Disrespectful boos heard in Ahmedabad for Babar Azam during the toss for India vs Pakistan ICC World Cup group stage match, 2023

[BouncerGuy]

DMK Leader Slams 'Jai Shri Ram' Slogans At India-Pak Match, BJP Responds

DMK leader and Tamil Nadu minister Udhayanidhi Stalin has criticised the raising of 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans to mock a Pakistan cricketer during the India-Pakistan World Cup match in Ahmedabad Saturday. Mr Stalin's remarks have drawn a sharp response from BJP leaders, with the party's national spokesperson Gaurav Bhatia calling him a "mosquito" out to "spread poison".

Videos of people raising the slogans as Pakistan's wicketkeeper-batter Mohammad Rizwan walked to the dugout has sparked strong reactions. Many have said the sloganeering was against the spirit of cricket and amounted to harassing the cricketer.

Some voices, however, have pointed out to Mr Rizwan offering namaz on the field and expressing solidarity with the people in war-hit Gaza in an earlier match, alleging that it was the Pakistan cricketer who brought religion to the field.

Taking to X, Ms Stalin said India in known for its sportsmanship and hospitality, and the treatment of players from the neighbouring country was a "new low".

"India is renowned for its sportsmanship and hospitality. However, the treatment meted out to Pakistan players at Narendra Modi Stadium in Ahmedabad is unacceptable and a new low. Sports should be a unifying force between countries, fostering true brotherhood. Using it as a tool to spread hatred is condemnable," he posted.

Earlier, Mr Stalin had sparked a row with his remarks on Sanatana Dharma. The DMK leader, who is the son of Tamil Nadu Chief Minister and party chief MK Stalin, had said Sanatana Dharma is against the idea of social justice and must be "eradicated". "Sanatana is like malaria and dengue and so it must be eradicated and not opposed," he had said in September. The comment had drawn fire from the BJP.

Responding to his latest remark, BJP spokesperson Gaurav Bhatia posted on X in Hindi, "This hateful dengue, malaria mosquito is out to spread poison again. You don't have a problem when a match is paused for namaz on the field," he said. "Our Lord Ram resides in every corner of the universe, so say Jai Shri Ram," he added.

Trinamool Congress MP Saket Gokhale, too, has slammed raising of the slogans to heckle the Pakistani cricketer.

"PM Modi desperately wants India to host the 2036 Olympics. But if this is what BJP has reduced our audiences to - where they heckle a Pakistani player with chants of Jai Shri Ram - massive doubts remain over whether we're qualified & sporting enough to host ANY international sporting event," he wrote on X.

India posted a comfortable 7-wicket win against Pakistan Saturday, in its eight straight win against the neighbouring country in the World Cup.

The Pakistan team's visit to the World Cup and the grand welcome it has received in Hyderabad and Ahmedabad has drawn mixed responses. Many cricket fans have said political differences should not be allowed to ruin the game. Others have pointed to Pakistan's role in cross-border terrorism and questioned how normal sports relations can be maintained despite tension on the borders.

NDTV​

 

[Sir Alex]

In IPL, two Sri Lankans play for CSK. Other Sri Lankans playing for other teams have played in Chennai.

They are not even allowing a popular tamil actor to portray Muthia Muralitharam who is ironically tamil himself.

 

[globetrotter]

If Micky revisits history, he will withdraw his allegation

Incidents when Pakistani fans attacked & abused Indian players​

Punched Srikkanth - Former Indian opener Kris Srikanth was literally punched by a Pakistani supporter during India's tour of Pakistan in 1989-90.

Stone Pelting, 1989
On the same tour, Pakistani supporters pelted stones on Indian players in Karachi. Javed Miandad picked up one of the stones and requested them to calm down.

Stone Pelting, 1997
The history repeated itself in 1997 when the Karachi crowd pelted stones at the Indian players, forcing them to leave the ground.

 

[Sir Alex]

I bet you none of the issues would have arised if Pakistan had not lost.

Even a decent Pakistani loss would have not invited these comments. There was no fight at all from Pakistan - no silver line, so these issues are copium for a few fans.

But ought to appreciate the maturity of this forum when a majority of Pak fans actually ridicule these claims and instead point out that Pak and their coach need to fix their team first.

 

[Major]

What indian fans don't understand is that we condemn such acts while they defend it and don't call it wrong and use the past examples as justification.

Like I said, an Indian would defend rape if their own indian was involved. They would start giving examples of other rapes

 

[saqib.rai]

DMK Leader Slams 'Jai Shri Ram' Slogans At India-Pak Match, BJP Responds

DMK leader and Tamil Nadu minister Udhayanidhi Stalin has criticised the raising of 'Jai Shri Ram' slogans to mock a Pakistan cricketer during the India-Pakistan World Cup match in Ahmedabad Saturday. Mr Stalin's remarks have drawn a sharp response from BJP leaders, with the party's national spokesperson Gaurav Bhatia calling him a "mosquito" out to "spread poison".

Videos of people raising the slogans as Pakistan's wicketkeeper-batter Mohammad Rizwan walked to the dugout has sparked strong reactions. Many have said the sloganeering was against the spirit of cricket and amounted to harassing the cricketer.

Some voices, however, have pointed out to Mr Rizwan offering namaz on the field and expressing solidarity with the people in war-hit Gaza in an earlier match, alleging that it was the Pakistan cricketer who brought religion to the field.

Taking to X, Ms Stalin said India in known for its sportsmanship and hospitality, and the treatment of players from the neighbouring country was a "new low".

"India is renowned for its sportsmanship and hospitality. However, the treatment meted out to Pakistan players at Narendra Modi Stadium in Ahmedabad is unacceptable and a new low. Sports should be a unifying force between countries, fostering true brotherhood. Using it as a tool to spread hatred is condemnable," he posted.

Earlier, Mr Stalin had sparked a row with his remarks on Sanatana Dharma. The DMK leader, who is the son of Tamil Nadu Chief Minister and party chief MK Stalin, had said Sanatana Dharma is against the idea of social justice and must be "eradicated". "Sanatana is like malaria and dengue and so it must be eradicated and not opposed," he had said in September. The comment had drawn fire from the BJP.

Responding to his latest remark, BJP spokesperson Gaurav Bhatia posted on X in Hindi, "This hateful dengue, malaria mosquito is out to spread poison again. You don't have a problem when a match is paused for namaz on the field," he said. "Our Lord Ram resides in every corner of the universe, so say Jai Shri Ram," he added.

Trinamool Congress MP Saket Gokhale, too, has slammed raising of the slogans to heckle the Pakistani cricketer.

"PM Modi desperately wants India to host the 2036 Olympics. But if this is what BJP has reduced our audiences to - where they heckle a Pakistani player with chants of Jai Shri Ram - massive doubts remain over whether we're qualified & sporting enough to host ANY international sporting event," he wrote on X.

India posted a comfortable 7-wicket win against Pakistan Saturday, in its eight straight win against the neighbouring country in the World Cup.

The Pakistan team's visit to the World Cup and the grand welcome it has received in Hyderabad and Ahmedabad has drawn mixed responses. Many cricket fans have said political differences should not be allowed to ruin the game. Others have pointed to Pakistan's role in cross-border terrorism and questioned how normal sports relations can be maintained despite tension on the borders.

NDTV​

He's a politician from the South. They don't really care about Hindu nationalism anyways

The minds of the people of the Hindi belt (Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Jharkand, MP) and Gujrat have been corrupted beyond repair

 

[Mesozoic]

I bet you none of the issues would have arised if Pakistan had not lost.

/Thread

 

[King_Babar]

I don't understand this. Rizwan doing sajda mid pitch after a landmark is civilized and OK but when other people express their religion it isn't? Either allow both or allow none. How do you judge what is provocation and what is not? If Kohli , who's playing at Karachi , brings out an idol and stats doing puja mid pitch after India has won a match,m, will that not be looked down upon, if not treated as a provocation?

I am in favor of zero religion in sports. Let it be limited to places of worship or in private.

If Kohli hits a century and then takes out "Ganesh" or any other Idol and start doing pooja silently, no one in world should have problem with this, unless Virat does the same thing by going under Babar's nose and start shouting with slogans to provoke him.

Also, how easily you ignored other points especially abuses being hurled directly to Pakistan is baffling.

 

[TheSultan]

Do you realize that BJP/RSS was/is in never in any control of Kolkatta (Calcutta) back in the 90s or even now as of this day ?? Dont take my word ...ask around or just google.

That wasn’t my point and I wasn’t saying it was related. I was merely pointing out separate reasons. But if you take them as a collective, then Pakistan should have prepared for a hostile crowd.

Yes we must be fair, and there have been positive instances of Indian crowds such as the Chennai one which applauded Pakistan’s test victory in 1999.

You hope for the best but prepare for the worst. I.e. we shouldn’t use the crowd as an excuse for anything

 

[King_Babar]

If Micky revisits history, he will withdraw his allegation

Incidents when Pakistani fans attacked & abused Indian players​

Punched Srikkanth - Former Indian opener Kris Srikanth was literally punched by a Pakistani supporter during India's tour of Pakistan in 1989-90.

Stone Pelting, 1989
On the same tour, Pakistani supporters pelted stones on Indian players in Karachi. Javed Miandad picked up one of the stones and requested them to calm down.

Stone Pelting, 1997
The history repeated itself in 1997 when the Karachi crowd pelted stones at the Indian players, forcing them to leave the ground.

You appear to have misconstrued the entire conversation. The focus isn't on quantifying the extent of the actions, but rather on condemning any such behavior, irrespective of its magnitude. The objective is to prevent the normalization of such actions for future generations. It is disconcerting to witness individuals here expressing acceptance when fans shout abusive and filthy slogans aimed at opponents. It never impacts the other person, it just reflects where you come from.

 

[globetrotter]

You appear to have misconstrued the entire conversation. The focus isn't on quantifying the extent of the actions, but rather on condemning any such behavior, irrespective of its magnitude. The objective is to prevent the normalization of such actions for future generations. It is disconcerting to witness individuals here expressing acceptance when fans shout abusive and filthy slogans aimed at opponents. It never impacts the other person, it just reflects where you come from.

then you are selective in judging crowd behaviors......

 

[kumjsr]

You appear to have misconstrued the entire conversation. The focus isn't on quantifying the extent of the actions, but rather on condemning any such behavior, irrespective of its magnitude. The objective is to prevent the normalization of such actions for future generations. It is disconcerting to witness individuals here expressing acceptance when fans shout abusive and filthy slogans aimed at opponents. It never impacts the other person, it just reflects where you come from.

Where is the appreciation for the respectful behavior by same crowd on exact same day?

 

[emranabbas]

If Micky revisits history, he will withdraw his allegation

Incidents when Pakistani fans attacked & abused Indian players​

Punched Srikkanth - Former Indian opener Kris Srikanth was literally punched by a Pakistani supporter during India's tour of Pakistan in 1989-90.

Stone Pelting, 1989
On the same tour, Pakistani supporters pelted stones on Indian players in Karachi. Javed Miandad picked up one of the stones and requested them to calm down.

Stone Pelting, 1997
The history repeated itself in 1997 when the Karachi crowd pelted stones at the Indian players, forcing them to leave the ground.

We are not living in the 90's anymore things have moved on

To be fair normal pakistani don't give too hoots about india any more it's just an indian thing now, nd India should move om too

Reminds me of a saying

"Money can't buy class"

 

[King_Babar]

then you are selective in judging crowd behaviors......

How? How is condemning every such incident irrespective of religion, region, caste being called as "Selective Judgement"?

 

[King_Babar]

Where is the appreciation for the respectful behavior by same crowd on exact same day?

Whole Pakistan including players have appreciated India for being excellent hosts so far. Stop being unrealistic and agnostic to accept facts.

 

[kumjsr]

Whole Pakistan including players have appreciated India for being excellent hosts so far. Stop being unrealistic and agnostic to accept facts.

I am not talking about other stadiums. I am specifically talking about India - Pakistan game and Ahmedabad crowd.

I see only criticism for boos, when same crowd appreciated and showed respect to the Pakistani side multiple times during the game.

 

[MenInG]

I am not talking about other stadiums. I am specifically talking about India - Pakistan game and Ahmedabad crowd.

I see only criticism for boos, when same crowd appreciated and showed respect to the Pakistani side multiple times during the game.

By going quiet when they hit a boundary?

I know this is acceptable from Indian crowds and somehow is the 'charm' of playing in India but to think this is somehow normal is taking it to another level.

 

[kumjsr]

By going quiet when they hit a boundary?

I know this is acceptable from Indian crowds and somehow is the 'charm' of playing in India but to think this is somehow normal is taking it to another level.

By clapping when Babar scored 50.

By standing up when national anthem of Pakistan was being played.

By clapping when Hasan Ali was going back.

 

[zaidihusain]

If Micky revisits history, he will withdraw his allegation

Incidents when Pakistani fans attacked & abused Indian players​

Punched Srikkanth - Former Indian opener Kris Srikanth was literally punched by a Pakistani supporter during India's tour of Pakistan in 1989-90.

Stone Pelting, 1989
On the same tour, Pakistani supporters pelted stones on Indian players in Karachi. Javed Miandad picked up one of the stones and requested them to calm down.

Stone Pelting, 1997
The history repeated itself in 1997 when the Karachi crowd pelted stones at the Indian players, forcing them to leave the ground.

Such kind of incidents are without any doubt totally reprehensible but in 90s era these were common in sub-continent. Let me share few more:

1. In 1996 SF crowd at Eden Gardens began hurling bottles on the field. The seats were set on fire and the game was stopped by match referee Clive Lloyd. Sri Lanka was declared winner by default.

2. Inzamam was called Aalu Aalu by crown in 1999 Delhi test match

3. 1999 Kolkata Test match: When Sachin got run out accidentally due to collision with Shoaib Akthar crowd started chanting "cheat, cheat", and pelting Shoaib Akhtar with bottles and other objects. The match was temporarily stopped.

"Eventually the umpires took the players from the field for an early tea and it was only after personal pleas from Tendulkar and ICC president Jagmohan Dalmiya that the match was able to resume. "It was good of Sachin to go out and pacify the crowd," said Dinesh Vajpal, Calcutta's chief of police. "Fortunately we had not allowed spectators to bring in anything lethal."
Source: Cricinfo

4. 1996 India Vs Aus Titan Cup (Bangalore):
When Azharuddin was given LBW, crowd went berserk. They pelted empty water bottles at the Australian fielders close to the boundary rope and the match was stalled. It was only after Azharuddin himself walked out to pacify the crowds that they calmed down

 

[globetrotter]

All these allegations wouldn't come if the match result was reverse............ Congratulations to PCB and Pakistan Team Management for distracting their fans from the core issue i.e. match results.... many former pakistani cricketers also slammed Mickey for his comments..... Team management was busy in noting crowd behavior rather that noting their players weak points and weaknesses

 

[Technics 1210]

All these allegations wouldn't come if the match result was reverse............ Congratulations to PCB and Pakistan Team Management for distracting their fans from the core issue i.e. match results.... many former pakistani cricketers also slammed Mickey for his comments..... Team management was busy in noting crowd behavior rather that noting their players weak points and weaknesses

Allegations?

If Pakistan had won the match then the crowd would have been in more of a focus because the win would have been put into perspective - Pak beat Indian in India in front of 130K Indian hostile fans, silent fans, Ahmedabad, RSS heartlands etc. In other words the context would have made the win much more sweeter!

 

[Technics 1210]

Also, keep in mind, when trying to buy tickets for this match, the nationality of the person was required!

No World Cup sporting event in any part of of the world asks for a nationality when buying tickets! But in this case, we all know why nationality had to be mentioned!

 

[King_Babar]

By clapping when Babar scored 50.

By standing up when national anthem of Pakistan was being played.

By clapping when Hasan Ali was going back.

These occurrences are commonplace in every sport and happen from time to time. Supporting a player doesn't entail doing them a favor, as it is a natural part of the sports environment. However, criticizing and disparaging a player's nation and mother is something that should be unequivocally condemned at all costs.

There doesn't appear to be any Indian expressing concern about this. This clearly suggests the direction in which the country is moving.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Babar being booed at the toss was normal- opposing players get booed all the time in football.

But 'jai shri ram' chants directed at Rizwan after he got out and the 'tum hamare bache hoo, hum tumhare baap hain' slogans were utterly disrespectful and shameless. If this had happened in a Pakistani stadium, the ICC would have banned that stadium from hosting international games for a substantial period of time by justifying it through spirit of cricket.

I was a big supporter of Us going to India for the World Cup, as boycotting would have ended up hurting us more than India and the ICC.

BUT now I feel we should have not played in Ahmedabad, should have demanded change in venue and boycotted the game if the venue was not changed.

Also we have India written on our jersey when they refused to write Pakistan on theirs during the Asia Cup. We should just cover India on the jerseys and pay whatever fine ICC imposes.

Also Ahmedabad showed how much India is divided, people in the South hardly care about the Hindu nationalism of the BJP but the people in the Hindi belt and Gujrat have become bigots.

India was never a homogenous society. It is like baskin robbins where you get all flavours. People in the North were more affected due to Partition while in South it was largely unaffected. Hence teh hindu-muslim divide is very glaring. Also in South people irrespective of religion speak the local language except Hyderabad where the muslims speak Urdu. In kerala people of all religions celebrate Onam. We take pride in our language and culture. Hence you find strong opposition when Hindi is imposed or jallikattu is banned. BJP is not popular in South because in all states other than Karnataka regional parties are very strong.

Pakistan will find support in all matches it will play except those against India. Bengaluru and Chennai crowds to wholeheartedly appreciate Pakistan if it plays well but will not cheer for Pakistan if it played India in those venues. If its a close match that Pakistan wins they will give a standing ovation after the match like in 1999 test match. But during teh match opposition 4s and 6s will be welcomed with deafening silence. As Salman Butt said thats the uniqueness of Indian crowd. They will not cheer for any other team except India. For good or bad thats how Indian fans are.

 

[Devadwal]

This images is show how much Indian fan's love Afghanistan players and their team.

 

[ex-q-zit]

This images is show how much Indian fan's love Afghanistan players and their team. View attachment 137714

I think its an Afghani fan not Indian. There are 1000s of Afghani refugees in Delhi.

 

[Bhaijaan]

This images is show how much Indian fan's love Afghanistan players and their team. View attachment 137714

It’s simple.

You come to Bharat & show respect to our culture and our nation, you will be welcomed with open arms and you would be given excellent hospitality and every bit of support we can offer. This is why Bharat is known in the whole world for its unmatched hospitality. Anyone who’s had a taste of the proper Bharatiya hospitality will never regard any other country above because as per history, religion and traditions, guest is considered Godlike. Hindus believe that God often tests our courtesy by arriving at our door in the form of a guest. If you turn a guest away unhappy, you might attract the wrath of God. This is also why begging is a problem in our country because turning away a beggar or anyone in need is also something Hindus by nature do not want to do. Whatever little they can do, they always help. Again this why, nowhere else in the world you would see public funded philanthropy.

The problem with Pakistanis is their unending malicious propaganda against our country. Half of these controversies are just created out of thin air just to create an atmosphere or at least give the sense that things are bad and that nothing is going right when in actual this has been such a good World Cup and a lot of efforts have been made by BCCI and Bharatiya people to ensure best possible atmosphere for the visiting teams. 8 other teams are enjoying their stay and are thankful for our efforts, only 1 team i.e., Pakistan is constantly whinging day in day out.

This is why a section (not all) of the Bharatiya fans are absolutely fed up with them and are mocking them when they can. Things could be so much worse but unlike what is being propagated , Bharatiyas really have better things to do in their lives than indulging in Pakistan bashing.

 

[MenInG]

This images is show how much Indian fan's love Afghanistan players and their team. View attachment 137714

Of course one picture is proof

It’s simple.

You come to Bharat & show respect to our culture and our nation, you will be welcomed with open arms and you would be given excellent hospitality and every bit of support we can offer. This is why Bharat is known in the whole world for its unmatched hospitality. Anyone who’s had a taste of the proper Bharatiya hospitality will never regard any other country above because as per history, religion and traditions, guest is considered Godlike. Hindus believe that God often tests our courtesy by arriving at our door in the form of a guest. If you turn a guest away unhappy, you might attract the wrath of God. This is also why begging is a problem in our country because turning away a beggar or anyone in need is also something Hindus by nature do not want to do. Whatever little they can do, they always help. Again this why, nowhere else in the world you would see public funded philanthropy.

The problem with Pakistanis is their unending malicious propaganda against our country. Half of these controversies are just created out of thin air just to create an atmosphere or at least give the sense that things are bad and that nothing is going right when in actual this has been such a good World Cup and a lot of efforts have been made by BCCI and Bharatiya people to ensure best possible atmosphere for the visiting teams. 8 other teams are enjoying their stay and are thankful for our efforts, only 1 team i.e., Pakistan is constantly whinging day in day out.

This is why a section (not all) of the Bharatiya fans are absolutely fed up with them and are mocking them when they can. Things could be so much worse but unlike what is being propagated , Bharatiyas really have better things to do in their lives than indulging in Pakistan bashing.

Above is exactly what Mickey meant when he said seemed like a bilateral game and not a global ICC event where its not coloured by local prejudice such as the one demonstrated above.

Good too see some true colours coming out.

 

[Devadwal]

It’s simple.

You come to Bharat & show respect to our culture and our nation, you will be welcomed with open arms and you would be given excellent hospitality and every bit of support we can offer. This is why Bharat is known in the whole world for its unmatched hospitality. Anyone who’s had a taste of the proper Bharatiya hospitality will never regard any other country above because as per history, religion and traditions, guest is considered Godlike. Hindus believe that God often tests our courtesy by arriving at our door in the form of a guest. If you turn a guest away unhappy, you might attract the wrath of God. This is also why begging is a problem in our country because turning away a beggar or anyone in need is also something Hindus by nature do not want to do. Whatever little they can do, they always help. Again this why, nowhere else in the world you would see public funded philanthropy.

The problem with Pakistanis is their unending malicious propaganda against our country. Half of these controversies are just created out of thin air just to create an atmosphere or at least give the sense that things are bad and that nothing is going right when in actual this has been such a good World Cup and a lot of efforts have been made by BCCI and Bharatiya people to ensure best possible atmosphere for the visiting teams. 8 other teams are enjoying their stay and are thankful for our efforts, only 1 team i.e., Pakistan is constantly whinging day in day out.

This is why a section (not all) of the Bharatiya fans are absolutely fed up with them and are mocking them when they can. Things could be so much worse but unlike what is being propagated , Bharatiyas really have better things to do in their lives than indulging in Pakistan bashing.

Well put bro .this is why I said respect is earned .it's not just about how they play in the field but off the field also .but some people's don't get it becouse they only think about Pakistan point of views . indians people's are loving to AFG a Muslim countries is nothing to do about Pakistan .
When PCB chairman refer india as Dusman mulk , Rizwan offered Namaz in the stadium , Waqar mocking Hindu these are things Indian fan's never forget .
Summary - Indian crowd loves the game till the time you don’t mix your religion with the game as simple as that .

 

[ghalib kichlu]

It’s simple.

You come to Bharat & show respect to our culture and our nation, you will be welcomed with open arms and you would be given excellent hospitality and every bit of support we can offer. This is why Bharat is known in the whole world for its unmatched hospitality. Anyone who’s had a taste of the proper Bharatiya hospitality will never regard any other country above because as per history, religion and traditions, guest is considered Godlike. Hindus believe that God often tests our courtesy by arriving at our door in the form of a guest. If you turn a guest away unhappy, you might attract the wrath of God. This is also why begging is a problem in our country because turning away a beggar or anyone in need is also something Hindus by nature do not want to do. Whatever little they can do, they always help. Again this why, nowhere else in the world you would see public funded philanthropy.

The problem with Pakistanis is their unending malicious propaganda against our country. Half of these controversies are just created out of thin air just to create an atmosphere or at least give the sense that things are bad and that nothing is going right when in actual this has been such a good World Cup and a lot of efforts have been made by BCCI and Bharatiya people to ensure best possible atmosphere for the visiting teams. 8 other teams are enjoying their stay and are thankful for our efforts, only 1 team i.e., Pakistan is constantly whinging day in day out.

This is why a section (not all) of the Bharatiya fans are absolutely fed up with them and are mocking them when they can. Things could be so much worse but unlike what is being propagated , Bharatiyas really have better things to do in their lives than indulging in Pakistan bashing.

Exactly
Look at players like sarfraz, siraj and shami in the indian team
That shows that india accepts all faiths unequivocally

Pakistan fans have caused this by creating so much bad noise

 

[globetrotter]

It’s simple.

You come to Bharat & show respect to our culture and our nation, you will be welcomed with open arms and you would be given excellent hospitality and every bit of support we can offer. This is why Bharat is known in the whole world for its unmatched hospitality. Anyone who’s had a taste of the proper Bharatiya hospitality will never regard any other country above because as per history, religion and traditions, guest is considered Godlike. Hindus believe that God often tests our courtesy by arriving at our door in the form of a guest. If you turn a guest away unhappy, you might attract the wrath of God. This is also why begging is a problem in our country because turning away a beggar or anyone in need is also something Hindus by nature do not want to do. Whatever little they can do, they always help. Again this why, nowhere else in the world you would see public funded philanthropy.

The problem with Pakistanis is their unending malicious propaganda against our country. Half of these controversies are just created out of thin air just to create an atmosphere or at least give the sense that things are bad and that nothing is going right when in actual this has been such a good World Cup and a lot of efforts have been made by BCCI and Bharatiya people to ensure best possible atmosphere for the visiting teams. 8 other teams are enjoying their stay and are thankful for our efforts, only 1 team i.e., Pakistan is constantly whinging day in day out.

This is why a section (not all) of the Bharatiya fans are absolutely fed up with them and are mocking them when they can. Things could be so much worse but unlike what is being propagated , Bharatiyas really have better things to do in their lives than indulging in Pakistan bashing.

Exactly… why only one team have problem that too after humiliating defeat…

 

[BouncerGuy]

In a reply to journalist Rajdeep Sardesai, over the treatment meted out to Rizwan, Sivaramakrishnan wrote:

'What abuses I have got as a 16-year-old in Pakistan, only I know. From my color to my religion to my country and culture. For Heaven’s sake if you have not experienced it, please don’t talk about it. You can say whatever makes you happy.'

Rediff News

 

[kumjsr]

Also, keep in mind, when trying to buy tickets for this match, the nationality of the person was required!

No World Cup sporting event in any part of of the world asks for a nationality when buying tickets! But in this case, we all know why nationality had to be mentioned!

Also, keep in mind, when trying to buy tickets for this match, the nationality of the person was required!

No World Cup sporting event in any part of of the world asks for a nationality when buying tickets! But in this case, we all know why nationality had to be mentioned

There was no question related to nationality.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Of course one picture is proof


Above is exactly what Mickey meant when he said seemed like a bilateral game and not a global ICC event where its not coloured by local prejudice such as the one demonstrated above.

Good too see some true colours coming out.

My suggestion to Mickey is, to the entourage of support staff let him add a DJ who will continously play Dil Dil Pakistan in the dressing room and dugout so that Pakistan will win every match.

By the way he said it seemed like a bilateral match. So does he mean if its a bilateral match its OK to lose to India because of the partisan crowd? Pakistani fans should be more worried

- that not a single 6 was hit in entire innings
- That Pakistan has not hit a single 6 in PP this year after facing over 1000 balls
- That their bowling is toothless

But seems like they are more worried about crowds and songs.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Of course one picture is proof


Above is exactly what Mickey meant when he said seemed like a bilateral game and not a global ICC event where its not coloured by local prejudice such as the one demonstrated above.

Good too see some true colours coming out.

Bro the only true colours that we’re seeing are that of a certain section of the Pakistanis trying their level best (unsuccessfully) to sabotage this global event. Trying to create new needless controversy every day out of thin air. It’s one thing today, something tomorrow, we too took this as jokes early on but now we are also fed up while dealing with this constant negativity and hate from Pakistan’s side. Honestly if this is all that the Pakistanis are going to resort to, then i hope the Bharatiya fans petition against not inviting PCT in our country in future at all.

I’d rather see BCCI inviting Afghanistan, and other associate nations as they are way more respectful visitors.

The love and adulation showed at Afghanistan is a clear message and a big slap to anyone trying to make this a Hindu vs Muslim thing. Bharat as a country welcomes people from all religions , it’s our age old tradition. No wonder every religion has thrived in our country, including Muslims, Parsi, Jewish, Buddhist communities.

 

[MenInG]

My suggestion to Mickey is, to the entourage of support staff let him add a DJ who will continously play Dil Dil Pakistan in the dressing room and dugout so that Pakistan will win every match.

By the way he said it seemed like a bilateral match. So does he mean if its a bilateral match its OK to lose to India because of the partisan crowd? Pakistani fans should be more worried

- that not a single 6 was hit in entire innings
- That Pakistan has not hit a single 6 in PP this year after facing over 1000 balls
- That their bowling is toothless

But seems like they are more worried about crowds and songs.

Maybe I missed a whole section of the discussion on this thread. Is the thread titled "Pakistan lost the match because our favourite song was not played?"

I will tell you what, more worrying is the attitude of some do mental gymnastics to avoid condemning the actual topic of this thread.

 

[emranabbas]

It’s simple.

You come to Bharat & show respect to our culture and our nation, you will be welcomed with open arms and you would be given excellent hospitality and every bit of support we can offer. This is why Bharat is known in the whole world for its unmatched hospitality. Anyone who’s had a taste of the proper Bharatiya hospitality will never regard any other country above because as per history, religion and traditions, guest is considered Godlike. Hindus believe that God often tests our courtesy by arriving at our door in the form of a guest. If you turn a guest away unhappy, you might attract the wrath of God. This is also why begging is a problem in our country because turning away a beggar or anyone in need is also something Hindus by nature do not want to do. Whatever little they can do, they always help. Again this why, nowhere else in the world you would see public funded philanthropy.

The problem with Pakistanis is their unending malicious propaganda against our country. Half of these controversies are just created out of thin air just to create an atmosphere or at least give the sense that things are bad and that nothing is going right when in actual this has been such a good World Cup and a lot of efforts have been made by BCCI and Bharatiya people to ensure best possible atmosphere for the visiting teams. 8 other teams are enjoying their stay and are thankful for our efforts, only 1 team i.e., Pakistan is constantly whinging day in day out.

This is why a section (not all) of the Bharatiya fans are absolutely fed up with them and are mocking them when they can. Things could be so much worse but unlike what is being propagated , Bharatiyas really have better things to do in their lives than indulging in Pakistan bashing.

Nice Post bro but just need to correct you about the whinging part

Pakistan team has come to your country just like any of the other team but the treatment from the Bharatis has been very different compared to how they are treating other teams.

First the bharatis are spending hours digging every players and representatives social media accounts to see if anything offensive has been said towards Bharat in the past and then whinging about it online. I mean these checks could have been done before granting the visas instead of creating commotion in middle of a world cup tournament

Then the bhartis are whinging about rizwan's tweet about Palestine. Rizwan would have tweeted that regardless if the worldcup was in India or anywhere else in the world and wait a minute whats that got to do with Bharat? Last time I checked your not Palestine or Israel so its none of your business.

Then during the toss the bharatis are booing babar azam I don't see them booing at any other captains of other teams when bharaat are playing them

Then the bharatis have issue with rizwan praying on the field its not the first time rizwan has prayed on the field he has prayed almost on every field he has played on and guess what no one ever had an issue the only people who have been whinging about it is bharatis. I have also seen mahraj of South Africa practice his religion on the field and don't see any other Muslim teams whinging about it

Then when rizwan is walking back to the pavilion bharatis are coming up his face shouting shri ramji stuff

Now tell me who is whinging its the bharatis that are bringing religion and politics in the worldcup

To be fair bharaat is a very poor host, should not be allowed to host in the future but that's not going to happen because bharaat has money.

One thing money can't buy is class and Bharat lack of it

 

[Itachi]

JAI SHRI RAM is not religous?

It is. But that doesn't fall under booing.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Bro the only true colours that we’re seeing are that of a certain section of the Pakistanis trying their level best (unsuccessfully) to sabotage this global event. Trying to create new needless controversy every day out of thin air. It’s one thing today, something tomorrow, we too took this as jokes early on but now we are also fed up while dealing with this constant negativity and hate from Pakistan’s side. Honestly if this is all that the Pakistanis are going to resort to, then i hope the Bharatiya fans petition against not inviting PCT in our country in future at all.

I’d rather see BCCI inviting Afghanistan, and other associate nations as they are way more respectful visitors.

The love and adulation showed at Afghanistan is a clear message and a big slap to anyone trying to make this a Hindu vs Muslim thing. Bharat as a country welcomes people from all religions , it’s our age old tradition. No wonder every religion has thrived in our country, including Muslims, Parsi, Jewish, Buddhist communities.

This has been your govt policy for the last 15 years anyway, what difference would it make? Why would Pakistan fans respect or appreciate Bharat when they have tried their level best to sideline and damage Pakistan cricket?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nice Post bro but just need to correct you about the whinging part

Pakistan team has come to your country just like any of the other team but the treatment from the Bharatis has been very different compared to how they are treating other teams.

First the bharatis are spending hours digging every players and representatives social media accounts to see if anything offensive has been said towards Bharat in the past and then whinging about it online. I mean these checks could have been done before granting the visas instead of creating commotion in middle of a world cup tournament

Then the bhartis are whinging about rizwan's tweet about Palestine. Rizwan would have tweeted that regardless if the worldcup was in India or anywhere else in the world and wait a minute whats that got to do with Bharat? Last time I checked your not Palestine or Israel so its none of your business.

Then during the toss the bharatis are booing babar azam I don't see them booing at any other captains of other teams when bharaat are playing them

Then the bharatis have issue with rizwan praying on the field its not the first time rizwan has prayed on the field he has prayed almost on every field he has played on and guess what no one ever had an issue the only people who have been whinging about it is bharatis. I have also seen mahraj of South Africa practice his religion on the field and don't see any other Muslim teams whinging about it

Then when rizwan is walking back to the pavilion bharatis are coming up his face shouting shri ramji stuff

Now tell me who is whinging its the bharatis that are bringing religion and politics in the worldcup

To be fair bharaat is a very poor host, should not be allowed to host in the future but that's not going to happen because bharaat has money.

One thing money can't buy is class and Bharat lack of it

Fantastic post.

 

[Robbie]

Oh my.. Gujartis have boo'ed Pakistan and not serving any biryanis .. Big deal!!!

Grow up and accept that your team is not good and atleast 7 level below the Bharat team.

Deflecting your team incompetence to Gujarati public.. I knew it would happen when Babar got boo'ed when the game started.

To those who are objecting to 'Jai Shri Ram' first ban 'Pakistan ka matlab kya ...' chants and 'Allah hu....' chants in your stadiums.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Stop these appeasement of the Pakistani players & for heaven sake the coying display of welcome- they are like any other team who have come here to play the game & deserve no special attention. They are not our guests- they are reluctantly here on ICC directive & we should always remember that. I for one, am happy the kid gloves were taken off the field - they are our rivals and will be treated that way. Too bad if the Pak cricketers couldn’t take the pressure!

Before coming here, their board president called us an enemy country, their ex-cricketers constantly take pot-shots at our religion, call us weak and not what because we don’t eat meat, so why should we bear their insults? We know to give back as good as we get.

Yes, no DJ will play Dil Dil Pakistan (but neither does the DJ play songs from any other country) , but that is not the reason they get beaten soundly by us every time we meet. It is just a deflection tactic by their non-present, non-performing coach who can’t be bothered to be present for any of their games but is scared of losing his side income.

Also lastly you Chennaiites wouldn’t let Sri Lankan cricketers play in your state for a long time due to political reasons, so why are you guys now appeasing the Pakistanis? As if you guys are morally superior to the rest of the country.

When I see whataboutism as a counter to my view, I sense it is not worth responding to. But, as an exception, I reply to make things clear.

I am not here to get an award from random people on the internet and there is no need for me to appease anyone. So, stop the nonsense.

I looked at the crowd behavior in isolation and found it not good. I am aware, that in Pakistan, stones were thrown, the crowd invaded the pitch, etc. But those incidents do not justify our behavior.

In Tamil Nadu, some political parties opposed playing cricket matches with Sri Lankan players. This was during or just after the civil war. But, I don't remember any Sri Lankan cricketers being stopped or abused. Also, I am not a spokesperson of Tamil Nadu. I represent myself and all opinions are mine.

 

[ChennaiFan]

They are not even allowing a popular tamil actor to portray Muthia Muralitharam who is ironically tamil himself.

Murali lives in Chennai as well. You don't appear to know the reason for actors choosing not to do the role. Ignorance. Let us leave it there.

 

[FPresidential]

Oh my.. Gujartis have boo'ed Pakistan and not serving any biryanis .. Big deal!!!

Grow up and accept that your team is not good and atleast 7 level below the Bharat team.

Deflecting your team incompetence to Gujarati public.. I knew it would happen when Babar got boo'ed when the game started.

To those who are objecting to 'Jai Shri Ram' first ban 'Pakistan ka matlab kya ...' chants and 'Allah hu....' chants in your stadiums.

If Pakistan were to win that game then instead of booing and being bigots they'd be throwing themselves on the field or maybe burned down the stadium.

Pak did a favor to ya'll by loosing, imagine out of sheer hate burning down Narendar Modi stadium.

 

[FPresidential]

Nice Post bro but just need to correct you about the whinging part

Pakistan team has come to your country just like any of the other team but the treatment from the Bharatis has been very different compared to how they are treating other teams.

First the bharatis are spending hours digging every players and representatives social media accounts to see if anything offensive has been said towards Bharat in the past and then whinging about it online. I mean these checks could have been done before granting the visas instead of creating commotion in middle of a world cup tournament

Then the bhartis are whinging about rizwan's tweet about Palestine. Rizwan would have tweeted that regardless if the worldcup was in India or anywhere else in the world and wait a minute whats that got to do with Bharat? Last time I checked your not Palestine or Israel so its none of your business.

Then during the toss the bharatis are booing babar azam I don't see them booing at any other captains of other teams when bharaat are playing them

Then the bharatis have issue with rizwan praying on the field its not the first time rizwan has prayed on the field he has prayed almost on every field he has played on and guess what no one ever had an issue the only people who have been whinging about it is bharatis. I have also seen mahraj of South Africa practice his religion on the field and don't see any other Muslim teams whinging about it

Then when rizwan is walking back to the pavilion bharatis are coming up his face shouting shri ramji stuff

Now tell me who is whinging its the bharatis that are bringing religion and politics in the worldcup

To be fair bharaat is a very poor host, should not be allowed to host in the future but that's not going to happen because bharaat has money.

One thing money can't buy is class and Bharat lack of it

Sum it up quite nicely.

 

[Sunzi]

I bet you none of the issues would have arised if Pakistan had not lost.

Fair is fair, and in fairness this thread was created 7mins before play started.

That said, the feeling has no doubt intensified with the loss and the severity of the loss.

 

[Hassan A]

Indians slam ‘unapologetic Islamophobia’ aimed at Pakistan’s cricket team

The Ahmedabad crowd’s hostile behaviour and ‘Islamophobic’ chants targeting Pakistan’s cricket team have trigged criticism in India.

It started with deafening boos when Pakistan captain Babar Azam took his turn to speak after the toss in the middle of the Narendra Modi Stadium in Ahmedabad and carried on long after India had inflicted another heavy loss on their neighbours in the ICC Cricket World Cup.

The Pakistani cricketers were at the receiving end of incessant hostilities from the crowd during their match against the hosts at the world’s biggest cricket stadium, named after India’s prime minister and leader of the right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), in his hometown.

As the match got under way, and with Pakistan fans effectively banned by the Indian authorities, the partisan nature of the crowd became evident as any boundary scored by the Pakistani batters was met with pin-drop silence.

When Muhammad Rizwan – Pakistan’s hero in their run chase against Sri Lanka earlier last week – walked back to the pavilion after his dismissal, the crowd surrounding the walkway mockingly greeted him with chants of “Jai Shri Ram [Hail Lord Ram]”.

The Hindi-language chant has emerged as a war cry by Hindu far-right groups and is often used in a derogatory manner against the country’s Muslim population.

Pakistan were dismissed for 191 runs in 42.5 overs, setting an easy target for India’s star-studded batting lineup amid a sea of blue Indian shirts in the stands.

India captain Rohit Sharma smashed six sixes and six fours as India eased home, much to the delight of the thousands of supporters seated in the saffron-coloured stands.

The jubilant crowd made it a point to add insult to injury and shouted expletive-laden chants when Pakistan stepped on to the field as Sharma and his team made merry on the pitch.

Indian sports writer Karthik Krishnawamy termed the crowd’s behaviour “unapologetic Islamophobia” and urged the Pakistan Cricket Board to file a complaint against it.

Never seen such hostility’
Veteran cricket writer Kuldip Lal believes the behaviour of the crowd, including several BJP members, has a lot to do with the stadium’s location, Ahmedabad.

“If there is one venue where you would have such strong anti-Pakistan public sentiment, it’s Ahmedabad,” Lal told Al Jazeera.

“In my 30 years of covering cricket, I have never seen such hostility anywhere else in India,” he said.

The reception handed out to Pakistan on Saturday was in stark contrast to their previous two matches, which were played in the southern city of Hyderabad.


The Hyderabad crowd roared for Babar when he stepped on the field and cheered for Rizwan when he guided his team home with a fighting century.

Lal believes locals at some other famous Indian cricket venues, such as Chennai and Bengaluru, have traditionally been better sports fans who appreciate the game instead of putting on an over-zealous display of politics.

“The people in Ahmedabad weren’t there to enjoy the match, they had their own political agendas,” he said.

Lal, who has visited Pakistan on several occasions since he began covering Indian cricket as a sports journalist in 1982, says he has fond memories of the trips he made with the Indian team.

“It has been likewise for Pakistan’s cricketers, fans and journalists who have always been warmly welcomed by Indians whenever they have visited in the past, especially during the last Cricket World Cup that India hosted in 2011,” he recalled.

Political stadium used as political statement’
While the jingoistic display on Saturday was cheered by many Indian fans, not all of them appreciated it and distanced themselves from it on social media.

“It [the stadium] was built as a political statement. It is used like a political statement,” Gaurav Nandan Tripathi wrote in a post on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

“The audience that comes here [Ahmedabad], think they are free to do these shenanigans because they know it’s all allowed in the saffron den. Politics affects culture.”

Didn’t seem like an ICC event’
Pakistan’s head coach Mickey Arthur took notice of the hostilities and said the match “didn’t seem like an ICC event” and more a part of a bilateral series hosted by the Indian cricket board.

“I didn’t hear ‘Dil Dil Pakistan’ coming through the microphones too often tonight,” he said, referring to the Pakistani song that has become an unofficial cricket anthem for the team.

“That does play a role. But I’m not going to use that as an excuse [for the loss],” he told reporters after the match.

Prior to the match, an Indian travel website tapped into the pre-match hysteria in its tournament advertisement campaign by inviting Pakistani fans to India and offering them various discounts based on their team’s (predicted) loss margins.

The campaign was largely slammed in India, but some Indian cricket fans said they wanted “Pakistani fans to come to India” as they enjoyed “watching them lose matches to India”.

Pakistan’s tournament campaign returns to south India, where they will play their remaining six matches of the group stage.

Their next match is against Australia in Bengaluru, where sports writer Lal expects a “sporting crowd” to welcome them.

“I hope and pray what we saw in Ahmedabad will not happen again, and I am quite sure it won’t as the crowds in Bengaluru understand and respect sport and sportspersons of all countries.”

Indians slam ‘unapologetic Islamophobia’ aimed at Pakistan’s cricket team

Pakistani cricketers were the target of a hostile crowd during a World Cup match against India at Ahmedabad.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Sunzi]

It’s simple.

You come to Bharat & show respect to our culture and our nation, you will be welcomed with open arms and you would be given excellent hospitality and every bit of support we can offer. This is why Bharat is known in the whole world for its unmatched hospitality. Anyone who’s had a taste of the proper Bharatiya hospitality will never regard any other country above because as per history, religion and traditions, guest is considered Godlike. Hindus believe that God often tests our courtesy by arriving at our door in the form of a guest. If you turn a guest away unhappy, you might attract the wrath of God. This is also why begging is a problem in our country because turning away a beggar or anyone in need is also something Hindus by nature do not want to do. Whatever little they can do, they always help. Again this why, nowhere else in the world you would see public funded philanthropy.

The problem with Pakistanis is their unending malicious propaganda against our country. Half of these controversies are just created out of thin air just to create an atmosphere or at least give the sense that things are bad and that nothing is going right when in actual this has been such a good World Cup and a lot of efforts have been made by BCCI and Bharatiya people to ensure best possible atmosphere for the visiting teams. 8 other teams are enjoying their stay and are thankful for our efforts, only 1 team i.e., Pakistan is constantly whinging day in day out.

This is why a section (not all) of the Bharatiya fans are absolutely fed up with them and are mocking them when they can. Things could be so much worse but unlike what is being propagated , Bharatiyas really have better things to do in their lives than indulging in Pakistan bashing.

Israeli levels of propaganda.

Blaming Pakistan like Israel does with Palestinians, while slowly taking over the land.

 

[Itachi]

This is the victim mentality for which, Pakistan is in such timid stage. India used to be one, but then took control by either giving it back or going through the proper channel.

If it is such a big issue, then PCB should bring together all other countries and make official representation in front of ICC. Instead, every elements of the system i.e. pakistan is crying for victim. Why not go through the proper channel? Why try to use it a blanket to cover the actual failure of the system from the eyes of the gullible pakistani people?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Would love to know the reason why were they booing Pakistani players? For being muslims or Pakistani muslims?

 

[Stewie]

This is the victim mentality for which, Pakistan is in such timid stage. India used to be one, but then took control by either giving it back or going through the proper channel.

If it is such a big issue, then PCB should bring together all other countries and make official representation in front of ICC. Instead, every elements of the system i.e. pakistan is crying for victim. Why not go through the proper channel? Why try to use it a blanket to cover the actual failure of the system from the eyes of the gullible pakistani people?

So the only way Indians will become better hosts is if the world gangs up on them? there is no shame internally, is what you are saying? lol

Who is being a graceless winner now like Irfan Pathan likes to say all the time?

 

[Technics 1210]

Indians slam ‘unapologetic Islamophobia’ aimed at Pakistan’s cricket team

The Ahmedabad crowd’s hostile behaviour and ‘Islamophobic’ chants targeting Pakistan’s cricket team have trigged criticism in India.

It started with deafening boos when Pakistan captain Babar Azam took his turn to speak after the toss in the middle of the Narendra Modi Stadium in Ahmedabad and carried on long after India had inflicted another heavy loss on their neighbours in the ICC Cricket World Cup.

The Pakistani cricketers were at the receiving end of incessant hostilities from the crowd during their match against the hosts at the world’s biggest cricket stadium, named after India’s prime minister and leader of the right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), in his hometown.

As the match got under way, and with Pakistan fans effectively banned by the Indian authorities, the partisan nature of the crowd became evident as any boundary scored by the Pakistani batters was met with pin-drop silence.

When Muhammad Rizwan – Pakistan’s hero in their run chase against Sri Lanka earlier last week – walked back to the pavilion after his dismissal, the crowd surrounding the walkway mockingly greeted him with chants of “Jai Shri Ram [Hail Lord Ram]”.

The Hindi-language chant has emerged as a war cry by Hindu far-right groups and is often used in a derogatory manner against the country’s Muslim population.

Pakistan were dismissed for 191 runs in 42.5 overs, setting an easy target for India’s star-studded batting lineup amid a sea of blue Indian shirts in the stands.

India captain Rohit Sharma smashed six sixes and six fours as India eased home, much to the delight of the thousands of supporters seated in the saffron-coloured stands.

The jubilant crowd made it a point to add insult to injury and shouted expletive-laden chants when Pakistan stepped on to the field as Sharma and his team made merry on the pitch.

Indian sports writer Karthik Krishnawamy termed the crowd’s behaviour “unapologetic Islamophobia” and urged the Pakistan Cricket Board to file a complaint against it.

Never seen such hostility’
Veteran cricket writer Kuldip Lal believes the behaviour of the crowd, including several BJP members, has a lot to do with the stadium’s location, Ahmedabad.

“If there is one venue where you would have such strong anti-Pakistan public sentiment, it’s Ahmedabad,” Lal told Al Jazeera.

“In my 30 years of covering cricket, I have never seen such hostility anywhere else in India,” he said.

The reception handed out to Pakistan on Saturday was in stark contrast to their previous two matches, which were played in the southern city of Hyderabad.


The Hyderabad crowd roared for Babar when he stepped on the field and cheered for Rizwan when he guided his team home with a fighting century.

Lal believes locals at some other famous Indian cricket venues, such as Chennai and Bengaluru, have traditionally been better sports fans who appreciate the game instead of putting on an over-zealous display of politics.

“The people in Ahmedabad weren’t there to enjoy the match, they had their own political agendas,” he said.

Lal, who has visited Pakistan on several occasions since he began covering Indian cricket as a sports journalist in 1982, says he has fond memories of the trips he made with the Indian team.

“It has been likewise for Pakistan’s cricketers, fans and journalists who have always been warmly welcomed by Indians whenever they have visited in the past, especially during the last Cricket World Cup that India hosted in 2011,” he recalled.

Political stadium used as political statement’
While the jingoistic display on Saturday was cheered by many Indian fans, not all of them appreciated it and distanced themselves from it on social media.

“It [the stadium] was built as a political statement. It is used like a political statement,” Gaurav Nandan Tripathi wrote in a post on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

“The audience that comes here [Ahmedabad], think they are free to do these shenanigans because they know it’s all allowed in the saffron den. Politics affects culture.”

Didn’t seem like an ICC event’
Pakistan’s head coach Mickey Arthur took notice of the hostilities and said the match “didn’t seem like an ICC event” and more a part of a bilateral series hosted by the Indian cricket board.

“I didn’t hear ‘Dil Dil Pakistan’ coming through the microphones too often tonight,” he said, referring to the Pakistani song that has become an unofficial cricket anthem for the team.

“That does play a role. But I’m not going to use that as an excuse [for the loss],” he told reporters after the match.

Prior to the match, an Indian travel website tapped into the pre-match hysteria in its tournament advertisement campaign by inviting Pakistani fans to India and offering them various discounts based on their team’s (predicted) loss margins.

The campaign was largely slammed in India, but some Indian cricket fans said they wanted “Pakistani fans to come to India” as they enjoyed “watching them lose matches to India”.

Pakistan’s tournament campaign returns to south India, where they will play their remaining six matches of the group stage.

Their next match is against Australia in Bengaluru, where sports writer Lal expects a “sporting crowd” to welcome them.

“I hope and pray what we saw in Ahmedabad will not happen again, and I am quite sure it won’t as the crowds in Bengaluru understand and respect sport and sportspersons of all countries.”

Indians slam ‘unapologetic Islamophobia’ aimed at Pakistan’s cricket team

Pakistani cricketers were the target of a hostile crowd during a World Cup match against India at Ahmedabad.

www.aljazeera.com

Refreshing to see Indians actually calling out the fact that Pak vs India was a political stunt match and confirming what most have been saying.

No doubt the RSS sympathisers will not only ignore this article but set the RSS government on said Indians for being unpatriotic.

No one will remember this match for the cricket but will remember the match for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Devadwal]

Would love to know the reason why were they booing Pakistani players? For being muslims or Pakistani muslims?

For calling indian as dusman mulk - PCB CHIEF( after few day enjoying Dinner with indian offical)
For mocking hindu religion - Waqar Younis .

These are not just normal people's compared to indian fans .

Why didn't afghanistan team target by indian fans as they are also Muslim??

 

[Itachi]

So the only way Indians will become better hosts is if the world gangs up on them? there is no shame internally, is what you are saying? lol

Who is being a graceless winner now like Irfan Pathan likes to say all the time?

Who cares about India better or worse host?

My point was, if you feel something is wrong then present your objection in the appropriate forum through proper channel.

There's already a system in place for all the allegations above. Use it.


But seems like PCB and it's fan are in the sphere of self victim and deflecting the pain from the defeat by taking solace through this course of action.

Let me ask this.

Has an official complaint been lodged?

 

[Mesozoic]

No one will remember this match for the cricket but will remember the match for all the wrong reasons.

More like that's what you want people to remember this match for.

But in reality, it will be remembered for the epic humiliation that the Pakistani cricket team suffered after being 150/2 and ofcourse the epic meltdown by it's emotional supporters who gave more excuses inside 24 hours of defeat than the runs scored by their 11 batters.

 

[Technics 1210]

As expected, RSS friends ignoring some home truths.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Refreshing to see Indians actually calling out the fact that Pak vs India was a political stunt match and confirming what most have been saying.

No doubt the RSS sympathisers will not only ignore this article but set the RSS government on said Indians for being unpatriotic.

No one will remember this match for the cricket but will remember the match for all the wrong reasons.

You need to understand the context. India is going to state polls in 4 states in November including Telangana, Gujarat, Rajasthan etc. While the national elections too are set in 6 months from now.

BJP is trying to milk the sitution using the world cup and scheduling important matches in Ahmedabad pandering for its vote base. Similarly all the apologies are coming from Tamil Nadu which is ruled by a Dravidian Party which is rationalist and strongly anti-brahmin. In fact Udhayanidhi Stalin who himself tweeted about teh crowd in Ahmedabad match was seen last month making speech wanting to eradicate Sanatan Dharma from India. He is pandering to his vote base. So its not surprising that his folowers started the twitter trend of #Sorry_Pakistan. Both sides of our political spectrum are using this to woo the voter base.

As for no one will remember this match. 36 for 8 wickets collapse will forever be etched in every pakistani fan's mind just like another 36 is forever etched in every Indian fan's mind. But for us the results that followed made that 36 much sweeter memory. Pakistani fans should hope better results follow than crying over trivial matters.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Maybe I missed a whole section of the discussion on this thread. Is the thread titled "Pakistan lost the match because our favourite song was not played?"

I will tell you what, more worrying is the attitude of some do mental gymnastics to avoid condemning the actual topic of this thread.

I only replied because you mentioned Mickey in your post bro. I didn't bring Mickey into the conversation.

 

[Technics 1210]

You need to understand the context. India is going to state polls in 4 states in November including Telangana, Gujarat, Rajasthan etc. While the national elections too are set in 6 months from now.

BJP is trying to milk the sitution using the world cup and scheduling important matches in Ahmedabad pandering for its vote base. Similarly all the apologies are coming from Tamil Nadu which is ruled by a Dravidian Party which is rationalist and strongly anti-brahmin. In fact Udhayanidhi Stalin who himself tweeted about teh crowd in Ahmedabad match was seen last month making speech wanting to eradicate Sanatan Dharma from India. He is pandering to his vote base. So its not surprising that his folowers started the twitter trend of #Sorry_Pakistan. Both sides of our political spectrum are using this to woo the voter base.

As for no one will remember this match. 36 for 8 wickets collapse will forever be etched in every pakistani fan's mind just like another 36 is forever etched in every Indian fan's mind. But for us the results that followed made that 36 much sweeter memory. Pakistani fans should hope better results follow than crying over trivial matters.

No, read what I said, this match will be remembered for the wrong reasons.

You can call the the blatant racism and political staging trivial, but the fact you are dissing your own countrymen in favour of RSS zealots, is far from trivial and quite revealing.

 

[Hawkeye]

Guys not a big deal.

Our players, fans and even pundits are ultra religious and do public acts of such in front of everyone. Waqar even said how happy he was seeing RIZWAN pray in front of a particular religion’s players.

Our grounds play and chant all sorts of religious slogans, like Pakistan ka matlab kia, naara e Etc.

Booing - hostile crowd
Crowd chanting Jai Shri stuff - just imitating our own Pak crowds/pundits.

Don’t make a big deal out of it.

The only way to reply to all of this is through your bat and performance.

Remember: the crowd went pin drop silent whenever a boundary was scored.

Till 150 total they were scared

Only then they got the courage again when Pak collapsed due to sheer lack of talent in the team.

 

[kron]

India was never a homogenous society. It is like baskin robbins where you get all flavours. People in the North were more affected due to Partition while in South it was largely unaffected. Hence teh hindu-muslim divide is very glaring. Also in South people irrespective of religion speak the local language except Hyderabad where the muslims speak Urdu. In kerala people of all religions celebrate Onam. We take pride in our language and culture. Hence you find strong opposition when Hindi is imposed or jallikattu is banned. BJP is not popular in South because in all states other than Karnataka regional parties are very strong.

Pakistan will find support in all matches it will play except those against India. Bengaluru and Chennai crowds to wholeheartedly appreciate Pakistan if it plays well but will not cheer for Pakistan if it played India in those venues. If its a close match that Pakistan wins they will give a standing ovation after the match like in 1999 test match. But during teh match opposition 4s and 6s will be welcomed with deafening silence. As Salman Butt said thats the uniqueness of Indian crowd. They will not cheer for any other team except India. For good or bad thats how Indian fans are.

Lol I don't really see what's the issue here. Infact I prefer to see hostile crowds. It adds a new dimension to the game.

 

[kron]

Israeli levels of propaganda.

Blaming Pakistan like Israel does with Palestinians, while slowly taking over the land.

Don't have a problem with booing whatsoever. Insults too is fine but I do have an issue if they make religious chants and spew racial slurs at Pakistani players during the game. That should definitely be punished.

 

[Hitman]

More like that's what you want people to remember this match for.

But in reality, it will be remembered for the epic humiliation that the Pakistani cricket team suffered after being 150/2 and ofcourse the epic meltdown by it's emotional supporters who gave more excuses inside 24 hours of defeat than the runs scored by their 11 batters.

Don't think there's anything for me as an Indian fan to remember about this match. Just another usual Pakistani defeat against us in ODI World Cups.

 

[viking2559]

Just to refresh memories, this how some Pakistani fans behaved after India's defeat in Champions Trophy, 2017 -

Champions Trophy 2017: Mohammed Shami loses cool over ‘Baap Kaun Hai’ taunts

May I remind you who started baap beta quote??
It was your sehwag who started it and Pakistan team finished it.
Allahu Akbar we will finish this thing soon as well.

 

[viking2559]

Would love to know the reason why were they booing Pakistani players? For being muslims or Pakistani muslims?

Obviously for being muslims. Hatred for muslims can be seen in everything by most of Indian Hindus especially in northern states.

 

[Hitman]

May I remind you who started baap beta quote??
It was your sehwag who started it and Pakistan team finished it.
Allahu Akbar we will finish this thing soon as well.

Good luck! I'd love to see both the teams lock horns again in this WC.

 

[Mesozoic]

Don't think there's anything for me as an Indian fan to remember about this match. Just another usual Pakistani defeat against us in ODI World Cups.

Yeah just another run of the mill thrashing but made even more sweeter thanks to the meltdown post the game. Hilarious to see people blame RSS ideology for Pakistan losing 8 wickets for 36 runs.

 

[Mesozoic]

May I remind you who started baap beta quote??
It was your sehwag who started it and Pakistan team finished it.
Allahu Akbar we will finish this thing soon as well.

And in the same vein , can't we say this whole religious one-upmanship was started by your side (Waqar saying Hinduon ke beech mein Namaz, Islam ki jeet) and was returned with interest by the Ahemdabadi crowd?


Anyways.. I'm more interested to see when Pakistan will get that opportunity to "finish this thing".

 

[Stewie]

Who cares about India better or worse host?

My point was, if you feel something is wrong then present your objection in the appropriate forum through proper channel.

There's already a system in place for all the allegations above. Use it.


But seems like PCB and it's fan are in the sphere of self victim and deflecting the pain from the defeat by taking solace through this course of action.

Let me ask this.

Has an official complaint been lodged?

You can’t file “official complaints” against fans. You can’t file official complaints for poor hospitality, poor upbringing, etc.

These are not crimes. They just show poor character that’s all. I can’t sue you for raising a disrespectful child that likes to use curse words. There are no laws and regulations around it.
Hope that makes sense.

 

[kumjsr]

You can’t file “official complaints” against fans. You can’t file official complaints for poor hospitality, poor upbringing, etc.

These are not crimes. They just show poor character that’s all. I can’t sue you for raising a disrespectful child that likes to use curse words. There are no laws and regulations around it.
Hope that makes sense.

You can file official complaints against fans. You can file official complaints against missing facilities.

 

[Stewie]

You can file official complaints against fans. You can file official complaints against missing facilities.

I don’t recall us filing complaints when bottles and stuff were thrown onto the field during the Asian test championship around 99 or so when the stadium was evacuated. There were quite a few instances during that tour with fires being lit in the stands as well.

Look you guys can clearly hear the boos and the chants. Whether someone files a complaint or not, such behavior is to be condemned. You guys cannot pivot to complaints not being filed as a defense mechanism for something like this. What happens on the field is a different matter but this was off the field. It doesn’t truly paint the Ahmedabad crowd in a good light as hosts. That’s all.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The whole point of this is to condemn such sort of stuff and disrespect towards any players. Providing 5-10 year old videos and news won't make this incident the right thing to do. We should condemn any such incident rather than providing old videos to prove our point that it happened a few years ago and it is the right thing that happened in that match as well.

 

[Hitman]

The whole point of this is to condemn such sort of stuff and disrespect towards any players. Providing 5-10 year old videos and news won't make this incident the right thing to do. We should condemn any such incident rather than providing old videos to prove our point that it happened a few years ago and it is the right thing that happened in that match as well.

What exactly did happen? Were Pak players physically assaulted? Were bottles or other objects thrown at them? Were they racially abused?

All that happened is Babar was booed at the toss, and fans chanted 'Jai Shree Ram' at Rizwan. Is that what one would describe as hostility?

 

[BouncerGuy]

What exactly did happen? Were Pak players physically assaulted? Were bottles or other objects thrown at them? Were they racially abused?

All that happened is Babar was booed at the toss, and fans chanted 'Jai Shree Ram' at Rizwan. Is that what one would describe as hostility?

I don't have a problem with the crowd booing the players or whatever. If people don't like this stuff then they should just condemn it and those who think that this stuff is fair then they should not bring 10 year old videos here to prove their point. That is what i think.

 

[Hitman]

I don't have a problem with the crowd booing the players or whatever. If people don't like this stuff then they should just condemn it and those who think that this stuff is fair then they should not bring 10 year old videos here to prove their point. That is what i think.

The way some insecure people (not you) are reacting because of their inability to take the loss, as if Pak players have been manhandled by the crowd.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The way some insecure people (not you) are reacting because of their inability to take the loss, as if Pak players have been manhandled by the crowd.

That loss was an eye-opener for team Pakistan that we are still far behind to be called the best team of the tournament or favorites. Pakistan lost badly and that is the reality. No need to make an issue out of it.

 

[Devadwal]

I don't have a problem with the crowd booing the players or whatever. If people don't like this stuff then they should just condemn it and those who think that this stuff is fair then they should not bring 10 year old videos here to prove their point. That is what i think.

Point is that Pakistan started this mess but when they are testing own medicine they are crying .

 

[Sidilicious]

Point is that Pakistan started this mess but when they are testing own medicine they are crying .

Why do we need to compare ourselves to Pakistan? If we are hoping to be a world leading economy and politically influential player on the global stage, we need to be more mature.

Most decent people will agree that the crowd behaviour was not appropriate and sporting.

However, those who are suggesting that the game will not be remembered for cricket, but for the crowd behaviour - grow up and stop being a coward. The fact is people will talk about Bumrah‘s bowling and the Pakistani collapse from this match, including the timid attitude of Babar and Rizwan. This could be the Misbah moment for Babar/Rizwan.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Point is that Pakistan started this mess but when they are testing own medicine they are crying .

Again, I will say that people are bringing up some old thing that happened in the 90s or 2000s and are trying to justify what happened today. What is wrong is wrong every day. Instead of justifying it with old stuff, they should condemn it because it is wrong.

 

[Devadwal]

Again, I will say that people are bringing up some old thing that happened in the 90s or 2000s and are trying to justify what happened today. What is wrong is wrong every day. Instead of justifying it with old stuff, they should condemn it because it is wrong.

What was waqar said about Hindu is not a 90 thing bro. Ok let's forget all things for a minutes what your opinion about rizwan offered Namaz in the stadium( when match is ongoing ) ?? Give me honest answer