to who had given them permission. A minor scuffle ensued between the group and the students.
Four international students suffered injuries and were taken to the SVP Hospital for treatment. Police reached the spot after sometime and brought the situation under control. Inspector SR Bawa said that the incident took place late at night and investigations have been initiated.
On getting information about the incident, Jamalpur MLA Imran Khedawala and former MLA Ghiyasuddin Shaikh reached the spot and urged the Police Commissioner to conduct a thorough investigation.
Hyderabad MP and All India Majilis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) chief Asaduddin Owaisi condemned the incident saying "domestic anti-Muslim hatred is destroying India’s goodwill".
"What a shame. When your devotion & religious slogans only come out when Muslims peacefully practice their religion. When you become unexplainably angry at the mere sight of Muslims. What is this, if not mass radicalisation? This is the home state of @AmitShah & @narendramodi, will they intervene to send a strong message? I am not holding my breath. @DrSJaishankar domestic anti-Muslim hatred is destroying India’s goodwill," he tweeted.
Four Students from foreign countries Attacked in Gujarat University Over Namaaz; 2 hospitalised
The students said while offering namaaz inside their hostel last night, a group of men attacked them and vandalised the rooms. They said that the group raised 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans and asked them who had given them permission to offer namaaz inside hostel.
They downplayed this news. As it was a mob that attacked.
“In Block A, around 75 foreign students, who live there, were offering prayers at their hostel yesterday around 10:30pm.
“Some 20-25 people entered the hostel premises and objected to the international students offering namaz there, asking them to do so in a mosque. They argued over the issue, assaulted them and hurled stones.” - Police Commissioner G.S. Malik
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India isn't your country, neither it is of Afghans.
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^^It's more my country then yours
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Both were wrong , you just can't kicked anyone who offered prayers but at the same time there are enough worship places for prayer so they also don't have any right to block the roads .
Im wondering at op as he always open these types of threads from nowhere.
Im wondering at op as he always open these types of threads from nowhere.
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Foreign students should stop coming to India for education. Not safe.
Also, is Indian education really that great? It is not like a western country where your degree would mean something.
Foreign students should stop coming to study in India. Not safe. They also did this to Nigerian students if I remember correctly.
Also, is Indian education really that great? I mean it is a third world country. Why not go to a western country to get a degree?
Also, is Indian education really that great? It is not like a western country where your degree would mean something.
Four Students From Foreign Countries Attacked In Gujarat University Over Namaaz; 2 Hospitalised
Nearly four international students of Gujarat University were injured after a group of men barged into the hostel last night and attacked them for allegedly offering namaaz. The students are from Uzbekistan, South Africa and Sri Lanka. Police said a probe has been initiated in this connection.
Two students - one from Sri Lanka and another from Tajikistan - were hospitalised after the incident which took place on Saturday night, news agency PTI reported quoting sources.
According to the students, they were offering 'taraweeh', a prayer offered in night during Ramadan, in their hostel as there is no mosque in the campus. Suddenly a group entered the hostel with sticks and attacked them along with vandalising their rooms. They said that their laptops, mobile phones and bikes were broken during the incident.
The group pelted stones at Block-A of the hostel and raised 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans. The men criticised the students for offering namaaz inside the hostel and asked as to who had given them permission. A minor scuffle ensued between the group and the students.
Four international students suffered injuries and were taken to the SVP Hospital for treatment. Police reached the spot after sometime and brought the situation under control. Inspector SR Bawa said that the incident took place late at night and investigations have been initiated.
On getting information about the incident, Jamalpur MLA Imran Khedawala and former MLA Ghiyasuddin Shaikh reached the spot and urged the Police Commissioner to conduct a thorough investigation.
Hyderabad MP and All India Majilis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (AIMIM) chief Asaduddin Owaisi condemned the incident saying "domestic anti-Muslim hatred is destroying India’s goodwill".
"What a shame. When your devotion & religious slogans only come out when Muslims peacefully practice their religion. When you become unexplainably angry at the mere sight of Muslims. What is this, if not mass radicalisation? This is the home state of @AmitShah & @narendramodi, will they intervene to send a strong message? I am not holding my breath. @DrSJaishankar domestic anti-Muslim hatred is destroying India’s goodwill," he tweeted.
Four Students from foreign countries Attacked in Gujarat University Over Namaaz; 2 hospitalised
The students said while offering namaaz inside their hostel last night, a group of men attacked them and vandalised the rooms. They said that the group raised 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans and asked them who had given them permission to offer namaaz inside hostel.
Foreign students should stop coming to study in India. Not safe. They also did this to Nigerian students if I remember correctly.
Also, is Indian education really that great? I mean it is a third world country. Why not go to a western country to get a degree?
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Both were wrong , you just can't kicked anyone who offered prayers but at the same time there are enough worship places for prayer so they also don't have any right to block the roads .
Im wondering at op as he always open these types of threads from nowhere.
There's no mosque on campus
What about outside the campus ? I'm sure there are mosque within half km from campus but you just can't block the road to cause inconvenience for public.
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I was talking about Cop kicking incident . yes college students were beaten by mobs is not acceptable at all . Hopefully all the culprit arrested .
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Yes, it's better for them to stop going to Gujarat because Gujarat is becoming a new neo-hindu Taliban land.
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Yes perfect way for the university to shy away from responsibility. If they're not safe on campus what makes them safe outside?
University had no problem getting fees from these foreign students, they should be able to provide basic rights.
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The Afghan guy hit an Indian. If they thought locals will sit and giggle they were mistaken.
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Lol. Its a government funded University. These foreigners are studying on Indian taxpayers money.
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Stop coming to India. As if we care if some Talibani comes here or not.
And yes your attempt to paint Gujaratis as a separate place in India won't work.
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Lol. You won't even get visa to enter my country.
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So Indian government is funding education for foreign Muslim students. Highly unlikely especially in a state like Gujrat. Maybe it's free for local Indians
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Its free for everyone. Most Indian state funded universities have seats for foreign students. They are funded by taxpayers and apply via Indian embassies.
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Man you and your blatant lies. Even in this day and age where everything can be verified, you still have the audacity to lie openly like this to drive a discourse. Rest assured guys like me will continue to expose guys like you.
Is this the university and their international student fee schedule? https://www.gujaratuniversity.ac.in/internationalprogFee
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You need to read more.
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It's so evident but doesn't suite the narrative
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Last year Indian taxpayers funded 1100 plus Afghans to study in India.
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All universities offer scholarships. This is nothing new. Doesn't mean all foreign students in Gujrat university got scholarships.
And who knows what the scholarship selection process is. The way things are going in India, I'm certain only Hindus are benefitting from these.
Also Scholarships don't cover all costs. The students still spend money in the Indian economy.
This is basic stuff CJ, you have better arguments than this.
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Indian love affair with Afghans is well documented. It is your own bringing
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And we can send them back.
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Do your thing. We've been trying to send them back too
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And in retaliation they sent two to the hospital. Many more will be deported.
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We will. This is why there is the CAA.
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Another desperate case of false equivalency
So funny...haha.
However, in the first post on this thread itself I criticized the policeman for attacking the namazi person. Even though he was blocking the road, policeman should have been kind and given him some warning or something.
Here you are jumping with joy that hindu gujrati guy got slapped
Difference in class
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So funny...haha.
However, in the first post on this thread itself I criticized the policeman for attacking the namazi person. Even though he was blocking the road, policeman should have been kind and given him some warning or something.
Here you are jumping with joy that hindu gujrati guy got slapped
Difference in class
Its all about Muslims.
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It’s a collage (University) not a Madarasa
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So funny...haha.
However, in the first post on this thread itself I criticized the policeman for attacking the namazi person. Even though he was blocking the road, policeman should have been kind and given him some warning or something.
Here you are jumping with joy that hindu gujrati guy got slapped
Difference in class
Police are the representatives of the state, they should be held to a higher standard than the average Patel or Pathan. As a citizen of the highly organised and civilised United Kingdom of Great Britain you should know this. Even as an immigrant, still you should learn the culture if you wish to be part of this country.
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British police is no role model. They let the grooming gangs operate because of fear of being termed racist.
Police have to deal with the underbelly of the society. So you have to get your hands dirty if you want to clean the gutter.
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Hindu shopkeeper attacked because he was playing religious song in his shop.
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British police is not above criticism that is true, but not for the reasons you are citing. They let the grooming gangs operate because at the time there was no such classification as grooming gangs, the police themselves considered the girls on the street as wanton teen slags who weren't worth bothering with. This was reported by a female detective who quit because she claimed the police didn't take the victims seriously.
The point being we expect the highest standards from British police officers, and they were forced to make a grovelling apology when held to account.
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In August 2014, a groundbreaking report by former senior social worker Alexis Jay revealed that an estimated 1,400 children had been sexually abused in the town from 1997 to 2013, predominantly by Pakistani-British men. It revealed that council staff and others knew of the abuse but turned a blind eye to what was happening and refused to identify the perpetrators in part for fear of being branded racist.
From Al Jazeera. There were similar reports in The Independent as well.
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I don't want to divert onto a different track as I have discussed this already in the appropriate thread years ago, but the reason the council and police turned a blind eye was because they didn't care, nothing to do with fear of being branded racist. That was just their way of deflecting the blame onto the same parties criticising their lack of action. What is racist about apprehending criminals?
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It is not an attempt, the world knows it.
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This "world knows it", is very overrated sentiment. frankly world doesn't care. Human rights, liberal values are all a facade. US, UK, Russia, Israel, all doing crimes to further their interests. World may pay lip service to something, but that is it. About time indians, of all people, stop bothering about "reputation". Whatever reputation they had was of weaklings, not worth keeping.
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The world isn't limited to Pakistanis or a few Islamists.
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I think as long as they keep trying to flaunt their power (online) to failed state neighbours instead of western or eastern superpowers, they will find it hard to shake the reputation of weaklings.
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Even that reputation does not matter. Praises and criticism by west are weaponised instruments.
Whenever someone starts by saying "please don't feel bad, but", I tell them I won't even feel good if they say something good about me, so don't worry about the effect of your words and just shoot.
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I agree. The day Bharat starts coming after the great British Raj with real menace may well be the day I shall have to create a new username and identity as a Scotish Pakistani with a stick up my bottom about the English.
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Such goondas are on high in Karnataka because Muslim supporter congress government in power…. If anyone plays regional song in his house/office/shop, how it can be offended to anyone?
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Maybe @RexRex can ask his contacts who represent 200 million muslims.
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So funny...haha.
However, in the first post on this thread itself I criticized the policeman for attacking the namazi person. Even though he was blocking the road, policeman should have been kind and given him some warning or something.
Here you are jumping with joy that hindu gujrati guy got slapped
Difference in class
The policeman is in power and was in the wrong, it's something you should obviously condemn.
The Gujrati boy had no business disturbing prayers. If they had an issue they should've taken it up with the university rather than trying to become a policeman. They went there looking for trouble.
There is a difference but your 'class' won't let you see it. Spot the difference is not your forte
The policeman is in power and was in the wrong, it's something you should obviously condemn.
The Gujrati boy had no business disturbing prayers. If they had an issue they should've taken it up with the university rather than trying to become a policeman. They went there looking for trouble.
There is a difference but your 'class' won't let you see it. Spot the difference is not your forte
That guy was offering namaaz in the middle of a busy road. So policeman was not wrong in asking them to move but his actions were i.e he should not have kicked.
Here the Gujju guy is asking them why they are offering prayer here, rather go to a mosque. That namaazi guy came and slapped the taste bud out of him. Right or wrong, he should not have resorted to violence.
I condemned the first incident and you are doing 'Haha' on the 2nd one.
Class is evident
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