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England [386/6] defeat Bangladesh [280] by 106 runs in the 12th match of the 2019 World Cup

Last 10 overs 90 runs not out of the question these days. Now they have 225. This is why you have to keep the opposition to 320.
 
Initially for the first 30 overs they shouldve been more pro active and tried to win the game

Yes in doing that if they lost 4-5 wickets then the tactic of playing out the overs wouldve been fine to protect their run rate

However it looks like they made no effort from the start of their innings which was disaapointing to see
 
Mahmudullah should bat at 5 and Mosaddek at 6 followed by Saifuddin
 
Since CT loss to Pakistan England has lost only two matches at home. One to Pakistan. One to India.
 
Mahmudullah has been playing test last two odi. Against NZ he batted rubbish and cost them! Had he scored bit more quickly another 15-20 runs would’ve made a huge difference!
 
Must get 300! To give some sort of boost to the batting for the next match.

If I was BD coach I’d told them forget 386. Get 350. We move on to the next match.
 
If you want to limit England to a reasonable score you need these three wickets cheaply.

1) Roy
2) Bairstow
3) Butler
 
It was out of reach for Bangladesh and they knew it even before the innings started.

Total is too high for Bangladesh they don't have the capability to chase it.

Playing for a decent run rate it's the best way forward
 
Hasan2K8 said:
Mahmudullah has been playing test last two odi. Against NZ he batted rubbish and cost them! Had he scored bit more quickly another 15-20 runs would’ve made a huge difference!
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Suddenly he becomes a selfish
 
England's bowling is mediocre. The batting is superlative, but the bowling lacks any x factor or wow factor. Pace - yes, but no standout bowler. India and Australia are better balanced sides.
 
bujhee kom said:
England's bowling is mediocre. The batting is superlative, but the bowling lacks any x factor or wow factor. Pace - yes, but no standout bowler. India and Australia are better balanced sides.
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Imagine them without Archer lol It would have been even worse.
 
BD needs 43 off 36 deliveries with 4 wickets in hand. What an exciting scenario
 
Required rr almost 23, but there are still 6 overs and 4 wickets left. What is Bangla doing?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Imagine them without Archer lol It would have been even worse.
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Archer went for loads v Pakistan. He is new(ish) and it is unfair to burden him as such. England won't win the WC. If ever they score sub 300, they will struggle to defend it.
 
bujhee kom said:
Archer went for loads v Pakistan. He is new(ish) and it is unfair to burden him as such. England won't win the WC. If ever they score sub 300, they will struggle to defend it.
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That is when they lost. Don't expect him to go as much in other games. But without him their bowling will be even weaker.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
That is when they lost. Don't expect him to go as much in other games. But without him their bowling will be even weaker.
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Yes, obviously he won't go for so much in each game. 18 months from now he'll be a beast, but this WC is a tad too early for him.

I am disappointed that the boys didn't even try to chase it.
 
Man this worldcup all the team quality is patchy.

Eng have weak bowling lineup
India have there problems in batting
Aus spinner are weak
Wi are hit and miss
Nz openers are struggling
Sa are in worse form
Pakistan is always inconsistent
Bd are also inconsistent
Sl are not up to mark
Afghanistan are not looking threatening

All in all there is no team like aus of 2015 worldcup which was pretty strong and was quality team
 
saeed5646 said:
Man this worldcup all the team quality is patchy.

Eng have weak bowling lineup
India have there problems in batting
Aus spinner are weak
Wi are hit and miss
Nz openers are struggling
Sa are in worse form
Pakistan is always inconsistent
Bd are also inconsistent
Sl are not up to mark
Afghanistan are not looking threatening

All in all there is no team like aus of 2015 worldcup which was pretty strong and was quality team
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Which is good.
Any of the top 5 teams can win this WC. In 2015 it was only aus or nz. Mostly aus coz they were just too strong.
 
saeed5646 said:
Man this worldcup all the team quality is patchy.

Eng have weak bowling lineup
India have there problems in batting
Aus spinner are weak
Wi are hit and miss
Nz openers are struggling
Sa are in worse form
Pakistan is always inconsistent
Bd are also inconsistent
Sl are not up to mark
Afghanistan are not looking threatening

All in all there is no team like aus of 2015 worldcup which was pretty strong and was quality team
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This is good for cricket. We want the difference to be less between teams. I am really disappointed to see the Afgans. They can't even bat 50 overs!
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Which is good.
Any of the top 5 teams can win this WC. In 2015 it was only aus or nz. Mostly aus coz they were just too strong.
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Australia and India seem the strongest teams for me. England's bowling will cost them dearly. They concede ~300 v anyone.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Which is good.
Any of the top 5 teams can win this WC. In 2015 it was only aus or nz. Mostly aus coz they were just too strong.
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Agree it is pretty exciting but at the same pretty low quality cricket worldcup from long time
 
Athar ali khan takes commentary too seriously and becomes emotional about bangladesh. Did he even play for bangladesh? Anyone else felt that?
 
If Babar Azam was watching today's match after seeing Mahmudullah and Mushfiq ur Rahim he must've thought I'm not alone there are many like me. Selfish innings.
 
A reality check for Bangladesh today with England hammering them so hard that it's not even a match. Back to the bad old days for them against a far more powerful side.
 
So how much bd managed to control NRR with this approach.

Should have all out for 260 in 40 instead
 
England 386/6

Bangladesh 280 (48.5/50 ov, target 387)

England win by 106 runs.
 
Robert said:
Doesn’t matter if they hit 301.
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Didn't work out against Pakistan. England literally depends on flat decks. Any team that can compete in that area (in my view all teams can do as England bowling is one of the worst) can beat England.
 
Have to say this that i have never seen indian batters play like this, they will always try to get the target.I have seen lots of selfish innings from Pak batters in the past and now from Bangladeshis.
 
ali2220 said:
Have to say this that i have never seen indian batters play like this, they will always try to get the target.I have seen lots of selfish innings from Pak batters in the past and now from Bangladeshis.
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You have not seen DHoni i suppose lol He literally got booed in England last time when he decided to dead bat chasing an achievable 322.
 
Archer is stolen from Caribbean, Morgan from Ireland, Rashid and Moeen from sub continent. England is “chora” team, but I still like them.
 
BDfanforever said:
Archer is stolen from Caribbean, Morgan from Ireland, Rashid and Moeen from sub continent. England is “chora” team, but I still like them.
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They havent stolen anyone. Their team is an actual representation of their country; a melting pot of different cultures and races.

Understandably difficult to understand or digest for my fellow one race one culture sub continentals.
 
Mainul said:
Our NRR is now -0.714 ,better than Pakistan,SRL, AFG and SA
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well, as bangladesh batted with the sole intention to save their net run rate from ball 1 which shows the minnow mentality ingrained in their mindset, I would say,"mission accomplished":fizz
 
BDfanforever said:
Archer is stolen from Caribbean, Morgan from Ireland, Rashid and Moeen from sub continent. England is “chora” team, but I still like them.
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Moeen and Rashid are UK born and raised. They are as British as anyone else in that team. Your argument is the one made by right-wing racists etc.
 
BDfanforever said:
Archer is stolen from Caribbean, Morgan from Ireland, Rashid and Moeen from sub continent. England is “chora” team, but I still like them.
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Archer I will give you. He has been fast-tracked through the various applicable systems specifically to qualify him for the World Cup. England are extremely lucky that he chose to pursue his career with them.

Morgan is a bit different, in that Ireland and England (and the rest of Britain) have a legally recognised Common Travel Area. Irish and British citizens often have mixed heritage and hold both passports. Many people born in Ireland will therefore automatically qualify to play for England, and vice versa.

And, you are most considerably wide of the mark on Rashid and Moeen. They were both born and bred in England - Rashid in Yorkshire and Moeen in the West Midlands. Moeen in particular has confessed to being a big England fan since birth. This pair were not “stolen from the subcontinent” just because they are ethnically Asian. England is a multiracial and multicultural country.
 
James said:
Archer I will give you. He has been fast-tracked through the various applicable systems specifically to qualify him for the World Cup. England are extremely lucky that he chose to pursue his career with them.

Morgan is a bit different, in that Ireland and England (and the rest of Britain) have a legally recognised Common Travel Area. Irish and British citizens often have mixed heritage and hold both passports. Many people born in Ireland will therefore automatically qualify to play for England, and vice versa.

And, you are most considerably wide of the mark on Rashid and Moeen. They were both born and bred in England - Rashid in Yorkshire and Moeen in the West Midlands. Moeen in particular has confessed to being a big England fan since birth. This pair were not “stolen from the subcontinent” just because they are ethnically Asian. England is a multiracial and multicultural country.
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Yes, the latter statement he made irritates me. Those born/raised in country X are from that country.
 
bujhee kom said:
Moeen and Rashid are UK born and raised. They are as British as anyone else in that team. Your argument is the one made by right-wing racists etc.
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I get that UK is multi cultural like USA, still I am willing to bet Indian/Pak/BD background would make up at most only 2% of UK ethnicity yet it makes up nearly 20% of their starting xi. Even if they are born in UK trust me desi background would still be more dominant i.e Moeen wife is a Bangladeshi hijabi.

If BD can poach a fast bowler like Rabada it would significantly strengthen our team. If we add someone like Rashid Khan and Lamichane to our spin attack most of SENA would simply get destroyed in BD pitches.
 
Quite a beating, but we were not expected to win this one, so still not lost everything. England on their day are absolutely incomparable on a batting belter. After Shakib’s effort, we should have crossed 300 here.
 
BDfanforever said:
I get that UK is multi cultural like USA, still I am willing to bet Indian/Pak/BD background would make up at most only 2% of UK ethnicity yet it makes up nearly 20% of their starting xi. Even if they are born in UK trust me desi background would still be more dominant i.e Moeen wife is a Bangladeshi hijabi.

If BD can poach a fast bowler like Rabada it would significantly strengthen our team. If we add someone like Rashid Khan and Lamichane to our spin attack most of SENA would simply get destroyed in BD pitches.
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Minorities are 15-20% of the UK population. What does 'background' have to do with anything here? They are Brits playing for England. Their skin tone is immaterial. Jofra is a case of selection from afar - and if Bangladesh can attract such talent, we should!
 
Eoin Morgan counts his lucky stars that he has Jason Roy setting the platform for his England team – and it is the opener’s added maturity that has made all the difference according to the skipper.

Roy smashed his sixth ODI century in the last 18 months to get England back to winning ways in the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup in Cardiff on Saturday. After a player of the series effort in the warm-up ODI series against Pakistan, Roy is in a rich vein of form that contrasts markedly with his efforts two years ago in the ICC Champions Trophy.

Out of form and, by the semi-final, out of the side, Roy has had to earn his way back in at the top of the order alongside Jonny Bairstow. And after hitting 153 to set a total out of Bangladesh’s reach, his skipper paid tribute to Roy’s development on the big stage.

“Probably one of his biggest strengths at the moment is his temperament," said Morgan.

“It might surprise a lot of people, me saying that, but if you look at the guy as he’s matured from a county cricketer into the full-blown international cricketer he is now, the temperament he shows at different stages of his innings and how he goes about picking off his boundaries and the areas in which he scores; I think from the start of his international cricket to right now, I think there’s a considerable difference.

“To be honest, it’s a luxury to have him, because probably particularly you guys more than anybody, and then people in the general, you know, cricket fans talk about scoring hundreds.

“He’s an exception to the rule that just goes on and gets big scores, and it can range from 140 or 180, and the rate he gets it at, just he’s so difficult to defend. He scores all the way around the ground. He takes really good bowlers down, as well. He hits good balls for boundaries. So he’s great to have in the side, particularly when he’s in this form.”

The only blot on England’s copybook appeared to be an injury to Jos Buttler during his majestic half-century that prevented him from taking the field in the second innings.

But Morgan allayed any fears over the wicket-keeper’s hip problem, calling the decision to remove him ‘precautionary’ with England’s next game against the West Indies at the Hampshire Bowl, Southampton, not until Friday.

Morgan meanwhile added that after defeat to Pakistan at Trent Bridge, his side have turned a corner.

“It was probably an improvement on the other day,” he said. “Right throughout the whole game, right from the start, just the platform we started with, obviously it changed. We continued to lose wickets throughout our innings against Pakistan.

“Today that opening stand really did lay a solid platform. I don’t think it was that easy up front. We were trying to score runs, but we didn’t go anywhere.”

Jofra Archer and Mark Wood then bowled with serious pace in Bangladesh’s reply to secure a 106-run victory, much to Morgan’s delight.

“Yeah, it’s unbelievable, and I think probably the slow nature of the pitch made it more difficult to play," he added.

“The way Jofra finished, as well. Obviously we’ve seen him start extremely well, coming back in the middle and towards the end, not under any pressure but obviously we’d like to bowl them out to try to get our rate up for the tournament. We wanted to bowl them out. From about the 44th over, he wanted the ball.”

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Q. After the defeat the other day, how pleased were you with not just the result, but I guess the way you went about it, the aggression with bat and ball?
EOIN MORGAN: Yeah, it was probably an improvement on the other day. Right throughout the whole game, right from the start, just the platform we started with, obviously it changed. We continued to lose wickets throughout our innings against Pakistan.

Today that opening stand really did lay a solid platform. I don't think it was that easy up front. I don't think the ball came on to bat a lot. The first four or five overs proved that; we didn't really go anywhere. We were trying to score runs, but we didn't go anywhere.

I thought Jason and Jonny were outstanding. They assessed conditions well. They waited for the bad ball. Waited for themselves to impose themselves in the innings, and 128 is a considerable standard.

Q. And how was it as a captain to know you've got someone like Jason who more often than not when he gets runs, he goes big with it?
EOIN MORGAN: Yeah, to be honest, it's a luxury, because probably particularly you guys more than anybody, and then people in the general, you know, support of cricketer fans talk about scoring hundreds. He's an exception to the rule that just goes on and gets big scores, and it can range from 140 or 180, and the rate he gets it at, just he's so difficult to defend. He scores all the way around the ground. He takes really good bowlers down, as well. He hits good balls for boundaries. So he's great to have on the side, particularly when he's in this form.

Q. Can you just talk about Jason and the way he sort of matured the last sort of two years to the player he is now and what his strengths are?
EOIN MORGAN: Yeah, I think probably one of his biggest strengths at the moment is his temper. It might surprise a lot of people, me saying that, but if you look at the guy as he's matured from a county cricketer into the full-blown international cricketer he is now, the temperament he shows at different stages of his innings and how he goes about picking off his boundaries and the areas in which he scores; I think from the start of his international cricket to right now, I think there's a considerable difference.

Q. Can you just give us an update on Jos Buttler's fitness and is there any doubt?
EOIN MORGAN: There's no serious concern at the moment. He's obviously going to be monitored over the next 48 hours, but at the moment, it was more precautionary rather than unable to do his job.

Q. Is it his hip?
EOIN MORGAN: It's his hip, yeah.

Q. Jason I think's got five scores in excess of 50 in his last six one-day international knocks. Do you think he could transfer that sort of form to Test cricket?
EOIN MORGAN: I've said this before: I do think he could play Test cricket at some stage. I think he has every attribute to be a Test cricketer. Whether that's now or in a couple of years' time, it's not for me to decide, but he certainly has all the attributes, yeah.

Q. Going forward, Jos Buttler's fitness is crucial to you, isn't it?
EOIN MORGAN: No, I'm quite confident that it's not a serious injury.

Q. Both Archer and Wood touched 95 miles an hour today. How much of a luxury is that?
EOIN MORGAN: Yeah, it's unbelievable, and I think probably the slow nature of the pitch made it more difficult to play. Shorter bowls didn't fly through like a quick-natured pitch, and easier to play or get out of the way of. It sort of follows you when it's slower. So today was ideal.

Q. Just staying with Archer, you said you were hoping for a reaction and he had learned from the second match. Are you quite pleased with the way he learned for the third?
EOIN MORGAN: Yeah, absolutely. Probably the way he finished, as well. Obviously we've seen him start extremely well, coming back in the middle and towards the end, not under any pressure but obviously we'd like to bowl them out to try to get our rate up for the tournament. We wanted to bowl. From about the 44th over, we wanted to bowl.

Q. You obviously went with the one spinner today, and picked Adil over Moeen. Has Moeen's form with the bat made that decision a bit easier for you?
EOIN MORGAN: No. It was out and out with the ball, the decision. Had nothing to do with the bat.

Q. Good news, it seems, on Buttler, but if there is any slight concern over his fitness, would you please him just as a specialist batsman Friday, given you have Jonny on the squad?
EOIN MORGAN: Depends on the risk of him making his injury worse in the field. Like in theory, probably the best place for him to be is with the gloves on. The worry would be if a high catch went up, and him with the gloves would take the responsibility in trying to catch it or get to the catch and make his hip worse.

So in theory, the best place for him to be would be with the gloves on.

Q. Given it's such a long tournament, I guess like today, better be safe than sorry.
EOIN MORGAN: Yeah, and there's five days I think between now and the next game. So we'll use every day as much as we can to try and get him back on the park, and if that's not the case and he is a risk going into the next game, it might not be worth it.

Q. How do you assess Bangladesh's bowling today? What was your plan against Bangladesh's spinners?
EOIN MORGAN: To score runs off them and not lose wickets.

I don't understand the question. Our plans against Bangladesh bowlers?

Q. Yeah. Or how do you assess the Bangladesh bowling?
EOIN MORGAN: I don't. It's not my job. Thank you very much.
 
BDfanforever said:
I get that UK is multi cultural like USA, still I am willing to bet Indian/Pak/BD background would make up at most only 2% of UK ethnicity yet it makes up nearly 20% of their starting xi. Even if they are born in UK trust me desi background would still be more dominant i.e Moeen wife is a Bangladeshi hijabi.

If BD can poach a fast bowler like Rabada it would significantly strengthen our team. If we add someone like Rashid Khan and Lamichane to our spin attack most of SENA would simply get destroyed in BD pitches.
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In the 2011 census 33% of the population were identified as Asian.
 
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