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Does Jasprit Bumrah have a legal action?

Now posters aparently here know what Australian commentators have been asked by Fox sports to say.

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How do you know they are told to? Were you there to listen?

The other day you were saying with a straight face Bumrah is a chucker as if you have some proof.

You tend to think too highly of yourself. Unlike @IMMY69 , I wont call you jealous. Its just that you are highly delusional...I have noticed in political threads as well.
And you think they are free to speak their mind? The BCCI are more controlling than North Korea. If the commentators are free to speak their mind, why couldn't they say a word about Kohli until Michael Vaughan summed up the courage. A guy veers off his path and barges another player but the commies were mealy mouthed. That's just one example.
 
And you think they are free to speak their mind? The BCCI are more controlling than North Korea. If the commentators are free to speak their mind, why couldn't they say a word about Kohli until Michael Vaughan summed up the courage. A guy veers off his path and barges another player but the commies were mealy mouthed. That's just one example.

Why would Fox sports be controlled by BCCI? Kohli has been condemned not only by Australian commentators but Indians ones as well including Ravi shastri. You are simply assuming that BCCI is gagging sporting bodies around the world which is stopping them to speaking up. That is your assumption and you have zero proof about it.

Why did likes of Ian Pont and Ian Bishop explained that Bumrah don't chuck? Why did Rashid Latif said the same? All of them are scared of BCCI is it?

If you are under so much delusion and think BCCI acts like North Korea, if Bumrah is teated and cleared, you will still not trust the results.
 
It's called self censorship. They know too much is at stake

You are accusing an entire organization without any proof. Amazing how moderators even allow such open blame game. Tells a lot about the state of the country this forum represents.
 
I'd call it " Slip of the tongue moment". We very well know what happened next, when she was made to apologies on live air, with chief BCCI Mouthpiece Shastri in presence.
Though I agree she need not apologise as it was a harmless comment but we live in a woke world. How come you are blaming BCCI for it? Now a days you cant make any comment that come across as sexist, racist and misogynist on tele as it is their policy. You should know it living in the UK
 
Fox Sports unveiled new tech on bowlers action analysis. However, they didnt display any angles on purpose. So, you cant really tell if its within the 15 degree limit for Bumrah or not. If they had displayed angles, it would have made this discussion very interesting because it is open to the public now.
 
Though I agree she need not apologise as it was a harmless comment but we live in a woke world. How come you are blaming BCCI for it? Now a days you cant make any comment that come across as sexist, racist and misogynist on tele as it is their policy. You should know it living in the UK

It seemed like she was in a interrogation process, under the observation of Shastri, and there was no need for Shastri to use the " straight from the horse's Mouth " slang, once she apologized.
 
At the same time I respect his skill because even for a chucker you need to be good to do it effectively, so out of all the illegal bowlers in the world, Jasprit is right up there.
Lol this guy uses Bhumrah when he needs to attack Rizwan and Babar and when not he slanders Bhumrah as well
Utterly terrible.
 
Bumrah’s fitness level is amazing. An inspiration to fast bowlers.

I would love know what he does to maintain it.
 
Just to be clear.

Jasprit Bumrah has never had his action tested for legality.

Any claims that he has “hyperextension” without straightening are completely unproven.

Any claim that his action has been cleared as legal is untrue.

What we have is a man with a suspicious action, who is protected by the world’s most powerful cricket board, as a result of which the legality of his action has never been tested, let alone cleared.
 
Just to be clear.

Jasprit Bumrah has never had his action tested for legality.

Any claims that he has “hyperextension” without straightening are completely unproven.

Any claim that his action has been cleared as legal is untrue.

What we have is a man with a suspicious action, who is protected by the world’s most powerful cricket board, as a result of which the legality of his action has never been tested, let alone cleared.

Just to be clear McGrath, Wasim, Steyn, Ambrose, Marshall, Garner never had their action tested for legality.

Any claim their action has been cleared as legal is untrue.

What we have is some of the ATG bowlers with dodgy action protected by fans and nostalgia masquerading as best bowlers ever without being tested for legality action.

Anyone can make any claims, just like the above claims hold 0 value, so does yours. Its job of umpires and match referees to report suspicious actions, hundreds of umpires/match referees haven’t reported Bumrah even once.

Just relax and enjoy the bowling, no need to get your blood pressure high with jealousy.
 
If you strongly believe he’s chucking then feel free to tag ICC and match referees on Twitter, file an official complaint with ICC and ask journos like @Saj to create an uproar about it and force ICC to test him.
 
Just to be clear McGrath, Wasim, Steyn, Ambrose, Marshall, Garner never had their action tested for legality.

Any claim their action has been cleared as legal is untrue.

What we have is some of the ATG bowlers with dodgy action protected by fans and nostalgia masquerading as best bowlers ever without being tested for legality action.

Anyone can make any claims, just like the above claims hold 0 value, so does yours. Its job of umpires and match referees to report suspicious actions, hundreds of umpires/match referees haven’t reported Bumrah even once.

Just relax and enjoy the bowling, no need to get your blood pressure high with jealousy.
None of those players had suspicious actions. Whereas any non-Indian with the action shown above would have been tested years ago.

There is clearly massive flexion. The onus should be on Bumrah to prove that there is not 15 degrees or more of straightening.
 
If you strongly believe he’s chucking then feel free to tag ICC and match referees on Twitter, file an official complaint with ICC and ask journos like @Saj to create an uproar about it and force ICC to test him.
It makes no difference currently.

Bumrah has Immunity from Testing.

Any cricket board which complains will find that India will tour less often, for shorter series, and the board will lose money from private Indian TV networks.
 
None of those players had suspicious actions. Whereas any non-Indian with the action shown above would have been tested years ago.

There is clearly massive flexion. The onus should be on Bumrah to prove that there is not 15 degrees or more of straightening.

The onus is not on the player to prove anything.

It’s your opinion he has a dodgy action just like it can be my opinion that all the players I mentioned have dodgy action.

Your opinion means zilch just like my opinion.

Hundreds of umpires across the world and match referees do not share the same opinion as yours, just like no umpire/match referee shares the same opinion as mine of McGrath, Wasim etc having dodgy action.

So instead of ranting and increasing your blood pressure in old age, you have 2 options:

1. Mentioned in my previous post.
2. Enjoy the bowling masterclass of bumrah till it lasts.
 
Just to be clear McGrath, Wasim, Steyn, Ambrose, Marshall, Garner never had their action tested for legality.

Any claim their action has been cleared as legal is untrue.

What we have is some of the ATG bowlers with dodgy action protected by fans and nostalgia masquerading as best bowlers ever without being tested for legality action.

Anyone can make any claims, just like the above claims hold 0 value, so does yours. Its job of umpires and match referees to report suspicious actions, hundreds of umpires/match referees haven’t reported Bumrah even once.

Just relax and enjoy the bowling, no need to get your blood pressure high with jealousy.
The rules were changed after Murali. The umpires can no longer call chucked deliveries.

In effect, and umpire, referee or cricket board administrator who reports Bumrah will ensure that India ends their career and earning ability immediately.

India could pick Tony Lock and Ian Meckiff to open the bowling and they still wouldn’t get reported or sent for testing!
 
It makes no difference currently.

Bumrah has Immunity from Testing.

Any cricket board which complains will find that India will tour less often, for shorter series, and the board will lose money from private Indian TV networks.

Why should cricket boards complain?

The complain should be done by umpires/match referees.

It’s not the job of cricket board to complain. It’s the job of umpires and match referees.
Are you saying all the umpires and match referees that bumrah have played under (in hundreds if not thousands) are all scared of BCCI or are incompetent?
Only Junaids hawk like eyesight detected bumrah has a dodgy action from watching it in his television screen and he is a fearless warrior who isn’t scared of BCCI and called it out?

Interesting take
 
The rules were changed after Murali. The umpires can no longer call chucked deliveries.

In effect, and umpire, referee or cricket board administrator who reports Bumrah will ensure that India ends their career and earning ability immediately.

India could pick Tony Lock and Ian Meckiff to open the bowling and they still wouldn’t get reported or sent for testing!

Calling a no ball on field and filing and official complaint are two different things.

So basically, your stand is that everyone is scared, incompetent and corrupt.
Why do you even watch such a sport then where the officials are all corrupt/incompetent/scared?

Better off watching other sports which you believe are fair play.
 
The onus is not on the player to prove anything.

It’s your opinion he has a dodgy action just like it can be my opinion that all the players I mentioned have dodgy action.

Your opinion means zilch just like my opinion.

Hundreds of umpires across the world and match referees do not share the same opinion as yours, just like no umpire/match referee shares the same opinion as mine of McGrath, Wasim etc having dodgy action.

So instead of ranting and increasing your blood pressure in old age, you have 2 options:

1. Mentioned in my previous post.
2. Enjoy the bowling masterclass of bumrah till it lasts.
Funny you should say that.

I’m enjoying watching Bumrah’s skill, just as I enjoyed:

1. Watching Saeed Ajmal, when we all knew he was chucking but he was doing so gloriously. Like Bumrah, he’d been a nobody until he was in his mid-20’s, when he suddenly became a world beater.

2. Watching Flo-Jo break the world 100m and 200m records at the Seoul Olympics, when she’d been a nobody until she was nearly 30.

3. Watching Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis and Linford Christie compete in the dirtiest race in history in 1988.

I get exactly the same emotions watching Bumrah as watching Saeed Ajmal. Extraordinary skill, but how are clean cricketers supposed to have a career when certain bowlers are allowed to chuck?
 
Just to be clear.

Jasprit Bumrah has never had his action tested for legality.

Any claims that he has “hyperextension” without straightening are completely unproven.

Any claim that his action has been cleared as legal is untrue.

What we have is a man with a suspicious action, who is protected by the world’s most powerful cricket board, as a result of which the legality of his action has never been tested, let alone cleared.

Also true is that Pakistani supporters words have ZERO value. ZILCH!
 
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Also true is that Pakistani supporters words have ZERO value. ZILCH!


And I can assure you that in all three countries, Bumrah is viewed with an asterisk. Hugely talented bowler, but with a suspect action.
 
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See my attached photo above

If that action doesn’t get tested, than how can any, ever?
The picture you provided are the ones posted by online trolls on Cricinfo comments section i.e doctored image.
 
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And I can assure you that in all three countries, Bumrah is viewed with an asterisk. Hugely talented bowler, but with a suspect action.


I'll believe the day some respected former cricketer questions his action. In fact, Greg Chappell very recently completely shut down anyone and everyone saying that his action is completely clean.​
 
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Just to be clear.

Jasprit Bumrah has never had his action tested for legality.

Any claims that he has “hyperextension” without straightening are completely unproven.

Any claim that his action has been cleared as legal is untrue.

What we have is a man with a suspicious action, who is protected by the world’s most powerful cricket board, as a result of which the legality of his action has never been tested, let alone cleared.

Yes. This is my view also. Great post.

Both Shoaib Akthar and Murali had hyperextensions and they both got cleared after getting tested. Why can't Bumrah get tested? Why should he get a free pass?
 
And I can assure you that in all three countries, Bumrah is viewed with an asterisk. Hugely talented bowler, but with a suspect action.

ohhh yeah .... is that why none of the umpires from those countries have reported his action across many many matches ? Or how about any of the numerous media houses covering this very high profile series ? Perhaps the BCCI has threatened to castrate them ? that should cover everything ehh ?
 
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I'll believe the day some respected former cricketer questions his action. In fact, Greg Chappell very recently completely shut down anyone and everyone saying that his action is completely clean.​
You have literally just confirmed my point.

Nobody can measure extension/flexion with the naked eye. Including former Team India Coach Greg Chappell.

The only way to be sure that Bumrah is clean is to subject him to the same testing that Shoaib Akhtar and Murali went through.

Not tested = Not cleared as Legal
 
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ohhh yeah .... is that why none of the umpires from those countries have reported his action ? Or any of the numerous media houses covering this very high profile series
Don't you know the whole cricketing world is under BCCI's payroll? The only neutral and unbiased people in the cricketing world and Pakistani cricket fans and those who support Pakistan cricket.
 
Funny you should say that.

I’m enjoying watching Bumrah’s skill, just as I enjoyed:

1. Watching Saeed Ajmal, when we all knew he was chucking but he was doing so gloriously. Like Bumrah, he’d been a nobody until he was in his mid-20’s, when he suddenly became a world beater.

2. Watching Flo-Jo break the world 100m and 200m records at the Seoul Olympics, when she’d been a nobody until she was nearly 30.

3. Watching Ben Johnson and Carl Lewis and Linford Christie compete in the dirtiest race in history in 1988.

I get exactly the same emotions watching Bumrah as watching Saeed Ajmal. Extraordinary skill, but how are clean cricketers supposed to have a career when certain bowlers are allowed to chuck?

Again you are comparing apples to oranges.
All those people were caught doing something which was illegal as per the laws of their respective sports.

Bumrah has never been reported by the people who are supposed to (umpires/referees).

A lot of people think Usain Bolt took PED as it’s not natural to run that fast, their opinions don’t mean zilch. Same way as your opinions don’t matter on Bumrah.

Now if you actually believe cricket is a corrupt sport then stop watching it.
 
Having a suspect action is when umpires call you for chucking.

Umpires not calling a bowler for chucking = The bowler not having a suspect action.


Because there is empirical evidence as to how upright, unbiased they are and ofcourse their cricketing nous was never ever in doubt.
 
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Pragyan Ojha, look for that name.
Funny you should raise Ojha.

His case confirmed a long-held suspicion: the Indians privately test bowlers either suspicious actions. If they fail narrowly they are sent for remedial work. If they fail badly they are basically hidden away from ICC testing.

I suspect that India privately had Bumrah tested around 5-7 years ago. And that for reasons I don’t want to state, they concluded that the best way forward was to ensure that he never have independent ICC testing.

It would be so easy to say “we have tested him, his straightening is 12 degrees which is below the 15 degree maximum. So he’s definitely legal.”

But they don’t.

They prefer to play on with all the rumours and innuendo rather than take the risk of him failing testing.
 
I’m surprised the Convict Pom Hobbit hasn’t ever suspected Brett Lee with similar eyes.
The PM of Aus had to make a comment for Brett Lee when he was questioned
I did think Brett Lee’s action was suspect, to be honest. But not being Asian, I can’t clear a bowler’s action with the naked eye! :)
 
I did think Brett Lee’s action was suspect, to be honest. But not being Asian, I can’t clear a bowler’s action with the naked eye! :)


Also what did the three countries think of Brett Lee’s wickets?
 
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None of those players had suspicious actions. Whereas any non-Indian with the action shown above would have been tested years ago.

There is clearly massive flexion. The onus should be on Bumrah to prove that there is not 15 degrees or more of straightening.

Bumrah doesn't need to prove anything to pakistanis.
 
Having a suspect action is when umpires call you for chucking.

Umpires not calling a bowler for chucking = The bowler not having a suspect action.
International umpires are not allowed to call a bowler for chucking any more. The playing conditions for international cricket no longer permit them to.
 
Funny you should raise Ojha.

His case confirmed a long-held suspicion: the Indians privately test bowlers either suspicious actions. If they fail narrowly they are sent for remedial work. If they fail badly they are basically hidden away from ICC testing.

I suspect that India privately had Bumrah tested around 5-7 years ago. And that for reasons I don’t want to state, they concluded that the best way forward was to ensure that he never have independent ICC testing.

It would be so easy to say “we have tested him, his straightening is 12 degrees which is below the 15 degree maximum. So he’s definitely legal.”

But they don’t.

They prefer to play on with all the rumours and innuendo rather than take the risk of him failing testing.
Blah, blah, blah ... if you want to be taken seriously, back up your claims with facts, not what you think of your own. Suspicion? Who raised the suspicion? I've never heard an ex cricketer raise such a suspicion. What you have typed are your personal beliefs, which matters zilch to anyone else.​
 
Did you ever question it , if so please direct us to that post.

Also what did the three countries think of Brett Lee’s wickets? Did they have a *?
I wasn’t on this site at the time.

Brett Lee was a nobody who averaged 31 for his 310 Test wickets.

Unlike Bumrah, he wasn’t a match winner. So I don’t think too many Pom’s or Kiwis worried about him, given that they had McGrath or Warne to worry about at the other end!
 
I wasn’t on this site at the time.

Brett Lee was a nobody who averaged 31 for his 310 Test wickets.

Unlike Bumrah, he wasn’t a match winner. So I don’t think too many Pom’s or Kiwis worried about him, given that they had McGrath or Warne to worry about at the other end!
310 wickets is a lot .. so seems like according to you Poms and Kiwis don’t question white bowlers.
 
Typical Indian fans. Trying to deflect attention to other players now (Brett Lee).

I personally don't think Brett Lee is a chucker. He had a clean action. Beautiful action. Not creepy like Bumrah's action.
 
As they are told to. My opinion is followed by many. I got the laws of Rugby changed with the 20 min red card and I may not succeed on this but we won't be silenced until he is tested.

Fox sports is jointly owned by News Corp and Telstra. Do you have any idea what they are?

Bumrah has bowled in SA, did Super sports owned by Naspers censor itself?

Did Sky Sports in UK owned Comcast also censor itself?
 
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310 wickets is a lot .. so seems like according to you Poms and Kiwis don’t question white bowlers.
I’m pretty sure that in the last hour I referenced Ian Meckiff and Tony Lock, so try again! :)
 
I’m pretty sure that in the last hour I referenced Ian Meckiff and Tony Lock, so try again! :)
Yeah but not someone who has 310 wickets to his name and WC..in that logic Asians talk about Ojha too
 
That's because he uses a weird action. I bet he couldn't swing it with a conventional legal action.
Yeah dude, even less so if he were to bowl with his left hand. Or bowl with his left hand while holding a ham sandwich in his right, and wearing a jason mask. if people were different they would do different things. that is the crux of what you said. insightful stuff bro. what's next? fire would be cooler if it were hot? water would be sweeter if it were sugar?
 
Fox sports is jointly owned by News Corp and Telstra. Do you have any idea what they are?

Bumrah has bowled in SA, did Super sports owned by Naspers censor itself?

Did Sky Sports in UK owned Comcast also censor itself?
All these companies work together and produce cricket. Tell me why the commentators couldn't comment on the barge until Vaughan had the courage?
 
All these companies work together and produce cricket. Tell me why the commentators couldn't comment on the barge until Vaughan had the courage?

Which commentators?

The commentators i was listening to called it unnecessary. Ravi Shastri had already criticized it. So had ponting.

Telestra or News Corp or Naspers or Comcast are different companies of different nations. They are not a cartel.

Companies with market cap of billions of dollars and revenues of billions are not afraid of BCCI.

Everyone isn't small time players Geo or ARY who as per pakistanis themselves run agendas
 
Which commentators?

The commentators i was listening to called it unnecessary. Ravi Shastri had already criticized it. So had ponting.

Telestra or News Corp or Naspers or Comcast are different companies of different nations. They are not a cartel.

Companies with market cap of billions of dollars and revenues of billions are not afraid of BCCI.

Everyone isn't small time players Geo or ARY who as per pakistanis themselves run agendas
All after Vaughan called it as it is. I was fuming at what he had done and I don't even have a dog in the fight. The commentators are forced to self censor because of the fear of the BCCI.
I don't watch any PK commentators bar the odd opinion posted on here. I don't rate any of them.
 
All after Vaughan called it as it is. I was fuming at what he had done and I don't even have a dog in the fight. The commentators are forced to self censor because of the fear of the BCCI.
I don't watch any PK commentators bar the odd opinion posted on here. I don't rate any of them.

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Commentators on air at that time called it.

No one not even BCCI can force companies like Comcast or Naspers or News Corp to censor itself. I doubt even a government can pull that off.

You think everyone works like media companies in Pakistan.
 
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Commentators on air at that time called it.

No one not even BCCI can force companies like Comcast or Naspers or News Corp to censor itself. I doubt even a government can pull that off.

You think everyone works like media companies in Pakistan.
They were scared and mealy mouthed until Vaughan called it and then on his shoulders they realised they would look stupid.
 
Oh really?

And that was confirmed by scientific testing?

Because in the absence of testing that is a made-up excuse, not a proven fact.
If Umpires think it is not clean, they will report it. They haven't so far, so it is clean.
 
Typical Indian fans. Trying to deflect attention to other players now (Brett Lee).

I personally don't think Brett Lee is a chucker. He had a clean action. Beautiful action. Not creepy like Bumrah's action.
I agree. He should be banned. And akthar actually had real hyper extension cause he was tested. Also I think bumrah takes steroids. I don't see how someone wigh such short run-up can bowl 140.

And also Lee was the greatest express bowler.
 
I’m surprised the Convict Pom Hobbit hasn’t ever suspected Brett Lee with similar eyes.
The PM of Aus had to make a comment for Brett Lee when he was questioned
Unctuous platitudinous sycophant.
 
I agree. He should be banned. And akthar actually had real hyper extension cause he was tested. Also I think bumrah takes steroids. I don't see how someone wigh such short run-up can bowl 140.

And also Lee was the greatest express bowler.
You are right.You can’t generate high pace with a vey short run up.Bumrah is chucking and he may be taking a banned substance.
 
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