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England [362 & 243] beat South Africa [226 & 202] by 177 runs, win Test series 3-1

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England : Joe Root (C) , Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow (w) , Gary Ballance, Stuart Broad, Alastair Cook, Liam Dawson, Steven Finn, Keaton Jennings, Toby Roland-Jones, Ben Stokes

South Africa : Faf du Plessis (C), Hashim Amla, Temba Bavuma, Theunis de Bruyn, Quinton de Kock (w), Dean Elgar, Heino Kuhn, Keshav Maharaj, Aiden Markram, Morne Morkel, Chris Morris, Duanne Olivier, Andile Phehlukwayo, Vernon Philander, Kagiso Rabada
 
Looks a hard, flat pitch but recent downpours in Manchester may mean there is less pace in this Old Trafford wicket than we're used to seeing.

Credit to the groundsman for getting the pitch and outfield ready. They had the heat lamps out and have had to deal with several concerts being staged at the ground.
 
We're going to open a Moeen Ali end at Worcestershire and Wawrwickshire, we have already made it compulsory that every third born in a family must be named after Moeen in Brum [MENTION=53290]Markhor[/MENTION] .

Adil Rashid on the other hand shall receive the honour of his very own stall at Headingley to sell the best pies in England :afridi :akhtar :broad

:)) Jimmy being immortalised this morning
 
So England win the toss and elect to bat first, probably the correct decision. Not much in the wicket and they will look to unleash the Beard as the Test progresses. Can't believe England have not beaten SA in a Test series for two decades bah gawd! I hope we can say that as Pakistan fans 13 years from now :afridi :salute
 
Faf du Lieutenant Zippy confirms that de Bruyn and Olivier comes into the South Africa XI. Both Philander and Morris are injured. Huge blow for SA especially Big Vern
 
Loving this special by athers, hussain and pollock on the short ball. That spell by Flintoff to Kallis was incredible, Andrew's peaks were as good as Botham and Willis if not better, what a bowler. The helmet may have changed technique's with regards to playing the short ball and while I agree with athers that batsman tend to be the aggressors in the modern era the short ball is still a very attacking delivery from a bowlers perspective.

All athers, hussain and pollock rate Akhtar as the quickest bowler they faced
 
shaz619 said:
Faf du Lieutenant Zippy confirms that de Bruyn and Olivier comes into the South Africa XI. Both Philander and Morris are injured. Huge blow for SA especially Big Vern
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Sigh, this is not going to end well.
 
Jennings would've been gone had there been a short leg.
 
shaz619 said:
So England win the toss and elect to bat first, probably the correct decision. Not much in the wicket and they will look to unleash the Beard as the Test progresses. Can't believe England have not beaten SA in a Test series for two decades bah gawd! I hope we can say that as Pakistan fans 13 years from now :afridi :salute
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We beat them away in 2016 and 2005. It's just the home series where they have been our bogey team.
 
Morkel has troubled Cook a few times in this series. Getting Cook to play and miss with a few rapping him on his pads.
 
Rabada not making the batsmen play, these deliveries are too easy to leave.
 
Jennings isn't good enough for Test yet, I'll be surprised if he makes the Ashes squad. However, there is the WI series for him to mend his stats.
 
Why are England picking these players who can't even average 40 in FC cricket? Jennings, Westley, Malan all have ordinary FC stats. What's the idea here?

Why doesn't Ben Duckett get another go or someone like Nick Browne?
 
Dios said:
Why are England picking these players who can't even average 40 in FC cricket? Jennings, Westley, Malan all have ordinary FC stats. What's the idea here?

Why doesn't Ben Duckett get another go or someone like Nick Browne?
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Westley got picked because he's been going pretty well in county cricket lately and had 3 hundreds in 3 games against international attacks in the last few years showing his technique has had a good working over. To be fair on him he's looked pretty solid and one of the most reassuring England batting debutants of the last few years. With Malan I think they wanted a right hander in the middle order to break it up.

Duckett had his very visible issue against off spinners in the winter and although South Africa don't have one, both West Indies and Australia will have someone who can bowl to that weakness after this series and the selectors presumably don't think he's got past that issue yet.
 
When was the last time Root failed to score at least a 50 in a test match

It's funny to see still many people trying hard to prove he's overrated
 
Protea Fan said:
When was the last time Root failed to score at least a 50 in a test match

It's funny to see still many people trying hard to prove he's overrated
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True, problem comes in getting those 100s. I believe Root is mainly criticized for his conversion rate.
 
"Morkel has been better than his figures suggest"

I wonder how many times that has been said about Morkel. It's essentially his cricket life story.

A lethal weapon in the Steyn, Philander, Morkel days.
 
New ball taken, Morkel induces the edge but no third slip with Stokes on 44.
 
Malan looked like a hack every time I saw him bat in the PSL. I can't imagine what England were thinking to pick such a player for Tests. :13:
 
Muhammad10 said:
Rabada has bowled some real peaches in this series. Outrageous young talent.
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He hasn't quite got his line right this tour, hasn't made the batsmen play enough. Some of his deliveries has been too easy to leave.

But given its his first series in England bowling with the Dukes we can give him some leeway.
 
Markhor said:
He hasn't quite got his line right this tour, hasn't made the batsmen play enough. Some of his deliveries has been too easy to leave.

But given its his first series in England bowling with the Dukes we can give him some leeway.
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It should be a good learning experience for him. He's still developing as a bowler and has all the tools to become an ATG.
 
Even day probably, because SAF has the new ball and fresh bowlers tomorrow morning. If they can get Poms out below 300, they should back themselves this time to put a lead after 1st innings.

I think, Poms will be the unhappier team tonight because of their top 6 dismissals reading 46, 17, 29, 52, 18, 58 - these are wasted starts, scores that suggests wicket & batting condition is quite good, but batsmen failed to capitalize on starts. Oval was a bit different, because that 353 was built on 2 outstanding innings of 88 & 112, but not the case here. I believe SAF will bat much better here this time, but they need to put Kok at 5, if not 6. He can do similar impact with tail, like Gilchrist against tired attack but he is too aggressive to bat at 4.
 
I sense another Jonny Bairstow 70/80 and then everyones back on the Bairstow bandwagon, that he's some sort of World Class batsman.

In reality he's a poor man's Mathews.
 
Haz95 said:
I sense another Jonny Bairstow 70/80 and then everyones back on the Bairstow bandwagon, that he's some sort of World Class batsman.

In reality he's a poor man's Mathews.
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the reason why he is rated so highly is not because of the volume of runs but because he is a wonderful pressure player. always shows up when the team is under pressure and rescues them.

if anything he is underrated. doesn't score any "soft runs" (pakpassion favorite word)...
 
England's day. If they can get 350 on the board then they will be in control of the game. Big scores aren't usually seen at Old Trafford these days.

Cook, Root and Stokes a class apart once again. It's a pretty poor batting lineup without them. England need to find some quality batsmen - quickly.

SA bowled well but just not well enough to be honest. They will not be looking forward to batting last on this pitch.
 
James said:
England's day. If they can get 350 on the board then they will be in control of the game. Big scores aren't usually seen at Old Trafford these days.

Cook, Root and Stokes a class apart once again. It's a pretty poor batting lineup without them. England need to find some quality batsmen - quickly.

SA bowled well but just not well enough to be honest. They will not be looking forward to batting last on this pitch.
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I agree with all points. It all really depends if SA can bowl England out for under 300. Tomorrow's day will be interesting since SA have to put up a score to make a test outta this.
 
James said:
England's day. If they can get 350 on the board then they will be in control of the game. Big scores aren't usually seen at Old Trafford these days.

Cook, Root and Stokes a class apart once again. It's a pretty poor batting lineup without them. England need to find some quality batsmen - quickly.

SA bowled well but just not well enough to be honest. They will not be looking forward to batting last on this pitch.
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What's the name of the ginger behind the wicket? He's pretty damn good.
 
Haz95 said:
I sense another Jonny Bairstow 70/80 and then everyones back on the Bairstow bandwagon, that he's some sort of World Class batsman.

In reality he's a poor man's Mathews.
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Hardly. Time and again Bairstow has scored innings in pressure situations. He and Moeen Ali batted us out of the game at Edgbaston last year and was England's best batsman when we beat them at The Oval.

He's one of the better players of spin in this England team too as evident by his performances in Asia last year when his team was collapsing regularly.

His problem is conversion - 16 fifties but only 3 hundreds. Maybe its a result of him batting down the order at 6 and 7 when he should be given a run at 5 as there's not a lot of quality middle-order batsmen in county cricket and the alternatives like Malan, Ballance, Vince have failed time and again.
 
Markhor said:
His problem is conversion - 16 fifties but only 3 hundreds. Maybe its a result of him batting down the order at 6 and 7 when he should be given a run at 5 as there's not a lot of quality middle-order batsmen in county cricket and the alternatives like Malan, Ballance, Vince have failed time and again.
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Think England should play him at 5. And make Buttler keeper who i think is good enough at no 7 as a keeper batsman. Johhny then can score big runs. He is a potential 47-48 avg batsman which is good considering he plays most of his matches in England .
 
Been ages since Broad bowled his magic spells.

Must be due one soon.

Lovely clip off the legs by "beer"
 
SA have two batters who concern me - one is out for a duck.
 
Questions for SA:

What no will QDK come in?

Will Faf be able to leave "the leave"
 
Amla is becoming the bunny of TRJ, 3 dismissals out of 3 :D
 
I honestly don't see us winning this one. It would require a minor miracle.

Pity, it would have been a great story.
 
SA will be hoping De Kock clicks today facing an older ball. It might be their only hope of winning this match.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Faf hiding down the order.
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Bavuma is one of their better batsmen against lateral movement. Has a solid technique but has conversion issues. Makes good starts but often doesn't cash in and make the big hundreds.
 
Oh Bavuma why would you leave a delivery that straight ?
 
And another ! 2 wickets in 3 balls.

Anderson dismisses Faf as well. He's had a poor series with the bat.
 
Could've been another wicket, tough chance for Jennings.

And another near miss :)))

Ball went quick and Stokes couldn't cling on. de Kock shouldn't have been cutting that one.
 
Twenty wickets in the series for Beard for the first time.
 
Robert said:
Twenty wickets in the series for Beard for the first time.
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South Africa struggling versus him big time.

Having brought Saqlain on as spin bowling coach, England are now reaping the rewards.

SA 171/7.
 
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