DGISPR issues open challenge to Indian army to share locations of targeted 'terror camps' [Post#198]

[IMMY69]

True, India wasted all that money because Pakistan's governments and power centers have helped in the current economic crisis, radicalism problem etc etc. That money could have been spent on more useful stuff back home. don't you think?

Obviously I am assuming Pakistan has an economic crisis and problem with radicalism based on what I hear in the news, hopefully it is not India's billions spent in propaganda at work here.

Read all your posts again...
I hope reality hits and you wake up from your briainwashed, extreme nationalist view stemming from an overwhelming sense of insecurity.

 

[Local.Dada]

Read all your posts again...
I hope reality hits and you wake up from your briainwashed, extreme nationalist view stemming from an overwhelming sense of insecurity.

Bhai read my posts again and tell me which part of it comes across as denial?

I agreed some Indian politicians have made inflammatory speeches previously , I agreed that there were some communal incidents where law and order were broken, I said truth is usually in between and every country has a narrative however credibility and track record over a period of time matters.

Please tell me where have I been in denial or said something hurtful?

 

[ahsan17]

Bhai read my posts again and tell me which part of it comes across as denial?

I agreed some Indian politicians have made inflammatory speeches previously , I agreed that there were some communal incidents where law and order were broken, I said truth is usually in between and every country has a narrative however credibility and track record over a period of time matters.

Please tell me where have I been in denial or said something hurtful?

But Indian credibility and track record over the last few years is abysmal. Their claims have been disproven again and again. This is the third "surgical strike" that is getting disproven. Not to mention the whole shooting down F-16 fiasco.

 

[kk1992]

ya'll still giving few RSS supporters importance by trying to proof them wrong with true, verified and documented facts?

It is a waste of time.

They aren't here to discuss facts they are here to confuse the facts.

 

[Technics 1210]

ya'll still giving few RSS supporters importance by trying to proof them wrong with true, verified and documented facts?

It is a waste of time.

They aren't here to discuss facts they are here to confuse the facts.

RSS internet soldiers at work to keep the moral high of other RSS internet soldiers.

This is bigger than RSS, this is Hindutva. RSS, BJP, Shiv Sena, to name but a few right-wing fascist organisations that kill and mane in the name of Hindutva. RSS are just cannon fodder flies in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Itachi]

But Indian credibility and track record over the last few years is abysmal. Their claims have been disproven again and again. This is the third "surgical strike" that is getting disproven. Not to mention the whole shooting down F-16 fiasco.

I don't know why you are bashing that poor guy who's actually humble enough to admit many issues in India.

While he was talking about himself, you brought up credibility of India. Hypothetically speaking, even if India has zero credibility, what this poor guy can do who already stated he also believes truth is in between?

Aren't you going way ahead against someone who was accused of denial yet, his words state otherwise?

 

[ahsan17]

I don't know why you are bashing that poor guy who's actually humble enough to admit many issues in India.

While he was talking about himself, you brought up credibility of India. Hypothetically speaking, even if India has zero credibility, what this poor guy can do who already stated he also believes truth is in between?

Aren't you going way ahead against someone who was accused of denial yet, his words state otherwise?

There are three relevant points I will mention.

1) When there is evidence in favour of one claim over the opposite claim, the one with the evidence has to be considered more strongly. Taking a "middle ground approach" in that case makes no sense. On the case of 2008 Mumbai attacks, if I said the truth is somewhere in between LeT being responsible and the attack being false flag, what would you tell me? You would likely point out evidence, which would be completely reasonable and what should happen. You wouldn't accept middle ground.

Middle ground can work on things like political opinions, moral issues, etc, but verifiable facts and events are a different story.

2) If you read his earlier posts, he says Pakistan lacks credibility because of past events, and thats why the truth must be in the middle. I was pointing out that this argument works both ways, since Indian credibility in the last few years has gone quite downhill as well.

3) This is a general point, unrelated to India or Pakistan or this event. If someone lacks credibility, but they are able to provide evidence for their claims, the evidence "buys" credibility for those claims. This is assuming the evidence is reasonable and doesn't have a hundred holes that can be poked through it. Conversely, if someone is considered credible, but doesn't provide evidence for their claims, their claims should be questioned, but not necessarily outright denied.

 

[rockyboy2018]

Uncle Tom can step in and gives their final verdict on the evidence at hand.

 

[the Great Khan]

And by abroad you mean Birmingham, Bradford and Luton.

hunh? what kind of racist statement is this? the media we're talking about includes:
NYT (anti pakistan)
Guardian(anti pakistan)
the telegraph (anti muslim and anti pakistan)
the Times(anti muslim and anti pakistan)
the spectator (anti muslim and anti pakistan)
and these are just the broadsheets
then we have the

the BBC (anti pakistan)
aljazeera (sometimes ok )
CNN (anti pakistan)
various european media outlets like France 2 RTE etc..

nearly everyone of these outlets presented Pakistans case for teh first time in nearly 50 odd years.

That in itself is a massive acheivement. We have people who have never heard of kashmir researching it on social media and condemning the Indian govt. It is not a small deal. But you keep putting your head in the sand. The same thing you used to accuse us of doing with regards to militancy..you are now doing yourself..at least we didnt elect maulan rizvi or fazlu as prime ministers. You lot went one better..shabaash

 

[Thomaskutty]

nearly everyone of these outlets presented Pakistans case for teh first time in nearly 50 odd years.

What exactly was Pakistan's case that every news outlet you mention above blindly ignored for 50 years until now? Please elaborate.