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Does India even need Virat Kohli anymore?

Form is temporary class is forever. Playing some lovely drives and showing all his class.
 
Boy does he love Australia. His 7th test century in Australia.

In contrast the likes of Hazelwood, Cummins, Marsh, Head made easy work of Babar Azam in Australia at his peak.

Pakistan's so called best batsman got dropped from his team in his prime but that never happened with Kohli even at his worst.
 
Virat Kohli is that stock whose fundamentals are so right you don’t care if it’s taken a hit at the market, just be patient and stick with it, ultimately it will go on a bull run again and I reckon he still has it in him.
 
Here are his batting averages in Test cricket since 2020 -

2020 - 19.22
2021 - 28.21
2022 - 26.50
2023 - 55.91
2024 - 25.75
 
He doesn't need India anymore either, if he's moving to the UK.
 
His Test average is now below 48. Should probably have retired when his average was well over 50.
 
IAJ said:
His Test average is now below 48. Should probably have retired when his average was well over 50.
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It's selectors job to drop him.

His performance isn't great but he is playing for the love of the game.

Unlike others he doesn't seem to be chasing stats :sachin

It's just a desire to play the game he loves
 
He should retire after this series too. Simply not capable enough to feature in Indian test team.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It's selectors job to drop him.

His performance isn't great but he is playing for the love of the game.

Unlike others he doesn't seem to be chasing stats :sachin

It's just a desire to play the game he loves
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I agree. It's why Rizwan and Babar should play T20I cricket for the next decade.

Pakistan don't look like they can produce better T20 batters anyway . But on the off chance they do, it's better to stick to Rizwan because he's more passionate than anyone else.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I agree. It's why Rizwan and Babar should play T20I cricket for the next decade.

Pakistan don't look like they can produce better T20 batters anyway . But on the off chance they do, it's better to stick to Rizwan because he's more passionate than anyone else.
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I don't know what you are agreeing with because it's unrelated to anything that I've said or to the thread.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It's selectors job to drop him.

His performance isn't great but he is playing for the love of the game.

Unlike others he doesn't seem to be chasing stats :sachin

It's just a desire to play the game he loves
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You are saying it is ok for this :vk1 (behaviour wise) non performer stay in the side because your justification is that he is playing the game he loves 😂.

Lord...

Also manages to bring the second greatest batsmen of all time just for the sake of it, you Pakistanis need 24 hour counselling, medication and shock therapy all together to try and get over this control SRT have on your lives...
 
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SRT set such a high standard in test cricket tbh that only Steve smith and Bradman are reactive towards it.

51 centuries + 50+ Avg + Consistent performance in each and every country + close to 16K test runs.

That's really one heck of an achievement, unfair to compare Kohli to SRT.

However kohli should just call it quits in test cricket. Man went from 57 avg + 27 centuries and well on his way to retire with 12 to 13K test runs to literally only scoring 3 centuries in 4 years, dropping his test avg below 50+ and is struggling life and line to just reach 10K test runs.

Sachin is easily the best no 4 in test cricket of all time while kohli is just another tom dick and Harry at no 4 in test.
 
Romali_rotti said:
You are saying it is ok for this :vk1 (behaviour wise) non performer stay in the side because your justification is that he is playing the game he loves 😂.

Lord...

Also manages to bring the second greatest batsmen of all time just for the sake of it, you Pakistanis need 24 hour counselling, medication and shock therapy all together to try and get over this control SRT have on your lives...
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Am I a selector?

I'm saying your selectors should dump him...

Comparison with Sachin is valid. Sachin was chasing a record so your selectors were scared to dump him - what is Kohli chasing?
 
Indians rave about BCCI 24/7 but through hissy fits at Pakistanis when we ask why this all powerful board is too scared to drop 1 man.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Am I a selector?

I'm saying your selectors should dump him...

It seems you can't understand simple English.

Comparison with Sachin is valid. Sachin was chasing a record so your selectors were scared to dump him - what is Kohli chasing?
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Sachin is 100x the test batter that kohli is.

Ik you despise Sachin, so i won't get into Sachin vs Top 5 or top 10 test batters since I myself don't believe he's top 1.

And in odi cricket these 2 are more debatable so idrc who's > who in that format.

However comparing a guy who dropped his avg below 50, and is struggling life and limb to cross 10k test runs is an insult to any batter be it smith, lara, Sachin, or heck even root who maintained consistency and won games in said format.

As for record chasing, kohli 100% chases records. India in the 1st test could have easily declared. Aus wasn't even gonna chase 400 let's alone 500+ runs in the 2nd innings. That slow molasses 100 was 100% a record chase to get to 30 centuries.

And bumrah allowed it in the sane way every single cricketer in India including the managerial team such as the selectors allow it cause Kohli is probs the most protected cricketer in the world atm.

And even Indian fans are getting sick of it since he's now destroying test cricket for Indian fans.
 
mominsaigol said:
Sachin is 100x the test batter that kohli is.

Ik you despise Sachin, so i won't get into Sachin vs Top 5 or top 10 test batters since I myself don't believe he's top 1.

And in odi cricket these 2 are more debatable so idrc who's > who in that format.

However comparing a guy who dropped his avg below 50, and is struggling life and limb to cross 10k test runs is an insult to any batter be it smith, lara, Sachin, or heck even root who maintained consistency and won games in said format.

As for record chasing, kohli 100% chases records. India in the 1st test could have easily declared. Aus wasn't even gonna chase 400 let's alone 500+ runs in the 2nd innings. That slow molasses 100 was 100% a record chase to get to 30 centuries.

And bumrah allowed it in the sane way every single cricketer in India including the managerial team such as the selectors allow it cause Kohli is probs the most protected cricketer in the world atm.

And even Indian fans are getting sick of it since he's now destroying test cricket for Indian fans.
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I am not comparing Sachin the cricketer to Kohli the cricketer.

If you feel insulted by me comparing the attitudes of selectors to these these two players then that's on you.

These guys parade up and down claiming they run cricket but their system doesn't have the balls to drop one guy?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Am I a selector?

I'm saying your selectors should dump him...

Comparison with Sachin is valid. Sachin was chasing a record so your selectors were scared to dump him - what is Kohli chasing?
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Cuz,

Kohli doesn't have the ability to chase records he doesn't have the technique, talent or ability to do it, he wouldve ended his career as an atg if he had that ability. Since Kohli doesn't have what it takes he ends up like a mediocre to decent bat like Inzi when his career ends.....
 
Romali_rotti said:
Cuz,

Kohli doesn't have the ability to chase records he doesn't have the technique, talent or ability to do it, he wouldve ended his career as an atg if he had that ability. Since Kohli doesn't have what it takes he ends up like a mediocre to decent bat like Inzi when his career ends.....
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Since he doesn't have any of these things and is not chasing any records- is already a multi millionaire with Bollywood wife why do you think he plays 5 day cricket?

It's clear he has a deep love for the game else he would have retired. He literally has nothing else to play for
 
DeadlyVenom said:
It's clear he has a deep love for the game else he would have retired. He literally has nothing else to play for
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Correct, he literally has nothing to play for and nothing to offer Indian cricket other than to stop the progress of the Indian side by keeping the spot away from an up and coming young kid who deserves the spot.

In other words, selfishness to the absolute core.
 
Young Indian batsmen are playing much better than oldies may it be test or T20...Rohit and Kohli will be gone soon. Rohit is totally clueless
 
Virat doesn’t need India, Virat is bailing India remember; he cannot wait to settle outside of India.

No, India/BCCI needs Virat as much as they need Pakistan matches - for the readies.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Kohli will retire at the end of the series.

Rohit will retire after this Test. Its embarrassing to see both of these stalwarts play like tailenders now.
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That shameless duo won't quit unless clearly told by the selectors that they'll be dropped if they don't retire.
 
Hitman said:
That shameless duo won't quit unless clearly told by the selectors that they'll be dropped if they don't retire.
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Selectors will not force them into retirement. These 2 players must decide for themselves.

Kohli already has half of his foot in England. He should settle there and give some young batsman a chance.
 
He must retire at end of this series. Same mistake again and again. Just can’t resist.

This is a flat deck and his output combined in both innings is not even 50.

Rohit must retire officially by today or tomorrow.
 
Ab Fan said:
He must retire at end of this series. Same mistake again and again. Just can’t resist.

This is a flat deck and his output combined in both innings is not even 50.

Rohit must retire officially by today or tomorrow.
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He needs to be booed heavily by Indian fans today at the presentation ceremony. That'll help him make up his mind.
 
Rohit should have never played tests, he doesn’t have the work ethic required for tests.

Kohli should have retired few years ago.

Both of them have no cricketing reason to play international cricket in 2024.

Both are purely playing due to commercial reasons and money BCCI makes off them.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indians rave about BCCI 24/7 but through hissy fits at Pakistanis when we ask why this all powerful board is too scared to drop 1 man.
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Sports need money, the dud is still their superstar.
Jordan for NBA is an example.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Rohit should have never played tests, he doesn’t have the work ethic required for tests.

Kohli should have retired few years ago.

Both of them have no cricketing reason to play international cricket in 2024.

Both are purely playing due to commercial reasons and money BCCI makes off them.
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Annoyed by Indian superstars, Dhoni defn cost us few ICC Tournaments and now Rohit argh!
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Indians rave about BCCI 24/7 but through hissy fits at Pakistanis when we ask why this all powerful board is too scared to drop 1 man.
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You miss the point, out of the thousands of crores riding on these players, the players receive a miniscule portion compared to the board.

BCCI is not scared to drop them instead they are greedy and corrupt to drop them.
 
You won't find more shameless cricketers than this guy, absolutely shameless and selfish to the core.
 
Rohit and Kohli are champion players. It would be foolish of India to touch them.
Test cricket isn’t for rookies. They should continue and develop new players under their wings. They are universities of batting.
 
JaDed said:
Sports need money, the dud is still their superstar.
Jordan for NBA is an example.
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big_gamer007 said:
You miss the point, out of the thousands of crores riding on these players, the players receive a miniscule portion compared to the board.

BCCI is not scared to drop them instead they are greedy and corrupt to drop them.
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What do the rich BCCI gain from one player at the fag end of his career?
 
DeadlyVenom said:
What do the rich BCCI gain from one player at the fag end of his career?
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Sponsorship money.

Kohli brings viewership, viewership numbers bring more money to BCCI coffers.

Sachin > Dhoni > Kohli transition was very smooth. Unfortunately we didn’t get a successor for Kohli, BCCI was hoping Pant but he met an accident then Prithvi Shaw will be the one then thought it would be Gill, now Jaiswal.

Had Pant not suffered the accident and actually became a consistent performer he would have taken over the sponsorship and viewership numbers from Kohli and Kohli/Sharma would have retired after 23 World Cup.
 
Does India need Kohli?

Based on evidence India needed a firing Kohli to have any chance of winning the series.

Since he wasnt upto standards, India had no hope in hell of winning BGT.
 
Farabi said:
Rohit and Kohli are champion players. It would be foolish of India to touch them.
Test cricket isn’t for rookies. They should continue and develop new players under their wings. They are universities of batting.
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Dost, why are you hell bent on rubbing salt and lemon to our wounds?
 
Hitman said:
No!!!! The way they have been leaching my team, particularly Kohli, makes both of them unworthy of a farewell.
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Series and WTC already gone so they can be given a farewell
Just tolerate them for one last time
 
Hitman said:
No!!!! The way they have been leaching my team, particularly Kohli, makes both of them unworthy of a farewell.
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You realise it's his ego that's causing his test form to deteriorate and not his age?

Why is he so obsessed with chasing the ball on the 3rd offstump?

Steve smith figured how to get back in form, He realised that he was getting out either due to playing stupid shots, or whenever he shuffled across the crease bumrah would get him LBW.

So he changed his stance for bumrah and just didn't play anything besides drives in the 3rd test. It was a painful 100 but a much needed one.

By the 4th test he was back in form and was free flow.
 
Needs to do everyone a favor and retire from test cricket after the next test. I would say he should retire now, but that would only cause more instability and chaos in the team. Same goes for Rohit.
 
big_gamer007 said:
Sponsorship money.

Kohli brings viewership, viewership numbers bring more money to BCCI coffers.

Sachin > Dhoni > Kohli transition was very smooth. Unfortunately we didn’t get a successor for Kohli, BCCI was hoping Pant but he met an accident then Prithvi Shaw will be the one then thought it would be Gill, now Jaiswal.

Had Pant not suffered the accident and actually became a consistent performer he would have taken over the sponsorship and viewership numbers from Kohli and Kohli/Sharma would have retired after 23 World Cup.
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I am surprised that BCCI success hinges on one man.
 
"Watch Virat craft a masterful century in Sydney, followed by his resolute declaration: 'I don’t remain in a team merely for the sake of appearances.'
"Deep down, he’s no different from every other Asian cricketer—clinging to the team even when it’s time to move on. Despite all his attempts to appear youthful and relevant, including donning studs to project a younger image, it’s clear he’s trying to stave off the inevitable calls for retirement. Let’s face it, sir, you’re a flat-track bully. You had your 3–4 years of brilliance and a purple patch in 2023. Retire with dignity while the respect is still intact. And if you insist on sticking around to score a century every 15 innings, at least spare us the post-match presentations. Your verbal diarrhea is unbearable."
 
He should drop the act with his fake aggression—jumping around just for the cameras. It’s painfully embarrassing, especially when he gets out after barely scoring anything. He’s the perfect embodiment of the stereotypical North Indian guy: all bark and no bite. So much pointless aggression, but when it’s time to deliver on the pitch, he Delivers nothing
 
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With his brand value he can play for next 10 years without question. IT is sickening. BCCI is so corrupt
 
mominsaigol said:
You realise it's his ego that's causing his test form to deteriorate and not his age?

Why is he so obsessed with chasing the ball on the 3rd offstump?

Steve smith figured how to get back in form, He realised that he was getting out either due to playing stupid shots, or whenever he shuffled across the crease bumrah would get him LBW.

So he changed his stance for bumrah and just didn't play anything besides drives in the 3rd test. It was a painful 100 but a much needed one.

By the 4th test he was back in form and was free flow.
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It's when you consider yourself bigger than your team, and when you start believing you are entitled a place in the team irrespective of your performance.
 
Hitman said:
That shameless duo won't quit unless clearly told by the selectors that they'll be dropped if they don't retire.
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I believe they wanted to go on a high by winning WTC just like in T20s.

Maybe Rohit will retire. But Kohli won't from Tests right now
 
DeadlyVenom said:
I am surprised that BCCI success hinges on one man.
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You are misinterpreting success with greed.

BCCI is greedy that’s why they are richest board in the world.

People like Kohli/Sharma bring extra money but irrespective of them being there or not BCCI would still be rich and in profits.
But why would BCCI say no to few extra thousands of crores if its sole purpose is to make money?
 
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