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Disrespectful boos heard in Ahmedabad for Babar Azam during the toss for India vs Pakistan ICC World Cup group stage match, 2023

160KPH said:
1) I don’t live in Pakistan.
2) Pakistan isn’t India’s competition, China is.
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What exactly does the topic of discussion have to do with something as irreverent as India's economy?
 
FastBowlingAllrounder said:
These guys really need to toughen up. I wonder what Babar would've done if he replaced Miandad in the Miandad v Lillee spat. Would've started licking Dennis' feet clean I'd imagine.
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I didn't see Babar or Rizwan cry or complain in the face of abuse. They both basically ignored it, and scored the majority of the runs for Pakistan unless I'm mistaken.
 
Saanji said:
1. Environment was hostile yes. But the crybaby attitude is too much considering the various pre game claims of doing "sajda" and all that in front of 132,000 supposedly all "hindus" in this forum and also pak players. You can dream and give interviews about dissing an entire population but just can't take it. It's a typical entitled brat attitude. Do I need to post pre game posts about fantasies of pakistani posters and cricket players??
2. Nothing that happened affected the fairness of the game that was played, infact a couple of umpiring decisions were in pakistan's favor.
3. I have entered only to comment about t how snowflakey the pak fans have become.
It was a fair game, but hostile environment.. move on. You guys were ready to lord over india had the result been opposite. So get down from your high horse and focus on other stuff that matters.
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Rizwan has done sajda almost where ever he has played England Australia you name it, infront of Jews Christian atheists etc..
Is india any different to other countries? If india is different to other countries then the onus is on you, maybe you should not fit to host icc tournaments if your something like this offensive to and not other hosts. The cry babies are you here that you had to shout shri rami ji at someone's face just because he did sajda. Last year Australia fans didnt should jesus jesus up rizwans face for doing sajda last year at the t20 worldcup. It's your people who can't behave like the crowds of the other countries who host icc tournaments so its you the cry babies.

Your point 2 and 3 is just rubbish trying to go off point because no one has mentioned those they are coming from you and your fellow Indians
 
emranabbas said:
Rizwan has done sajda almost where ever he has played England Australia you name it, infront of Jews Christian atheists etc..
Is india any different to other countries? If india is different to other countries then the onus is on you, maybe you should not fit to host icc tournaments if your something like this offensive to and not other hosts. The cry babies are you here that you had to shout shri rami ji at someone's face just because he did sajda. Last year Australia fans didnt should jesus jesus up rizwans face for doing sajda last year at the t20 worldcup. It's your people who can't behave like the crowds of the other countries who host icc tournaments so its you the cry babies.

Your point 2 and 3 is just rubbish trying to go off point because no one has mentioned those they are coming from you and your fellow Indians
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Bro, environment was hostile for Pakistan cricketers.. yes.. no one is denying that. But calling it racist bigoted and all is utterly hyperbolic and you have a losing argument and hence my points.

I am not Hindu by the way. And I find all public display of religious stuff as moronic. And you are not special taking special offense to my opinion. All my fellow religious friends do that no matter what God they believe in.
Plz refer to the pre game fantasies of some of the posters before cherry picking few lines from my post .
 
globetrotter said:
If Mr.Zaka Ashraf was present in the match, he should have protested immediately to BCCI officials…why didn’t he complain at that time?

Mr Zaka Ashraf who himself is a biased person and few days back termed Bharat as “Dushman Mulk”, but Bharat not made any complaint to ICC bcos Bharat is not cry baby like Pakistan
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The PCB has lodged a complain with the ICC now.
They have been suitably emboldened by some Indians who love to act all politically correct..
No Pak team player, including Rizwan, has said anything. They are all going about their work like pros.
Yes, the only person who said something is an incompetent coach and may well lose his job if the Pak team doesn't reach the semis in this tournament.
 
Saanji said:
Bro, environment was hostile for Pakistan cricketers.. yes.. no one is denying that. But calling it racist bigoted and all is utterly hyperbolic and you have a losing argument and hence my points.

I am not Hindu by the way. And I find all public display of religious stuff as moronic. And you are not special taking special offense to my opinion. All my fellow religious friends do that no matter what God they believe in.
Plz refer to the pre game fantasies of some of the posters before cherry picking few lines from my post .
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Refere to your post no. 601 I replied to you and set you straight after that you have no reply and just coming out with off topic you lost your argument when you had no response to my first reply.
 
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emranabbas said:
Refere to your post no. 601 I replied to you and set you straight after that you have no reply and just coming out with off topic you lost your argument when you had no response to my first reply.

Allah hu akbar
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That was sarcasm my friend if you don't get it. And pretty much straight to point .
 
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India is changing. These days players who love to abuse on the field don't get the same hate as those who quietly pray. Not to mention an ex cricketer who loves to show his middle finger when the going gets tough. Strange. :inti
 
As an Indian I feel ashamed watching those videos. Totally unnecessary specially when current Pakistani players are so nice and mild mannered. There is no hostility on the field. No Pakistani player is sledging Indians or anything. Just because you are in large numbers and there is no one to oppose you doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. As for Rizwan offering Namaz on the field, although I am not a big fan of such things, but you can't start shouting Jai Shree Ram in his face. Totally distasteful. As true fans, the spectators should learn to behave better and should respect/appreciate players for their performance and nothing else.
 
Ml12345 said:
As an Indian I feel ashamed watching those videos. Totally unnecessary specially when current Pakistani players are so nice and mild mannered. There is no hostility on the field. No Pakistani player is sledging Indians or anything. Just because you are in large numbers and there is no one to oppose you doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. As for Rizwan offering Namaz on the field, although I am not a big fan of such things, but you can't start shouting Jai Shree Ram in his face. Totally distasteful. As true fans, the spectators should learn to behave better and should respect/appreciate players for their performance and nothing else.
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Overreaction on your part. Let me explain why...

It is correct that Pakistani players are all nice and mild mannered but it is not that any of Indian players have misbehaved. It is done by certain section of Indian fans in a stadium filled with 130k people. Learn to differentiate between players and fans. Are you saying all Pakistani fans are nice and mild mannered?

In the match thread itself a poster (certain DJ) said 'I wish Rizwan gets his century and do Sajda in Modi Stadium' which is followed by multiple likes. I mean Rizwan can pray as much as he wants but why the need to stress on doing it in Modi stadium? Basically, he wanted Rizwan to offer Namaz in front of thousand of Hindus to rub it off (same thing that Waqar said previously). Now tell me what is the difference between said poster (or Waqar previously) to these people that were chanting Jai Shri Ram?

So humble request, pls don't fall for these propaganda and feel ashamed. The way Indian crowd behaved would exactly the way they would behave too if the game was in Karachi or Lahore. India would never play there though but that is a different story.
 
'I Could've Been Seriously Injured': Irfan Pathan Shares Incident Of SCARY Attack During Pakistan Tour

Former India cricketer Irfan Pathan has slammed PCB for making an issue of the crowd's behaviour towards the Pakistan cricketers in Ahmedabad. Pakistan captain Babar Azam was booed by the crowd during the India vs Pakistan match at the Narendra Modi Stadium. There were a few derogatory comments made about the country and players after which the PCB lodged a formal complaint to the ICC. Irfan, however, feels that PCB is making unnecessary issues out of it.

Irfan recalled an incident during team India's visit to Pakistan where the match had to be stopped for 10 minutes. Irfan revealed that one of the fans in Peshawar had threw an iron nail at him which missed his eyes by a whisker after which the match had to be stopped. Irfan toured Pakistan twice with the Indian team in 2004 and 2006.


“Peshawar me ham khelne gaye the, tab ek Pakistani fan ne meri aankh k niche keel mardi thi. Lekin hamne iss baat ka batangad ni banaya. (We were playing a game in Peshawar, when a fan threw a nail at me, which struck me under my eye. I could have gotten seriously injured. The match was halted for 10 minutes, but we did not pay any heed to it as we were playing good cricket). Pakistan should stop making issues of crowd’s behaviour in India. They shouldn’t stretch things over here,” Irfan said on commentary.

Meanwhile, ICC is set to take no action on PCB's complaint. The apex body's anti-discrimination code of conduct is applicable to individuals and it is not possible to apply it to the entire crowd. A senior ICC official confirmed the same to PTI.

"The ICC takes every complaint very seriously but code is about individuals. I don't know what exactly is PCB looking at but it will be very difficult to take any tangible action," a veteran official, who has worked in both BCCI and ICC told PTI on conditions of anonymity.

"The ICC may identify individuals if there are charges of racism but if thousands of people are shouting a slogan, what can you do? No player was injured by any 'missile' hurled from the gallery? A partisan crowd is expected. That's pressure of elite sport," he added.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/cr...1&cvid=581007e439b54eb48d8714b613563cf2&ei=14
 
Cover Drive Six said:
'I Could've Been Seriously Injured': Irfan Pathan Shares Incident Of SCARY Attack During Pakistan Tour

Former India cricketer Irfan Pathan has slammed PCB for making an issue of the crowd's behaviour towards the Pakistan cricketers in Ahmedabad. Pakistan captain Babar Azam was booed by the crowd during the India vs Pakistan match at the Narendra Modi Stadium. There were a few derogatory comments made about the country and players after which the PCB lodged a formal complaint to the ICC. Irfan, however, feels that PCB is making unnecessary issues out of it.

Irfan recalled an incident during team India's visit to Pakistan where the match had to be stopped for 10 minutes. Irfan revealed that one of the fans in Peshawar had threw an iron nail at him which missed his eyes by a whisker after which the match had to be stopped. Irfan toured Pakistan twice with the Indian team in 2004 and 2006.


“Peshawar me ham khelne gaye the, tab ek Pakistani fan ne meri aankh k niche keel mardi thi. Lekin hamne iss baat ka batangad ni banaya. (We were playing a game in Peshawar, when a fan threw a nail at me, which struck me under my eye. I could have gotten seriously injured. The match was halted for 10 minutes, but we did not pay any heed to it as we were playing good cricket). Pakistan should stop making issues of crowd’s behaviour in India. They shouldn’t stretch things over here,” Irfan said on commentary.

Meanwhile, ICC is set to take no action on PCB's complaint. The apex body's anti-discrimination code of conduct is applicable to individuals and it is not possible to apply it to the entire crowd. A senior ICC official confirmed the same to PTI.

"The ICC takes every complaint very seriously but code is about individuals. I don't know what exactly is PCB looking at but it will be very difficult to take any tangible action," a veteran official, who has worked in both BCCI and ICC told PTI on conditions of anonymity.

"The ICC may identify individuals if there are charges of racism but if thousands of people are shouting a slogan, what can you do? No player was injured by any 'missile' hurled from the gallery? A partisan crowd is expected. That's pressure of elite sport," he added.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/cr...1&cvid=581007e439b54eb48d8714b613563cf2&ei=14
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Quite funny that. Irfan Pathan admitting that it was a solitary supporter who threw a nail in Peshawar, and the ICC admitting that they can't do anything when thousands of India fans are shouting abuse.

But I don't expect the majority of Bharati fans to get this, it doesn't suit their agenda and as usual they are in ultra saffron defence mode.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Quite funny that. Irfan Pathan admitting that it was a solitary supporter who threw a nail in Peshawar, and the ICC admitting that they can't do anything when thousands of India fans are shouting abuse.

But I don't expect the majority of Bharati fans to get this, it doesn't suit their agenda and as usual they are in ultra saffron defence mode.
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This is what my friend (who attended the match) messaged.

The support was embarrassing. The dj was insanely focusing only on india. The song list by performers was mostly from movies where india and pak fight

Very few people applauded babar’s 50.

It feels like we’ve learnt one template of supporting home team in ipl and then continued that template into a World Cup which is stupid.
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Embarrassed to have such friends.
 
The ICC official giving statement seems to be a lowkey Indian official.....

If there is discrimination, the ICC can ban a stadium from hosting any games like we see in football. Its not about individuals, in football, often stadiums have been banned from hosting games due to the crowds racism.

Also, pathetic from Irfan Pathan and i feel sorry for muslims of India. This guy is a muslim representative of the indian team, his father was working in the mosque. He should be the first one condemning the jai shri ram threats, but instead this is what he barks?

Fine, you want to insult Pakistan team, but atleast think about your own muslim people in India. There are videos on youtube where muslims were forced to chant jai shri ram and were threaten to do it
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Quite funny that. Irfan Pathan admitting that it was a solitary supporter who threw a nail in Peshawar, and the ICC admitting that they can't do anything when thousands of India fans are shouting abuse.

But I don't expect the majority of Bharati fans to get this, it doesn't suit their agenda and as usual they are in ultra saffron defence mode.
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What would have got your attention? If Irfan was nailed to the ground under a shower of nails?

lolwut
 
Cover Drive Six said:
'I Could've Been Seriously Injured': Irfan Pathan Shares Incident Of SCARY Attack During Pakistan Tour

Former India cricketer Irfan Pathan has slammed PCB for making an issue of the crowd's behaviour towards the Pakistan cricketers in Ahmedabad. Pakistan captain Babar Azam was booed by the crowd during the India vs Pakistan match at the Narendra Modi Stadium. There were a few derogatory comments made about the country and players after which the PCB lodged a formal complaint to the ICC. Irfan, however, feels that PCB is making unnecessary issues out of it.

Irfan recalled an incident during team India's visit to Pakistan where the match had to be stopped for 10 minutes. Irfan revealed that one of the fans in Peshawar had threw an iron nail at him which missed his eyes by a whisker after which the match had to be stopped. Irfan toured Pakistan twice with the Indian team in 2004 and 2006.


“Peshawar me ham khelne gaye the, tab ek Pakistani fan ne meri aankh k niche keel mardi thi. Lekin hamne iss baat ka batangad ni banaya. (We were playing a game in Peshawar, when a fan threw a nail at me, which struck me under my eye. I could have gotten seriously injured. The match was halted for 10 minutes, but we did not pay any heed to it as we were playing good cricket). Pakistan should stop making issues of crowd’s behaviour in India. They shouldn’t stretch things over here,” Irfan said on commentary.

Meanwhile, ICC is set to take no action on PCB's complaint. The apex body's anti-discrimination code of conduct is applicable to individuals and it is not possible to apply it to the entire crowd. A senior ICC official confirmed the same to PTI.

"The ICC takes every complaint very seriously but code is about individuals. I don't know what exactly is PCB looking at but it will be very difficult to take any tangible action," a veteran official, who has worked in both BCCI and ICC told PTI on conditions of anonymity.

"The ICC may identify individuals if there are charges of racism but if thousands of people are shouting a slogan, what can you do? No player was injured by any 'missile' hurled from the gallery? A partisan crowd is expected. That's pressure of elite sport," he added.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/cr...1&cvid=581007e439b54eb48d8714b613563cf2&ei=14
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Good of him to bring this to our attention. Wonder what triggered that now? Must be the desire to be one with the nation.
 
Major said:
Also, pathetic from Irfan Pathan and i feel sorry for muslims of India. This guy is a muslim representative of the indian team, his father was working in the mosque. He should be the first one condemning the jai shri ram threats, but instead this is what he barks?

Fine, you want to insult Pakistan team, but atleast think about your own muslim people in India. There are videos on youtube where muslims were forced to chant jai shri ram and were threaten to do it
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This why you shouldn't be embarrassed and no one should resent Pathan too much. He may be forced to make such statements to prove his loyalty to Bharat. I would take his statements with a pinch of salt. But any fan in Peshawar who threw a nail, even a single fan should have been identified and marched out of the stadium by the stewards. Assuming Pakistan can afford stewards.
 
MenInG said:
Good of him to bring this to our attention. Wonder what triggered that now? Must be the desire to be one with the nation.
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Or pointing out what a bunch of hypocritical whiners PCB and Pak fans have become?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
This why you shouldn't be embarrassed and no one should resent Pathan too much. He may be forced to make such statements to prove his loyalty to Bharat. I would take his statements with a pinch of salt. But any fan in Peshawar who threw a nail, even a single fan should have been identified and marched out of the stadium by the stewards. Assuming Pakistan can afford stewards.
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pcb has stewards, but in such situation the police takes away people. Forget nail, in psl the crowd did naraybazi for pti and imran khan and they took him away.

Thing is, we condemn when we are wrong, Indians dont and stoop very low to defend it.
 
Major said:
being threaten is whining?
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threatened by some one chanting? please. that is very definition of soft.

PCB and Pakistan needs to have some pride and avoid BCCI at all costs. They know the situation is not going to change.

Manohar is not coming back.
 
rpant_gabba said:
threatened by some one chanting? please. that is very definition of soft.

PCB and Pakistan needs to have some pride and avoid BCCI at all costs. They know the situation is not going to change.

Manohar is not coming back.
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pride? Is this some LGBT-xyz parade going on?


Even Gautam Gambhir said the fans were wrong. PCB righty made a complain.

If the crowd was to call Indian players with racism and threats, would you say they should just accept those chants?
 
Major said:
pride? Is this some LGBT-xyz parade going on?


Even Gautam Gambhir said the fans were wrong. PCB righty made a complain.

If the crowd was to call Indian players with racism and threats, would you say they should just accept those chants?
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Fans were wrong to threatened? thats a big jump there.

The chant is nto worse than Pak fans have dished out.

Learn to take what you dish out.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Quite funny that. Irfan Pathan admitting that it was a solitary supporter who threw a nail in Peshawar, and the ICC admitting that they can't do anything when thousands of India fans are shouting abuse.

But I don't expect the majority of Bharati fans to get this, it doesn't suit their agenda and as usual they are in ultra saffron defence mode.
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Thousands? Mate you are hallucinating, maybe a dozen or so, maybe a vociferous section of the crown in a few multiple dozens. The rest don’t care.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Fans were wrong to threatened? thats a big jump there.

The chant is nto worse than Pak fans have dished out.

Learn to take what you dish out.
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Having a discussion with an Indian is like talking to a wall.

I think i have said this a 100 times, if Pakistani fans did anything wrong, we condemn it.

Now, as i asked, if indian team faced racist or disciminating chants or something along the lines of curry munchers, would you still say that they should just accept the chants and move on without making an official complaint?
 
rpant_gabba said:
Fans were wrong to threatened? thats a big jump there.

The chant is nto worse than Pak fans have dished out.

Learn to take what you dish out.
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Hello?

Can you please write down

"I condemn the behaviour of some Indian fans in Ahmedabad who directed religious slogans at Mohammad Rizwan because he is a Muslim"

Once you have stated this in your post, we can then talk about crowd behaviour in South East Asia.
 
MenInG said:
Hello?

Can you please write down

"I condemn the behaviour of some Indian fans in Ahmedabad who directed religious slogans at Mohammad Rizwan because he is a Muslim"

Once you have stated this in your post, we can then talk about crowd behaviour in South East Asia.
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How would that make any difference to the rizwan or those fans.
 
Irfan point is that player gets hate , critisism and boos but they just ignore those thing but some fan's and board just crying about those little thing to satisfied themselves just becouse they beaten badly by arch-rivals two times in a months .
 
MenInG said:
Usual Indian tactics.

When confronted with uncomfortable truths, run and find something to deflect.

Not working here - people can see right through this.

Like I said before, Pathan doing his best to fit in.
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Pathan is showing the mirror and how teams have taken much more hostile behaviour in their stride and not made an issue out of it.

Pathan help India win a world title and is a hero for that don't think he needs to fit in.

Its amusing how everytime Muslims in India stand with their country Pakistanis believe they are doing it forcefully. Not everyone puts religion over country.
 
MenInG said:
Hello?

Can you please write down

"I condemn the behaviour of some Indian fans in Ahmedabad who directed religious slogans at Mohammad Rizwan because he is a Muslim"

Once you have stated this in your post, we can then talk about crowd behaviour in South East Asia.
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Here for Indian fans who may have missed it

Please add your likes to this post so we know where you stand.

Conveniently forgetting the topic of this thread.

It's fine guys - you will still be Indian fans if you write the above.
 
MenInG said:
Here for Indian fans who may have missed it

Please add your likes to this post so we know where you stand.

Conveniently forgetting the topic of this thread.

It's fine guys - you will still be Indian fans if you write the above.
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Good luck with that. Hahaha. Not gonna happen. You may 4-5 likes if you are lucky.
 
MenInG said:
Usual Indian tactics.

When confronted with uncomfortable truths, run and find something to deflect.

Not working here - people can see right through this.

Like I said before, Pathan doing his best to fit in.
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Think you're reading this a little differently.

The fact that Irfan, who is known to troll Pak fans in the past, chose to bring this up only now gives his broader point much more credence - about accepting the lack of control players have over opposition fans. There are press reports about this, so he doesn't seem to be lying about it. Whether fan behavior should be accepted or not is a different matter. But does it happen and how do players go about responding to it is what I think he was trying to make a point about.

Irfan, of all Indian Muslims, has always been a darling of Indian fans. He really doesn't need to be a tryhard.
 
pillionrider said:
Think you're reading this a little differently.

The fact that Irfan, who is known to troll Pak fans in the past, chose to bring this up only now gives his broader point much more credence - about accepting the lack of control players have over opposition fans. There are press reports about this, so he doesn't seem to be lying about it. Whether fan behavior should be accepted or not is a different matter. But does it happen and how do players go about responding to it is what I think he was trying to make a point about.

Irfan, of all Indian Muslims, has always been a darling of Indian fans. He really doesn't need to be a tryhard.
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Nope that is Irfan

He is not the subject of this thread

The ask is simple.
 
MenInG said:
Oh they are trying - trying very hard becharay but Cummins didn't pay much attention to it.

https://imgur.com/iy7xjvP
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Its pathetic from the Indian journalists to make an issue out of it time and again. what the players tweet in their personal life is no one's business. They need to focus on the game than things outside of the world cup. The organisers need to make it clear that only questions related to cricket need to be asked.
 
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Nikhil_cric said:
Are we sure that it is an Indian journalist ? Because there are PAK journalists there too now?
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Why would a Pak journalist make a controversy out of Rizwan supporting Palestine? It definitely was an Indian journo. They are just fishing for controversy thats all. Nothing wrong in tweeting their support to Palestine.
 
ex-q-zit said:
Why would a Pak journalist make a controversy out of Rizwan supporting Palestine? It definitely was an Indian journo. They are just fishing for controversy thats all. Nothing wrong in tweeting their support to Palestine.
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I never said theres anything wrong in tweeting in support of Palestine. And it's absolutely wrong to ask that. Pakistani journalists have got visas now. I'm just wondering if we know for certain it's an Indian journalist
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I never said theres anything wrong in tweeting in support of Palestine. And it's absolutely wrong to ask that. Pakistani journalists have got visas now. I'm just wondering if we know for certain it's an Indian journalist
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Which sane Pakistani will ever question Rizwan supporting Palestine is what I am saying. It was an Indian journalist for sure.
 
Rajdeep said:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1715028407900139537

Pathan is laying the facts
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The facts he's laying out may not be to your liking. Balaji became a massive hero in Pakistan on performance alone, nothing to do with religion. Pathan is now having to cover his back at home in Bharat by pointing out one fan who threw a nail, that too an unidentifed fan who could be anybody.
 
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MenInG said:
Oh they are trying - trying very hard becharay but Cummins didn't pay much attention to it.

https://imgur.com/iy7xjvP
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Cummins is quite brilliant in presscons. Even during the Ashes some leading questions were posed which he handled with a smile and a grim face later when he walked off.

What kind of a journalist asks an Australian about and Indo-Pak issue and then also gets facts wrong.
 
If I am right Babar gor some cheers from the crowds when he won the toss today. Pakistan may get better support in Bengaluru and Chennai. As long as they dont play India they will get better support almost everywhere in India. I saw a video of a Pkaistani Journalist in Bengaluru where he was interviewing people who came to buy tickets. It seems like the game today is soldout.
 
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