India (283/1) deliver a crushing 135-run defeat to South Africa (148) to clinch the four-match T20I series 3-1

[Vikram1989]

Momin brother only asked a question. Fearless bhai and others were adamant about it and some even claimed that India would be less than mediocre because 50% of India's strength was Bumrah.

Awful understanding of white ball cricket.

If you see momin's latest trend no body will think it's a question . he created it purposefully and argued vehemently.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Oldies are cash cows. Their blind fans will create a ruckus in social media if their idols get dropped.

Sanju and Tilak will be part of the main squad from here on.

That's why I say that India was lucky in WC 2024

 

[sweep_shot]

Must be hard to post for anyone when his most hated team is trouncing opponents this way. :

Not at all.

I don't take Mickey Mouse T20 seriously.

 

[Ab Fan]

A convincing win from India reflecting the champions mentality and utmost dominance in T20 cricket.

With this ends the year of highs and lows for India.

 

[JaDed]

World Champion in Mickey Mouse cricket (T20).

Good try there are posts of yours that say otherwise before the T20 wc 2024.. don’t ask Indians not to cry or whine coz you are coming across as a sore loser.

 

[Vikram1989]

Oldies are cash cows. Their blind fans will create a ruckus in social media if their idols get dropped.

Sanju and Tilak will be part of the main squad from here on.

We should wait on tilak.on bowling tracks he has severe strike rotation issues. Nitish should be preferred at 4 so that we reduce hardik dependency and make nitish proper all rounder for limited formats . At 5 rinku , 6 Hardik, 7 parag/raman .

 

[JaDed]

That's why I say that India was lucky in WC 2024

We didn’t lose a single game, from an Indian perspective a perfect tournament.

 

[Shaheenthefalcon]

I said its a dying format, bro. I didn't say it's not serious .

I kno right

 

[ChennaiFan]

Good brand of cricket by the Indian team. South Africa should forget this and move on. It is just a T20 match. Hope they reset their bowling approach.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

We didn’t lose a single game, from an Indian perspective a perfect tournament.

Be thankful to Bumrah and Klassen, or else it was a miss is as good as a mile

 

[charlie007]

Wow! So India is fielding two totally different sides in different formats without any overlap at all. And on top of that, the young guns did very well. Good stuff!

 

[JaDed]

Be thankful to Bumrah and Klassen, or else it was a miss is as good as a mile

If you say so, maybe you should be thankful to rain for 1992?

In this case I’m thankful to players playing cricket, it would be a miss if we lost a single game we didn’t.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Be thankful to Bumrah and Klassen, or else it was a miss is as good as a mile

And South Africa should thank Bangladesh for choking against them in the group stage etc.

Bottom line is it is the only team to win a World T20 without losing a single match. Most dominant World T20 winner in history.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

If you say so, maybe you should be thankful to rain for 1992?

In this case I’m thankful to players playing cricket, it would be a miss if we lost a single game we didn’t.

Yep rain was a blessing

 

[ChennaiFan]

Wow! So India is fielding two totally different sides in different formats without any overlap at all. And on top of that, the young guns did very well. Good stuff!

It is not a surprise when you have 1.4 billion people. India should have followed this approach from a long time back.

 

[JaDed]

Saffers have the worst reserve easily, only a some certain Bangladeshi expected them to win this series and it consistently kept getting worst.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Saffers have the worst reserve easily, only a some certain Bangladeshi expected them to win this series and it consistently kept getting worst.

If I were you, I would not feed the India hating trolls. They are attention seekers and it is better to leave them alone.

 

[charlie007]

It is not a surprise when you have 1.4 billion people. India should have followed this approach from a long time back.

Well not really, if population determined everything, Pakistan and Bangladesh would have been right with us. Credit where due.

 

[sweep_shot]

Good try there are posts of yours that say otherwise before the T20 wc 2024.. don’t ask Indians not to cry or whine coz you are coming across as a sore loser.

I have always maintained T20 is not real cricket.

2024 World T20 has nothing to do with anything. You are being salty for no reason.

 

[JaDed]

I have always maintained T20 is not real cricket.

2024 World T20 has nothing to do with anything. You are being salty for no reason.

Didn’t say it was ODI t20 Test as your order and after the T20 2024 you changed, previously you accepted that you changed your view, not sure what happened now.

 

[JaDed]

If I were you, I would not feed the India hating trolls. They are attention seekers and it is better to leave them alone.

You are right my bad.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Good performance from India.

They scored more runs in this T20 than they did against New Zealand at times.

Glad to see subcontinent teams come back after hitting rock bottom recently and it's nice to see India following Pakistan's lead with a dominant series win in SENA.

Well done brothers.

 

[jnaveen1980]

If I were you, I would not feed the India hating trolls. They are attention seekers and it is better to leave them alone.

This. We have to give up on that. Just focus on Indian team and move on. No need of recognition fro anyone. Mute them and move on

 

[jnaveen1980]

Good performance from India.

They scored more runs in this T20 than they did against New Zealand at times.

Glad to see subcontinent teams come back after hitting rock bottom recently and it's nice to see India following Pakistan's lead with a dominant series win in SENA.

Well done brothers.

Crazy last 3 months. Almost like anyone can lose to anyone in any format.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Crazy last 3 months. Almost like anyone can lose to anyone in any format.

It's been great from fans perspective.

But this Indian performance deserves some special praise.

This is a B/C team and they played amazingly.

 

[Rajdeep]

Didn’t say it was ODI t20 Test as your order and after the T20 2024 you changed, previously you accepted that you changed your view, not sure what happened now.

He simply hates Indians as he sees them as kaafirs. This is the root cause. During WT20 he was supporting every team that was playing against India. When Klassen was smoking in the finals, he was like thank you for making my Saturday. So much for not caring about T20 cricket...LOL.

 

[jnaveen1980]

It's been great from fans perspective.

But this Indian performance deserves some special praise.

This is a B/C team and they played amazingly.

If you don't phase out players at the right time you will see a dramatic slump out of nowhere. It has been a problem with most teams. All the more prevalent in India.

 

[Mohraheem]

Well done India! Keep it up! You’re showing our Pakistani fans how Misbah tactics are useless in Pakistan! Aggression is the key which Pakistan lacks! Keep it up!

 

[mominsaigol]

If you see momin's latest trend no body will think it's a question . he created it purposefully and argued vehemently.

When did I do that?

 

[sweep_shot]

When did I do that?

@Vikram1989 generally doesn't write anything on-topic. All he does is attack other people.

 

[sweep_shot]

He simply hates Indians as he sees them as kaafirs. This is the root cause. During WT20 he was supporting every team that was playing against India. When Klassen was smoking in the finals, he was like thank you for making my Saturday. So much for not caring about T20 cricket...LOL.

It is not like that actually. If that was the case, I would've criticized Sri Lanka and Nepal too. But, I don't criticize those countries.

I simply don't like arrogant Indian fans like you and I enjoy when India get humbled.

Anyway, T20 and IPL are not real cricket. That has been my position since the inception of T20.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

India blew away the proteas in the four match T20I series by winning the fourth T20I by 135 runs

Earlier in the day, India opted to bat first on a pitch that looked solid for batting and they didn't waste time in getting out of the blocks. The openers smashed quick runs in the Powerplay after which a record stand of 210 runs between Sanju Samson and Tilak Varma just blew away the opposition bowlers. Marco Jansen was the one bright light as he made valuable contributions with both bat and ball yet again but the rest of the bowling attack never managed to build any sort of pressure on the batters. Eventually, the total on the board was just too high and the Proteas crumbled inside the Powerplay with the bat.

The story has been the same for the South Africans. They’ve struggled big time! This though could well be a morale deflating defeat. The margin is massive. Agreed they batted in tougher conditions and one can blame the bowling but the batting wasn't nearly good enough. The top three failed again so did Heinrich Klaasen and only the likes of Tristan Stubbs, David Miller and Marco Jansen managed to muster up some runs with the game already gone.

 

[Vikram1989]

If you don't phase out players at the right time you will see a dramatic slump out of nowhere. It has been a problem with most teams. All the more prevalent in India.

Unless we value performance culture than pr culture. I think rohit and kohli will be the last ones to abuse it this bad .After few years definitely we will be more performance oriented due to team with lots of youngsters and rising sports culture influence.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Momin brother only asked a question. Fearless bhai and others were adamant about it and some even claimed that India would be less than mediocre because 50% of India's strength was Bumrah.

Awful understanding of white ball cricket.

Nah it was never a question by @mominsaigol , it was a forced argument. Quite sure he will make it again if India loses some t20i series

 

[mominsaigol]

Nah it was never a question by @mominsaigol , it was a forced argument. Quite sure he will make it again if India loses some t20i series

Again when did I ever say that? I made a thread asking a question and you all hooligans came one after another.

Then a war started. That was the timeline. And I have it all on display.

Don't try to read my intentions or play detective.

 

[mominsaigol]

@Vikram1989 generally doesn't write anything on-topic. All he does is attack other people.

Well he should stop trying to make accusations without any proof

 

[jnaveen1980]

Unless we value performance culture than pr culture. I think rohit and kohli will be the last ones to abuse it this bad .After few years definitely we will be more performance oriented due to team with lots of youngsters and rising sports culture influence.

This culture of seniors taking a break and waltzing right back into the team without any practice or anything is hurting India.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Unless we value performance culture than pr culture. I think rohit and kohli will be the last ones to abuse it this bad .After few years definitely we will be more performance oriented due to team with lots of youngsters and rising sports culture influence.

In the most recent times we got humbled in Two series. One common thing is Rohit and Kohli.

 

[Usman Chadda]

This Tilak Varma was struggling to get away the likes of Zaman Khan and Abbas Afridi, who are nothing bowlers.

What kind of switch has he flipped here?

 

[jnaveen1980]

This Tilak Varma was struggling to get away the likes of Zaman Khan and Abbas Afridi, who are nothing bowlers.

What kind of switch has he flipped here?

He was captain there. Ultra selfish there. Now he has to follow the team template. Any time INdia makes a guy captain they instantly become selfish. Gill was selfish in Zimbabwe.

 

[Usman Chadda]

He was captain there. Ultra selfish there. Now he has to follow the team template. Any time INdia makes a guy captain they instantly become selfish. Gill was selfish in Zimbabwe.

Looked terrible to be honest, and if you are not scoring against the likes of Zaman Khan and Abbas Afridi, you are struggling big time.

 

[sweep_shot]

This Tilak Varma was struggling to get away the likes of Zaman Khan and Abbas Afridi, who are nothing bowlers.

What kind of switch has he flipped here?

2 factors:

1) Lack of intensity from South Africa.
2) Classis South African flat pitch.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Looked terrible to be honest, and if you are not scoring against the likes of Zaman Khan and Abbas Afridi, you are struggling big time.

That was self-appointed consolidator role. Here his role was to keep attacking. Continuing what Abhishek was doing. You know you have SKY coming after you. Not the case in that tournament.

 

[Vikram1989]

This culture of seniors taking a break and waltzing right back into the team without any practice or anything is hurting India.

They treat it like birth right along with their nauseating fans. Remember kl coming in place of Gill before t20 22 wc and playing maidens in semis .we should be ruthless for performance oriented culture.

 

[jnaveen1980]

They treat it like birth right along with their nauseating fans. Remember kl coming in place of Gill before t20 22 wc and playing maidens in semis .we should be ruthless for performance oriented culture.

yes. India won their first ICC tournament right after dropping KL> What an impactful move. This guy comes back. Whitewashed.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

2 factors:

1) Lack of intensity from South Africa.
2) Classis South African flat pitch.

Yes, nothing good in their batting, no credit to them.

 

[sweep_shot]

Yes, nothing good in their batting, no credit to them.

They batted well but those 2 factors shouldn't be overlooked.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Are we in good shape for next world T20? What are the missing resources? India definitely needs an off spinner. Even part timer would do. So Paragh must play. Sundar has to improve his batting a bit.

 

[sweep_shot]

Are we in good shape for next world T20? What are the missing resources? India definitely needs an off spinner. Even part timer would do. So Paragh must play. Sundar has to improve his batting a bit.

Too early to tell.

Next World T20 is scheduled to be in 2026.

 

[JaDed]

Are we in good shape for next world T20? What are the missing resources? India definitely needs an off spinner. Even part timer would do. So Paragh must play. Sundar has to improve his batting a bit.

Finisher, although not most important definitely needed.

 

[charlie007]

Too early to tell.

Next World T20 is scheduled to be in 2026.

Why do you care, though? It’s T20!

 

[sweep_shot]

Why do you care, though? It’s T20!

I don't care about T20. Who said I care about it?

But, I keep in touch with it even though I hate it. It is out of love for cricket.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Finisher, although not most important definitely needed.

We made a mess in a couple of games once the top order was gone before final blast.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Finisher, although not most important definitely needed.

yes.. That final touch is important especially when we bat first. You go back to dug out with the momentum on your side.

 

[kron]

After getting rid of these consolidators indian team has become more watchable

India is too good in t20. And also odi. Too much talent there. They can win anywhere but.....
I am concerned alot about tests. New gen might be losing interest due to ipl money. I am really worried about the future of tests.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India has won 24 out of 26 games this year. Impressive consistency.

 

[jnaveen1980]

India is too good in t20. And also odi. Too much talent there. They can win anywhere but.....
I am concerned alot about tests. New gen might be losing interest due to ipl money. I am really worried about the future of tests.

Time to separate teams as much as possible. 10 years back you didn't have to make a big switch. Nowadays you have to as T20 has gone in the other direction. Especially in Indian conditions where bowlers always get help in Tests, where we use SG ball not kookaburra ball batting like T20 all the time is a disaterous approach.

 

[kron]

Also irrelevant if pandya and jaiswal played odi wc final india beats aus comfortably in odi wc 2023.
Mafia bcci selection bias screwed them over and they deserve it.

This is why sena teams have an advantage. They select on merit. Credit to India for still being so strong despite selection bias /prejudice agaisnt less marketable yet talented players.

Until grandpa rohit and kohli leave India will struggle in tests.

 

[kron]

Time to separate teams as much as possible. 10 years back you didn't have to make a big switch. Nowadays you have to as T20 has gone in the other direction. Especially in Indian conditions where bowlers always get help in Tests, where we use SG ball not kookaburra ball batting like T20 all the time is a disaterous approach.

Yea big blunder by rohit this time vs nz.

But young gen ofccurse there is talent in tests too but given the amount of easy money that can be made in ipl, how can you stop a youngster from pursing t20 and instead focus in test? We will just have to select from the players who couldn't make ipl.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Samson and Tilak smashed records like it's nobody's business.

 

[kron]

I don't care about T20. Who said I care about it?

But, I keep in touch with it even though I hate it. It is out of love for cricket.

T20 and tests are here to stay but odi is finished imo

Zero money to be made there and no one cares anymore.

 

[sweep_shot]

T20 and tests are here to stay but odi is finished imo

Zero money to be made there and no one cares anymore.

ODI is not finished. It is still the best format.

Not everything is about money.

 

[jnaveen1980]

T20 and tests are here to stay but odi is finished imo

Zero money to be made there and no one cares anymore.

India will continue dominating in ODIs as well. Next gen will be more dangerous. They are still no.1 ranked side by a large margin of points.

 

[kron]

ODI is not finished. It is still the best format.

Not everything is about money.

It is. Finished. No money to be made. Players won't care.

Tests has highest prestige. Then it used to be odi wc but now test and t20 is what matters most. Odi is a phinnnished format.

 

[kron]

India will continue dominating in ODIs as well. Next gen will be more dangerous. They are still no.1 ranked side by a large margin of points.

I hope we select test players on merit and end this PR based crap selections for the future.

Otherwise I have some serious concerns about test cricket especially given the amount of money that can be made in easier tourneys like ipl.

We must as you said have a separate pool and select on merit.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

 

[jnaveen1980]

India has 236 sixes this year in T20 of which 232 sixes came against regular test playing nations

Also best average, most sixes, most centuries, most 50s, best strike rate, second best 6s per match after West Indies

This is against regular test nations

Team	Mat	Runs	Ave	SR	100	50	4s	6s ​	6s/match
India	25	4237	31.15	153.18	7	20	375	232	9.3
West Indies	19	3029	24.23	141.21	0	15	230	185	9.7
South Africa	18	2476	20.29	125.55	0	10	200	119	6.6
Pakistan	18	2486	21.43	133.72	0	12	210	116	6.4
Australia	13	2090	26.12	152.33	1	8	189	114	8.8
New Zealand	17	2220	18.34	125.85	1	10	178	98	5.8
Sri Lanka	19	2770	21.98	126.19	0	17	285	86	4.5
Bangladesh	16	2127	18.65	114.35	0	10	175	82	5.1
Afghanistan	15	2000	16.94	117.16	0	11	167	80	5.3
England	11	1700	26.98	141.9	1	6	151	71	6.5
Ireland	10	1400	18.42	120.37	1	5	142	54	5.4
Zimbabwe	13	1705	16.88	113.36	0	5	160	54	4.2

 

[Major]

Impressive numbers by Tilak and Samson and that to in SA

 

[Vikram1989]

I think this will be indian t20 probable list for future

Openers

1)Jaiswal
2)Samson
Gill
Abhishek

MO
3)Sky
4)Nitish
5)Hardik
6)Rinku
7)Parag/Tilak/Raman (Sena)
Spin
8) Washi/Axar
9) Bishnoi/Varun/Kuldeep
10) Bumrah
11)Mayank/Arshdeep

Tilak have to improve his strike rotation. Otherwise he will really struggle on bowling tracks.

Gill will be really challenged to match the strike rate of Samson and abhishek.

 

[Devadwal]

That's why I say that India was lucky in WC 2024

Only team to win the world T20 without losing any match but yea india was lucky

 

[BouncerGuy]

India just smashed Saffrers in their own backyard. That was a brutal hitting spectacle. Brilliant from Samson and tilak.

 

[BouncerGuy]

It was a stick cricket I think because that was too much. That is not cricket, that is like you are playing a game on easy mode.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

That's why I say that India was lucky in WC 2024

Lando is that you??

 

[sweep_shot]

It was a stick cricket I think because that was too much. That is not cricket, that is like you are playing a game on easy mode.

It was a garbage game.

Low-scoring games are much better.

 

[Devadwal]

It was a stick cricket I think because that was too much. That is not cricket, that is like you are playing a game on easy mode.

But when Indian bowlers came to bowl , south African batsman were dancing. SouthAfrica was reduced to 10/4 in 3 over.

No stick cricket from them why? Maybe game mode was change from essy to very very hard

 

[RamLakhan]

If we groomed proper players in right time and if team selection was right we should have at least 2 more T20 WCs, 1 or 2 ODI WC and 1 WTC.

 

[Shaheenthefalcon]

@Nikhil_cric what do you think about your teams performance. Pretty bad not to reach 300?.

 

[Shaheenthefalcon]

South Indian show, I guess.?

 

[Shaheenthefalcon]

It is. Finished. No money to be made. Players won't care.

Tests has highest prestige. Then it used to be odi wc but now test and t20 is what matters most. Odi is a phinnnished format.

You enjoying your dream run, aren't you. It was like book cricket.

 

[Shaheenthefalcon]

Is it fair to say india used rigged ball?