Does India even need Virat Kohli anymore?

[Mamoon]

As a Test batsman, Kohli is closer to the level of Ian Bell than he is to Younis Khan. Indians are not ready for this conversation, but they are never ready to face the truth.

 

[kingusama92]

He's without doubt one of the best batsmen to play the sport, but he should have done more in Test cricket.

A man of his talent should have been dominant like Steve Smith.

 

[Mamoon]

No doubt he is arguably the white ball GOAT, and undoubtedly the ODI GOAT, but he doesn’t even qualify as a great Test batsman anymore let alone be counted amongst legends of the format, and that’s a huge dent on his legacy.

His Test career has gone down quicker than IAF pilots do in combat with PAF pilots. The fall from grace post the 2019 series vs South Africa has been astonishing.

2020-2025 Kohli is legitimately one of the worst Test batsmen in the world if not the worst.

 

[shaz619]

As a Test batsman, Kohli is closer to the level of Ian Bell than he is to Younis Khan. Indians are not ready for this conversation, but they are never ready to face the truth.

YK is on another stratosphere to Kohli, YK was a modern great in Tests, and despite that, his record could have been even better. Kohli should have retired in 2019 to fool a few people, think he was averaging 50 then or close to it.

 

[shaz619]

Kohli should join the army, they could do with the help and the bar is not that high

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

YK has four hundreds in SENA in his whole career. I don’t rate him that high, pretty close to Kohli, Sehwag and two levels behind Dravid, Tendulkar and Gavaskar.

 

[Mamoon]

YK has four hundreds in SENA in his whole career. I don’t rate him that high, pretty close to Kohli, Sehwag and two levels behind Dravid, Tendulkar and Gavaskar.

Younis averages higher than Kohli in Australia, England and New Zealand. South Africa is the only place where Kohli has done better than him.

The only reason Kohli has more runs and hundreds is because he has played a lot more Tests in these countries.

Younis has played 25% of his Tests in these countries. On the contrary, Kohli has played 40% of his Tests in these countries.

Younis is simply a far better Test batsman than Kohli and it is not up for debate anymore.

 

[uppercut]

Younis averages higher than Kohli in Australia, England and New Zealand. South Africa is the only place where Kohli has done better than him.

The only reason Kohli has more runs and hundreds is because he has played a lot more Tests in these countries.

Younis has played 25% of his Tests in these countries. On the contrary, Kohli has played 40% of his Tests in these countries.

Younis is simply a far better Test batsman than Kohli and it is not up for debate anymore.

But who is going to convince your own younger self from just a year ago ? .... lol

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yeah... We understand why he opted not to go to england.atleast he us trying hard not to go

https://twitter.com/x/status/1921139707741700499

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Younis averages higher than Kohli in Australia, England and New Zealand. South Africa is the only place where Kohli has done better than him.

The only reason Kohli has more runs and hundreds is because he has played a lot more Tests in these countries.

Younis has played 25% of his Tests in these countries. On the contrary, Kohli has played 40% of his Tests in these countries.

Younis is simply a far better Test batsman than Kohli and it is not up for debate anymore.

4 centuries is still very mediocre. Multiply it by two and you still get 8 centuries against Kohlis 12.

Btw Kohli has 7 centuries in Australia thats more than Khans entire century tally in SENA.

Don’t tell me about his performance in Australia,lol. His average is inflated due to one dead rubber century on the flattest of all pattas, Pakistan didn’t draw a single test match in Aus.


A poster like you who changed his opinion by 180 degree doesn’t get to decide if its debatable or not.

 

[Mamoon]

4 centuries is still very mediocre. Multiply it by two and you still get 8 centuries against Kohlis 12.

Btw Kohli has 7 centuries in Australia thats more than Khans entire century tally in SENA.

Don’t tell me about his performance in Australia,lol. His average is inflated due to one dead rubber century on the flattest of all pattas, Pakistan didn’t draw a single test match in Aus.


A poster like you who changed his opinion by 180 degree doesn’t get to decide if its debatable or not.

Only Indian fans are deluded enough to have the audacity to compare a 50+ averaging batsman with someone who isn’t good enough to finish his career with an average of 47.

As far as the chest-thumping over Kohli’s SENA record is concerned, he averages a poor 38 after 30 Tests in England & New Zealand.

He has benefited from scoring runs on flat Australian pitches which is why it is comical to downplay Younis’ record in Australia.

Here are Australia’s scores in the Tests where Kohli has scored centuries in Australia:

604
572
530
517
326
104

Apart from the Perth Test last year where both teams got bundled cheaply in the first innings, none of his hundreds have come on pitches that can be considered as tough for batting.

Younis retired 8 years ago but even today, I bet he can school Kohli on how to play spin bowling.

Kohli has done nothing in his Test career that will give him superiority over Younis or any other 50+ averaging batsman.

An average of 46 for a middle-order batsman who’s hyped up as an ATG is beyond embarrassing.

 

[Sachin fan]

I am sorry this is Bhagdad Bob level of delusion. I know you guys are being fed propaganda and you need to be patriotic but this is mental illness level of delusion.

 

[Sachin fan]

The Pakistani Air Force showed what they will do with the rest of India who tries to do the same

I am sorry this is Bhagdad Bob level of delusion. I know you guys are being fed propaganda and you need to be patriotic but this is mental illness level of delusion.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

For me, Younis Khan is basically poor mans Rahul Dravid.

Only Indian fans are deluded enough to have the audacity to compare a 50+ averaging batsman with someone who isn’t good enough to finish his career with an average of 47.

As far as the chest-thumping over Kohli’s SENA record is concerned, he averages a poor 38 after 30 Tests in England & New Zealand.

He has benefited from scoring runs on flat Australian pitches which is why it is comical to downplay Younis’ record in Australia.

Here are Australia’s scores in the Tests where Kohli has scored centuries in Australia:

604
572
530
517
326
104

Apart from the Perth Test last year where both teams got bundled cheaply in the first innings, none of his hundreds have come on pitches that can be considered as tough for batting.

Younis retired 8 years ago but even today, I bet he can school Kohli on how to play spin bowling.

Kohli has done nothing in his Test career that will give him superiority over Younis or any other 50+ averaging batsman.

An average of 46 for a middle-order batsman who’s hyped up as an ATG is beyond embarrassing.

104 and 326 are high scores?

You can only school your low iq janta with this nonsense, not me.

Kohlis runs in Australia have helped us draw and win matches, Younis has one century in a lost match and you have the gall of comparing Kohlis performance in Aus with him?

Anyways, Kohli will be remembered decades after his retirement ( something which you said before you got hit on your head) as one the legendary batters, Yk is not even rated by his own nation.

Also, tell me one more thing? Will runs start flowing in 2025 for Babar or not?

Kohli has won more icc tournaments than Pakistan. Yk, Youhana, Inzi do not come close in terms of legacy.

 

[Mamoon]

For me, Younis Khan is basically poor mans Rahul Dravid.

If Younis is a poor man’s Dravid, then Kohli is a homeless man’s Dravid.

104 and 326 are high scores?

Maybe you should learn to read properly before using emojis. I already mentioned the Perth Test from last year, and 326 is not a score that you’ll see on a bowling-friendly pitch. Also, it’s funny how you are completely ignoring all the other hundreds that came on pitches where Australia scored 500+.

You can only school your low iq janta with this nonsense, not me.

I think it’s fair to say that the events of the last few days have proved that the collective IQ of Pakistanis is certainly higher than that of Indians.

Kohlis runs in Australia have helped us draw and win matches, Younis has one century in a lost match and you have the gall of comparing Kohlis performance in Aus with him?

This is one example of a low IQ assertion. Younis is not responsible for his bowlers not taking enough wickets to draw/win in Australia. If you score 175 and lose the match, the blame falls on others batsmen and on the bowlers not on you. You did your part.

Put prime Younis in the Indian team of the last 10 years or so and he draws and wins plenty of Tests in Australia because of India’s excellent bowling attack.

Anyways, Kohli will be remembered decades after his retirement ( something which you said before you got hit on your head) as one the legendary batters, Yk is not even rated by his own nation.

Kohli will be remembered for his exploits in white ball cricket which are phenomenal and also for having arguably the most dramatic fall from grace in history of Test cricket.

Also, tell me one more thing? Will runs start flowing in 2025 for Babar or not?

Babar or anyone else has nothing to do with the fact that Kohli is not even good enough to retire with an average of 47 in Test cricket. If talking about Babar or others makes you feel better about it, carry on.

Kohli has won more icc tournaments than Pakistan. Yk, Youhana, Inzi do not come close in terms of legacy.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he is not even good enough to retire with an average of 47 in Test cricket. The fact that you are bringing white ball cricket into the discussion now proves that you have accepted defeat and I can’t blame you because any middle-order Test batsman who retires with less than 10k runs and less than 50 average cannot be counted amongst the Test greats.

If you want the last word you can have the last word. I don’t need to say much because Kohli’s embarrassing Test record speaks for itself.

 

[Hitman]

Virat Kohli has officially retired from Tests.

 

[MP2011]

Had Kohli retired a year or 2 earlier or at least hinted BCCI about his intentions of quitting tests, we could have at least groomed his replacement against lesser opponents or in home conditions.

Now after selfishly retiring just before the England tour which is a baptism with fire for any batsman, let alone a debutant/young upcoming batsman, Kohli has only proved how selfish he has been.

 

[MP2011]

Anyways, he can be proud of what he achieved as our test captain and during his purple patch. Not sure, we could have a better test captain than him going forward.

 

[Katwalindian]

Only Indian fans are deluded enough to have the audacity to compare a 50+ averaging batsman with someone who isn’t good enough to finish his career with an average of 47.

As far as the chest-thumping over Kohli’s SENA record is concerned, he averages a poor 38 after 30 Tests in England & New Zealand.

He has benefited from scoring runs on flat Australian pitches which is why it is comical to downplay Younis’ record in Australia.

Here are Australia’s scores in the Tests where Kohli has scored centuries in Australia:

604
572
530
517
326
104

Apart from the Perth Test last year where both teams got bundled cheaply in the first innings, none of his hundreds have come on pitches that can be considered as tough for batting.

Younis retired 8 years ago but even today, I bet he can school Kohli on how to play spin bowling.

Kohli has done nothing in his Test career that will give him superiority over Younis or any other 50+ averaging batsman.

An average of 46 for a middle-order batsman who’s hyped up as an ATG is beyond embarrassing.

And don't forget yk was never gven red carpet treatment like virat kohli. He was mostly in and out of team and bench player until 2010 where he also miss whole 2009-10 away tours of australia, england and new zealand due to politics in team when he was in his peak otherwise his away record would be even better. Thanks to misbah he brong stability from 2011 and he played regularly for 6 years and and retired with 10k runs with 7 hundreds in SENA. So he either tour SENA when he is young or he tour SENA when he is out of peak like 2014-2016 but still score 200 at the age of 41 in uk in 2016 when virat kohli of 36 can't even tour UK and run away and retire. Plus who forget his 55 plus average in 4th innings. A great Test player on league of sangakkara and dravid, but I think sangakkara is little overrated because he bashes bangladesh and zimbabwe a lot, around 25 percent of his runs are against them....

 

[mominsaigol]

For me, Younis Khan is basically poor mans Rahul Dravid.

104 and 326 are high scores?

You can only school your low iq janta with this nonsense, not me.

Kohlis runs in Australia have helped us draw and win matches, Younis has one century in a lost match and you have the gall of comparing Kohlis performance in Aus with him?

Anyways, Kohli will be remembered decades after his retirement ( something which you said before you got hit on your head) as one the legendary batters, Yk is not even rated by his own nation.

Also, tell me one more thing? Will runs start flowing in 2025 for Babar or not?

Kohli has won more icc tournaments than Pakistan. Yk, Youhana, Inzi do not come close in terms of legacy.

Kohli fan boy alert , but but but but, I have clout on an aussie forumn so I win.

 

[Ball Blazer]

VIRAT KOHLI IN THE LAST 29 INNINGS IN IPL:

100(63), 101*(61), 21(20), 77(49), 83*(59), 22(16), 113*(72), 3(9), 42(20), 18(7), 51(43), 70*(44), 42(27), 92(47), 27(13), 47(29), 33(24), 59*(36), 31(30), 7(6), 67(42), 22(14), 62*(45), 1(3), 73*(54), 70(42), 51(47), 62(33) & 43(25).