England [386/6] defeat Bangladesh [280] by 106 runs in the 12th match of the 2019 World Cup

[darksher]

Bangladesh is a certified minnow no question about it, winning at home and a once in a blue moon victories overseas doesn’t qualify you as a top team, consistency matters which BD lack.

 

[Mainul]

The fate of this game was decided half way of this match. I can't understand why some people believed that this batting line up shall go for 386 knowing well that they can't even chase 330

 

[Mkumar825]

Bangladesh vs Sri Lanka should be a good game .

Also bd vs Pakistan going to be close .

 

[Hasan123]

Even getting to 300 or so is still a big loss for Bangladesh.

 

[Justcrazy]

: for Shakib

 

[PennOne]

Wow , maybe they should had hit every ball and got out for 200?

Would have been respectful than going for 3rpo in first 10 overs on a flat wicket saving wickets then up to 5.5 and never going above that. Their entire game plan from beginning was NRR not winning

 

[Hasan123]

Also bd vs Pakistan going to be close .

Agree. I don't see Bangladesh qualifying now. Australia will beat them heavily as well. Wouldn't be surprised if they lost to West Indies or Sri Lanka.

 

[Syed1]

If they bring margin of defeat to < 100 then NRR without suffer a massive hit. So for that they need to score roughly 100 runs in 15 overs at 6.7 rpo.

 

[Sycamore]

No, Pakistan lost like cowards to west indies.

Bangladesh have been muscled out of this game but not the World cup. They are ensuring their runrate doesn't take a huge hit.

 

[saeed5646]

: for Shakib

Your online stream is pretty slow

 

[WengerOut]

Mahmudullah doing a Gavaskar!

 

[jnaveen1980]

A bad fielding performance. Dunno why people slate the England attack, it’s pretty good now.

Good bowling sides overcome an odd fielding lapse. It is not just ENgland had a bad day. Pakistan also dropped Root. IT all evened out. England bowling has the worst ER among all countries in the last couple of years.

 

[Green Patriot]

Nasser thanks Bangladesh for changing England’s white ball fortunes by knocking them out of WC 2015. World has to thank BD for this. New England came about because of BD.

Eoin Morgan disagrees.
He was dismissive of this notion,on the contrary downright mocked the journalist who asked this question.

 

[Syed1]

Your online stream is pretty slow &#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;

Bhai post count bhi tou brhana hai

 

[Ronaldo7]

Eoin Morgan disagrees.
He was dismissive of this notion,on the contrary downright mocked the journalist who asked this question.

Nz was the reason.
Nz vs eng 2015 WC match at Wellington

 

[Justcrazy]

Australia chased 364 against India in India after being 10-2 with no Warner and Smith.

Brother , Bilateral and WC games are not same. WC games have extra pressure.

 

[Mainul]

The match would have surely been close had England played against us on the pitch like that in our last match against NZ. On this type of batting paradise the difference between these two teams get huge... Eng batters are Giants on these tracks and our batters are classical, no big hitters, that's why no competitions

 

[jnaveen1980]

Flat pitches only for England, last minute inclusion of Archer (plucked from Windies), spicy pitches for other countries. England desperately wants to win this world cup lol. Still managed to lose a match.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Mahmudullah is playing test

 

[Hasan123]

Brother , Bilateral and WC games are not same. WC games have extra pressure.

You said they cant chase 300 plus scores. You didn't say the type of match.

Australia have the bowling to ensure teams don't get to 300 plus scores anyway.

 

[Duckworth Lewis]

A bad fielding performance. Dunno why people slate the England attack, it’s pretty good now.

Not just the last WC match. Pakistan batted well throughout that series. Not sure whether Pakistan would able to do the same against better attacks.

 

[WengerOut]

Brother , Bilateral and WC games are not same. WC games have extra pressure.

But we were told in some other thread that WC is not a big deal for all apart from Indians

 

[Justcrazy]

This is still early stage , lots of games to be played , after each team has played 5 - 6 games , the real race will start.

 

[Mainul]

Mahmudullah should take the upper hand now. Striking at a pathetic SR. Shakib is feeling tired here surely . Bowled 10 overs, fielded 50 overs. Mahmudullah should hit a few blows now

 

[Mkumar825]

Agree. I don't see Bangladesh qualifying now. Australia will beat them heavily as well. Wouldn't be surprised if they lost to West Indies or Sri Lanka.

Yes ,they don't but if they win against Pak (40% chance ) then your chance also minimum.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Teams that bat and bowl well in the middle overs will more likely to do better in this world cup.

 

[Syed1]

Mahmudullah should take the upper hand now. Striking at a pathetic SR. Shakib is feeling tired here surely . Bowled 10 overs, fielded 50 overs. Mahmudullah should hit a few blows now

He is aiming for 50(65) type of innings

 

[Justcrazy]

You said they cant chase 300 plus scores. You didn't say the type of match.

Australia have the bowling to ensure teams don't get to 300 plus scores anyway.

It all depends upon pitch . 300 plus and 350 plus are different.

 

[Hasan2K8]

No one played a gem. 60runs off 35-40balls. Who is going to hit such? The two that are capable are not in the XI

 

[Mainul]

Rubel won us the last encounter against England in WC. Today he isn't even playing. Pathetic

 

[Justcrazy]

Teams which have quality bowlers will progress further in this WC.

 

[Mainul]

Very Poor running

 

[Syed1]

Their openers played out 2 maidens against Archer giving a signal that they aren't even going to attempt it. That is minnow way of going about it. Atleast try to win.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Last WC Rubel was man of the match v England and was the fastest bowler in that match hit 147 or 148 few times.

 

[saeed5646]

One question

Keeping wickets in hand improve NRR or losing by less runs ?

 

[Hasan123]

No one tried. The rrr is 5.3 unless you are saying on a flat wicket Bangladesh cannot go harder than this

They were trying. They just cant hit bouandires at will. If they just threw their bat like you wanted , Bangladesh would have been dismissed earlier.

 

[Slog]

They’re playing a strategic game

In normal bilateral or a knockout where a result matters and not the manner of it, going for the win and losing by 100+ runs is better. But here where run rate comes into play it’s better to lose by 50 runs but not make any real attempt

 

[Ronaldo7]

One question

Keeping wickets in hand improve NRR or losing by less runs ?

Wickets have no significance. It's only the runs which improve the Nrr.

 

[Hasan2K8]

Mahmudullah this isn’t test match buddy

 

[jnaveen1980]

The ball coming onto the bat will suit England.

They struggle against bounce as we saw in West Indies, where they bounced ENgland out for 113 runs.

 

[adil79]

No, they are playing pretty cleverly. It will come down to net run rate and i think they know that. So, less negative run rate, the better

 

[Gullycricket]

ICC should be dissolved for having such pathetic matches on Saturday

 

[Mainul]

Need 90 in 14 overs for defeat by less than 100 which would be a good achievement and won't hit NRR that much

NRR shall come into play only when we have 5 wins. Pathetic looser bowling like this won't give us more than 3 wins

 

[Hasan123]

Quick stuff from Archer.

 

[Syed1]

One question

Keeping wickets in hand improve NRR or losing by less runs ?

NRR is calculated by:

Your run rate - your opponents run rate. So if you are dismissed in 30th over but your run rate was 6 (180-a.o in 30), what they do is they say you would have scored 180 in 50 so your run rate is 3.6. Then if your opponents win 30 overs then your NRR is 3.6 - 6 = -2.4

 

[trickyone]

Minnows gonna be minnows...

 

[Mainul]

One question

Keeping wickets in hand improve NRR or losing by less runs ?

I think both

 

[Justcrazy]

200 up for BD , about 13 overs left , can they get to 330 here ?

 

[Hasan123]

They struggle against bounce as we saw in West Indies, where they bounced ENgland out for 113 runs.

West Indies batting also has weakness. If there bowlers are in the game , expect the opposition to cause similar problems.

 

[jnaveen1980]

ICC should be dissolved for having such pathetic matches on Saturday

Exactly. No offense to BD or Afghanistan. But who would have Afghanistan match and BD match vs the tournament favorite on a saturday?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Actually now you mention it that's exactly what Morgan said.
He seemed to think the match vs NZ contributed more,if any.

I remember watching that match. They were absolutely annihilated. Nz chased 120 off like 12 overs

 

[shaaik]

Stay on topic guys.. no posts other than match related!

 

[Syed1]

I think both

No only thing that matters is your score at end of 50 overs and your opponents score at end of 50 overs.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Exactly. No offense to BD or Afghanistan. But who would have Afghanistan match and BD match vs the tournament favorite on a saturday?

Tomorrow, it's IND vs AUS, so today's mistake should be forgiven

 

[Hasan2K8]

It turns out to be a bad toss to win. Bowling 2nd is better here.

 

[jnaveen1980]

First best option Hunt it down
Second best option go as close as possible to the total without being reckless
Third best option implode going after the total from the get go.

 

[saeedhk]

Their approach is similar to Pakistan’s.

 

[Chokli]

Tomorrow, it's IND vs AUS, so today's mistake should be forgiven

I was looking at the schedule and there aren't a lot of big games on Saturdays which is a tad disappointing.

I think the only one is New Zealand Vs Australia on the 29th?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Playing out a maiden when you're on 107 is just a grave sin.

 

[Hasan2K8]

This is sh!t batting.

No one got away with a big quick innings!

 

[jnaveen1980]

NZ almost choked against SL y day chasing a meagre total. India had their nervous moments chasing a small total. Even Windies lost 3 before hunting down 105. Chasing will introduce pressure factor something you don't have while batting first.

 

[Mkumar825]

Tomorrow, it's IND vs AUS, so today's mistake should be forgiven

Today match should have - England vs NZ & bd vs afg

 

[Syed1]

Their approach is similar to Pakistan’s.

In what way?

 

[Ronaldo7]

I was looking at the schedule and there aren't a lot of big games on Saturdays which is a tad disappointing.

I think the only one is New Zealand Vs Australia on the 29th?

The relatively big games are on sunday which may be the reason.

 

[Chokli]

The relatively big games are on sunday which may be the reason.

It's kind of lame tbh. Should have big games on Saturday and Sunday.

 

[Ronaldo7]

It's kind of lame tbh. Should have big games on Saturday and Sunday.

True.
Today was just boring.

 

[Hasan123]

4 more.

 

[Technics 1210]

Disagree. Bangladesh are actually doing well considering NRR could come into play in the long run. Better to lose by 80 odd than 150 runs all out!

 

[Mkumar825]

Lol they can still score 330 but 380 out of reach most team .

 

[Gullycricket]

It's kind of lame tbh. Should have big games on Saturday and Sunday.

Yeah we should be playing on Saturday rather than Friday

 

[Hasan123]

It's kind of lame tbh. Should have big games on Saturday and Sunday.

There should have more games at 1 30 pm. UK working time is between 9am-5pm . Games with half 10 start usually are finished at about half 6.

 

[Chokli]

True.
Today was just boring.

It is, even last Saturday was boring

Next Saturday will be boring too

 

[Syed1]

Yeah we should be playing on Saturday rather than Friday

Pak vs Aus is on a wednesday

 

[Chokli]

There should have more games at 1 30 pm. UK working time is between 9am-5pm . Games with half 10 start usually are finished at about half 6.

Yup, only a handful of day night games.

 

[Chokli]

Pak vs Aus is on a wednesday

So is NZ Vs Pak. Pretty lame.

Pak vs Afgh is on a Saturday.

 

[Ronaldo7]

It is, even last Saturday was boring

Next Saturday will be boring too

Won't be boring if the lower ranked teams show some guts while playing.

 

[WengerOut]

This puts performance against SA by all teams into perspective. They are just rubbish

 

[Ronaldo7]

The Bangladeshi GOAT is GONE.

 

[Hasan2K8]

This match has been good. England batted superb, too strong with the bat. Bangladesh in return not done too badly with the bat but the chase is humongous. But the crowd has had a good entertainment no doubt.

50-60runs too many.

 

[Chokli]

Won't be boring if the lower ranked teams show some guts while playing.

Can't handle the pressure.

It could have been worse though if we had the 2011 and 2015 format.