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Does India even need Virat Kohli anymore?

Hitman said:
No!!!! The way they have been leaching my team, particularly Kohli, makes both of them unworthy of a farewell.
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They definitely don’t deserve a farewell esp Rohit, should be thrown out in the middle of the series for making Gill sit out
 
lol, both Manjrekar & Shastri saying that Kohli can still play test cricket for another 3-4 years.
 
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MP2011 said:
I thought with Dhoni delaying his retirement by atleast 4 years, I have seen the most selfish man of Indian cricket but alas, I was wrong.
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MSD was a keeper. So his runs were not really expected. But this guy is a batsman. With average of 6 how the heck he gets to decide whether Ashwin should be in the XI or Sundar in the XI or Jadeja in the Xi when the fact all 3 of them are way better contributors than him.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
MSD was a keeper. So his runs were not really expected. But this guy is a batsman. With average of 6 how the heck he gets to decide whether Ashwin should be in the XI or Sundar in the XI or Jadeja in the Xi when the fact all 3 of them are way better contributors than him.
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Or for that matter, Gill who will be an upgrade over him
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Gill is the 2nd highest run getter for INdia in the year 2024. He looked the best batsman in the pink ball test where ball was whopping around.
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How can Rohit and Kohli decide who'll play and who won't when their own positions in team are untenable?

So Gambhir is just a rubber stamp? All that false bravado counts for nothing?
 
MP2011 said:
I thought with Dhoni delaying his retirement by atleast 4 years, I have seen the most selfish man of Indian cricket but alas, I was wrong.
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Atleast Dhoni retired after he saw Kohli do decent captaincy in 2014-15 series, here Rohit Bhai knew Bumrah won the first test and still took over for remaining games, he deserves being benched by Hardik in MI.
 
its a right time for Virat to say good bye to International cricket otherwise he will keep providing meme material to the trollers with his frustrated attitude.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Am I a selector?

I'm saying your selectors should dump him...

Comparison with Sachin is valid. Sachin was chasing a record so your selectors were scared to dump him - what is Kohli chasing?
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Kohli seems to spend half his time chasing journalists, haters, and paparazzi away from his wife and daughter, like an unpaid security guard. Sachin, on the other hand, never had to run these high-energy marathons, which is probably why he could save his stamina for cricket and outlast Kohli in the game. :inti
 
Hitman said:
Dost, why are you hell bent on rubbing salt and lemon to our wounds?
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Dost, how is it rubbing salt to your wounds. Test players like these 2 don’t come everyday. It would be naive to think that they can be replaced easily.
 
Kohli looks cooked. He could have an Ind summer and the individual that he is, it's perfectly possibly that he may do. But Starc made a mug out of him.
 
JaDed said:
Atleast Dhoni retired after he saw Kohli do decent captaincy in 2014-15 series, here Rohit Bhai knew Bumrah won the first test and still took over for remaining games, he deserves being benched by Hardik in MI.
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That was Test cricket which he didn't like playing anyway.

He screwed us in ODIs for 4 years.
 
Farabi said:
Dost, how is it rubbing salt to your wounds. Test players like these 2 don’t come everyday. It would be naive to think that they can be replaced easily.
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They can easily be replaced. Same things were said about them in T20 cricket and the team has actually gotten better.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
They can easily be replaced. Same things were said about them in T20 cricket and the team has actually gotten better.
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It’s your point of view.
T20 cricket is not test cricket. It’s an achievement to play 100 tests, is it the same for T20Is. Does Aus for example experiment with test team or t20 team.
Test players are deep investments and after removing both, this test team will all be youngsters. KL Rahul and Pant will become seniors. It’s the wrong way to rebuild
 
Nikhil_cric said:
They can easily be replaced. Same things were said about them in T20 cricket and the team has actually gotten better.
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5 years due. KOhli should have been kicked out atleast 3 yeasr back. He has been averaging 30 for the last 5 years. That is slightly better than tailender
 
Farabi said:
It’s your point of view.
T20 cricket is not test cricket. It’s an achievement to play 100 tests, is it the same for T20Is. Does Aus for example experiment with test team or t20 team.
Test players are deep investments and after removing both, this test team will all be youngsters. KL Rahul and Pant will become seniors. It’s the wrong way to rebuild
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We have better replacements for the current versions of these players in Test cricket. No question about it.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
We have better replacements for the current versions of these players in Test cricket. No question about it.
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Fans are the same across the border and everywhere else in the world. It was eye-opening to see the amount of hate Kohli and Rohit are getting from Indian fans after a bad season or two. Anyway, nobody said that Rohit and Kohli cannot be replaced in Test cricket; it was about what the right rebuilding process looks like. Your comparison to T20s clearly shows that you don’t get the nuance.
 
Farabi said:
Dost, how is it rubbing salt to your wounds. Test players like these 2 don’t come everyday. It would be naive to think that they can be replaced easily.
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Like who two? Rohit is a nothing great in Tests, Virat was a good leader for a while that built a good team but he definitely out.
 
Farabi said:
Fans are the same across the border and everywhere else in the world. It was eye-opening to see the amount of hate Kohli and Rohit are getting from Indian fans after a bad season or two. Anyway, nobody said that Rohit and Kohli cannot be replaced in Test cricket; it was about what the right rebuilding process looks like. Your comparison to T20s clearly shows that you don’t get the nuance.
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Please don't talk about nuance when you clearly talk about playing ODI bowlers playing Tests and being successful as if there is any correlation.

I was talking about posters here claiming India will struggle to be competitive in white ball cricket post Virat and Rohit and that has not been the case at all.

Similarly, it won't be the case in Test cricket.

It was only analogy which seems to have gone right over you.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Please don't talk about nuance when you clearly talk about playing ODI bowlers playing Tests and being successful as if there is any correlation.

I was talking about posters here claiming India will struggle to be competitive in white ball cricket post Virat and Rohit and that has not been the case at all.

Similarly, it won't be the case in Test cricket.

It was only analogy which seems to have gone right over you.
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You didn’t understand the comment and ran with it. Success in ODIs can suggest potential for Test cricket, but it’s not guaranteed. Specifically, ODI bowlers with control, reverse swing/movement, and discipline often adapt well, though Tests demand more stamina and patience. Shaheen’s 4-5 meter lengths (similar to Abbas’s), reverse swing, height and movement both ways would have made him more effective than Naseem, Khurram Shahzad or Jamal in South Africa (as they all bowl hard lengths 6-8 meters). While managing his workload is vital, Shaheen’s skillset suggests he’d have been a real asset in SA Tests. You have no clue if you think otherwise. Even when he was 18, he averaged 26 in SA test series when he had less skills and similar pace, just because of the bounce he got.

I never mentioned white ball cricket regarding Kohli and Rohit anywhere in my comments above. However , test form cannot be confused with ODI form. The comment was about test cricket, which is the most challenging format. It’s rare to find a test player who will last 100 tests, and they cannot be wasted.
 
Farabi said:
You didn’t understand the comment and ran with it. Success in ODIs can suggest potential for Test cricket, but it’s not guaranteed. Specifically, ODI bowlers with control, reverse swing/movement, and discipline often adapt well, though Tests demand more stamina and patience. Shaheen’s 4-5 meter lengths (similar to Abbas’s), reverse swing, height and movement both ways would have made him more effective than Naseem, Khurram Shahzad or Jamal in South Africa (as they all bowl hard lengths 6-8 meters). While managing his workload is vital, Shaheen’s skillset suggests he’d have been a real asset in SA Tests. You have no clue if you think otherwise. Even when he was 18, he averaged 26 in SA test series when he had less skills and similar pace, just because of the bounce he got.

I never mentioned white ball cricket regarding Kohli and Rohit anywhere in my comments above. However , test form cannot be confused with ODI form. The comment was about test cricket, which is the most challenging format. It’s rare to find a test player who will last 100 tests, and they cannot be wasted.
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Farabi said:
Fans are the same across the border and everywhere else in the world. It was eye-opening to see the amount of hate Kohli and Rohit are getting from Indian fans after a bad season or two. Anyway, nobody said that Rohit and Kohli cannot be replaced in Test cricket; it was about what the right rebuilding process looks like. Your comparison to T20s clearly shows that you don’t get the nuance.
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I am not sure when you started watching cricket lol Kohli has been failing for 4 or 5 years.
 
Both Kohli and Rohit career is over now. Father time is undefeated.

Today there was no pressure to score, he could just leave every ball and still got out cheaply
 
Farabi said:
Long enough to know the caliber of Kohli and what it takes to build a test player
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What calibre. He has been the worst test player going around for the last 4 or 5 years. Nobody wants him. SO many lower order batsmen have outperformed him over the course. He had a peak. Outside his peak he is one of the most average batsmen.
 
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Nope, India does not need Kohli anymore. Kohli is a passenger in the team. Indian team is bearing more damage with him being in the team.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
What calibre. He has been the worst test player going around for the last 4 or 5 years. Nobody wants him. SO many lower order batsmen have outperformed him over the course. He had a peak. Outside his peak he is one of the most average batsmen.
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Rebuilding test team is painful. It would be foolish to drop Rohit and Kohli.
KL Rahul and Pant will become “senior cricketers” but are they ready to lead the batting? Pant played some irresponsible shots and he appears to be found out, and whenever runs don’t come from the top and pressure comes on him, he’s not been able to carry the team. KL Rahul is the proper senior batter and may be able to carry the team from the middle order as his technique is solid.
 
Somebody should make a compilation video of Kohli dismissals from this year. I am sure 90% of them would be him edging on off-stump and getting caught in the slips or by the keeper.
 
He still got a hundred on this tour, I think main issue for India is the age of their seniors and am not sure if both Rohit & Kohli should play together, especially outside India
 
Faf du Plessis, while interacting with the media on the sidelines of SA20 Season 3's Captain's Day, spoke about Virat Kohli's retirement:

“That is very, very personal. No one can speak to you about when that time is (up) as a player, you'll know.”

“I know someone like him is super super motivated, he's gone through it all before, so he knows exactly what to do.”
 
Nope... India does not need him anymore... His chapter should be closed now... Farewell legend from few years ago
 
Virat is liability for team india.

Gambhir used to talk big before becoming a coach but now he has become another politician .

Nobody has the guts to dropped Virat Kohli .
 
When is India's next test match at home? I bet it will get announced that the first test is Kohli farewell test.

In ODI he should retire after champions trophy.
 
Kohli can regain his ATG status if India starts to play bi-lateral against Pakistan.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
When is India's next test match at home? I bet it will get announced that the first test is Kohli farewell test.

In ODI he should retire after champions trophy.
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He's not big enough to get a farewell test. Even Dravid/Laxman were not afforded that luxury.

Anyway, our next home test is not until the latter half of the year.
 
In a YouTube conversation with former India batter Subramaniam Badrinath, ex-India coach Bharat Arun shared insights into his experience coaching Virat Kohli and revealed how Kohli responded to criticism and advice from the coaching staff:

"See, Virat Kohli will definitely ask. If you suggest changes to him or anything like that, you should have a very good reason as to why you are suggesting it. I am sure that he will do so because he is the No. 1 batter in the world. When you make suggestions about what is wrong, he will ask questions like - what is wrong with me and how did I miss my runs."
 
Here’s a look at seven records Virat Kohli can break during the India-New Zealand Champions Trophy 2025 match in Dubai on Sunday (March 2):

Most runs for India in the Champions Trophy: Virat Kohli has 651 runs to his name in 15 Champions Trophy matches played so far for Team India. If during India’s match against New Zealand, Kohli manages to score at least 51 runs, then he will break Shikhar Dhawan’s record and become India’s leading run scorer in the tournament’s history. Dhawan played 10 Champions Trophy matches for Men in Blue and scored 701 runs.

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Most runs in Champions Trophy: Kohli will break Chris Gayle’s record and become the leading run scorer in Champions Trophy history if he manages to score at least 142 runs against New Zealand. Gayle played 17 Champions Trophy matches for the Men in Maroon across four editions and scored 791 runs.

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Most runs for India against New Zealand in ODIs: Since making his ODI debut for India in August 2008, Kohli has played 31 ODIs against New Zealand and has 1645 runs to his name against the Black Caps. If he manages to score at least 106 runs on Sunday, then he will break Sachin Tendulkar’s record of 1750 runs and become India’s leading run scorer in the 50-over format of the game against the Kiwis. The overall record of scoring most ODI runs against New Zealand is held by Ricky Ponting. During his 17-year-long international career, Ponting scored 1971 runs in 51 matches.

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Most 100s vs New Zealand in ODIs: Kohli has scored six centuries in 31 ODIs played so far against the Black Caps. If the former India captain manages to score a century on Sunday, then he will become the first batter in the world to register seven triple-digit scores in the 50-over format of the game against New Zealand. As of now, in the list of batters with most ODI 100s against Kiwis, Kohli is on level terms with Virender Sehwag and Ponting, who finished their careers with six centuries each against New Zealand.

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Most 50+ scores in Champions Trophy and ICC ODI events: Kohli has six 50+ scores to his name in the Champions Trophy and 23 in ICC ODI events (World Cup and Champions Trophy). If he manages to score at least 50 runs against New Zealand, he will become the first batter in the world to register seven 50+ scores in the Champions Trophy and 24 in ICC ODI events. As of now, apart from Kohli, Shikhar Dhawan, Rahul Dravid, and Sourav Ganguly also have six 50+ scores to their names in the Champions Trophy, and Sachin Tendulkar has 23 fifty-plus scores in ICC ODI events.

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2nd leading run scorer in ODIs: Kohli became the fastest batter to score 14,000 ODI runs on Sunday (February 23) during India’s match against Pakistan, and if he manages to score at least 150 runs against New Zealand, then he will break Kumar Sangakkara’s record and become the second leading run scorer in ODIs. During his 15-year-long ODI career, Sangakkara played 404 matches for Sri Lanka and ICC and scored 14,234 runs.

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2nd most successful fielder in ODIs: Kohli broke Mohammad Azharuddin’s record of 156 catches and became India’s most successful fielder in ODIs on February 23, 2025. If the 36-year-old cricketer manages to complete three catches against New Zealand, then he will break Ponting’s record (160 catches) and become the second most successful ODI fielder after Mahela Jayawardene.

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Cricket Warrior said:
Here’s a look at seven records Virat Kohli can break during the India-New Zealand Champions Trophy 2025 match in Dubai on Sunday (March 2):

Most runs for India in the Champions Trophy: Virat Kohli has 651 runs to his name in 15 Champions Trophy matches played so far for Team India. If during India’s match against New Zealand, Kohli manages to score at least 51 runs, then he will break Shikhar Dhawan’s record and become India’s leading run scorer in the tournament’s history. Dhawan played 10 Champions Trophy matches for Men in Blue and scored 701 runs.

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Most runs in Champions Trophy: Kohli will break Chris Gayle’s record and become the leading run scorer in Champions Trophy history if he manages to score at least 142 runs against New Zealand. Gayle played 17 Champions Trophy matches for the Men in Maroon across four editions and scored 791 runs.

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Most runs for India against New Zealand in ODIs: Since making his ODI debut for India in August 2008, Kohli has played 31 ODIs against New Zealand and has 1645 runs to his name against the Black Caps. If he manages to score at least 106 runs on Sunday, then he will break Sachin Tendulkar’s record of 1750 runs and become India’s leading run scorer in the 50-over format of the game against the Kiwis. The overall record of scoring most ODI runs against New Zealand is held by Ricky Ponting. During his 17-year-long international career, Ponting scored 1971 runs in 51 matches.

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Most 100s vs New Zealand in ODIs: Kohli has scored six centuries in 31 ODIs played so far against the Black Caps. If the former India captain manages to score a century on Sunday, then he will become the first batter in the world to register seven triple-digit scores in the 50-over format of the game against New Zealand. As of now, in the list of batters with most ODI 100s against Kiwis, Kohli is on level terms with Virender Sehwag and Ponting, who finished their careers with six centuries each against New Zealand.

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Most 50+ scores in Champions Trophy and ICC ODI events: Kohli has six 50+ scores to his name in the Champions Trophy and 23 in ICC ODI events (World Cup and Champions Trophy). If he manages to score at least 50 runs against New Zealand, he will become the first batter in the world to register seven 50+ scores in the Champions Trophy and 24 in ICC ODI events. As of now, apart from Kohli, Shikhar Dhawan, Rahul Dravid, and Sourav Ganguly also have six 50+ scores to their names in the Champions Trophy, and Sachin Tendulkar has 23 fifty-plus scores in ICC ODI events.

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2nd leading run scorer in ODIs: Kohli became the fastest batter to score 14,000 ODI runs on Sunday (February 23) during India’s match against Pakistan, and if he manages to score at least 150 runs against New Zealand, then he will break Kumar Sangakkara’s record and become the second leading run scorer in ODIs. During his 15-year-long ODI career, Sangakkara played 404 matches for Sri Lanka and ICC and scored 14,234 runs.

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2nd most successful fielder in ODIs: Kohli broke Mohammad Azharuddin’s record of 156 catches and became India’s most successful fielder in ODIs on February 23, 2025. If the 36-year-old cricketer manages to complete three catches against New Zealand, then he will break Ponting’s record (160 catches) and become the second most successful ODI fielder after Mahela Jayawardene.

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Again , no offense , but honestly who cares about Kohlis individual records ?? All we as Ind cricket supporters will care about is how many matches has Ind won, how many series, how many ICC titles ? Team over individuals simple. If his performances are helping team Ind , then great. If not , if he is a liability, he needs to be dropped. No individual glorification at the expense of the country.
 
India would love if Virat can repeat his performance today in the game against NZ.

Although they have qualified for the semis but Kohli would want to beat Kiwis after that world cup defeat as a revenge
 
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