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England (465 & 373/5) cruise to a comfortable 5-wicket win over India (471 & 364) in the opening Test of the series

India will need 350+ to feel safe.

Anything less and England is more than capable of blasting their way to the total.
 
And this is why highest scoring doesnt reflect the true picture.

Head was the highest scorer but onpy his 2nd test innings is memorable. 3rd test was mostly done when smith had more or less managed everything. Pitch was super easy to bat on as well at the time for Head.

Similarly the 1st test aus batted poorly. Jaiswal scoring a super ton means nothing when kohli managed to do it amd kohli at this point was so embrassing that he and rohit ran away from tests in an embrassing fashion.

Because even kohli knew that by the time he'd get 700+ runs in test to get 10K, his avg would have fallen even below 40 since hes been avg 27 for eons now.
Yes. Hence pant outbatted smith in 21 even when he scored some runs less. Brook can do that in india and ausand he ll be the best in bussiness and ahead of pant but till then i ll hold my statements
 
People told us that stokes isnt a good enough allrounder and maxwell is better than him and webster is better than him. Man these people. Stokes is easily the best test all rounder of this new generation.
 
92/2 atm , before start of play commies were saying sides want to bowl 1st here because pitch hardly changes on day 5 & chasing is not tough !
At that time they were calculating previous 6 test matches where day 1 was a bit tough and it improved later due to sun.In this match it went in opposite way.today and tomorrow are much cooler than yesterday. So it should be assisting to swing .moreover up and down behaviour is appearing after long time as per them( Atherton and nas) which wasn't seen recently.
 
I back Eng to chase a decent target. Just need to play Bumrah well.
I think Bumrah's early burst will decide how easy or tough to chase.now jadeja can bowl all the time in to rough outside to stop the flow.whether bazball have patience is a different question.
 
This is my Indian XI for 2nd test -

Jaiswal
Rahul
Karun
Gill
Pant
Rana
Kuldeep
Sai should be persisted.he has got good technique, a left hander playing with soft hands and looking to score all the time.very good combo for us at 3.Karun second innings will be deciding factor for jurel inclusion. Rest changes are mandatory.
 
India will probably have to use the heavy roller this morning to flatten that pitch further . Sunshine is expected for the first half of the day so that should help as well.
 
India will probably have to use the heavy roller this morning to flatten that pitch further . Sunshine is expected for the first half of the day so that should help as well.
Bro, I have a few hypothetical questions I'd like to ask you. Feel free to answer honestly

A) How would I function as an umpire?

B) How would I function as a pitch curator

C) How would I function as an official (Determine who is chucking and needs to be banned, determine which venue gets hosting rights for tournaments)

Assume i have full power. I am running a survey for myself 🙃
 
There is no way one can generate good pace from such a short run unless one throws the ball.Where is the pace coming from.Bowlers with class action like Holding and Lillie generated pace from good run up and smooth action.
The pace comes from the hypertextension which works as a catapult. They have done a million analysis including one in this match, which included English commentators, and also on cricinfo.

So this question has been thoroughly answered.
 
So now from batting prowess you have moved to fielding? Next you will be judging his talent based on number of ads he gets.
I do not rate jaiswal, what part of that do you not understand?

Why do you all feel the need to attack me when I beef is only with 4 irritating baboons which has lasted for 2+ years now?

Me not rating jaiswal has nothing to do with hate. I like him bit I disagree on the future atg or talent nonsense.

I think Gill is more talented and this is something bcci thinks so as well hence with the whole Prince Prince Prince ads and mantra.

I rate Brooks higher as well. For me jaiswal is in the mould of racin atm.

Lastly im not the one who brought head into it. I EVEN stated jaiswal will have a better career obviously he will.

@jeeteshssaxena and @Vikram1989 both saw that comment yet continue to ignore it and bring up head to troll which is why I bite back.

It is not my fault that their are 4 chawals on this forumn that keep consistently attacking me for my opinions.

It is an open forumn, I do not rate jaiswal bit I rate the likes of bumrah, Gill and have started to rate Pant and even admit I was wrong about Pant.

You may argue with me and discuss properly, I do not mind, but if you wish to associate yourself with 4 baboons and wish to become the 5th one, go ahead.

Arguments will be matched with arguments but ad hominems and insults will be matched with insults.

From what ive seen I disagree with jaiswal being a future atg. I do believe he will be a solid batsmen and is a solid batsmen.

I have said this a dime and dozen times. Even in my thread I called him a hype machine but clearly stated verbatim that he is a solid batsmen.

Why do you all keep ignoring this statement? What is it to you if I dont rate him currently as some messiah level greatest left hander of all time atg like you or Mamoon are placing him to be?

On one hand you guys claim he's the greatest left hander of all time. When he fails you say imagine hating a 23 year old 🤣🤣🤣.
 
There is no way one can generate good pace from such a short run unless one throws the ball.Where is the pace coming from.Bowlers with class action like Holding and Lillie generated pace from good run up and smooth action.

Akhtar was generating pace without a good run up after 2007 ish. Just relying on strength/contraction and his hyperextension for his pace.

Tait was similar.

So you are absolutely wrong when you say you can't generate pace without a good run up.
 
Bro, I have a few hypothetical questions I'd like to ask you. Feel free to answer honestly

A) How would I function as an umpire?

B) How would I function as a pitch curator

C) How would I function as an official (Determine who is chucking and needs to be banned, determine which venue gets hosting rights for tournaments)

Assume i have full power. I am running a survey for myself 🙃

A) A+

B) Z-

C) A +
 
A) A+

B) Z-

C) A +
I'll tell you how I would function.

A) be a fair and just umpire but when it comes to Australia, I'd give all decisions on favour of AU and would even rig hawkeye to ensure incorrect results. No point in giving Pakistan this sentiment cause they suck atm.

B) Make a flat pitch for Aus and for oppositions during half time I'd instantly bake the pitch and doctor it.

C) Move wtc and all world cups to Australia forever 🫠
 
Bro, I have a few hypothetical questions I'd like to ask you. Feel free to answer honestly

A) How would I function as an umpire?

B) How would I function as a pitch curator

C) How would I function as an official (Determine who is chucking and needs to be banned, determine which venue gets hosting rights for tournaments)

Assume i have full power. I am running a survey for myself 🙃
lol I think he would become our Bucknor if he umpired, though with DRS the impact could be minimized.
 
lol I think he would become our Bucknor if he umpired, though with DRS the impact could be minimized.
Only for Aus matches. Otherwise I dont care about India matches vs other teams. If you have been following my posts, I dont target teams I target individuals.

Personally I have issues with Babar, Rizwan, Abdullah, Bavuma, Jadeja, Ashwin, Laxman, Jaiswal, Pant( Although am willing to uphold judgement on those 2 for now), Brooks (In odi and t20 only), Usman Khawaja, Mitchell Marsh(Test), Kohli and Rohit(Test), KL Rahul (All time but I dont talk about him much cause everyone hates him so no point)

And many others.

Juat cant stand these players.
 
Only for Aus matches. Otherwise I dont care about India matches vs other teams. If you have been following my posts, I dont target teams I target individuals.

Personally I have issues with Babar, Rizwan, Abdullah, Bavuma, Jadeja, Ashwin, Laxman, Jaiswal, Pant( Although am willing to uphold judgement on those 2 for now), Brooks (In odi and t20 only), Usman Khawaja, Mitchell Marsh(Test), Kohli and Rohit(Test), KL Rahul (All time but I dont talk about him much cause everyone hates him so no point)

And many others.

Juat cant stand these players.
Rahul has been our biggest loss, though he seems to be having a last gasp in the sunset of his career.

I had so much hope after seeing his first few tests but then he got more interested in the IPL and his image. Some of the shots he's capable of playing are insane. It's really one of the saddest losses for Indian cricket.
 
Rahul has been our biggest loss, though he seems to be having a last gasp in the sunset of his career.

I had so much hope after seeing his first few tests but then he got more interested in the IPL and his image. Some of the shots he's capable of playing are insane. It's really one of the saddest losses for Indian cricket.
Idk, I remember commenting in 2022 about Rahul and hating him during t20 world cup.

At the time everyone told me I was wrong and that he was performing but I highlighted that he only bashed minnows and then as usual the whole Pakistan, Bangladesh stuff came in.

Anyway I always saw him as a timid batsmen. Talented for sure but dude has concentration issues and out of nowhere he will get this ephifony that the weight of the world is on his shoulders and he just goes into a shell.

During the wc final, I saw his interview, where he once again had main character syndrome and acted like his wicket was the most important thing in the world not realising that indian fans were begging him to get out sooner rather then later.

He completly killed the innings but his hero mentality makes it seem like he's some Bollywood failure.
 
Idk, I remember commenting in 2022 about Rahul and hating him during t20 world cup.

At the time everyone told me I was wrong and that he was performing but I highlighted that he only bashed minnows and then as usual the whole Pakistan, Bangladesh stuff came in.

Anyway I always saw him as a timid batsmen. Talented for sure but dude has concentration issues and out of nowhere he will get this ephifony that the weight of the world is on his shoulders and he just goes into a shell.

During the wc final, I saw his interview, where he once again had main character syndrome and acted like his wicket was the most important thing in the world not realising that indian fans were begging him to get out sooner rather then later.

He completly killed the innings but his hero mentality makes it seem like he's some Bollywood failure.
If anyone was praising him in 2022, they were probably mixing up his IPL fame with international cricket.

He made his debut in Australia during the 2014 series. In his first match, he came down the order and was out trying to smash the bowling without even settling in. I remember him almost being caught on the legside going for a big shot. Kohli who was non-striker gestured something like, 'dude just smash them if that's what you want to do.' He tried again and got caught lol.

Next test, Dhoni retired and Kohli became captain. Rahul was made opener and he got a good hundred. I remember being filled with so much hope as it was a patient innings. Being from my city, I also knew about the smash-game he had, so seemed like we had the next big thing who could play long, yet impactful innings. Sadly, wasn't to be.
 
Assuming it doesnt rain, I back england to win. Assuming it does rain then washout.

I blame jaiswal for taking an eternity to get to his 100 on such a pitch where it was flat as a pancake
 
Bro is bumrah at same level as wasim akram or imran khan or is he not there yet?
I view Bumrah as = Wasim and Imran and > Waqar Younis.

I would love to explain why in great detail but ik of 4 indian baboons that are just waiting to pounce on me, with some of them starting to fabricate lies.
 
I view Bumrah as = Wasim and Imran and > Waqar Younis.

I would love to explain why in great detail but ik of 4 indian baboons that are just waiting to pounce on me, with some of them starting to fabricate lies.
Ya so true indians here just wants us to praise their players all the time this is pakistani forum afterall you want people to sing your players go to indian forum then this page is all about passionate cricket fans of pakistan who are nice with everyone who love cricket for bumrah to come at akram level needs to produce what akram did in 1992 world cup akram won it there bumrah had chance vs australia but couldn't do it in final.
 
Ya so true indians here just wants us to praise their players all the time this is pakistani forum afterall you want people to sing your players go to indian forum then this page is all about passionate cricket fans of pakistan who are nice with everyone who love cricket for bumrah to come at akram level needs to produce what akram did in 1992 world cup akram won it there bumrah had chance vs australia but couldn't do it in final.
Wasim > Bumrah in odi while Bumrah > Wasim in tests imo and this is accounting the difference between 1 ball and 2 new ball but wasim is still massively superior.

In the 2 new ball era the first 10 overs are easeisr for pacers while overs 11 to 50 are easier for batters. Wasim was clearly superior yo bumrah in odi with the new ball.

But bumrah is > Wasim in tests.
 
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Let's see what all the hype about Pant is, now that he's walked in, already jaiswal has dissapointed us
 
Let's see what all the hype about Pant is, now that he's walked in, already jaiswal has dissapointed us
Everyone can't perform in every match/innings... Root also failed in this match so far (in his home ground). Otherwise this will become like book cricket (even that is based more on luck though!)
 
Everyone can't perform in every match/innings... Root also failed in this match so far (in his home ground). Otherwise this will become like book cricket (even that is based more on luck though!)
Fair enough. So far Pant has been doing great. Fabulous Test keeper. Just disagree with him being > Sanga and Gilly
 
Fair enough. So far Pant has been doing great. Fabulous Test keeper. Just disagree with him being > Sanga and Gilly
Yes even I agree with it... What is lacking with Pant is "more samples", I mean longevity... We should wait almost till the end of his career to decide whether he is on the level (or above/below) Gilchrist or others... What we are seeing is bright potential (that too in this T20 era, a player doing so well in Test Cricket!) this is what is making people (his fans) excited! Both extremes are wrong imo (Fans praising him already to sky-high AND haters putting him down, calling him as hack!)

Similar thing happened with Dhoni... When he was in the middle of his career (probably prior to 2011 triumph) people were comparing him with Gilchrist (in ODIs mainly) which resulted in mixed opinion. But after 2011 and Dhoni continuing with many such match-winning performances and doing the finishing role so successfully, he easily surpassed Gilchrist in terms of match-winning abilities... (which made everyone to agree)

Similary Pant is doing the same in Tests! If Gilchrist is the yardstick to measure this, then it shows the quality of Gilchrist! So time will tell in future... (Both the extremists will be wrong till then!) But potential-wise he is right up there, but I also do agree that sometimes he gives up easily!

If Pant continues to come up with many impactfull innings and maintains some consistency, then definitely his heroics in Gabba will tilt benefits towards him compared to Gilchrist (because Gilchrist hasn't done anything close to Pant... i.e., Pant winning in Australia vs. Gilchrist winning in India - IN TESTS! The toughest thing to do - away win - in the toughest format!)
 
Yes even I agree with it... What is lacking with Pant is "more samples", I mean longevity... We should wait almost till the end of his career to decide whether he is on the level (or above/below) Gilchrist or others... What we are seeing is bright potential (that too in this T20 era, a player doing so well in Test Cricket!) this is what is making people (his fans) excited! Both extremes are wrong imo (Fans praising him already to sky-high AND haters putting him down, calling him as hack!)

Similar thing happened with Dhoni... When he was in the middle of his career (probably prior to 2011 triumph) people were comparing him with Gilchrist (in ODIs mainly) which resulted in mixed opinion. But after 2011 and Dhoni continuing with many such match-winning performances and doing the finishing role so successfully, he easily surpassed Gilchrist in terms of match-winning abilities... (which made everyone to agree)

Similary Pant is doing the same in Tests! If Gilchrist is the yardstick to measure this, then it shows the quality of Gilchrist! So time will tell in future... (Both the extremists will be wrong till then!) But potential-wise he is right up there, but I also do agree that sometimes he gives up easily!

If Pant continues to come up with many impactfull innings and maintains some consistency, then definitely his heroics in Gabba will tilt benefits towards him compared to Gilchrist (because Gilchrist hasn't done anything close to Pant... i.e., Pant winning in Australia vs. Gilchrist winning in India - IN TESTS! The toughest thing to do - away win - in the toughest format!)
Dhoni and Gilly are different odi players so its not a fair comparison.

Gilly is an opener while Dhoni is a lower order batter. A lower order batters job is to finish and yes while Dhoni is the greatest finisher of all time,

Gilly for his era wasnt a finisher. Gilly did his job as he was very aggressive as an opener especially for his era. But expecting gilly to provide solid finish as an opener is unfair

Dhoni never did that even during his brief stint at no 3 early on in his career.
 
You can always guarantee someone's an idiot when they share still pictures as proof of chucking.
The picture is very convincing.The minimum ICC can do is to have Bumrah tested.There is nothing to get upset about.If the bend is within limits then he will be cleared and people will not raise the issue again.
 
The picture is very convincing.The minimum ICC can do is to have Bumrah tested.There is nothing to get upset about.If the bend is within limits then he will be cleared and people will not raise the issue again.
Although I love bumrah. I do think he should be tested to clear any doubts. He will likely come as clean anyway
 
India might win this test. They are batting well. Difference between these sides is Bumrah. But india are at a disadvantage as they are playing 2 tests without Bumrah
 
Harry Brook has been dropped 13 times, out of 26 chances off legal deliveries, in Tests in the last twelve months - no batter has been let off more in this period
 
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Harry Brook has been dropped 13 times, out of 26 chances off legal deliveries, in Tests in the last twelve months - no batter has been let off more in this period (Cricinfo)
He plays pace extremely well. Most of his catches weren't really chances, they flew into tue hands way too quickly. No human could have logically caught it.
 
Harry Brook has been dropped 13 times, out of 26 chances off legal deliveries, in Tests in the last twelve months - no batter has been let off more in this period (Cricinfo)
He is damn lucky , one his luck is over like Tulla head then we will see the reality. He is pathetic against Spinners and No he is Not tulla but a good player Overhyped by delusional fan's. :kp
 
He is damn lucky , one his luck is over like Tulla head then we will see the reality. He is pathetic against Spinners and No he is Not tulla but a good player Overhyped by delusional fan's. :kp
Redwood and I have more POTW's. How many do you have? Now you tell me whos the delusional poster 🫠.

Brooks will retire as a legend. Perfect successor to KP in tests, if not even better. He and Travis Head are relative to one another with both of them >>>>>>>>>> Jaiswal, Pant and Gill.
 
Redwood and I have more POTW's. How many do you have? Now you tell me whos the delusional poster 🫠.

Brooks will retire as a legend. Perfect successor to KP in tests, if not even better. He and Travis Head are relative to one another with both of them >>>>>>>>>> Jaiswal, Pant and Gill.
@Devadwal No need to laugh, One avg close to 60 in test cricket with more overseas centuries then 90% of test cricketers in history despite being on his 26th test game.

The other is the only player to score 2 centuries in a final, something no indian has ever achieved not even Kohli.

Counter this and then we will talk. Kindly don't troll like you usually do. It is your trolling that prevents potw's 🫠
 
India is likely to score around 240 :kp
Brooks is going to be Papa Head's successor unfortunately he won't be able to score 2 centuries in a final.

We live in the Travis Brooks era spearheaded by Me. I am here to make sure misinformation doesnt spread.

Jaiswal isnt even 2% the batsmen Travis + Brooks are.
 
Brooks is going to be Papa Head's successor unfortunately he won't be able to score 2 centuries in a final.

We live in the Travis Brooks era spearheaded by Me. I am here to make sure misinformation doesnt spread.

Jaiswal isnt even 2% the batsmen Travis + Brooks are.
Sir I can't see the ball :kp
 
Got to set England a minimum of 350. Even that may not be enough with the kind of batting lineup they have.
 
This game likely to go down the wire. Stokes would also go for win if they have to chase 4 runs per over on final day.
 
This is the 2nd highest number of overs Stokes has bowled in his last 31 Tests.

Let's see if he can keep it up for the rest of the series without breaking down . Will be crucial to England's chances to dominate the series.
 
Sam Konstas saw the ball when he lapped multiple sixes on Bumrah.

So called greatest bowler of all time getting humbled by a 19 year old prodigy. We both know jaiswal would be a deer in headlights vs Bumrah
Jaiswal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kostas.

Jaiswal already scored a century in his debut test in westindies.

:kp
 
This is the 2nd highest number of overs Stokes has bowled in his last 31 Tests.

Let's see if he can keep it up for the rest of the series without breaking down . Will be crucial to England's chances to dominate the series.
Do you think England will give more supporting pitch of this test draw ? I want more spicy pitch. :kp
 
Dhoni and Gilly are different odi players so its not a fair comparison.

Gilly is an opener while Dhoni is a lower order batter. A lower order batters job is to finish and yes while Dhoni is the greatest finisher of all time,

Gilly for his era wasnt a finisher. Gilly did his job as he was very aggressive as an opener especially for his era. But expecting gilly to provide solid finish as an opener is unfair

Dhoni never did that even during his brief stint at no 3 early on in his career.
Was talking about overall impact! Whether somebody is a finisher or opener... It is the overall match-winning ability, Dhoni achieved more than Gilchrist in that (add to that Captaincy and winning multiple trophies...)
 
Jaiswal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kostas.

Jaiswal already scored a century in his debut test in westindies.

:kp
Konstas has not even made his wi debut yet. Just wait and watch.

Repeat after me

Head, Konstas and Brooks will lead the new year
 
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