Indian fans have set stadiums alight, forced the Pakistan team off the field in the past, so don't go there with the high ground.
What I am saying is that home fans have the right to create a hostile atmosphere if they want, but to a certain level.
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What I am saying is that home fans have the right to create a hostile atmosphere if they want, but to a certain level.
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many indians and their chamchays around here tried to deny this happened. Alot of people heard this chant.
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Yep. Be as loud and as supportive of your team as you can be, that's what we expect, but don't stoop to crude and abusive language.
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It’s been pretty consistent on the crowd mics. Might not be the case where the channel moves straight to commercials, but on streaming platforms it has been pretty clear what they’re saying. Might not be the entire crowd, but enough to be quite loud and for everyone in the stadium to hear it.
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Not watching but I thought it's only booing? If there's some racial taunting or anything , I definitely don't support that
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And more class from Indian fans today
“Tum humare bacche ho, hum tumhare baap hai”
“Tum humare bacche ho, hum tumhare baap hai”
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I do remember the pathetic crowd behaviour in 1999 and make no excuses for that. None whatsoever
Same with the SL India semifinal match of 1996.
A bit OTT there. What you call as setting the stadium alight was burning a heap of paper posters.
But pakistani spectators haven't been great either. This good host may be a recent phenomenon because of the Lahore incident.
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I love the way when confronted with anything remotely not to their liking, Indian fans bring in everything except the fact that they are wrong.
There is no shame in accepting what happened today was wrong.
You are allowed to say that this is not representative of India but you aren't.
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Maybe the crowds can grow too, just like the Indian team has over the past 16 years and become the behemoth it is today. Nobody has to live in the distant past.
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Have some shame.
Accept that it's wrong and then make a hill of whatever mole you want.
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Nothing wrong in booing the team from a hostile neighbour and arch rivals.
This how sporting crowds behave in many events.
We have seen people being ejected for racial abuse in many stadiums.
I don't understand who complains because their team got booed.
The fans started throwing things at the Sri Lankan players.
Just like they started throwing bottles at Pakistani players in Delhi I think.
What about the horrible incidents when a match v England was abandoned.
You can defend Indian crowds as much as you want, but there have been countless episodes of crowd trouble inside Indian grounds. So don't come up with stuff about how well-behaved they are and how they are doing what's within their right.
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There is something wrong with Indian crowds
Do you see that?
Forget others - we are talking about India here.
Bro...there is nothing for me to be ashamed off as I am not the one that booed.
But cricket has become a soft sport. Little bit of booing is fine. Indian crowd behaviour has been much poor in the past.
Crowd booing is regular in all sports here in UK. MS Dhoni, Sachin Tendulkar all got booed.
It wont look good if 65 people in the stadium start booing some C grade players who are willing to tour us. Beggars can not be chosers.
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Delhi? No.
Both incidents happened in Kolkata and i was present at both the matches.
Which India England match are you talking about?
I am just telling you that pakistani crowds and this good host thing is something new as there have been plenty of incidents regarding crowd behaviour in Pakistan.
Indian fans are hostile. I don't deny it.
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I see nothing wrong if a crowd is hostile and boos.
This is normal across many sports.
There's nothing to look here.
I think you are living in denial.
All you have to do is google crowd trouble in India cricket and you will see countless episodes of trouble, it would take me or you a long time to list all of the incidents.
I'm sure you know that, so stop trying to paint this fake picture.
Boos yes, no problem, but bottles thrown, fires etc - you must be insane if you think that's alright.
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He's not insane, he's here to indulge only in propaganda on behalf of Bharat, as he has always done. There is a video of abusive chanting in this very thread, but he is choosing to ignore it because it goes against his code of propagate Shining India at every juncture.
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No one is defending bottles thrown etc.
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Nobody is making any excuses for that stuff, especially not me. But booing is very timid to be honest and fans can very well express themselves if they don't like something . That's what sport is about .
Bottles being thrown , fires being lit and racial abuse is not acceptable at all.
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Tapal tea break in PSL had a photo of Abhinandan on the giant screen.
Don't even go at what happens in Pakistan. Even the PCB indulges in cheap behaviour.
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Do you ever see me defending the PCB?
Not that this thread is about Pakistan crowds although keep trying.
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Pakistan was booed today. I just reminded you the cheap behaviour PCB indulges in during the PSL breaks. So if Indians boo the pakistani team. Its nothing.
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Perfect crowd. Loved it.
I’m fairly sure the Indian pilot tea thing was photoshopped.
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I think you meant to say, less nationalistic Indian cities
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Sorry next time we will give a rose flower and a teddy bear to every Pakistani player entering the stadium and sing songs like we love Pakistan and its players so that your snowflake players and fans can feel better
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Cultural differences. Aussies and English can take boos with a laugh. We are more emotional. If you look at it logically, as long as no Pakistani player was physically harmed, no one should have a problem. But we've all grown up on a cricket culture that makes these things seem graceless and not something to be proud of. It's just the way cricket has been. Maybe this is a sign of changing tides as cricket becomes more global in its culture.
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Hostile crowds are one thing, but even then there is a percentage of fans from each side, but today, denying entry to the opposition crowd reeks of fear for the sake of ensuring 100% of the fan represent on team send a political message.
This was a marquee match, at a stadium located in the epic centre of a certain ideology for reasons we all know.
Hooligans boo and jeer at anthems in Football, but today the Ahmedabad crowd have set the highest bar for being the most racist and disrespectful crowd across all sports in all of history.
I said it the commentary thread, I was wrong about all Indian crowds, but South Indian crowds are head and shoulders above what we witnessed today, and honestly, South Indian crowd seem like they represent a totally different country.
South India has a new fan from today.
This was a marquee match, at a stadium located in the epic centre of a certain ideology for reasons we all know.
Hooligans boo and jeer at anthems in Football, but today the Ahmedabad crowd have set the highest bar for being the most racist and disrespectful crowd across all sports in all of history.
I said it the commentary thread, I was wrong about all Indian crowds, but South Indian crowds are head and shoulders above what we witnessed today, and honestly, South Indian crowd seem like they represent a totally different country.
South India has a new fan from today.
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All Indian cricket fans I meet in person, in north America are quite knowledgeable, sporting, while still being patriotic and quick witted, nothing ever overboard.
Social Media/forums/Watsapp forwards etc. has always been a different story and maybe that's because naturally my focus goes on the most outrageous stuff.
Only card left in our pocket to shut hostile crowd up today was to to play a respectable match and we failed to do that so it's just time to move on. This was always going to be on in Gujrat unfortunately and Indians on here warned the same.
PS Samsung series 2004 crowds were very gracious to Indian players.
Social Media/forums/Watsapp forwards etc. has always been a different story and maybe that's because naturally my focus goes on the most outrageous stuff.
Only card left in our pocket to shut hostile crowd up today was to to play a respectable match and we failed to do that so it's just time to move on. This was always going to be on in Gujrat unfortunately and Indians on here warned the same.
PS Samsung series 2004 crowds were very gracious to Indian players.
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Not really sure what people expected. It was always gonna happen. 100,000 Indians at home.
Deluded if you thought they'd extend Pakistan any respect.
I'm surprised it wasn't worse - it could easily have been, especially over the course of this mauling.
Deluded if you thought they'd extend Pakistan any respect.
I'm surprised it wasn't worse - it could easily have been, especially over the course of this mauling.
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Extending respect doesn't even come into the frame when tickets were not extended to Pakistan fans.
Even iat the Mohali SF in 2012 there were patches of green in the crowd, and that was a bigger game than today's qualifier game!
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Sorry, next time I will remember the asliyat of Indian Fans and not complain.
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Oh the irony coming from this poster
.Agree with the sentiment however - expecting any respect was PPers first mistake.
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Huge difference in attitude of the crowd compared to Hyderabad. India truly seems polarized
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SKY just reporting now they found ONE Pakistani supporter in the 130K crowd. This is SKY reporting now, and Eoin Morgan is joking that he has been photoshopped.
Ahmedabad is officially the most fascist and racist crowd and venue in the history of all sports.
Ahmedabad is officially the most fascist and racist crowd and venue in the history of all sports.
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Crowd has all the right to cheer for their team but using words like" bache" and" baap "is just plain disrespect to a sovereign country
All our matches should have been allocated in the Southern States (Hyderabad, Banglore, Chennai) and West Bengal (Kolkata) where BJP or its coalition partners are NOT in government. Government should not have allowed to play in Ahmedabad
All our matches should have been allocated in the Southern States (Hyderabad, Banglore, Chennai) and West Bengal (Kolkata) where BJP or its coalition partners are NOT in government. Government should not have allowed to play in Ahmedabad
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Get your facts straight. This is not about respect, this is about denying Pakistani fans entry and the opportunity to buy tickets for the sake of sending a political message.
What was your government so scared of?
Did you boo at the Pakistani anthem too?
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I live and work with Indians. People in the South hardly care. They are more aligned towards their ethnicity (Telugu, Tamil, Kannada, Malayalam) than they are towards India. Would say we are Tamil etc first before Indian.
All our matches are in Southern States and West Bengal where BJP or its allies are not in government. Should not have traveled to Ahmedabad in the first place.
The crowd was racist and disgusting
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You must be naive bro.
Since then relations between the two nations have progressively worsened.
I'm surprised we didn't hear 'Pakistan Murdabad', you're talking about booing and tickets - neither of these come as a surprise to me. Infact the surprise for me is that their abuse of us wasn't worse.
I'd be doing the same if they came to Pak. This is not a sporting rivalry, it hasn't been for years - India are superior where cricket is concerned. This is, and has always been a political rivalry.
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The GOI did a service to Pakistani fans by denying them the opportunity to witness the Ahmedabad Massacre live.
On a serious note, the hostility and attitude of the crowd has nothing to do with whether Pakistani fans were allowed or not.
It is not the Indian fans’ problem that there weren’t any Pakistani fans in the crowd.
They had no obligation to cheer Pakistan or show any respect to the Pakistani players.
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Abusive behavior is never a good thing and they should have done better. Outside of that, keep the heat on!
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No you are missing the point.
There were Pakistan fans at the match vs SL, and vs NL despite the relationship between the 2 countries.
Don't confuse respecting the opposition with denying the opposition entry to a ground vs a certain opposition. My point is in reference to the later.
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Do you remember 2017 ct final how pakistani crowd booed to Virat after lose ,Kohli tujse na hoga and hurled abused also if you can't take it Then don't start simple.
You were talking about Indian crowd what You guys have done to Sarfaraz ahmad who won you champion trophy ,Your ex cricketer ,your pm and awam( not everyone )humiliated him at multiple instances .
You can watch 2017 ct video where they were telling to Kohli Bache and baap thing.
You were talking about Indian crowd what You guys have done to Sarfaraz ahmad who won you champion trophy ,Your ex cricketer ,your pm and awam( not everyone )humiliated him at multiple instances .
You can watch 2017 ct video where they were telling to Kohli Bache and baap thing.
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I dont even know that Pakistanis are granted visas for India anymore (unless media/diplomat type purposes)?
Is it confirmed that Pakistanis were granted visas for tickets to matches in India? I'll plead ignorance because I didn't even think it was a thing. My bro in law is a British-Indian, my sister is British-Pak - she is struggling to get a visa to India to see his family. If she is struggling, I assumed the average Pak cricket fan stood little chance.
Happy to be wrong.
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Which part of there were no Pakistan fans because Pakistan fans were denied tickets for this match do you not understand?
Pakistan fans were offered rickets for SL and NL matches, and remaining matches.
Your points of cheering and respect are woefully irrelevant.
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Pakistanis getting a visa for India is super tough, yes, but yes there were Pakistan fans at the SL and NL games. Not crowd packing but still there.
Even at the Mohali 2011 SF, Pakistani visas were granted at concession at the border.
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I just hope some of the Pakistan players weren’t weeping in the dressing room today after getting booed and hammered.
As for Pakistani fans, they are becoming the biggest cry babies in the cricketing world by far. Actually there isn’t even any competition. The biggest snowflakes in the sport. No other cricket fans behave so small and weak.
As for Pakistani fans, they are becoming the biggest cry babies in the cricketing world by far. Actually there isn’t even any competition. The biggest snowflakes in the sport. No other cricket fans behave so small and weak.
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Good recollection. Tend to forget these things. One more incident with Shami too using the word "baap".
Pakistani fans maybe should start focusing less on the crowd and more on their team who were disastrous. That's the only fact that should matter.
Actually I'm beginning to feel less upset over the crowd behavior now that memories of past behavior by fans from the other side come trickling back.
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This is what I was saying that they won't get Hyderabad like support anywhere else... Chennai may be a bit better.
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Coming to India hoping for any kind of support is crazy to me.
This is the sworn enemy overseen be a hard right-wing anti-Pak, seemingly anti-Muslim govt, deteriorating relations since independence and people are expecting something, anything - crazy.
Ind/Pak brits behave like animals in the UK over this BS, back home is only going to be worse.
This is the sworn enemy overseen be a hard right-wing anti-Pak, seemingly anti-Muslim govt, deteriorating relations since independence and people are expecting something, anything - crazy.
Ind/Pak brits behave like animals in the UK over this BS, back home is only going to be worse.
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Champions Trophy was in England not Pakistan. In this situation India is the host and has additional responsibility.
Whenever Pakistan has hosted India in Pakistan our crowds have only showered them love
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This was India's chance to rise above the doubt the world has on RSS Indians under a right wing ideology, but in true style, RSS India failed to see the bigger picture and decided to show the world that their passion is hate and racism.
If you're going in history than ok wait
1989 - Stones Were Thrown by Pakistani Spectators On Indian Players During Cricket Match In Karachi , Pakistan
1989 :: Pakistani Citizen Attacks Indian Captain Srikant During India Pakistan Cricket Match In Karachi , Pakistan ( Below picture attached)
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indian muslims wont do that in open. hyderabad crowd cheered in sporting spirit.
ahmedabad crowd if they booed babar certainly not cool.
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I feel sorry for South Indian spirited fans who are tarred by the same brush as RSS hateful Indians.
What a polarised country India is.
What a polarised country India is.
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ohh did that happen ? didn't notice that..
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Pakistan has NEVER denied Indians tickets! EVER!
We have big hearts!
We have big hearts!
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When is the next match in HyderabadZ
Hope you guys will be ready with your Pakistan flags and your Pakistan slogans.
Hyderabad has exposed itself a unpatriotic city
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I don't care but the Gujaratis are the most Muslim hating Inds.
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Is Modi going to send the Army in
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Well our Quaid was a Gujrati originally, so that probably hurts them the most
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Wow.
So supporting Pakistan is unpatriotic, while hurling abuses and booing is patriotism. Pathetic
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He doesn’t have to.
The World Cup has just given a great opportunity to Modi and RAW to identify Anti nationals.
They will be taken care of obviously.
If there’s one thing you can’t doubt with Modi is that the man keeps grudges and makes sure to tick off all the wrong doers in their due time.
Hyderabadi Muslims have been gullible enough to expose themselves. Now they will pay in the coming years slowly without anyone knowing.
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There may be 2 reasons for booing.........
1) Babar was speaking in very low voice after the toss, before him Rohit spoke in loud voice.
2) Babar was not in good form, spectator knows he is no.1 batsman, they wanted to make him angry by booing him and u have seen result he scored 50 which is 1st time against India
1) Babar was speaking in very low voice after the toss, before him Rohit spoke in loud voice.
2) Babar was not in good form, spectator knows he is no.1 batsman, they wanted to make him angry by booing him and u have seen result he scored 50 which is 1st time against India
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It somes up the mentality of RSS India.
The historical scars run deep and forever, and they will never be able to think for themselves.
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Times haven't changed. Indians just haven't come to Pakistand in 2 decades.
Sport is A front for what has always been the aaaaaag: Indo-Pak relations. We can be nice and follow the rules and respect the forum. The majority of people from both sides of the border hate each other.
Your crowd showed that, diaspora in UK show that, Govts, policy, bear this out.
It's hate. Booing is gonna happen.
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For all the Indians that claim Indians progressing as a nation, your are wrong, and today proved it. India is regressing, and their excuses is always whataboutism, as I said, they are not free until they think for themselves.
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What factor, how much of a factor do you think such a big crowd and such a partisan crowd against you, like 130,000 people all against you, do you think that had any impact in the things you've mentioned, being timid, etc.?
[Mickey Arthur:]
Look, I'd be lying if I said it did. It didn't seem like an ICC event to be brutally honest. It seemed like a bilateral series; it seemed like a BCCI event. I didn't hear Dil Dil Pakistan coming through the microphones too often tonight.
So yes, that does play a role, but I'm not going to use that as an excuse because for us it was about living the moment, it was about the next ball and it was about how we were going to combat the Indian, the Indian players tonight.
[Reporter:]
Is that right for a World Cup? Should that be allowed to happen?
[Mickey Arthur:]
Look I don't think I can't comment on that just yet. I don't want to get fined.
[Mickey Arthur:]
Look, I'd be lying if I said it did. It didn't seem like an ICC event to be brutally honest. It seemed like a bilateral series; it seemed like a BCCI event. I didn't hear Dil Dil Pakistan coming through the microphones too often tonight.
So yes, that does play a role, but I'm not going to use that as an excuse because for us it was about living the moment, it was about the next ball and it was about how we were going to combat the Indian, the Indian players tonight.
[Reporter:]
Is that right for a World Cup? Should that be allowed to happen?
[Mickey Arthur:]
Look I don't think I can't comment on that just yet. I don't want to get fined.
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Agree with Mickey.
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