Disrespectful boos heard in Ahmedabad for Babar Azam during the toss for India vs Pakistan ICC World Cup group stage match, 2023

[Technics 1210]

I was wondering what kind of cope you'd come up with after the inevitable humiliation but you have managed to outdo yourselves.

Well done brother Technics, well done!!

So no answer to why no tickets were offered to Pakistan fans for this match, but have been for other matches?

I'd say BCCI/RSS came out trumps with the coping mechanism.

 

[Major]

This isn't pakistan where you can stop anyone from shouting their religious slogans.

The sheer audacity of a few pakistanis to think Jai Shree Ram should not be shouted in an Indian stadium, amuses me.

you are right, this isnt pakistan where someone can chant religious slogans to intimidate another person. Thank God.

only such pathetic things can happen in one country where we saw it today.

Funny how earlier in the thread Indian posters said that if no religious statement was made the booing was ok, but now video has been shown, they have taken another u turn.

 

[Rajdeep]

Also, people are acting as if this is the first time crowd behaved poorly. During 2019 WC game between India and Pakistan in Manchester, Pak fans were mocking Abhinandan and showing posters 'Tea is fantastic'. Same way, Indian fans were wearing Modi facemask and chanting Jai Shri Ram. If I am not wrong, there was also aeroplane with 'Free Kashmir' banner flying over the stadium. So crowd going bit overboard in a game like this is not happening first time and won't be last. Pakistan got outclassed in cricket and that should be the main discussion point.

 

[Major]

Did not know Abhinandan was religious figure in India.

 

[Sir Alex]

Jai Shri Ram: The Hindu chant that became a murder cry

A popular god has been invoked in attacks on Indian Muslims, deepening fears of religious polarisation.

www.bbc.com

Jai Shri Ram: The Hindu chant that became a murder cry​

BBC heading.

BBC being Hinduphobic - no surprises.

 

[Mesozoic]

So no answer to why no tickets were offered to Pakistan fans for this match, but have been for other matches?

I'd say BCCI/RSS came out trumps with the coping mechanism.

What do you mean no tickets were offered to Pakistani fans? I spotted a few pak fans in the stadium today. Ofcourse , it'd be unwise to expect 10000 Pakistanis getting a visa and traveling to India. You're implying there were hundreds of pak fans in the earlier games but somehow were restricted for this one specifically.

And I don't think "BCCI/RSS" needs a coping mechanism.. atleast not today.

 

[Rajdeep]

Did not know Abhinandan was religious figure in India.

How does few people in the crowd of 130k chanting Jai Shri Ram matters? Champion teams normally don't focus on these things and looks to improve their performance in the middle of a world cup. Only fans who knows their team can't compete in the cricket field looks for excuse like this.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Also, people are acting as if this is the first time crowd behaved poorly. During 2019 WC game between India and Pakistan in Manchester, Pak fans were mocking Abhinandan and showing posters 'Tea is fantastic'. Same way, Indian fans were wearing Modi facemask and chanting Jai Shri Ram. If I am not wrong, there was also aeroplane with 'Free Kashmir' banner flying over the stadium. So crowd going bit overboard in a game like this is not happening first time and won't be last. Pakistan got outclassed in cricket and that should be the main discussion point.

PSL breaks had Tapal tea Ads on giant screen with a photo of Abhinandan and tea is fantastic comments.

That's the level of PCB.

The same people here will defend Rizwan performing namaz.

Its the basic belief that just like Pakistan where other religions are suppressed they can do it elsewhere too.

 

[Mesozoic]

Funny how earlier in the thread Indian posters said that if no religious statement was made the booing was ok

Was there abuse involving the religion of Pakistani players playing today's game ?

I know you're still reeling from the defeat, but atleast try making some sense..

 

[Major]

To defend their countrymen's religious intimidation chants of jai shri ram, they will bring in Abhinandan as if he was some religious figure.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How does few people in the crowd of 130k chanting Jai Shri Ram matters? Champion teams normally don't focus on these things and looks to improve their performance in the middle of a world cup. Only fans who knows their team can't compete in the cricket field looks for excuse like this.

Or people who cannot tolerate another religion.

 

[Technics 1210]

What do you mean no tickets were offered to Pakistani fans? I spotted a few pak fans in the stadium today. Ofcourse , it'd be unwise to expect 10000 Pakistanis getting a visa and traveling to India. You're implying there were hundreds of pak fans in the earlier games but somehow were restricted for this one specifically.

And I don't think "BCCI/RSS" needs a coping mechanism.. atleast not today.

I am not implying, it's blatenly obvious. No visas no tickets dor the WC marquee match which fans like you claim is a dead rivalry.

There is no point in denying this, its an open secret.

Please do share any pics of Pakistan fans in this match if you can. Preferably ones which are not photoshopped.

 

[Major]

Or people who cannot tolerate another religion.

or people who need to use hindu chants to intimidate people of other religions. You lot have use this tactic with your very own people, so not surprised when you try to do it on Pakistanis.

Thank God, Rizwan was safe in that tunnel and looked at those crazy religious high indian fans as some hyenas ready to target another muslim man.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Like my dad said. They won they can cheer whatever they want. How about we don't play like a bunch of cowards next time then?

Your dad sounds like a really mature fellow who’s seen it all.

 

[Mesozoic]

I am not implying, it's blatenly obvious. No visas no tickets dor the WC marquee match which fans like you claim is a dead rivalry.

There is no point in denying this, its an open secret.

Please do share any pics of Pakistan fans in this match if you can. Preferably ones which are not photoshopped.

Exactly..so stop implying that Pak fans were restricted from attending only this game as if they were present in droves in the previous encounters. No nation is compelled to issue visas to anyone.

 

[Technics 1210]

Exactly..so stop implying that Pak fans were restricted from attending only this game as if they were present in droves in the previous encounters. No nation is compelled to issue visas to anyone.

What do you mean exactly? Which part of I am not implying, it is a fact did you miss?

But the fact you now woefully try to justify the bigotry of the BCCI by saying no nation is compelled to issue visas proves I am spot on. Funny though how Pakistan fans have been granted visas for other matches.

You cannot back your claim up, show me pictures of Pakistan fans in today's crowd. I am sure you will watch the highlights today, so no excuses.

And yes, you are correct, today was not an ICC match, it was a RSS political rally with some cricket as entertainment.

 

[Bhaijaan]

@MenInG

Why is it that only Rizwan got to hear the Jai Sri Ram chants and not the rest of the players? If this is Bharatiyas being regularly racist then why not all the 11 players get the same treatment?

I don’t even have to tell you the answer. There are seasoned respectable Pakistani posters like @Mamoon who can give you the answer for this question.

Rizwan mixes religion with politics so gets this reaction. I personally wouldn’t do it but there are people out there who would and I can see why.


You can say all you like about you not welcoming any excuses or justifications today from Bharatiya fans about this but this will not end the matter here. You have to also dig deep and do some soul searching.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Like my dad said. They won they can cheer whatever they want. How about we don't play like a bunch of cowards next time then?

Mature statement. Respect!

 

[Mesozoic]

So where does the buck stop actually?

May be after losing yet another World cup encounter in 2027, brother Major will come up with a gem like "Indians shouldn't chant Bharat Mata ki Jay because it serves in boosting the morale of the Indian team which has an indirect effect on the Pakistani team's morale as well ".

Or maybe in 2031, it'll be "Indians shouldn't sing vande mataram because it involves a religious figure and is automatically offensive to us Pakistanis".


Where do you draw the line?

 

[JaDed]

If anything it should be a great experience for the Pak players, Hyderabad, Chennai is not what they can expect always.

Kolkata was always a tough ground for PCT as well hostile crowd, didn’t bother them much.

Boos and chants should be part of the game. This will separate the Men from the boys.

Aus crowd has always been this bad, listen to Dravid’s interviews.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Pakistani fans have really given away all their trigger points today. Like you should have made it slightly difficult for our fans to get under your skin. This is a long World Cup and the team could probably have so much more to endure. It’s just that I don’t think our fans are as mean or unforgiving as you might think. After this match, they will let it go in the neutral matches where Pakistan will probably get cheered and there’s absolutely no problem with it as long as it’s not Bharatiyas indulging in Pakistan sloganeering

 

[Mesozoic]

But the fact you now woefully try to justify the bigotry of the BCCI by saying no nation is compelled to issue visas proves I am spot on. Funny though how Pakistan fans have been granted visas for other matches

Lol @ "Visas for other matches".

Read that statement twice...no maybe thrice and then understand why your entire shtick is set up to only end up in tears.

 

[Technics 1210]

Lol @ "Visas for other matches".

Read that statement twice...no maybe thrice and then understand why your entire shtick is set up to only end up in tears.

Nope I asked for pictures backing your claim.

It's ok to admit if you were lying, apologise, and move on.

 

[Mesozoic]

Nope I asked for pictures backing your claim.

It's ok to admit if you were lying, apologise, and move on.

I'm not as desperate to sit through and find the screenshots with Pakistani fans. If you think I'm lying...I'm not going to stop you.

 

[Technics 1210]

I'm not as desperate to sit through and find the screenshots with Pakistani fans. If you think I'm lying...I'm not going to stop you.

So you can't back your claim, and have been caught lying.

That was easy.

 

[Major]

Please control your language.

I hope Pak passion mods take note of the last statement which is clearly not in the spirit of good argument.

dont worry im not like those hindu fans in the stadium that my language needs to be controlled.

 

[Mesozoic]

So you can't back your claim, and have been caught lying.

That was easy.

Congratulations.

Hope that gave you the much needed soothing relief..

 

[Bhaijaan]

dont worry im not like those hindu fans in the stadium that my language needs to be controlled.

You are generalizing hindus through your words. Watch yourself. You’re a nobody to talk about Hinduism.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

did anyone here defend naar e takbeer?
here let me say, i will assume what you said its truth. that was wrong for the people to say that to hindu/sikh/christian fans.

Now do you have the guts to condemn what your fans did in modi stadium today?

Defend it ? Do you even realise how in the space of a few posts , you went and liked Captain Rishwat's post supporting the usage of "Naar e Takbeer". You positively support the usage of a religious chant to unify your supporters.

Did you ever think there might those of other religions may not appreciate such religious symbolism in a cricket match?


Then why is it wrong for Indian Hindu fans to use a religious chant to unify themselves ?

Why is one considered threatening while the other is not ?

 

[cricketjoshila]

or people who need to use hindu chants to intimidate people of other religions. You lot have use this tactic with your very own people, so not surprised when you try to do it on Pakistanis.

Thank God, Rizwan was safe in that tunnel and looked at those crazy religious high indian fans as some hyenas ready to target another

Are people trying to intimidate others when they shout Nara e Takbeer?

 

[ex-q-zit]

dont worry im not like those hindu fans in the stadium that my language needs to be controlled.

So a proud muslim like you can use the word "Rape" carelessly and even back it.

 

[nuttyprof]

For all the Indians that claim Indians progressing as a nation, your are wrong, and today proved it. India is regressing, and their excuses is always whataboutism, as I said, they are not free until they think for themselves.

Thank you for your certificate. India was waiting for your judgement. Dear sir, please enlighten us on how you read about mind and figured out we did not think for ourselves and please teach a nation of 1.4 bn to think for themselves.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Defend it ? Do you even realise how in the space of a few posts , you went and liked Captain Rishwat's post supporting the usage of "Naar e Takbeer". You positively support the usage of a religious chant to unify your supporters.

Did you ever think there might those of other religions may not appreciate such religious symbolism in a cricket match?


Then why is it wrong for Indian Hindu fans to use a religious chant to unify themselves ?

Why is one considered threatening while the other is not ?

The same reason why Hagia Sofia becoming a mosque again is celebrated as Turkey returning to its Islamic roots but construction of Ram Mandir by public subscription is bigotry.

 

[Major]

Defend it ? Do you even realise how in the space of a few posts , you went and liked Captain Rishwat's post supporting the usage of "Naar e Takbeer". You positively support the usage of a religious chant to unify your supporters.

Did you ever think there might those of other religions may not appreciate such religious symbolism in a cricket match?


Then why is it wrong for Indian Hindu fans to use a religious chant to unify themselves ?

Why is one considered threatening while the other is not ?

have you not bothered to read in one of the post that if such a statement was used against cricketers of other religion i condemn it.

now can u condemn the jai shri ram intimidation towards rizwan?

i know the answer.

 

[Mesozoic]

Why is one considered threatening while the other is not ?

Because the "other" happened in a game where their team got rinsed and left them with no excuses like rain, umpires, BCCICC etc etc.

 

[Major]

The same reason why Hagia Sofia becoming a mosque again is celebrated as Turkey returning to its Islamic roots but construction of Ram Mandir by public subscription is bigotry.

BJP fans. nice

 

[Technics 1210]

Congratulations.

Hope that gave you the much needed soothing relief..

Not as relieved as BCCI/GoI who denied Pakistan fans visa/tickets just to win in the RSS heartland. Though you have proved beyond doubt that RSS silos just lie and run away when asked for evidence.

You can have the last word, until you provide proof of your claims that is.

Enjoy the highlights!

 

[Nikhil_cric]

have you not bothered to read in one of the post that if such a statement was used against cricketers of other religion i condemn it.

now can u condemn the jai shri ram intimidation towards rizwan?

i know the answer.

You supported the chant and liked his post and now you're saying you dont defend it . And the poster himself said Pakistani fans use that chant and it confirmed exactly what @Mesozoic said.

It doesn't matter what YOU think. Some of your fans use that chant and some of the Indian fans use theirs.

I will condemn it. But so what? You said they intimidated Rizwan. Every other Islamic chant would intimidate another religious group as well.

There were plenty of folks chanting similar things during CT '17 final. Where was your condemnation then?

Or did you even notice?

Because the "other" happened in a game where their team got rinsed and left them with no excuses like rain, umpires, BCCICC etc etc.

Basically excuses .

 

[Major]

You supported the chant and liked his post and now you're saying you dont defend it . And the poster himself said Pakistani fans use that chant and it confirmed exactly what @Mesozoic said.

It doesn't matter what YOU think. Some of your fans use that chant and some of the Indian fans use theirs.

I will condemn it. But so what? You said they intimidated Rizwan. Every other Islamic chant would intimidate another religious group as well.

There were plenty of folks chanting similar things during CT '17 final. Where was your condemnation then?

Or did you even notice?

Basically excuses .

where did i say i supported the chant? So liking a post means i support the chant?

I have written that if such a chant was made i condemn it, now can you condem the jai sri ram chant?
No you cannot

 

[Nikhil_cric]

where did i say i supported the chant? So liking a post means i support the chant?

I have written that if such a chant was made i condemn it, now can you condem the jai sri ram chant?
No you cannot

I condemn it. Religious chants have no place on the sports field. They should only be subjected ruthless trolling and sledging and mentally disintegrated without using religion as a weapon.

 

[Rajdeep]

Like my dad said. They won they can cheer whatever they want. How about we don't play like a bunch of cowards next time then?

Exactly this. When we lost in Dubai 2021 and Waqar said about biggest achievement was Rizwan offering Namaz infront of hindus, I didnt mind. We lost that game and that was the big news for me. I was mad at my team for meek surrender and not the noise from outside. And that was an international cricketer saying where as here we are talking about some random people in the stadium.

 

[ex-q-zit]

Exactly this. When we lost in Dubai 2021 and Waqar said about biggest achievement was Rizwan offering Namaz infront of hindus, I didnt mind. We lost that game and that was the big news for me. I was mad at my team for meek surrender and not the noise from outside. And that was an international cricketer saying where as here we are talking about some random people in the stadium.

Some of them are not able to swallow the bitter loss so coming up with all sort of controversies. Its amusing to see them jumping in frustration.

 

[AAli98]

Pak should have saved there dignity & not gone to India.

 

[Mesozoic]

Not as relieved as BCCI/GoI who denied Pakistan fans visa/tickets just to win in the RSS heartland. Though you have proved beyond doubt that RSS silos just lie and run away when asked for evidence.

You can have the last word, until you provide proof of your claims that is.

Enjoy the highlights!

It's okay, brother Technics!!

It's only a game at the end of the day. Don't take it to heart.

Cheerios!!

 

[Srinath_cricket]

I don't mind booing / trolling as long as one stays respectful of the opponent. It should strictly stay within the limits of dignity and not target someone's culture/identity. It shouldn't make one feel threatened for their safety.

Looking at some videos from the ground, I don't think they fall under/within the limits that I've stated above. It's bad, it gives a very wrong picture. I do not endorse any of the chants that the crowd did today. That's not booing/trolling, it's more like heckling. I did not like it one bit.

You can boo and still be respectful. It's not that hard!!

Having said that, Waqar's below the belt comment on Rizwan offering prayers during '21 t20 World Cup and a Pak minister always claiming it as a victory of Islam over Hinduism didn't go down too well with many, including me.

This sort of threw Rizwan under the bus when in reality he (may or) may not have even offered prayers that day to offend anyone. It made things look nearly as if Rizwan was part of this whole setup too.

Many ex pak cricketers also have a habit of throwing vile statements regarding Hindus and Indians. Sohail Tanvir, Waqar, Afridi are great examples. These people are far from being saints.

 

[FPresidential]

Religious chanting, “ jai shri ram” the Hindu chant become a murder cry in Ahmedabad happened during the game not after.

Can’t figure out how Pak winning a game would’ve made any less of racist and bigoted.

That explanation not just by bharat but some Pakistanis is probably doing the senseless defense here.

 

[Rajdeep]

Fans were hell bent on calling this an El Classico before the game but then not willing to take heat from the crowd. I am sure most have not seen a real Barca-RM El Classico game and how crowds behave there. As I said, fans did absolutely nothing wrong...this is how you react towards your arch rivals. If anything, I hate those goody goody politically correct stuff these days which mellow down this rivalry. If one makes an analogy with WWE, what we witnessed in Hyderabad was PG stuff but today Ahmedabad crowd gave them proper Attitude Era memories. Loved it.

 

[Rajdeep]

Religious chanting, “ jai shri ram” the Hindu chant become a murder cry in Ahmedabad happened during the game not after.

Can’t figure out how Pak winning a game would’ve made any less of racist and bigoted.

That explanation not just by bharat but some Pakistanis is probably doing the senseless defense here.

Disgusting post. If Jai Shri Ram is a murder cry, I know a certain chant that is synonymous with global Islamic terrorism. But that doesn't stop players of a certain team to say it on field in every sentence. Pls keep this religious stuff for Time Pass section and leave this for cricket. Your team has been humiliated today and outplayed completely in the world cup for 8th time. That should be the talk of the town and not what some no name fans chanted/booed in the stadium.

 

[FPresidential]

Disgusting post. If Jai Shri Ram is a murder cry, I know a certain chant that is synonymous with global Islamic terrorism. But that doesn't stop players of a certain team to say it on field in every sentence. Pls keep this religious stuff for Time Pass section and leave this for cricket. Your team has been humiliated today and outplayed completely in the world cup for 8th time. That should be the talk of the town and not what some no name fans chanted/booed in the stadium.

No! Video has been posted, it is a recorded evidence that can’t be disputed.

The fact it has become synonymous to murder chant, many video evidence exist, has been made a bigoted chant when yelled out by hindutva bigot while beating murdering minorities or when player waking back to pavilion.

When it’s not used by Hindutva bigots then it is only a religious term and no one should get offended because it isn’t said to neither offend nor for Hindu supremacy.

I’m able to separate bigots from peace loving Hindus of Bhararat.

 

[Rajdeep]

No! Video has been posted, it is a recorded evidence that can’t be disputed.

The fact it has become synonymous to murder chant, many video evidence exist, has been made a bigoted chant when yelled out by hindutva bigot while beating murdering minorities or when player waking back to pavilion.

When it’s not used by Hindutva bigots then it is only a religious term and no one should get offended because it isn’t said to neither offend nor for Hindu supremacy.

I’m able to separate bigots from peace loving Hindus of Bhararat.

Video has been posted of what? That few people chanting Jai Shri Ram. So what?

How do you know those guys are hindutva bigots (whatever that means).

When Rizwan can show his religion on ground, Waqar can say offering Namaz infront of hindus was proud moment, Ahmed Sehzad can ask Dilshan to convert to Islam in middle of cricket ground....why can't fans chant Jai Shri Rama? I am still not able to understand where the issue is.

Jai Shri Ram is not a murder cry...entire world knows which chant is synonymous to murder cry is....but lets not go there.

 

[FPresidential]

Video has been posted of what? That few people chanting Jai Shri Ram. So what?

How do you know those guys are hindutva bigots (whatever that means).

When Rizwan can show his religion on ground, Waqar can say offering Namaz infront of hindus was proud moment, Ahmed Sehzad can ask Dilshan to convert to Islam in middle of cricket ground....why can't fans chant Jai Shri Rama? I am still not able to understand where the issue is.

Jai Shri Ram is not a murder cry...entire world knows which chant is synonymous to murder cry is....but lets not go there.

I hope moderators delete some absolute tripe religious posts from this cricket section. Your cricket team is a great ambassador of your country with some terrific players but some of their fans are very bad losers.

Lol Waqar or whoever was rightly criticized.

Rizwan prayed to himself not on a loud speaker in the ground.

Yea! Those Hindutva murdering and beating minorities were singing jingle bells.

 

[FPresidential]

Video has been posted of what? That few people chanting Jai Shri Ram. So what?

How do you know those guys are hindutva bigots (whatever that means).

When Rizwan can show his religion on ground, Waqar can say offering Namaz infront of hindus was proud moment, Ahmed Sehzad can ask Dilshan to convert to Islam in middle of cricket ground....why can't fans chant Jai Shri Rama? I am still not able to understand where the issue is.

Jai Shri Ram is not a murder cry...entire world knows which chant is synonymous to murder cry is....but lets not go there.

I hope moderators delete some absolute tripe religious posts from this cricket section. Your cricket team is a great ambassador of your country with some terrific players but some of their fans are very bad losers.

And yea many Muslim extremists have used religious slogan to kill innocents and should be condemned.

See how it easy it was to not support and defend extremist bigots.

 

[Rana]

Fans were hell bent on calling this an El Classico before the game but then not willing to take heat from the crowd. I am sure most have not seen a real Barca-RM El Classico game and how crowds behave there. As I said, fans did absolutely nothing wrong...this is how you react towards your arch rivals. If anything, I hate those goody goody politically correct stuff these days which mellow down this rivalry. If one makes an analogy with WWE, what we witnessed in Hyderabad was PG stuff but today Ahmedabad crowd gave them proper Attitude Era memories. Loved it.

Ahmedabad was the ECW fans when WWE guys competed for one night

 

[Rajdeep]

Lol Waqar or whoever was rightly criticized.

Rizwan prayed to himself not on a loud speaker in the ground.

Yea! Those Hindutva murdering and beating minorities were singing jingle bells.

Yes Yes....prayers in Loud speakers has been done before and is a concept alien to subcontinent.

#SonuNigam

Matlab kuch bhi

Don't mind me saying but people like you make this victory even more sweet than it should be. At the same time, we know all fans are not like this and there are some genuine Pak fans like @Rana who is more concerned about how to improve performance in next game.

 

[FPresidential]

Yes Yes....prayers in Loud speakers has been done before and is a concept alien to subcontinent.

#SonuNigam

Matlab kuch bhi

Don't mind me saying but people like you make this victory even more sweet than it should be. At the same time, we know all fans are not like this and there are some genuine Pak fans like @Rana who is more concerned about how to improve performance in next game.

I don’t know how to respond to that because it doesn’t address any of my pony on this thread that had been highlighted by me.

Not discussing a singer.
Not discussing the results of the game and why Pak lost.
Not discussing a poster.

Discussing how a religious chant used by Hindutva bigots to express their racism and bigotry.

So if you want to come back to the discussed comment and find a better way to defend bigots of Bharat that can convince anyone who highlighted bigotry that those in the stadiums weren’t being bigots then we can continue otherwise it’s a waste of time.

 

[Rajdeep]

I don’t know how to respond to that because it doesn’t address any of my pony on this thread that had been highlighted by me.

Not discussing a singer.
Not discussing the results of the game and why Pak lost.
Not discussing a poster.

Discussing how a religious chant used by Hindutva bigots to express their racism and bigotry.

So if you want to come back to the discussed comment and find a better way to defend bigots of Bharat that can convince anyone who highlighted bigotry that those in the stadiums weren’t being bigots then we can continue otherwise it’s a waste of time.

You had a problem why Jai Shri Ram being played in loudspeaker. Hence I said, religious prayers being played in loudspeaker is a concept not alien in sub continent. There used to be even beak for Friday prayers in Sharjah back in the 90s.

You keep on calling these people as bigots and hindutva murderers but yet to confirm how are they bigots? For taking Lord Rama's name?

They were watching a game of cricket and chanted Jai Shri Ram in a stadium based in India. How does that makes them bigot?

You do realize right India has 80% hindus and taking Lord Ram's name is not a crime?

Also, every time when you lose the argument with me (which is like 99% of the time)...you say its a waste of time. Apologies, that I wasted your time so much

 

[FPresidential]

You had a problem why Jai Shri Ram being played in loudspeaker. Hence I said, religious prayers being played in loudspeaker is a concept not alien in sub continent. There used to be even beak for Friday prayers in Sharjah back in the 90s.

You keep on calling these people as bigots and hindutva murderers but yet to confirm how are they bigots? For taking Lord Rama's name?

They were watching a game of cricket and chanted Jai Shri Ram in a stadium based in India. How does that makes them bigot?

Also, every time when you lose the argument with me (which is like 99% of the time)...you say its a waste of time. Apologies, that I wasted your time so much

umm

You are creating scenario that are unrelated to the discussion.

Please watch the video that had been posted on this thread.

I never claim I’ve a problem with any of Hindus God name being played in a loud speakers.

Have only highlighted when it used by bigots to murder and beating of Bharat’s minorities.

I’m not trying to win an argument with you, never have, only highlighted my view as I see.

So please continue with the discussion at hand not go on tangent because I do not want to continue with whatever is not the topic of this thread.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Or people who cannot tolerate another religion.

This does seem to be what happened today in Gujarat.Wasn't this the birthplace of Modi's rise to power?

 

[Firebat]

Fans were hell bent on calling this an El Classico before the game but then not willing to take heat from the crowd. I am sure most have not seen a real Barca-RM El Classico game and how crowds behave there. As I said, fans did absolutely nothing wrong...this is how you react towards your arch rivals. If anything, I hate those goody goody politically correct stuff these days which mellow down this rivalry. If one makes an analogy with WWE, what we witnessed in Hyderabad was PG stuff but today Ahmedabad crowd gave them proper Attitude Era memories. Loved it.

You're gloating about Pakistan not taking the heat from the crowd like a football match when these Indian players have literally never played a match in a completely partisan hostile atmosphere in their lives, let alone in a World Cup. Even in Timbuktu they will be cheering Sharma and Kohli.

Any fan who actually watches football knows that crowds are that way because there are home and away teams, and tickets are allocated as such - 80% of one team, 20% of the other. You create a hostile atmosphere for your arch rivals, and later on they create one for you. Give and take.

What we had today is a global tournament match with 130k fans of one arch rival and 0 of the other. Let Jay Shah summon the courage to send your boys to Pindi and then talk about El Clasico atmosphere. But we both know that ain't happening so better to park the irrelevant analogies you don't understand.

 

[Rana]

You're gloating about Pakistan not taking the heat from the crowd like a football match when these Indian players have literally never played a match in a completely partisan hostile atmosphere in their lives, let alone in a World Cup. Even in Timbuktu they will be cheering Sharma and Kohli.

Any fan who actually watches football knows that crowds are that way because there are home and away teams, and tickets are allocated as such - 80% of one team, 20% of the other. You create a hostile atmosphere for your arch rivals, and later on they create one for you. Give and take.

What we had today is a global tournament match with 130k fans of one arch rival and 0 of the other. Let Jay Shah summon the courage to send your boys to Pindi and then talk about El Clasico atmosphere. But we both know that ain't happening so better to park the irrelevant analogies you don't understand.

Karachi is the only crowed (if they bother to turn up) that can create a hostile atmosphere for India. Punjab in general are too nice to Indians

 

[GLORY OF '92]

You're gloating about Pakistan not taking the heat from the crowd like a football match when these Indian players have literally never played a match in a completely partisan hostile atmosphere in their lives, let alone in a World Cup. Even in Timbuktu they will be cheering Sharma and Kohli.

Any fan who actually watches football knows that crowds are that way because there are home and away teams, and tickets are allocated as such - 80% of one team, 20% of the other. You create a hostile atmosphere for your arch rivals, and later on they create one for you. Give and take.

What we had today is a global tournament match with 130k fans of one arch rival and 0 of the other. Let Jay Shah summon the courage to send your boys to Pindi and then talk about El Clasico atmosphere. But we both know that ain't happening so better to park the irrelevant analogies you don't understand.

Our players are kittens. Was a golden chance to show the world. Instead we were humilated. Simple.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Ahmedabad was the ECW fans when WWE guys competed for one night

This , lol. ECW One Night Stand 2006 where Rizwan was John Cena

 

[Firebat]

Our players are kittens. Was a golden chance to show the world. Instead we were humilated. Simple.

Sure, they were mental midgets and capitulated no doubt. My point is you can't keep comparing to football when Pakistan are eternally playing in front of India dominated crowds, literally 130k of them today. Then you are completely missing the nature and fairness of football fandom.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Karachi is the only crowed (if they bother to turn up) that can create a hostile atmosphere for India. Punjab in general are too nice to Indians

I would love to see this. India playing Pakistan in an absolutely hostile environment where the crowd is sledging our players left, right and centre . The only time we have got that is maybe in Australia. But this would be different and on a different scale altogether.

 

[Rana]

Guys that would get booed to oblivion if Pakistan ever does host India in a hostile crowed:

Rohit Sharma
Hardik Pandya
Shubman Gill
Ishan Kishan
Mohammad Shami
Mohammad Siraj

 

[emranabbas]

Its minor if the Indians have booed

We Should be proud pakistans qaumi tarana was played on the soil of bharaat and people who were booing few moments back couldn't do Jack all about it and had to sit and listen to it

 

[globetrotter]

Booing can’t be excuse for defeat… some Pakistani fans thanked Indian government for not issuing visas for yesterday’s match

 

[globetrotter]

Ahmedabad spectators booed for Zaka Ashraf who earlier described India as “dushman mulk”

 

[Itachi]

You're gloating about Pakistan not taking the heat from the crowd like a football match when these Indian players have literally never played a match in a completely partisan hostile atmosphere in their lives, let alone in a World Cup. Even in Timbuktu they will be cheering Sharma and Kohli.

Any fan who actually watches football knows that crowds are that way because there are home and away teams, and tickets are allocated as such - 80% of one team, 20% of the other. You create a hostile atmosphere for your arch rivals, and later on they create one for you. Give and take.

What we had today is a global tournament match with 130k fans of one arch rival and 0 of the other. Let Jay Shah summon the courage to send your boys to Pindi and then talk about El Clasico atmosphere. But we both know that ain't happening so better to park the irrelevant analogies you don't understand.

Well.... It's not other teams fault that rarely a team has confidence on Pakistan's security.

 

[Suleiman]

Well.... It's not other teams fault that rarely a team has confidence on Pakistan's security.

this narrative has run its course. It’s not 2011 or 2012 anymore. It’s been more than a decade since the 2009 attack, multiple ICC delegations and security firms hired by ICC have given Pakistan the clearance not to mention all of the top teams bar India have toured with zero issues over the last few years.

Need a new excuse.

 

[battler]

Guys that would get booed to oblivion if Pakistan ever does host India in a hostile crowed:

Rohit Sharma
Hardik Pandya
Shubman Gill
Ishan Kishan
Mohammad Shami
Mohammad Siraj

No Bumrah?

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

Storm in a teacup, to be enjoyed with popcorn.

I’ll get back when I have any other food analogy.

 

[MenInG]

Guys that would get booed to oblivion if Pakistan ever does host India in a hostile crowed:

Rohit Sharma
Hardik Pandya
Shubman Gill
Ishan Kishan
Mohammad Shami
Mohammad Siraj

Are you sure.

That is not the Pakistani way. You need to have been at some of the recent games in Pakistan.

In fact at times we are too nice.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Karachi is the only crowed (if they bother to turn up) that can create a hostile atmosphere for India. Punjab in general are too nice to Indians

We would love a hostile crowd but I doubt if Pakistan can dish one for us. Too many burger kids there now who have no idea what passion and hostility is. I think Pakistan controlled Kashmir could be such a place because the Kashmiris are extremely loud and passionate but they have started getting warm with Bharatiyas too so you never know.

 

[kumjsr]

I was at the ground and recorded this video.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Are you sure.

That is not the Pakistani way. You need to have been at some of the recent games in Pakistan.

In fact at times we are too nice.

I agree with you.

But then, you are not realising that Bharat is going through an awakening as a nation which is rare in the history of the world. The nationalistic passion is in full swing. They are extremely politically aware and hold a massive grudge against Pakistan for being distraction from growth and development in this region. So they vent all their anger at them. And again, the match happened at Agmedabad, the political hub of nationalist Bharat.

 

[Bhaijaan]

this narrative has run its course. It’s not 2011 or 2012 anymore. It’s been more than a decade since the 2009 attack, multiple ICC delegations and security firms hired by ICC have given Pakistan the clearance not to mention all of the top teams bar India have toured with zero issues over the last few years.

Need a new excuse.

Cricket in Pakisyan has been relatively safe thanks to exceptional security arrangements there now. No compromises are made and for that we would like to give kudos to you all.

If the political grudges were not there, BCCI would send Bharatiya team to Pakistan like it did thrice in mid 2000s

 

[kumjsr]

Thousands of Indians did stand up as mark of national anthem when Pakistani national anthem was being played. There is no compulsion for anyone to do so, but still they did.

On the other hand, crowd was hostile towards players.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Guys that would get booed to oblivion if Pakistan ever does host India in a hostile crowed:

Rohit Sharma
Hardik Pandya
Shubman Gill
Ishan Kishan
Mohammad Shami
Mohammad Siraj

Why would you boo your Muslim brothers? Muslims in Hyderabad took the ultimate risk of being identified as anti nationals during the World Cup for you guys and this is how you gonna pay back the favour by booing Bharatiya Muslims ?

 

[Bhaijaan]

Ahmedabad was the ECW fans when WWE guys competed for one night

If any one missed the match yesterday, and just saw this thread now, he would imagine a totally different vibe of the Ahmedabad stadium yesterday as if fans had come with weapons or something and boos filled the entirety of the match and radial abuse were hurled constantly.

In all honesty, there were a few such moments and that’s about it. Ahmedabad crowd is getting flattered the Gujaratis aren’t much into sports lol.