'Did you kill Adil Pathan?' Last video of J&K police constable being grilled by terrorists emerges

[Mamoon]

The only thing i want to ask Pakistanis is why do you want to fight Kashmiri's war with India?

Do you really think you can take Kashmir by force?

Will this support to terror groups force India to cede kashmir?

The way Indian economy is growing we can fight this war for a far longer period than Pakistan can.

Pakistan couldn’t care less about the people of Kashmir. It is simply a tool to maintain animosity with India, because that is key to the military maintaining its authority in Pakistan.

If India cedes control of J&K tomorrow, we will find another excuse to fight India.

 

[InziRules]

Pakistan couldn’t care less about the people of Kashmir. It is simply a tool to maintain animosity with India, because that is key to the military maintaining its authority in Pakistan.

If India cedes control of J&K tomorrow, we will find another excuse to fight India.

Then why doesn't India?

Maybe you don't care about people, but I care about women being raped, children being killed, and girls being molested by the Indian army. They starve people, and withhold water as well, which seems to be okay in your book.

 

[Mamoon]

Then why doesn't India?

Maybe you don't care about people, but I care about women being raped, children being killed, and girls being molested by the Indian army. They starve people, and withhold water as well, which seems to be okay in your book.

Why should India cede control of its state because Pakistan says so? Yes they are not giving Kashmiris what they want, but every state looks after their own interests. Letting go of J&K will be a big blow to the Indian economy.

Similarly, Pakistan does not entertain the prospect of giving independence to Balochistan or allowing Pashtuns to form their own state even though a lot of people want that to happen.

As far as the crimes that the Indian army commits in Kashmir, it is obviously not okay, but I am more concerned about the way minorities are treated in Pakistan, because I am not a hypocrite.

We need to worry more about the treatment of Ahmadis, Shias, and other minorities in Pakistan instead of focusing on what happens in Kashmir or Palestine.

The life of a non-Muslim Pakistani should be more valuable for us than the life of an Indian Kashmiri.

If Pakistan are ever in a position where they could benefit from oppressing Kashmiris, they wouldn’t think twice, as history shows. What we did in East Pakistan, and the atrocities that we committed were worse than what India is doing in Kashmir.

 

[InziRules]

The life of a non-Muslim Pakistani should be more valuable for us than the life of an Indian Kashmiri.

Nationalistic nonsense, we are all citizens of the world. Regardless, Hindus are not being mass raped with their children molested by pedophiles and peppered with bullets, and not getting water in Pakistan. It happens in Kashmir though

 

[Loralai]

We need to worry more about the treatment of Ahmadis, Shias, and other minorities in Pakistan instead of focusing on what happens in Kashmir or Palestine.

Well said brother - my thoughts entirely. Unfortunately as long as we keep believing we are custodians of Islam what can we expect from our own people?

The interesting thing is that most Palestinian activists do not care about Pakistan at all but we are ready to give everthing for them.

 

[Mamoon]

Nationalistic nonsense, we are all citizens of the world. Regardless, Hindus are not being mass raped with their children molested by pedophiles and peppered with bullets, and not getting water in Pakistan. It happens in Kashmir though

Why Hindus only? Two months ago in Ramzaan, a Sikh leader was gunned down in Peshawar because he believed in interfaith harmony, and would regularly arrange iftars for Muslims.

Or is killing minorities better than raping and not giving water?

The lives of religious minorities, be it Sikhs, Ahmadis, Shias or others, should be more valuable to the people of Pakistan than the lives of the Kashmiris.

If we give them their due rights, perhaps we will be in a position to show India how it is done, but now, all they have to do is to pinpoint the way Pakistan treats its minorities and the crimes that we committed in East Pakistan.

 

[Mamoon]

Well said brother - my thoughts entirely. Unfortunately as long as we keep believing we are custodians of Islam what can we expect from our own people?

The interesting thing is that most Palestinian activists do not care about Pakistan at all but we are ready to give everthing for them.

That is because we are the only nation that believes in the Muslim Ummah alliance. The Arabs were quick to learn after the UAR (alliance between Egypt and Syria) and the Six-Day War that fighting other nations’ war is a recipe for disaster, and that is why the other Muslim countries have steered clear from Palestine and Kashmir.

 

[Loralai]

That is because we are the only nation that believes in the Muslim Ummah alliance. The Arabs were quick to learn after the UAR (alliance between Egypt and Syria) and the Six-Day War that fighting other nations’ war is a recipe for disaster, and that is why the other Muslim countries have steered clear from Palestine and Kashmir.

We will never learn until we look at peaceful and tolerant nations and realise the benefits of separation of religion and state and of a fully fledged democracy.

Sadly we are happy with our pathetic naarabaazi and talk of how we can destroy Israel in under twelve minutes (https://www.republicworld.com/world...el-in-12-minutes-general-zubair-mahmood-hayat).

Until we realise we are Pakistanis and learn to put Pakistan first we are on a one way ticket to nowhere.

 

[ManFan]

That is because we are the only nation that believes in the Muslim Ummah alliance. The Arabs were quick to learn after the UAR (alliance between Egypt and Syria) and the Six-Day War that fighting other nations’ war is a recipe for disaster, and that is why the other Muslim countries have steered clear from Palestine and Kashmir.

Except that they took it to another level.

Treat people of darker skin as second-class citizens and refuse to accept refugees who than have no other option but to go to Europe.

 

[InziRules]

Why Hindus only? Two months ago in Ramzaan, a Sikh leader was gunned down in Peshawar because he believed in interfaith harmony, and would regularly arrange iftars for Muslims.

Or is killing minorities better than raping and not giving water?

The lives of religious minorities, be it Sikhs, Ahmadis, Shias or others, should be more valuable to the people of Pakistan than the lives of the Kashmiris.

If we give them their due rights, perhaps we will be in a position to show India how it is done, but now, all they have to do is to pinpoint the way Pakistan treats its minorities and the crimes that we committed in East Pakistan.

Random Murder is different from a system of violence. Ahmedis are the happiest people in Pakistan, controlling all the money and industries. The Hindus control the media. They have all the power.

 

[ManFan]

We will never learn until we look at peaceful and tolerant nations and realise the benefits of separation of religion and state and of a fully fledged democracy.

Sadly we are happy with our pathetic naarabaazi and talk of how we can destroy Israel in under twelve minutes (https://www.republicworld.com/world...el-in-12-minutes-general-zubair-mahmood-hayat).

Until we realise we are Pakistanis and learn to put Pakistan first we are on a one way ticket to nowhere.

How can there be separation of church and state in a nation that was built on the concept of belief?

The guy in my avatar, Cardinal Richelieu, was the first to establish the concept of “secularism” calling it raison d’ etat, as an excuse to continue to destabilize and stall a unified Germany.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Nationalistic nonsense, we are all citizens of the world. Regardless, Hindus are not being mass raped with their children molested by pedophiles and peppered with bullets, and not getting water in Pakistan. It happens in Kashmir though

Do you have a world passport?

How does an issue between Indians and Kashmiris become a issue for Pakistanis?

 

[Loralai]

How can there be separation of church and state in a nation that was built on the concept of belief?

It has been 71 years and we have seen where this mistaken belief has taken us. It is time to accept that the current situation is not acceptable to the citizens of Pakistan and therefore we must revise our approach to our national identity.

We must accept religion is a private matter and one in which the state cannot interfere. We must then realise that all Pakistanis are equal regardless of religion.

 

[ManFan]

It has been 71 years and we have seen where this mistaken belief has taken us. It is time to accept that the current situation is not acceptable to the citizens of Pakistan and therefore we must revise our approach to our national identity.

We must accept religion is a private matter and one in which the state cannot interfere. We must then realise that all Pakistanis are equal regardless of religion.

It hasn’t worked because it hasn’t been implemented to the the strict Islamic law that it proposed.

For example, in jurisprudence, the law may be in accordance with Sharia but in practice, it follows European practice/model.

 

[ManFan]

Do you have a world passport?

How does an issue between Indians and Kashmiris become a issue for Pakistanis?

The world passport part made me laugh.

 

[Mamoon]

Random Murder is different from a system of violence. Ahmedis are the happiest people in Pakistan, controlling all the money and industries. The Hindus control the media. They have all the power.

The attacks on the minorities are not random. It is part of our state policy, and the perpetrators are provided protection by the state.

Yes, Ahmadis are the happiest people in Pakistan and Hindus control the media in the same world where pigs fly and the sun rises in the west.

 

[InziRules]

Do you have a world passport?

How does an issue between Indians and Kashmiris become a issue for Pakistanis?

Why is a Pakistani forum a issue for you? Leave then, if your view is so myopic that you think only Indians can talk about an area that is disputed by India and Pakistan.

Anyway, no surprise, since India's state religion says that only Indians are chosen people and rest are inferior, while Islam thinks everyone is equal

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why is a Pakistani forum a issue for you? Leave then, if your view is so myopic that you think only Indians can talk about an area that is disputed by India and Pakistan.

Anyway, no surprise, since India's state religion says that only Indians are chosen people and rest are inferior, while Islam thinks everyone is equal

What is Pakistan's dispute here? Its between India and Kashmiris. Pakistan seems to be a third party intervention.Let Indians and Kashmiris settle the matter among them.

FYI India has no state religion.

Islam thinks everyone is equal? So non muslims or idol worshippers are equal to muslims?

 

[Hitman]

Pakistan has been waiting for this collapse of India since 1947. In the meanwhile Pakistan collapsed.

There are various Indian posters here of various religion region and ethnicity.

They have divergent views on religion politics culture etc.

But almost everyone agrees on one thing that they are Indian.And proud to be so.

[MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION]
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION]
[MENTION=135839]Smbhayi[/MENTION]
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION]
[MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION]
[MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION]
[MENTION=146727]Rahul1[/MENTION]
[MENTION=136571]akki[/MENTION]
[MENTION=146346]Mr.Q[/MENTION]
[MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION]

I'd die for my country. That's all I will say. And so will almost all my friends. And that's the reason why the thinking of some of the Pakistani posters about us Indians make me laugh

 

[Hitman]

As regards to the Seven Sister States wanting to liberate from India, sure there might be a handful of nutcases here and there wanting so. But try saying that to a common person belonging to any of those states, you'll be lucky not to be beaten up.

 

[Dagestani_Eagle]

That couldn't be further from the truth and shows the ignorance Indians have about Jammu and Kashmir.

There is a lot of violence and separatist activities in the Muslim districts of Jammu, some prominent leaders of the independence movement are actually from Jammu. It's also funny how Indians try to separate the Muslim districts of Jammu from Kashmir when in fact the whole movement started with the Poonch rebellion.

You can ask our resident Jammu member [MENTION=139867]dauntless[/MENTION] of how they feel about India.

An official said that two militants identified as Bilal Ahmed from Khudwani area of Kulgfam district and Abid Hussain Bhat, son of Wali Bhat, a resident of Suzan Doda district of Jammu and Kashmir were killed during an encounter in Mehman Mohalla in Islamabad town. The searches in the area are still on.

https://kashmirlife.net/islamabad-gunfight-two-militants-killed-searches-on-181515/
I hope the violence ends and an amicable solution is found.

 

[Tusker]

Pakistan has been waiting for this collapse of India since 1947. In the meanwhile Pakistan collapsed.

There are various Indian posters here of various religion region and ethnicity.

They have divergent views on religion politics culture etc.

But almost everyone agrees on one thing that they are Indian.And proud to be so.

[MENTION=133315]Hitman[/MENTION]
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION]
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION]
[MENTION=135839]Smbhayi[/MENTION]
[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION]
[MENTION=132715]Varun[/MENTION]
[MENTION=90888]Itachi[/MENTION]
[MENTION=146727]Rahul1[/MENTION]
[MENTION=136571]akki[/MENTION]
[MENTION=146346]Mr.Q[/MENTION]
[MENTION=130700]TM Riddle[/MENTION]

here is a simple point - Despite 60+ Years of Congress we are still in one piece. So for India to break it has to be hit with a far bigger disaster than the Plague otherwise known as Congress.