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England (130/2) inflict an 8-wicket defeat on India (124/7) in the 1st T20I

Oh bhai, I don’t want to go down this rabbit hole with you. Pandya is one of the most exciting cricketers in the world. You have to live with it. If that bugs you so much, sure suit yourself to make yourself feel better.

Oh bhai, don't pass your personal opinion as a fact here. Just say that for you he is the most exciting cricketers in the world. Ofcourse you have some surveys or polls you did around your society you can share it with us. :inti
 
Oh bhai, I don’t want to go down this rabbit hole with you. Pandya is one of the most exciting cricketers in the world. You have to live with it. If that bugs you so much, sure suit yourself to make yourself feel better.

it just seems like a very over exaggerated comment, im not doubting hes a good player but stokes was box office in the world cup final and single handedly won a test in the ashes he had no right to win, what has Pandya done that ahs made him "box office" .
 
Dhawan, Kohli & Pant should be replaced by newbies for the remainder of T20 series. They bring nothing to the table.
 
Well played Shreyas!

Just because other guys have not played any international cricket, they don't automatically become better player than you especially in ODIs.
This.
Players who didn't play a single game are legends but Shreyas is a fraud.
 
it just seems like a very over exaggerated comment, im not doubting hes a good player but stokes was box office in the world cup final and single handedly won a test in the ashes he had no right to win, what has Pandya done that ahs made him "box office" .

He gave Swepson, Tye, Richardson and Zampa the beating of their lives in our recent T20 series against Australia in Australia. :inti
 
Dhawan, Kohli & Pant should be replaced by newbies for the remainder of T20 series. They bring nothing to the table.
9, 40,85
Kohli's scores against Australia in last T20 series.
Can you please name one batman who played better than Kohli in recent times.
 
Yes, this innings defines his entire body of work.

im still waiting for you to define what has made him box office, something like a match winning knock in a world cup final or test match, heck i will even take IPL final if that suites you? i dont doubt he is not a good player but he still got a lot of work to do. living of his friendship with kohli.
 
I think getting Rohit back and Pant at 3 could help. Not sure if they will try Pant at 3. He needs to play more PP overs. Kohli will come in at 4
 
I've always felt shreyas iyer should have played 2019 WC ahead of Dinesh karthik and Pant. India made a mistake dropping him after just 5-6 games in 2017.
Kohli played a huge role in unsetlling Indian side during couple of years prior to WC. Result was India playing 4 wicket keepers in WC semi final
 
I've always felt shreyas iyer should have played 2019 WC ahead of Dinesh karthik and Pant. India made a mistake dropping him after just 5-6 games in 2017.
Kohli played a huge role in unsetlling Indian side during couple of years prior to WC. Result was India playing 4 wicket keepers in WC semi final

He wasn't this good back then. I think he improved his batting against short balls.
 
I am still backing India to win this game. It all depends on how Indian spinners bowl.
 
im still waiting for you to define what has made him box office, something like a match winning knock in a world cup final or test match, heck i will even take IPL final if that suites you?

Let me know how many world X1’s right now wouldn’t have a place for a fully fit Hardik Pandya in their LoI team. You will have the answer.

I think you are trying too hard for a confrontation. Let me put this in perspective, I am not a Pandya fan boy and I still think he has a lot more to prove but either you don’t get cricket or you have some other agenda if you can’t see that this guy right here is a special cricketer who does get people glued to their seats when he is batting, fielding or even bowling.

As I said there is nothing here for me to prove or there isn’t really an argument here. Every
One who knows cricket knows how exciting and destructive he can be, you can either lie back enjoy his game or spend time figuring out ways to hate. It’s your choice. Not interested in indulging and don’t think you should push me more than this.
 
What a shot! Bisecting the two fielders in boundary. I am started liking his batting. Conventional cricket.
 
I've always felt shreyas iyer should have played 2019 WC ahead of Dinesh karthik and Pant. India made a mistake dropping him after just 5-6 games in 2017.
Kohli played a huge role in unsetlling Indian side during couple of years prior to WC. Result was India playing 4 wicket keepers in WC semi final

Team reached SF and came across a damn good team and deserved to lose. You are making as if team lost in group stages. Having Shreyas or Rayudu nothing would have mattered on that day
 
silly PSL owners, spent more time making biriyani out of the cows who knew there was other uses

Exactly. Not using ones brains outside of a known directive might directly relate to the scientific progress of the respective countries. Hey good to know at least the Biryani was good.
 
Exactly. Not using ones brains outside of a known directive might directly relate to the scientific progress of the respective countries. Hey good to know at least the Biryani was good.

if your using a cow for anything other than meat or milk or leather you need your brains checked :))
 
Agree
Unfortunately he got backing after wc.

He generally does well when top order collapses. I would give him a long run especially in ODIs. I have no doubt he is better than a lot of guys when India are 20/3.
 
Let me know how many world X1’s right now wouldn’t have a place for a fully fit Hardik Pandya in their LoI team. You will have the answer.

I think you are trying too hard for a confrontation. Let me put this in perspective, I am not a Pandya fan boy and I still think he has a lot more to prove but either you don’t get cricket or you have some other agenda if you can’t see that this guy right here is a special cricketer who does get people glued to their seats when he is batting, fielding or even bowling.

As I said there is nothing here for me to prove or there isn’t really an argument here. Every
One who knows cricket knows how exciting and destructive he can be, you can either lie back enjoy his game or spend time figuring out ways to hate.
It’s your choice. Not interested in indulging and don’t think you should push me more than this.

Hardik Pandya's batting average in T20's

44 matches average of just 18.50 :inti
 
Let me know how many world X1’s right now wouldn’t have a place for a fully fit Hardik Pandya in their LoI team. You will have the answer.

I think you are trying too hard for a confrontation. Let me put this in perspective, I am not a Pandya fan boy and I still think he has a lot more to prove but either you don’t get cricket or you have some other agenda if you can’t see that this guy right here is a special cricketer who does get people glued to their seats when he is batting, fielding or even bowling.

As I said there is nothing here for me to prove or there isn’t really an argument here. Every
One who knows cricket knows how exciting and destructive he can be, you can either lie back enjoy his game or spend time figuring out ways to hate. It’s your choice. Not interested in indulging and don’t think you should push me more than this.

hes a good player hes just not "box office" thats a term reserved for the players going on to become ATG i.e. kohli de villiers, etc pandya is a long way off so premature to give him these labels now.
 
Team reached SF and came across a damn good team and deserved to lose. You are making as if team lost in group stages. Having Shreyas or Rayudu nothing would have mattered on that day

It would've. They picked Pant in the squad last minute though he barely played any ODIs before the World Cup, then played him at No. 4. Pandya also was sent up the order which he hadn't been doing before the World Cup. Didn't even pick Rayudu in the squad who they had been backing at No. 4 for over a year. They completely screwed up the World Cup plans, if they even had any.
 
It would've. They picked Pant in the squad last minute though he barely played any ODIs before the World Cup, then played him at No. 4. Pandya also was sent up the order which he hadn't been doing before the World Cup. Didn't even pick Rayudu in the squad who they had been backing at No. 4 for over a year. They completely screwed up the World Cup plans, if they even had any.

That game was lost when The ball started swinging. There is squat that Rayudu or Iyer could have done. It's a credit to Jadeja that India even came close.
 
if your using a cow for anything other than meat or milk or leather you need your brains checked :))

You know that dry cow/Buffalo dung is used a fertilizer or as a natural gas option or even a thermostat even in Pakistani villages right?

Simple google search will do the trick.

You need to at least read up a bit before even trying to act intelligent.
 
It would've. They picked Pant in the squad last minute though he barely played any ODIs before the World Cup, then played him at No. 4. Pandya also was sent up the order which he hadn't been doing before the World Cup. Didn't even pick Rayudu in the squad who they had been backing at No. 4 for over a year. They completely screwed up the World Cup plans, if they even had any.

So the NZ bowlers did not have a say.it’s all fault of batsmen. Losing 4 top order wickets for nothing ,it’s a rarity teams come back from that. I would just credit NZ bowlers and leave it at that.
 
Brilliant catch and a very good innings. 120 it is. Need some early wickets but this is England's game.
 
That game was lost when The ball started swinging. There is squat that Rayudu or Iyer could have done. It's a credit to Jadeja that India even came close.

You're saying if Pant, Pandya or whoever hadn't gotten enough matches/experience batting higher up the order that they wouldn't have been able to do better than they did?
 
You know that dry cow/Buffalo dung is used a fertilizer or as a natural gas option or even a thermostat even in Pakistani villages right?

Simple google search will do the trick.

You need to at least read up a bit before even trying to act intelligent.

yee basically its rubbish, like compost, bulls bladder is used for taurine etc whats your point.
 
Team reached SF and came across a damn good team and deserved to lose. You are making as if team lost in group stages. Having Shreyas or Rayudu nothing would have mattered on that day

India needed its middle order to do the rescue act in semi final but it was clearly very weak. I clearly remember dhoni stopped doing changing nd chopping 2 years prior to the world cup 2011. Why did kohli drop rayudu right before WC? For a much inferior DK? what wromg did shreyas do to he dropped in 2017. Scored at an avergae of 40 in six games
 
25 runs short I'd say. Rahul- no feet movement. Dhawan bad shot for a ball coming in at that pace. Rest of the shots were on. They just couldn't execute today.
 
You're saying if Pant, Pandya or whoever hadn't gotten enough matches/experience batting higher up the order that they wouldn't have been able to do better than they did?

So according to you Pant should have been groomed for WC from 18 or 19 yrs of age lol.. india were in SF and cannot complain what happened later
 
So the NZ bowlers did not have a say.it’s all fault of batsmen. Losing 4 top order wickets for nothing ,it’s a rarity teams come back from that. I would just credit NZ bowlers and leave it at that.

Don't deflect from the issue. India didn't have a settled XI because Kohli/team management messed up our World Cup plans and deserve blame.
 
Why are Rohit, SKY and Kishan not playing? :))

Looks like PRat took their IPL win quite personally.
 
India needed its middle order to do the rescue act in semi final but it was clearly very weak. I clearly remember dhoni stopped doing changing nd chopping 2 years prior to the world cup 2011. Why did kohli drop rayudu right before WC? For a much inferior DK? what wromg did shreyas do to he dropped in 2017. Scored at an avergae of 40 in six games

Have you seen Iyer in the SA series in SA? His 50s were in games in India. In SA series he couldn't put bet to ball against short deliveries. That's why he was rightly dropped. Rayudu was picked because of quota and that Southern Selector. It's the same selector that dropped Rayudu for that 360 player in the WC. Iyer seems to have improved now so that's good for India
 
England are winning this 4-1.

They are just better than us in pretty much all departments. Will take an herculean effort from one of Aus/WI to stop them from winning the WC this year.
 
You're saying if Pant, Pandya or whoever hadn't gotten enough matches/experience batting higher up the order that they wouldn't have been able to do better than they did?

It's not about experience. It's about ability. Rohit has more experience than 90 percent of crickets world wide. Yet his dismissals against the moving ball are predictable. There was just no ability to fave boult and Henry on that day.
 
The euphoria when Axar hit a four off a top edge when India is at 120/7. T20 is such a heaven for the fun seeking casual fan.
 
It swung for 7-8 overs only

And that's where the game ended with all three back in the hut. The rest were just not good enough until Dhoni and Jadeja made it look close than it was.
 
So according to you Pant should have been groomed for WC from 18 or 19 yrs of age lol.. india were in SF and cannot complain what happened later

Pant debuted for India in February 2017. World Cup was in May 2019. Let's not make it like he was just born a year before the World Cup.

Not saying they should've picked him no matter what, but they didn't give him a lot of ODIs in those 2 years and then suddenly thrust him at the World Cup stage. That is just poor planning.
 
Looks another poor wicket as per Sreyas Iyer who is saying its a good total on this wicket. I havent watched Indian innings but if he honestly believes that its pretty surprising how some pitches on this tour have been, surely BCCI can do better than this.
 
It's not about experience. It's about ability. Rohit has more experience than 90 percent of crickets world wide. Yet his dismissals against the moving ball are predictable. There was just no ability to fave boult and Henry on that day.

How many players can smash bowlers in swinging and seaming conditions?

England.Aus seem to get blown away in swinging and spinning conditions too even in LOI’s.

It was a freakish day and some intelligence in the middle and some more intent by Dhoni would have won us the semis with at least 3-4 overs to spare.
 
Have you seen Iyer in the SA series in SA? His 50s were in games in India. In SA series he couldn't put bet to ball against short deliveries. That's why he was rightly dropped. Rayudu was picked because of quota and that Southern Selector. It's the same selector that dropped Rayudu for that 360 player in the WC. Iyer seems to have improved now so that's good for India

Cant judge a player on couple of outings in SA. It's not just weakness agaimst short balls that determine plauer's overall ability. Players like saurav and raina have had successful careers in spite of being poor against short pitch balls
 
Looks another poor wicket as per Sreyas Iyer who is saying its a good total on this wicket. I havent watched Indian innings but if he honestly believes that its pretty surprising how some pitches on this tour have been, surely BCCI can do better than this.

You should wait until England bat. :))
 
IIRC Iyer's stats read 40+ at 100 SR before the World Cup. He was unfairly dropped for trash like DK.
 
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