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Does Pakistan have a moral responsibility to accept Muslim refugees from India if necessary?

Does Pakistan have a moral responsibility to accept Muslim refugees from India if necessary?

  • Yes, Pakistan should open its doors for Muslim refugees from India

    Votes: 14 60.9%

  • No, Pakistan cannot accept any more refugees and others should help

    Votes: 9 39.1%
  • Total voters
    23
MenInG

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Whilst many would say its impractical, it it not logical that we as a nation of Muslims open our doors to our brother and sisters who are expelled from India due to the CAB?
 
there would be no Pakistan if majority of muslims (living in current India) had not voted for Muslim League in 1946 elections under British Raj.
 
Indian Muslims will never choose Pakistan over India.

Only Rohingyas will probably choose Pakistan. But they do not fit in well with Pakistanis. They are different stock. They belong to Bangladesh.

May be Pakistan can convince China to accept some of the Rohingyas. China is very close to Burma.
 
Considering so much concern shown by Pakistanis ideally they should open doors for the Indian Muslims but no they prefer them to create anarchy in India and get beaten by Hindu Mobs / Forces - which is where it will head towards in coming days.

Guess it easier to be cheerleader and encourage Muslims to fight against Hindus in India than sharing resoucres with them.
 
MenInG said:
Whilst many would say its impractical, it it not logical that we as a nation of Muslims open our doors to our brother and sisters who are expelled from India due to the CAB?
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Partiton was not logical in the first place. From Islamic POV, all India should be under Shariah law, partitions are only for secular Muslims and Hindus. True Hindutvas and Muslamics would never accept it.
 
Sorry in advance for answering a very separate question. I'm not a Muslim but belong to a minority in India. In a hypothetical scenario, if I am given a choice, I will chose India a billion times over Pakistan - a troubled state with even worse conditions for minorities.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Sorry in advance for answering a very separate question. I'm not a Muslim but belong to a minority in India. In a hypothetical scenario, if I am given a choice, I will chose India a billion times over Pakistan - a troubled state with even worse conditions for minorities.
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Sweet! :))
 
Not at all. Indian Muslims decided to stay back despite the warnings from Jinnah.
Indian Muslims don’t want anything to do with Pakistan so it’s their battle, not ours.
 
No. They chose India as their nation 72 years ago. They belong to India and they should solve their problems there, not in another country.
 
We all have a moral obligation to help those who need it.

Irrespective of creed, colour or religion.
 
Waleed93 said:
No. They chose India as their nation 72 years ago. They belong to India and they should solve their problems there, not in another country.
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AdamM97 said:
Not at all. Indian Muslims decided to stay back despite the warnings from Jinnah.
Indian Muslims don’t want anything to do with Pakistan so it’s their battle, not ours.
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Their forefathers selected India not this generation so we can't blame them. If we can accommodate 3 million afghans refugees for 4 decades why not them?
 
WebGuru said:
Their forefathers selected India not this generation so we can't blame them. If we can accommodate 3 million afghans refugees for 4 decades why not them?
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To be honest, I would love to see illegal Afghan refugees go back to their country, just like those Indians who want to see illegal Bangladeshi immigrants go back to Bangladesh.

Afghan refugees have not contributed towards anything in a positive way for Pakistan. In fact, we all aware about the general point of view of Afghan people when it comes to Pakistan.

Indian Muslims are Indians. Whatever is happening in India with them is a recent issue, led by their government's facist policy towards Muslims. It is not a problem they are suffering from since Independence. They can't leave their country, their identity just because of this. Afghan people were forced to leave their country because they would not have survived there. It is not the case with Indian Muslims, they can handle it without our help.

More importantly, we have our own issues to worry about. We need to do more for our own Pakistani people, especially the minorities before worrying about Indians or Afghans.
 
Rich and educated ones will move to better countries, some them will dance to the tunes of hindutva vadis and act like model citizens if india becomes a hindu Pakistan, there are lot of poor muslims they will be in the exact position of minorities in Pakistan, their decisions will depend up on the severity of torture exerted on them
 
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WebGuru said:
Their forefathers selected India not this generation so we can't blame them. If we can accommodate 3 million afghans refugees for 4 decades why not them?
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I think most Indian Muslims of this generation still agree with the Nehruvian idea of a United India.
 
Whole India, Bangladesh, and Burma should join Pakistan so that way Muslims won’t have to leave their homes and seek refuge in Pakistan.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Sorry in advance for answering a very separate question. I'm not a Muslim but belong to a minority in India. In a hypothetical scenario, if I am given a choice, I will chose India a billion times over Pakistan - a troubled state with even worse conditions for minorities.
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lol it can not be worse than your country mate. Did you even think before writing last sentence?
 
Given that Pakistan is frequently described as God's gift to the Islamic world, I feel they should open their doors to any muslim refugee from India if they so choose to emigrate. It renews your sennse of purpose.
 
Pakistan has a moral responsibility to do so. As they are the big brother of Islamic countries, they should accept with open arms irrespective of which country they originate from. That is the least they can do.
 
kaayal said:
Sorry no offence, but we will never choose Pakistan.
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And there you have it!

I have a few relatives in india, everyone has told these guys to move to Pakistan for decades, thats were the majority of my relatives are, but they are not interested.

The ultimate rejection , is these guys support the indian cricket team and not Pakistan!😈
Let them sort out their own problems!

Only muslim kashmiris are of our concern, because most want to join Pakistan. These are the only guys we need to offer refuge to, if necessary, but it would be better if we could liberate them
 
Most of Kashmir is shouting Pakistan zindabad slogans. Maybe some Muslims from other parts of India would want to be Pakistani too. It's subjective so no one here can claim how all Indian Muslims feel...
 
Most Indian muslims that I know off will never choose Pakistan. They have a problem with current govt but they love India as a country. And why woudnt they? Muslims and other minorities flourished in India since 1947. We have muslim representation in every field from top beauraeucrats, cinema, politics, arts, literature, sports etc etc. Heck our ex great President was a muslim. Muslims in India are well aware they were never mistreated in this country and only got love. Infact, it is their own country so who are anyone to give them anything. Yes ofcourse lynchings and riots do happen but those scuffle happens everywhere.

Bottomline is, muslims & minorities in India are flourishing. Cant say the same for neighbouring countries though.
 
Bel_Homme said:
Most Indian muslims that I know off will never choose Pakistan. They have a problem with current govt but they love India as a country. And why woudnt they? Muslims and other minorities flourished in India since 1947. We have muslim representation in every field from top beauraeucrats, cinema, politics, arts, literature, sports etc etc. Heck our ex great President was a muslim. Muslims in India are well aware they were never mistreated in this country and only got love. Infact, it is their own country so who are anyone to give them anything. Yes ofcourse lynchings and riots do happen but those scuffle happens everywhere.

Bottomline is, muslims & minorities in India are flourishing. Cant say the same for neighbouring countries though.
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Are you a Muslim?
 
andy0204 said:
Indian Muslim even in their worst state will never go to Pakistan.
This is coming from an Indian Muslim.
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Such a state will never come to pass. This is your country as much as its mine.

Call me bjp/rss/sanghi, i will still call every Indian muslim Indian.
 
Bel_Homme said:
Most Indian muslims that I know off will never choose Pakistan. They have a problem with current govt but they love India as a country. And why woudnt they? Muslims and other minorities flourished in India since 1947. We have muslim representation in every field from top beauraeucrats, cinema, politics, arts, literature, sports etc etc. Heck our ex great President was a muslim. Muslims in India are well aware they were never mistreated in this country and only got love. Infact, it is their own country so who are anyone to give them anything. Yes ofcourse lynchings and riots do happen but those scuffle happens everywhere.

Bottomline is, muslims & minorities in India are flourishing. Cant say the same for neighbouring countries though.
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We are doing fine just because of the secular ethos in our constitution. Poor people whether Muslims or hindus are still mistreated in this country. But Muslims more so after the arrival of this hindutva government. Ever heard of cow vigilante violence? According to a Reuters report, a total of 63 cow vigilante attacks had occurred in India between 2010 and mid 2017, mostly since the Modi government came to power in 2014. In these attacks between 2010 and June 2017, "28 Indians – 24 of them Muslims – were killed and 124 injured", states the Reuter's report
 
I wouldn't want a single extra person from either side of the border. They chose India when they had a chance and that is their fate. I was thinking differently a few days ago but no, we can't really accommodate more people, not from India.
 
My Pakistani brothers and sisters, you need to wake up to reality.
Stop trying to be a part of a muslim ummah that does not exist and concentrate on our own people. We have unfortunately, too many poor people that need our help, even when you give zakat, you are suppose to give to your poor family members first, then to outsiders.
Indian muslims are not our concern(this coming from someone who has relatives in india), we wish them no harm but thats it, the rest is their business.
Obviously, muslims kashmiris are NOT indian muslims, they are our people and we must do everything peacefully we can to liberate them and worse case scenario accept all of them into Pakistan, but NO indian muslims!

And people say i dont like mipuris @capt rishwat
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
No offence but we'd never have welcomed you anyway. The thread is a question whether Pakistan has a moral responsibility. Not to Indians. And beggars can't be choosers anyway.
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Sorry chooser if i offended you. But i love my country as much as you love yours. It’s not specifically Pakistan but you can put any country there but we will still be loyal to our country till death.:)
 
kaayal said:
Sorry chooser if i offended you. But i love my country as much as you love yours. It’s not specifically Pakistan but you can put any country there but we will still be loyal to our country till death.:)
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Good for you and I will pray for your safety and your like.
 
kaayal said:
Sorry chooser if i offended you. But i love my country as much as you love yours. It’s not specifically Pakistan but you can put any country there but we will still be loyal to our country till death.:)
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You'll still not understanding what he's saying are you??

If you are forcefully evicted from India, you will have no choice but to go to Pakistan (or some other muslim country). Hence beggars can't be choosers.
 
kaayal said:
Sorry chooser if i offended you. But i love my country as much as you love yours. It’s not specifically Pakistan but you can put any country there but we will still be loyal to our country till death.:)
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Good for you.
Majority of Pakistanis dont care what happens to you and your family, only bleeding heart niave liberals care.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
You'll still not understanding what he's saying are you??

If you are forcefully evicted from India, you will have no choice but to go to Pakistan (or some other muslim country). Hence beggars can't be choosers.
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[MENTION=133135]kaayal[/MENTION]
Thats why india has one of the largest emigration populations in the world? Those indians loved their country so much, they got the hell out of india quicktime lol!
I dont know why i keep picturing spoons in my head?
 
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kaayal said:
Sorry chooser if i offended you. But i love my country as much as you love yours. It’s not specifically Pakistan but you can put any country there but we will still be loyal to our country till death.:)
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I will also be loyal to your country to the death, because in reality it is also my country. Your religious hate peddlers will never change that alhamdulillah.
 
Since we are talking about morals.
Then Pakistan has a moral responsibility to invade and dismantle the current hindvta regime, thus solving the problem of refugees, as well as resolving kashmir.
 
warcry said:
Since we are talking about morals.
Then Pakistan has a moral responsibility to invade and dismantle the current hindvta regime, thus solving the problem of refugees, as well as resolving kashmir.
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Why not do it?
 
They’d be out of their minds to choose Pakistan as their refuge. Poor infrastructure, poor economy, an inferior education system and a relative lack of security renders it as a poor choice.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
They’d be out of their minds to choose Pakistan as their refuge. Poor infrastructure, poor economy, an inferior education system and a relative lack of security renders it as a poor choice.
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Most Indian Muslims will choose to settle in the Gulf states or in Europe when it gets worse for them in India.
 
Why anyone wants to leave India and come to Pakistan this is like jumping in lava trying to escape a falling tree. I think people will go to the west and they welcome bright minds from all over the world anyways. I don't think Pakistan got a capacity to sustain any refugees they are in deep problems of their own.
 
Angrez Pakistani said:
They’d be out of their minds to choose Pakistan as their refuge. Poor infrastructure, poor economy, an inferior education system and a relative lack of security renders it as a poor choice.
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Yeah like india has state of the art infrastructure, schools and universities.
And about security in india, thats clear for everyone to see lol!
 
Title as 3 keywords

India, Pakistan, Muslims.

Please stick to the topic.
 
200 million people should not need to run away from anyone or anything.

No is the answer, Indian Muslims should stay and fight. If they have faith they will do this and if they have strong faith they could rule this land again.
 
KingKhanWC said:
200 million people should not need to run away from anyone or anything.

No is the answer, Indian Muslims should stay and fight. If they have faith they will do this and if they have strong faith they could rule this land again.
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What we want is the peaceful coexistence of all religion here. It doesn’t matter whether we rule or others are ruling us.
 
kaayal said:
What we want is the peaceful coexistence of all religion here. It doesn’t matter whether we rule or others are ruling us.
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It does matter when the rulers are Hindutva, this is only the start. India is ticking time bomb of religious conflicts due to the history and due to Hindu extremists being very powerful.

Wake up, India will not allow Muslims to live in peace. Indian Muslims have sat back and done nothing when Kashmiris have been raped, tortured and murdered. If they had stood up for those people, things wouldn't be getting so bad for them.

But I don't care for Indian Muslims because they did not care for Kashmiris. Pakistan should refuse to let any Indian Muslim into our great nation where we can be free and walk proud in every inch of the land stating the shahada.

My advise to you is to move with your and your family. If not in your lifetime, the next generation will suffer the wrath and hatred of Hindu extremists unless Indian Muslims fight back, which is anyones guess.
 
andy0204 said:
Indian Muslim even in their worst state will never go to Pakistan.
This is coming from an Indian Muslim.
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i would not doubt either,nor i would be surprise if they do not come. because if you are musliam then you must have heard Hadiths that prophet PBUH did not want to leave Makkah, it is just a city, let alone country.
It is hard to leave mother land, no body wants to leave mother land.
That was a just a reply to ignorant post.
 
No way. Indian Muslims made up their mind in 1947. Those who may have contributed to the creation of Pak have long passed on. These people mostly called Jinnah saheb "Kafir-e-Azam" so we have no reason to even morally support them. Most of them have always openly encouraged the killing of Kashmiris so let them taste some off it as well. The tried to Kashmirise India, now much of India is being Kashmirised too.
 
kaayal said:
We are doing fine just because of the secular ethos in our constitution. Poor people whether Muslims or hindus are still mistreated in this country. But Muslims more so after the arrival of this hindutva government. Ever heard of cow vigilante violence? According to a Reuters report, a total of 63 cow vigilante attacks had occurred in India between 2010 and mid 2017, mostly since the Modi government came to power in 2014. In these attacks between 2010 and June 2017, "28 Indians – 24 of them Muslims – were killed and 124 injured", states the Reuter's report
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Dear sister, dont want to argue with you but all I would say is....behind every Gujrat there is a Godhra. People hype the former but never mentions the later. We both are proud Indians and love this country to the bits. But what you see 6, I see it 9 from my end. And this difference will always be there amongst us.
 
Bel_Homme said:
Dear sister, dont want to argue with you but all I would say is....behind every Gujrat there is a Godhra. People hype the former but never mentions the later. We both are proud Indians and love this country to the bits. But what you see 6, I see it 9 from my end. And this difference will always be there amongst us.
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TRANSLATION:

Dear Sis, it's not our fault it's yours. Always yours.
 
PakLFC said:
No way. Indian Muslims made up their mind in 1947. Those who may have contributed to the creation of Pak have long passed on. These people mostly called Jinnah saheb "Kafir-e-Azam" so we have no reason to even morally support them. Most of them have always openly encouraged the killing of Kashmiris so let them taste some off it as well. The tried to Kashmirise India, now much of India is being Kashmirised too.
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I meant they tried to Indianise Kashmir by force. Now all of India is being Kashmirised rapidly with India on the verge of civil war. Remember next year the Sikhs also will be holding a referendum as well. I feel not an ounce of sympathy for India ir it's people. They deserve much worse then this and it will come to them, inshallah. I am afraid it seems they won't be marrying Kashmiri girls after all:inzi2
 
Yes, Pakistan was made as the homeland for Muslims of the sub-continent. It is one of the only 2 states formed officially on religious grounds. It is times like these that it needs to take a pause, realize what it was meant to be at its core, and step up. But we have Imran Khan saying the opposite :|
 
I do not think they want to come here.

But God forbid, if the situation gets worse for them and they want to come in then we should not stop them. We should let them come in only if they want.
 
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