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England (387 & 192) defeat India (387 & 170) by 22 runs to take 2-1 lead in the 5-match Test series

Is it fair for Pant to be allowed to bat? He batted in the first innings, he didn't come out to keep in the second innings and India were allowed a substitute wicket keeper and Pant will now come out to bat in the second innings?

This is abusing the spirit of the game.
 
Savak said:
Is it fair for Pant to be allowed to bat? He batted in the first innings, he didn't come out to keep in the second innings and India were allowed a substitute wicket keeper and Pant will now come out to bat in the second innings?

This is abusing the spirit of the game.
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It is not within the spirit but not breaking rules.
 
This match will decide the direction in which this young team will go. If they win it they will be pumped up to achieve many things soon in future. If they lose it will be a setback to their progress.

Also team winning this match will definitely go onto win this series, it will be too difficult to comeback after that.
 
A sensational late spell from Brydon Carse kept England’s hopes alive on a gripping fourth day of the third Test against India at Lord’s.

Carse, bowling with exceptional rhythm from the Pavilion End, trapped both Karun Nair and India captain Shubman Gill leg before. Then, with the final delivery of the day, Ben Stokes clean bowled nightwatchman Akash Deep, leaving India struggling at 58-4 — still 135 runs short of their target of 193.

It was a dramatic conclusion to a thrilling Sunday, played on a pitch that suddenly came to life with sharp bite and unpredictability. India’s bowlers were outstanding in rolling England over for just 192, with Jasprit Bumrah surprisingly taking only two wickets while Washington Sundar did the major damage with figures of 4-22. England collapsed, losing their last six wickets for just 38 runs.

In a chaotic morning session, Harry Brook was bowled trying to sweep seamer Akash Deep on 23. Joe Root and Ben Stokes tried to steady the innings, digging in for 40 and 33 respectively. Both were eventually bowled by Sundar — part of a remarkable statistic, as 12 English batters were bowled in the innings, a new Test record for England on home soil.

Jofra Archer struck early in India’s chase, bouncing out Yashasvi Jaiswal for a duck. However, Chris Woakes missed a crucial opportunity to dismiss KL Rahul, dropping a return catch when the batter was on just five.

England looked to be slipping out of the contest until Carse sparked a revival, with Stokes adding the finishing touch to the day’s drama. A thrilling finale awaits on Monday morning.

Meanwhile, off-spinner Shoaib Bashir, who injured his finger on day three, remains available to bowl if needed, although he is likely to miss the final two Tests.
 
Savak said:
I thought it was very cowardly of Rahul to expose Akashdeep so early to Stokes for the full over.
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That's the role of night watchman. They are supposed to play as many balls as possible. It would be an issue if it's towards the end of inning. In that case, batsmen are supposed to play most balls.
 
Devadwal said:
It was rubbish ball but he shouldn't played that shot on his first ball but untill nair brainfade India was in good position.

Let's see what will happen in the morning session , England just needs a wicket early on day 5 then it will be easy victory for England.

Rahul - pant partnership is key for india. Nitish, Jadeja and Sundar - They can't play under pressure on day 5 pitch.

:kp
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Sundar can. But Rahul is the most important. Even more important than Pant. If he's there at one end for 20 overs, the rest will feel confident. He looked good today. So let's see.
 
Pant will be key. He has a good 4th innings record. A cameo from him will change the game in a flash.
 
Woakes and England's lack of quality in the spin department will hurt them on this pitch which needed a quality spinner and a wicket to wicket 85-90 mph bowler.
 
gazza619 said:
Was Akashdeep there to protect Rahul or was Rahul there to protect Akashdeep?
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Yes but to expose Akashdeep to a tail up Stokes and Carse 4-5 deliveries in an over? Nothing frustrates a bowler more when he only has 1-2 deliveries left to bowl at a tail ender vs 4-5 deliveries.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Tried in 2021 too, slapped them 2-2 across their faces and then humiliated them at home too.
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2-2 means giving two slaps and taking two as well. Only an Indian can be deluded about to flex its skinny muscles after a 2-2 scoreline.

Here is the funny part - after receiving 2 slaps, it was Kohli’s India that ran away and didn’t want to play the decider because of IPL money, only to come back a year later and get demolished.
 
Indian trolls aside, I would like India to win tomorrow. I think England don’t deserve to win this Test because they have batted really poorly.

Winning this Test would paper over a lot of cracks and protect Stokes’ leadership which should definitely be under the scanner.

This would be a heartbreaking loss for India if they don’t hold their nerve tomorrow. Gill should hang his head in shame for not staying defiant today and giving England an opening here.
 
Another fantastic day of test cricket. England batting folded. Like I had said, India were ahead at the end of the 3rd day, Same thing for day 4. England's mindset has been shaken this series. Their bowling is toothless as well.
 
Mamoon said:
2-2 means giving two slaps and taking two as well. Only an Indian can be deluded about to flex its skinny muscles after a 2-2 scoreline.

Here is the funny part - after receiving 2 slaps, it was Kohli’s India that ran away and didn’t want to play the decider because of IPL money, only to come back a year later and get demolished.
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POTW.

You nailed it. :inti
 
Pant and how quickly the ball goes soft will be the key things.Expecting a loss like 2018 series 1st match where we lost a close match almost in similar conditions and eng batted first.
 
Vikram1989 said:
Pant and how quickly the ball goes soft will be the key things.Expecting a loss like 2018 series 1st match where we lost a close match almost in similar conditions and eng batted first.
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Yea 2018 edgbaston where both team score around same scored in 1st innings and we bundled them 180 odd runs in 2nd innings , target was 194 and we lost the test by 31 runs. Kohli was the top scorer with 51 in second innings and india were 63/4 on day 4 stumps

Exact situation here only hope is someone play the blinder of 70+ odd innings but things are not looking great at the moment .

England is huge favorite to win this test.

:kp
 
Mamoon said:
2-2 means giving two slaps and taking two as well. Only an Indian can be deluded about to flex its skinny muscles after a 2-2 scoreline.

Here is the funny part - after receiving 2 slaps, it was Kohli’s India that ran away and didn’t want to play the decider because of IPL money, only to come back a year later and get demolished.
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Yes they were in proper flow, it was a chance to win 3-1, they lost the momentum...
 
Romali_rotti said:
Looks like Gill is not the guy for pressure
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Tendulkar & Kohli also faced similar criticism... I think with these players expectation is high (and whenever they fail in crunch game/moment, it gets highlighted). That is the drawback of becoming premier batsman (scoring a century & double century in the same game - you are termed as Premier Batsman - that is also a difficult thing to achieve) you will be expected to perform in every innings and hence there is additional pressure on such players in difficult situations (also opposition will work out intense & specific strategy against them, as they know its crucial to get them out!)

Having said that we tend to forget when such players finish their jobs in such situations... For instance if Rahul & Gill stayed yesterday and today if they had completed this chase without much fuss 193/2 or 193/3, people will think "Oh! It was an easy task after all", "England set a very small total to chase", "If it was like 270 or 300 to chase, then definitely Gill would have choked"! And definitely his job would not have got noticed (if he ended like 76*) as it is expected with such players to do the easier jobs! Now that he has failed, it will get properly highlighted and if someone else wins it for India he becomes the new hero, he becomes the savior/pressure batsman! OR if England win they will be praised! Suddenly the value of winning the previous match (in which Gill excelled) becomes insignificant!

You know Kohli is still criticized for his innings in last W-T20 Finals, terming it as slow... Even though somehow it ended up being match-winning knock! Instead if had got out in single digit, he would have again got termed as choker! But even after scoring those runs, he escaped choker tage (for that game) but still got called as selfish/stat-padder/inefficient (what not...!) That's the fate of elite-players, they will have to live with it... I am not saying Gill is same, but he is on the way to become that elite player and he will have to face the same pressure & criticism!

This is the psychology behind (players & fans/critics alike!)
 
Rahul holds the key, if he bats through then it will be easy win for India... At the same time if we lose Pant early then it can lift up England and they may run through... So this partnership holds the key (at least 70 runs partnership needed between these two). I think with fresh day conditions (and ball already bit/slightly old), India should carefully handle this situation as England also don't have full resources to exploit (no notable spinner & even their pacers may not be able to reach the level of Bumrah/Siraj). Indian batsmen should understand all these differences and should handle the pressure smartly...
 
India should send Sundar higher than Reddy in my opinion. Sundar can frustrate England batter.
 
Mamoon said:
2-2 means giving two slaps and taking two as well. Only an Indian can be deluded about to flex its skinny muscles after a 2-2 scoreline.

Here is the funny part - after receiving 2 slaps, it was Kohli’s India that ran away and didn’t want to play the decider because of IPL money, only to come back a year later and get demolished.
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Nah, playing a draw series away is obviously a failure for the host and success for the guests, looks like you have been watching a lot of leagues and your mind isn’t actually capable of analysing test cricket.

Btw before running to ipl we were actually leading 2-1.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Nah, playing a draw series away is obviously a failure for the host and success for the guests, looks like you have been watching a lot of leagues and your mind isn’t actually capable of analysing test cricket.

Btw before running to ipl we were actually leading 2-1.
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A drawn Test series where the away team ran away before the completion of the series to play in a T20 league is not something to flex or to be proud of.

Before questioning my analysis of Test cricket, maybe you should use your small brain to question BCCI’s decision to prioritize the IPL over a Test series win in England.

India would have most probably won the 5th Test if they didn’t prioritize the IPL, and they fully deserved the hammering they received when they returned a year later.
 
Mamoon said:
A drawn Test series where the away team ran away before the completion of the series to play in a T20 league is not something to flex or to be proud of.

Before questioning my analysis of Test cricket, maybe you should use your small brain to question BCCI’s decision to prioritize the IPL over a Test series win in England.

India would have most probably won the 5th Test if they didn’t prioritize the IPL, and they fully deserved the hammering they received when they returned a year later.
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The irony is, these same fans value a Test series win in Australia more than an ODI World Cup, yet they were perfectly fine with the Indian team prioritizing the IPL over a Test series win in England. Some of them are such blatant hypocrites. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The irony is, these same fans value a Test series win in Australia more than an ODI World Cup, yet they were perfectly fine with the Indian team prioritizing the IPL over a Test series win in England. Some of them are such blatant hypocrites. :inti
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Apprantly I'm being called a troll by these guys.

Irony has now officially died a 1000 deaths. Like yes bro I am a troll. Not the guy spamming kp emojis and being proud of his railway job or nishi boy being proud of the fact that he is a monkey.

Jee jee bilkul what insightful posts. They are truly a blessing and I am a curse.

In order to be a non troll I should start spamming KP emojis and embrace a Monkey cult heritage. Only then will I be accepted into the order.
 
Ab Fan said:
India should send Sundar higher than Reddy in my opinion. Sundar can frustrate England batter.
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In fact it will be better if he is sent along with Rahul today straight away and surprise England (instead of Pant). Pant can be in explosive mode and if he gets out quickly England will be on top (5 wickets down on Scoreboard will put pressure on India). It will be good if 10 or 20 overs are eaten (even if only 30 to 40 runs are put), we should frustrate England... Also Sundar will not miss easy scoring opportunities, he also improvises sometimes... If 5th wicket partnership is stretched to 100+ (on scoreboard), then England will be on backfoot...
 
mominsaigol said:
Apprantly I'm being called a troll by these guys.

Irony has now officially died a 1000 deaths. Like yes bro I am a troll. Not the guy spamming kp emojis and being proud of his railway job or nishi boy being proud of the fact that he is a monkey.

Jee jee bilkul what insightful posts. They are truly a blessing and I am a curse.

In order to be a non troll I should start spamming KP emojis and embrace a Monkey cult heritage. Only then will I be accepted into the order.
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Nish_Fish acts like he is some established user. But, truth is, almost nobody knows him. LOL. He has less than 8000 posts.

He is apparently in his 40's. A 40+ man who behaves like a teenager. Creepy stuff. :inti

Anyway, I hope England will get the job done on Day 5.
 
RamLakhan said:
This match will decide the direction in which this young team will go. If they win it they will be pumped up to achieve many things soon in future. If they lose it will be a setback to their progress.

Also team winning this match will definitely go onto win this series, it will be too difficult to comeback after that.
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Winning 1 match does not decide the future.
 
sweep_shot said:
Nish_Fish acts like he is some established user. But, truth is, almost nobody knows him. LOL. He has less than 8000 posts.

He is apparently in his 40's. A 40+ man who behaves like a teenager. Creepy stuff. :inti

Anyway, I hope England will get the job done on Day 5.
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India is 58-4, assuming pitch continues to deteriorate, end probs will win.
 
pakistani pride said:
Winning 1 match does not decide the future.
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Talking about confidence of New Young team and Captain... It will be demoralizing for a young team to lose come back after losing from winning position... Experienced teams can usually come out of the letdowns quickly... I am not telling they will immediately become a strong and unbeatable side, but they will gain a lot of confidence (in this initial stage) if they win from this position...
 
Savak said:
Is it fair for Pant to be allowed to bat? He batted in the first innings, he didn't come out to keep in the second innings and India were allowed a substitute wicket keeper and Pant will now come out to bat in the second innings?

This is abusing the spirit of the game.
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Absolutely yes
Why should he not??

There is no spirit of the game
Umpires calls always goes in favour of sena teams. Asian teams don’t complain.

That’s in the spirit of the game? No

So yea as long as it’s in the rule book they can do it
 
Mamoon said:
2-2 means giving two slaps and taking two as well. Only an Indian can be deluded about to flex its skinny muscles after a 2-2 scoreline.

Here is the funny part - after receiving 2 slaps, it was Kohli’s India that ran away and didn’t want to play the decider because of IPL money, only to come back a year later and get demolished.
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It was rohits India actually
Not kohli

And yea ipl has corrupted players
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The irony is, these same fans value a Test series win in Australia more than an ODI World Cup, yet they were perfectly fine with the Indian team prioritizing the IPL over a Test series win in England. Some of them are such blatant hypocrites. :inti
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Absolutely not
I was so angry when we left England

Test is the ultimate format

I don’t give a crap about t20 apart from t20 wc

But I would still take away series win in sena over t20 WC anyday
 
RamLakhan said:
Talking about confidence of New Young team and Captain... It will be demoralizing for a young team to lose come back after losing from winning position... Experienced teams can usually come out of the letdowns quickly... I am not telling they will immediately become a strong and unbeatable side, but they will gain a lot of confidence (in this initial stage) if they win from this position...
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Confidence should already be in order given the fact ENG is having a real hard time. Momentum is overrated, its about how good a team is and how hard individuals are willing to work.
 
pakistani pride said:
Confidence should already be in order given the fact ENG is having a real hard time. Momentum is overrated, its about how good a team is and how hard individuals are willing to work.
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Losing the test from dominating position ( both 1st and 3rd test) can dent the confidence . Yes , They performed better than expectation of Indian cricket fan .
:kp
 
One thing is for sure. In the absence of Pant, Jurel is not the answer for performing WKing duties. We've conceded 36 byes in this test. Only twice have we conceded more than these many in test cricket.

In case we lose by a small margin in this test, questions will be asked about Jurel's performance behind stumps.
 
@MP2011 Is Pan't carrying an injury? If not, he can take the game away from the Poms.
 
128 runs away from 2-1 lead in this series.

Go for it, guys. However, England are outright favorites to win this test
 
Lol Archer gets rid of both jaiswal and Pant, 2 supposed tom boys of indian cricket.

He hasnt played test in 4 years yet already having a bigger impact then Bumrah
 
i have noticed whenever India is fav to win or in dominating position , Indian Posters on PP deliberately start making opposition fav to win
 
Pant was the key but the tail can still wag. The next few are all technically all rounders.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
i have noticed whenever India is fav to win or in dominating position , Indian Posters on PP deliberately start making opposition fav to win
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This was a recurring topic on cricketweb. They even gave it a name - Gambhiring. Intentionally playing down own team's chances.
 
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