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Does Jasprit Bumrah have a legal action?

This whole situation is funny.

When Shoaib Akhtar used to bowl with hyperextension in elbows, a ton of Indians would come out and call it illegal.

Now they’re using the exact same “hyperextension” argument to justify how it’s perfectly legal in Bumrah’s case, even if it’s an advantage.

Well technically it is legal and allowed and what a destructive bowler the world got to see in the form of Shoaib Akhtar.

Now no Indian these days brings up the hyperextension point whenever discussing Akhtar because they know it’ll be like throwing eggs on their own faces lol.


Anyway Bumrah is a top bowler, maybe one day he could reach the level of Shoaib Akhtar too but age is not on his side.
Hardly anyone in cricket knew about hyper extension in early 2000s. That's why Shoaib was tested.

But ICC went into detailed research and now every one knows about it.

Its a genetic thing. Just like people have more fast twitch fibres at birth that helps athletes. Some have hyper extension.

People's views change with knowledge. If Bumrah was bowling in 90s he would have been reported too.


Bumrah is a top bowler. He has left behind every fast bowler from asia except Wasim Akram.
 
Let him pass Shoaib Akhtar first.
Shami is better than shoaib

Shoaib is better than waqar.

Waqar is nothing for bumrah

Bumrah better than waaim. Wasim only ahead in terms of longevity.

In wasims own words he admitted bumrah is better. I guess wasim doesn't know a thing about fast bowling. Cause he is a scrub bowler.
 
I won't even dignify his comment with an answer.
Pakistan are slitting wrists cause now they lost the best Asian bowler title to an Indian. Must sting. It should and it will for a long time.
 
Pakistan are slitting wrists cause now they lost the best Asian bowler title to an Indian. Must sting. It should and it will for a long time.

Now if some Indian breaks the speed record. PP will go into full mourning.
 
Wasim is a humble man which is why he said Bumrah is better
then why dint he say that about any other bowler. he never would. not just akram. even others in the panel show agreed. and also bumble and even atherton lel. and nasser hussain.
 
then why dint he say that about any other bowler. he never would. not just akram. even others in the panel show agreed. and also bumble and even atherton lel. and nasser hussain.

Wasim said that about Jimmy Anderson. Hailed him the Greatest swing bowler ever
 
Recency bias.
I could say the same for you guys
Nostalgia. Works both ways.

Wasim bumrah are easily the best bowlers from Asia ever. Infact Asian bowlers should be rated higher as they bowl on shitty pitches at home.
 
No, and this isn’t a discussion worth having with any Indian.

Y’all…. - I don’t know what y’all are anymore.
ok remain nostalgic. wasim himself says he is better, so who are you then? and just remember marshal had roberts garner and holding for support. asian teams dint have that luxury apart from india during 2015 to 2022.

and when the 2 W's played together.
 
I could say the same for you guys
Nostalgia. Works both ways.

Wasim bumrah are easily the best bowlers from Asia ever. Infact Asian bowlers should be rated higher as they bowl on shitty pitches at home.
It’s the shitty wickets at home that have allowed Ashwin and Jadeja to have the career that they have had.
 
It’s the shitty wickets at home that have allowed Ashwin and Jadeja to have the career that they have had.
jadeja and ash both helpedindia win in aus not once, twice. same aussie team that butchered everyone else at home

and they did well in england too in the last series overall.

and SA and nz are known pitch tamperers particularly when asian teams play.
 
ok remain nostalgic. wasim himself says he is better, so who are you then? and just remember marshal had roberts garner and holding for support. asian teams dint have that luxury apart from india during 2015 to 2022.

and when the 2 W's played together.

You don’t want me to dwell on nostalgia, yet you bring up Marshal.

Wasim doesn’t play anymore, so nostalgia becomes necessary.

Yea! He is better than current lot but let’s not get carried away.
 
You don’t want me to dwell on nostalgia, yet you bring up Marshal.

Wasim doesn’t play anymore, so nostalgia becomes necessary.

Yea! He is better than current lot but let’s not get carried away.
cause you brought up recency bias
 
cause you brought up recency bias

Your entire argument is rooted in bias.

I’m not discrediting Bumrah. I believe he’s one of the best among the current players. However, he’s not in the same league as Wasim, Marshall, McGrath, or Asif. Those four could make the ball truly ‘talk,’ while Bumrah primarily relies on bringing the ball into right handed batsmen. That said, he’s still a great bowler.
 
Your entire argument is rooted in bias.

I’m not discrediting Bumrah. I believe he’s one of the best among the current players. However, he’s not in the same league as Wasim, Marshall, McGrath, or Asif. Those four could make the ball truly ‘talk,’ while Bumrah primarily relies on bringing the ball into right handed batsmen. That said, he’s still a great bowler.
hahahahah asif. ok this conversation ends here. and no he has left asif wasim shoaib waqar all for dead. sorry
have a good day.

not one of the best. he is the best. period
 
Your entire argument is rooted in bias.

I’m not discrediting Bumrah. I believe he’s one of the best among the current players. However, he’s not in the same league as Wasim, Marshall, McGrath, or Asif. Those four could make the ball truly ‘talk,’ while Bumrah primarily relies on bringing the ball into right handed batsmen. That said, he’s still a great bowler.

Asif? Lol. He is known for fixing. Nothing more.

Bumrah has 200 plus test wickets @19.5. He continues on this path for hundred more wickets, he will surpass Wasim Akram.
 
The greatest bowler of all time in league of mcgrath, marshall ,hadlee,steyn he’s far ahead than any subcontinent fast bolwer if you combine wasim+waqar still bumrah will be more deadly alone compared to them average 20 strike best among fast bowlers now whomever wanna cry ,can cry all his life.
 
hahahahah asif. ok this conversation ends here. and no he has left asif wasim shoaib waqar all for dead. sorry
have a good day.

not one of the best. he is the best. period

Well, I should’ve known better.

Enjoy!
 
Well, I should’ve known better.

Enjoy!
wasim has longevity. asif was not good enough.
bumrah impact wise has been better than all asian bowlers.
if he keeps this up for 3 more years then he surpasses wasim even though he is ahead in terms of impact already. he just needs 20 30 odd more tests to account for longevity.
 
Well, I should’ve known better.

Enjoy!
Wasim
Your entire argument is rooted in bias.

I’m not discrediting Bumrah. I believe he’s one of the best among the current players. However, he’s not in the same league as Wasim, Marshall, McGrath, or Asif. Those four could make the ball truly ‘talk,’ while Bumrah primarily relies on bringing the ball into right handed batsmen. That said, he’s still a great bowler.
omg such a delusional guy placed wasim and asim( nobody a trundler and fixer) among league of marshall and mcgrath and bumrah pls stop it before icc ban cricket in pakistan
 
Asif? Lol. He is known for fixing. Nothing more.

That’s a separate discussion, but your focus here seems to be defending India rather than engaging in a merit based discussion. This is why you introduced an irrelevant point to score brownie points.
 
1 major injury changes everything for a fast bowler. While I pray for him, I'd silently sit back and enjoy watching him until he reaches (hopefully) 350 Test wickets. Then we can put all arguments to rest.
 
That’s a separate discussion, but your focus here seems to be defending India rather than engaging in a merit based discussion. This is why you introduced an irrelevant point to score brownie points.
problem is wasim himself says he is better
stats speak for themeselves. sure i dont always go by stats either.
but impact wise too he has been better

only thing bumrah is missing is longevity. wasim is a lenged obiously. but bumrah is breathing down his neck. a few more good performances over the next 3 years and its over tbh.

right now as things stand

wasim
bumrah
imran
shami
waqar
shoaib

thats the order.
 
That’s a separate discussion, but your focus here seems to be defending India rather than engaging in a merit based discussion. This is why you introduced an irrelevant point to score brownie points.

If you say presently Wasim Akram or McGrath or Marshall are ahead of Bumrah. I will agree because they all have 300 plus test wickets and hence longevity. And to be ATG that's essential.

But if you think Asif is anywhere near this discussion either you are delusional or just trolling.
 
Your entire argument is rooted in bias.

I’m not discrediting Bumrah. I believe he’s one of the best among the current players. However, he’s not in the same league as Wasim, Marshall, McGrath, or Asif. Those four could make the ball truly ‘talk,’ while Bumrah primarily relies on bringing the ball into right handed batsmen. That said, he’s still a great bowler.
I'm an Asif fan. He was an artistic bowler and I have plenty of posts here on this.

But lol. Please don't mention him in the same breath as McGrath or Wasim. Also, Marshall is not in their league either, leave alone Asif. You don't like Bumrah for whatever reason, that's fine.

But not Asif 😹
 
1 major injury changes everything for a fast bowler. While I pray for him, I'd silently sit back and enjoy watching him until he reaches (hopefully) 350 Test wickets. Then we can put all arguments to rest.

He is 31. He won't play white ball outside IPL and ICC events.

That's why i have hope.
 
Bumrah could never bowl the kind of delivery that dismissed Dravid in India by Wasim, nor could he replicate the magic Asif produced in Karachi to trouble Indian batsmen.

Bowlers like Wasim, Asif, and McGrath belong to an elite group capable of making the ball move both ways with incredible precision.

Bumrah, due to his unique action, is limited to wicket to wicket deliveries and primarily bringing the ball into the batsman.

Indians, driven by unhealthy patriotism, often overrate Bumrah. However, outside of India, no one would ever rank him above Wasim or even Asif, despite Asif’s short career.
 
I'm an Asif fan. He was an artistic bowler and I have plenty of posts here on this.

But lol. Please don't mention him in the same breath as McGrath or Wasim. Also, Marshall is not in their league either, leave alone Asif. You don't like Bumrah for whatever reason, that's fine.

But not Asif 😹

You are short selling Marshall.

Btw on PP its a trend to big up a Pakistani on the basis of what if.

Happened with Amir, but then his mediocrity in tests was exposed.

Happens still with Zahid.

And most with Asif.
 
I'm an Asif fan. He was an artistic bowler and I have plenty of posts here on this.

But lol. Please don't mention him in the same breath as McGrath or Wasim. Also, Marshall is not in their league either, leave alone Asif. You don't like Bumrah for whatever reason, that's fine.

But not Asif 😹

Search highlights to refresh your memory.
 
I'm an Asif fan. He was an artistic bowler and I have plenty of posts here on this.

But lol. Please don't mention him in the same breath as McGrath or Wasim. Also, Marshall is not in their league either, leave alone Asif. You don't like Bumrah for whatever reason, that's fine.

But not Asif 😹

I like Bumrah, I think he is a great bowler, the best in current lot.
 
Bumrah could never bowl the kind of delivery that dismissed Dravid in India by Wasim, nor could he replicate the magic Asif produced in Karachi to trouble Indian batsmen.

Bowlers like Wasim, Asif, and McGrath belong to an elite group capable of making the ball move both ways with incredible precision.

Bumrah, due to his unique action, is limited to wicket to wicket deliveries and primarily bringing the ball into the batsman.

Indians, driven by unhealthy patriotism, often overrate Bumrah. However, outside of India, no one would ever rank him above Wasim or even Asif, despite Asif’s short career.

No one ranks Asif anywhere except in Fixing and going to jail.

Australians and English experts are going gaga over Bumrah not Asif.

Next time watch the game, because your posts say you have no idea about what Bumrah does.

Open a thread on Bumrah vs Asif.
 
You are short selling Marshall.

Btw on PP its a trend to big up a Pakistani on the basis of what if.

Happened with Amir, but then his mediocrity in tests was exposed.

Happens still with Zahid.

And most with Asif.
I'm pretty sure Marshall (if he were alive), McGrath and Akram would sue that poster for having the audacity to take Asif's name alongside them. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Asif will always be known for his match fixing and spending time in UK jail.
 
Asif avgd
I'm pretty sure Marshall (if he were alive), McGrath and Akram would sue that poster for having the audacity to take Asif's name alongside them. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Any honest cricketer would sue if his name is taken along side a fixer.
 
No one ranks Asif anywhere except in Fixing and going to jail.

Australians and English experts are going gaga over Bumrah not Asif.

Next time watch the game, because your posts say you have no idea about what Bumrah does.

Open a thread on Bumrah vs Asif.

Again, separate issue.

Amd who is that no one? Can you name the few? And then I’ll name few who rank Asif as the best they have faced.
 
Asif avgd


Any honest cricketer would sue if his name is taken along side a fixer.
Asif is a part of folklore in Pakistan as the most talented of all time. Talent there ofcourse is defined by exaggerated praise for a particular delivery and most importantly, the green shirt.
 
I'm following my own advice.

Pakistanis have produced some Bonafide greats of Cricket.

There is a strong case that Bumrah isn't ahead of Wasim Akram yet.

But desperate pakistanis bring a fixer like Asif into discussion. Asif was very avg in 3 out of 6 countries he played in.

Long time back i had said on PP, that in future this Afridi fan following will make pakistanis hype up mediocrity.
 
Thread is not about FIXING AND MODI.. IT IS ABOUT bUMRAH'S ACTION. KEEP YOUR POSTS RELEVANT NOW
 
Your entire argument is rooted in bias.

I’m not discrediting Bumrah. I believe he’s one of the best among the current players. However, he’s not in the same league as Wasim, Marshall, McGrath, or Asif. Those four could make the ball truly ‘talk,’ while Bumrah primarily relies on bringing the ball into right handed batsmen. That said, he’s still a great bowler.

Thats just not true at all .... just watch the ongoing MCG test. He got 3 wkts with the away going ball or the one coming into the left hander. infact he is taken quite a few wkts like that across the series. Just watch the match it is just exhilarating to watch Bumrah bowl.

When a bowler avg well under 20 across 200 wkts at a strike rate well under 45 thats super GOAT territory. And EVERY single cricket commentator is in awe of his skills.
 
Thats just not true at all .... just watch the ongoing MCG test. He got 3 wkts with the away going ball or the one coming into the left hander. infact he is taken quite a few wkts like that across the series. Just watch the match it is just exhilarating to watch Bumrah bowl.

When a bowler avg well under 20 across 200 wkts at a strike rate well under 45 thats super GOAT territory. And EVERY single cricket commentator is in awe of his skills.

Everyone is in awe of Asif's skil. Not Bumrah.
 
Indian fans should not get too mad at Pakistani fans for merely suggesting Bumrah get tested at least. I have seen many Grandmaster accuse even other top Grandmaster in Chess. Even in Olympics medals gets taken away after careful review in some cases.

The thing about Bumrah is he seems to be threatening even when he is tired and trundling around 130k. He is maestro with awesome skill but at the same time I believe his hyperextension is also giving him significant advantage.
 
200 Test wickets at the lowest average. What a bowler. And did it without any bottle caps, nandrolone/steroids or horrendous chucking . Not a fixer either.

Certain nations simply don't have bowlers in their entire history who werent guilty of any of the above .

Class both on and off the pitch.
 
Pakistanis live in their own fantasy world. Especially on days like today after epic defeat, so they go on nostalgia route.

Asif? Really? LOL

Had M.Amir never came back to cricket, these fans would have hyped him up the same way.

As I have said before and mostly when Rajdeep speaks it tends to be true, Bumrah is better than any Pakistani fast bowler in their entire cricket history. It includes - Sarfaraz Nawaz, Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis and Sohaib Akhtar. None of these bowlers had the same skillset as Bumrah and none of them have done what Bumrah is doing at present in Australia. I was reading many comments in social media and many Aussies are saying they have not seen a better fast bowler on their shore since 1970 when West Indies toured there.

The only question is how long Bumrah could sustain it considering the taxing nature of modern cricket plus IPL. But as of now he is better than all of them, let alone Asif the fraud trundler...Lol.
 
Indian fans should not get too mad at Pakistani fans for merely suggesting Bumrah get tested at least. I have seen many Grandmaster accuse even other top Grandmaster in Chess. Even in Olympics medals gets taken away after careful review in some cases.

The thing about Bumrah is he seems to be threatening even when he is tired and trundling around 130k. He is maestro with awesome skill but at the same time I believe his hyperextension is also giving him significant advantage.

That suggestion is out of jealousy. Pls tell me what hyperextension Ashwin had? He was called a chucker and been asked to be tested for years here. It was the time when Ajmal got banned and he was at his prime. So it is pretty evident some people not able to digest moment any Indian bowler does well.

Bumrah will not get tested bcoz Pakistani fans are asking for it. It don't work that way. He will only get tested if Umpires call him which they havent done. Also if he gets tested and cleared, same set of fans will cry about BCCIs influence.
 
Thats just not true at all .... just watch the ongoing MCG test. He got 3 wkts with the away going ball or the one coming into the left hander. infact he is taken quite a few wkts like that across the series. Just watch the match it is just exhilarating to watch Bumrah bowl.

When a bowler avg well under 20 across 200 wkts at a strike rate well under 45 thats super GOAT territory. And EVERY single cricket commentator is in awe of his skills.

Can he swing the ball like McGrath and Wasim - No!

Is he great? Absolutely yes, his avg is great? Yes, is he a better bowler than McGrath and Wasim? no, will he ever be? No!
 
200 Test wickets at the lowest average. What a bowler. And did it without any bottle caps, nandrolone/steroids or horrendous chucking . Not a fixer either.

Certain nations simply don't have bowlers in their entire history who werent guilty of any of the above .

Class both on and off the pitch.
Shameful day for cricket when chuckers like Murali Bumra go past proper cricketers like Warne Marshall Ambrose’s records.
 
Can he swing the ball like McGrath and Wasim - No!

Is he great? Absolutely yes, his avg is great? Yes, is he a better bowler than McGrath and Wasim? no, will he ever be? No!
Do you watch the game?

Bumrah’s swings both ways and his inswingers move a mile due to his action (a bit hyperbole here but its fine for Bumrah)

What separates great bowlers is not by the amount of swing they produce but by the control. And Bumrah has one of the highest strike-rates during 1-10 overs because he swings both ways with impeccable control.

And Bumrah has toe-crushing yorkers like W’s. But batters are better equipped for yorkers these days. Thats why you don't see them much often.

Skill-wise, he has everything that Mcgrath and Wasim has. The banana swing went away the moment bottle caps are removed from the game.

The only question is longevity here. Bumrah is picking 6-8 wickets per match these days. In 4 test matches in BCG he has 29 wickets. If BCCI manages well, he will play another 2 WTC playing 25+ tests atleast and may well cross the 300 wickets barrier. But until then, longevity argument is valid.

But one has to consider T20 wickets too as it has also become the bread and butter for players these days.
 
Can he swing the ball like McGrath and Wasim - No!

Is he great? Absolutely yes, his avg is great? Yes, is he a better bowler than McGrath and Wasim? no, will he ever be? No!
Shifting goal post now ? lol


McGrath was not a swing bowler. He was predominantly a metronomical line and length type bowler who got his wkts through pure accuracy rather than any magical abilities. If you watch Bumrah bowl the only way to describe is that he makes the ball talk.
 
Shifting goal post now ? lol


McGrath was not a swing bowler. He was predominantly a metronomical line and length type bowler who got his wkts through pure accuracy rather than any magical abilities. If you watch Bumrah bowl the only way to describe is that he makes the ball talk.

Well your completely clueless then, if you think Mcgrath relied just on accuracy.

He had a excellent skill set with that accuracy. Leg cutters, off cutters, reverse swing, got steepling bounce, and had a wicked bouncer which was very deceptive.
 
Bumrah has been the singular comforting presence in this wretched Indian test team blighted by Kohli and Rohit.
 
He needs to be tested. Scaring the media into not talking about him won't keep the non Ind fans happy. It will hurt his legacy.

Aussie commentators are talking about his hyper extension. Explaining it again and again and how it helps him.

No one will call him on the basis of the opinion of PP fans. Unless he is called he won't be tested.
 
Can he swing the ball like McGrath and Wasim - No!

Is he great? Absolutely yes, his avg is great? Yes, is he a better bowler than McGrath and Wasim? no, will he ever be? No!

You don't need to be a swing bowler to be greater than someone lmao. What a stupid criteria
 
He needs to be tested. Scaring the media into not talking about him won't keep the non Ind fans happy. It will hurt his legacy.

Vast majority of Aussie fans don't question his action on their forums either.

Seems like most of the " non Inds " questioning are Pakistanis or British Pakistanis.
 
Vast majority of Aussie fans don't question his action on their forums either.

Seems like most of the " non Inds " questioning are Pakistanis or British Pakistanis.
Generally The fans follow their media The Aussie media are scared of the BCCI. We know this after Kohli barged Konstas and not a word until Michael Vaughan spoke up.
 
Aussie commentators are talking about his hyper extension. Explaining it again and again and how it helps him.

No one will call him on the basis of the opinion of PP fans. Unless he is called he won't be tested.
As they are told to. My opinion is followed by many. I got the laws of Rugby changed with the 20 min red card and I may not succeed on this but we won't be silenced until he is tested.
 
As they are told to. My opinion is followed by many. I got the laws of Rugby changed with the 20 min red card and I may not succeed on this but we won't be silenced until he is tested.

How do you know they are told to? Were you there to listen?

The other day you were saying with a straight face Bumrah is a chucker as if you have some proof.

You tend to think too highly of yourself. Unlike @IMMY69 , I wont call you jealous. Its just that you are highly delusional...I have noticed in political threads as well.
 
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